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    Speed harley davidson v-rod rod

    In the various threads about the closing of Buell several people commented on why not build a bike based on the V-Rod engine. Eric Buell has long been reported as discounting that idea because of the engines size and weight. Spanish website SoloMoto30.com has an article on this SPEED HARLEY DAVIDSON V-ROD ROD by French designer JEAN FRANCOIS VINCENT. The bike is very traditional in its styling compared to BuellÔÇÖs cutting edge design emphasis yet it does seem to make the argument that you could make a good looking ride with the V-Rod engine. However; the article has no data panel or ride assessment to tell us if the looks can be matched with street riding performance.

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    Roehr does. http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/ Made in the good ole USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddingGeezer View Post
    Roehr does. http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/ Made in the good ole USA.

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    I am well aware of Roehr and have followed them with great interest since they first announced their plans. I would love to ride one, heck even see one.


    They are a very small volume expensive niche builder. Since their begining I have wondered if they would run into engine supply problems as Buell did when he was an independent builder. The Revolution engine may not pose the same problems for them that the Sportster based Buells did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddingGeezer View Post
    Roehr does. http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/ Made in the good ole USA.

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    It would be nice to see how much $ they actually are since they want you to send in a $2k non refundable deposit just to get in line....

    Sweet looking bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squatch View Post
    It would be nice to see how much $ they actually are since they want you to send in a $2k non refundable deposit just to get in line....

    Sweet looking bike!
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    The fellow up here who sold BMWs for nearly 50 years owns and rides a V-Rod to some of our gatherings. I think it has some interesting design features that BMW would be wise to consider. For instance compare how easy it is to open the faux gas tank on a V-Rod (one easly operated fixture and it hinges open) to doing the same task on yhe faux tank of a BMW 650 thumper (multiple screws and bits of plastic. Also I like that the kick stand locks in position when down, but is still easily retracted when you are ready to roll. And then there is the keyless start feature. I agree there is some untapped potential in the V-Rod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika View Post
    The bike is very traditional in its styling compared to BuellÔÇÖs cutting edge design emphasis yet it does seem to make the argument that you could make a good looking ride with the V-Rod engine.

    Nice photo. I'd like to see a sport touring concept using that motor.
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    On a related but unrelated note - re engine supplies.....

    You watch episode after episode of American Chopper (yeah, I know but i've been watching for years, it IS afterall about motorcycles ) and they seem to have a constant stream of v-twin engines available. I know they use HD engines from time to time but I wonder if they are being impacted too?

    Regarding the show itself (not to hijack the thread), TLC/DSC HAS to be concerned that it might lose the AC franchise like it has now lost the J&K+8 show. Those shows cost almost NOTHING to make and rake in gazillions of bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xp8103 View Post
    You watch episode after episode of American Chopper (yeah, I know but i've been watching for years, it IS afterall about motorcycles ) and they seem to have a constant stream of v-twin engines available. I know they use HD engines from time to time but I wonder if they are being impacted too?

    Regarding the show itself (not to hijack the thread), TLC/DSC HAS to be concerned that it might lose the AC franchise like it has now lost the J&K+8 show. Those shows cost almost NOTHING to make and rake in gazillions of bucks.
    Most of the custom chopper builders do not use Harley brand engines, but v twin engines from other manufactures such as S&S and others. Harley has sued S&S and maybe others for patent and trademark infringement.

    many Harley owners that want their Harley to really run replace the engine with the aftermarket ones.

    I thought the future of Buell was the 1125 Rotax engine. According to an article in Motor Cyclist 11/07, Harley gave permission to Buell to pursue the Rotax connection. I can't imagine a problem securing engines from Rotax. Doesn't the F800s use a Rotax engine?

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    AKbeemer--are you telling us that George has a V-Rod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swall View Post
    AKbeemer--are you telling us that George has a V-Rod?
    Yes he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddingGeezer View Post
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    I thought the future of Buell was the 1125 Rotax engine. According to an article in Motor Cyclist 11/07, Harley gave permission to Buell to pursue the Rotax connection. I can't imagine a problem securing engines from Rotax. Doesn't the F800s use a Rotax engine?

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    The future of Buell was to be the 1125 built by Rotax as is the F800 as you point out. As far as I can tell the delays in the NA introduction of the F800 can go in large part to Buell and their start of engine production at Rotax taking up resources.

    I don't believe there was or would be a problem securing engines from Rotax. Rather this was a decision to stop the Buell line that resulted in continuing the relationship with Buell.

    With the decision to end Buell the contract with Rotax was in some way shape ofr form not renewed. I have not found good information on what Rotax is planning to replace that contract with; however, as diversified as their engine markets are they should have no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddingGeezer View Post
    Doesn't the F800s use a Rotax engine?
    I believe all the F bikes use a Rotax engine.
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    that is a good looking bike. i dig the xr12 also.

    the forward controls on the standard v-rods are ridiculously very forward. its a total stretch for legs and arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika View Post
    In the various threads about the closing of Buell several people commented on why not build a bike based on the V-Rod engine. Eric Buell has long been reported as discounting that idea because of the engines size and weight. ........
    Actually the Porsche designed engine was originally going to Buell, at the last minute HD chose to keep it themselves. The ergonomic disaster V-Rod was the result. One can only guess what type of motorcycle Eric was working on to utilize that engine.
    Now that HD has Eric Buell for themselves I hope they direct him to come up with a new motorcycle utilizing the V-Rod drivetrain. Maybe something along the line of the one here posted by Mika?

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