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    Thank you BMW!!

    Our friends at BMW have decided NOT to appear at the majority of Cycle World International Motorcycle Shows this year. Evidently they will only put in an appearance at the Los Angeles and New York shows. I guess if you live anywhere else in the country, your appreciation of their product doesn't count for much.
    This is the only decent annual motorcycle exibition in my area (Pacific Northwest). I look forward to attending every year.
    I have owned three Boxer twins (airhead ,oilhead and hexhead). I strongly believe they are the finest motorcycle produced . I am a member of BMWMOA. I go to annual regional BMW rallies. I fervently defend my choice of motorcycle to the knuckleheaded Harley riding crowd at the factory where I work. But I'm getting a little tired of holding up the BMW banner alone. I guess I should just keep in mind that this is a company which steadfastly refuses to issue me two keys to a motorcycle I paid over $15,000.00 for new in 2006. This is getting tiresome-

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    Their lack of attendance could be, and likely is, a reflection of decreased sales due to the economic downturn. BMW motorcycle sales are down. The company has to cut back I imagine. You mention Harley. Their sales are down and I heard they were not at Daytona this year. When things improve I think you'll see a higher profile from the company.

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    I think we will find other manufacturers dropping out of these shows as well due to the current state of our economy. These shows cost a lot of money for a manufacturer to participate in with a marginal return on their investment. Triumph dropped out several years ago before the economy got as bad as it is now. It is going to be harder for the promoters to fill the spaces and as a result we might also find a reduction in the dates and locations of this show in the years to come.

    Perhaps the promotors will reduce their booth space a bit in order to attract more local vendors and cycle shops. Right now the costs associated with the show are cost prohibitive for most local shops to consider participating in,.

    We are certainly in the midst of some interesting economic times.

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    PS I heard Buell also dropped out. Sorry that was a cheap shot. LOL
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    But we, the riders, certainly know more about how BMW should run their business than they do. I for example know that I want a show in Austin, and they certainly need a dealership in Terlingua, and they need to build a modern Airhead, and tubes in tires are from the 19th century, and their paint schemes suck, their seats are at too high an elevation, and they need more chrome, and they need .......
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    Bike shows

    Quote Originally Posted by masione View Post
    Our friends at BMW have decided NOT to appear at the majority of Cycle World International Motorcycle Shows this year. Evidently they will only put in an appearance at the Los Angeles and New York shows. I guess if you live anywhere else in the country, your appreciation of their product doesn't count for much.
    This is the only decent annual motorcycle exibition in my area (Pacific Northwest). I look forward to attending every year.
    I have owned three Boxer twins (airhead ,oilhead and hexhead). I strongly believe they are the finest motorcycle produced . I am a member of BMWMOA. I go to annual regional BMW rallies. I fervently defend my choice of motorcycle to the knuckleheaded Harley riding crowd at the factory where I work. But I'm getting a little tired of holding up the BMW banner alone. I guess I should just keep in mind that this is a company which steadfastly refuses to issue me two keys to a motorcycle I paid over $15,000.00 for new in 2006. This is getting tiresome-
    They will be at the Vancouver, BC. show,
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    For those fortunate enough that can get to NYC, another reason to attend the BIG Gig IV - good company, good food and the latest Beemers.
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    Re your key problem ÔÇô why donÔÇÖt you contact the MOAÔÇÖs Consumer Liaison Paul Johnson and see if he can help you with it. You can find his contact information in ON located on the page listing BMW MOA officers, directors and volunteer staff normally around page 6 or 7.

    Re bike shows ÔÇô Everyone keeps forgetting that Cycle World was ready to drop the show circuit because it wasnÔÇÖt profitable for them until Toyota signed on as a co-sponsor. Now I believe they are gone and in the future I suspect CW could be faced with the same decision.

    Honda and Yamaha are on the bill in the US but no shows in Europe.

    H-D and Kawasaki were both nailed by bloggers for their lack of presence at Biketoberfest at the same time both are struggling for their corporate lives.

    BMW and Husqvarna will be at the Milan show in November. This is the biggest motorcycle show in the world. BMW must think they will get the biggest bang for their marketing buck with this approach. I have troubles arguing with them. Their Canadian sales, until September, have been up for the last year in double digits. In September they finally ran into a month that had new releases in the previous year and a weaker Loonie. In the US their sales have been flat or down but have experienced no where near the decline that other brands have. In the process they have increased their market share.

    Do bike shows drive people to the dealers or are they a way for people to stay out of them? We all have anecdotal to say yes to the former but in fact I believe the latter to be true.

    We have on going BMW dealer obituary threads on the forum. Other brands are having closings also. DealerNews.com ran a piece today about Harley and Polaris dealer closing rates.

    If you are a fan of Suzuki I wonder who you will be talking to at their Cycle World Show stand? roadracingworld.com ran this headline today - American Suzuki lays off entire press relations department

    Remember the old saying ÔÇ£May you live in interesting timesÔÇØ? This is 2009 not 1999 and things have not been this interesting in the motorcycle industry since the late 70ÔÇÖs early 80ÔÇÖs.
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    Not even Chicago? That sucks

    I guess I'll be there anyway...

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    I like to do the test rides at the cycle shows. I do not want to, or not able to get test rides at dealers. However, to date I have not bought any of the bikes I test rode. And I do not want to waste a dealers time and money.

    Why?

    Well, they are not that much better than my RS and I am a living example of a cheap BMW owner.

    Now when it is time for the RS to go, then these rides will determine what I buy. But when that will be is unknown. And next will probably NOT be BMW unless they learn how to make a final drive, and get some quality control. There just is not enough difference in the suspensions and ABS to make that justification any more.

    What do you think the BMW motorcycle quality manager would do when he delivers a report that the idle problems on the new K1300 are fixed, and then he found out the head of BMW Motorrad just bought one and was going to ride it, if there was a failure, heads would roll. That would be fun, and is EXACTLY the sort of thing they need to shake up the structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    But we, the riders, certainly know more about how BMW should run their business than they do. I for example know that I want a show in Austin, and they certainly need a dealership in Terlingua, and they need to build a modern Airhead, and tubes in tires are from the 19th century, and their paint schemes suck, their seats are at too high an elevation, and they need more chrome, and they need .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by masione View Post
    . I fervently defend my choice of motorcycle to the knuckleheaded Harley riding crowd at the factory where I work. But I'm getting a little tired of holding up the BMW banner alone.
    OH that's always a FUN thing, to defend BMW to the Harley crowd. I steal their own line!:
    "If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand".
    GETS 'em every time. Try it, it's fun!

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    Trade Shows . . . .

    I have been involved with the new yacht business for 12 years. Every year Annapolis has been the Mecca. It is the largest in-water boatshow in the world. People used to visit from all over the world.
    This year the sailboat show was well attended. The motoryacht show was a bust.
    Very unusual. There were a few manufacturers out of business and there were some who couldn't afford to participate.
    Next year will be smaller. It is a sign of the times.
    Investment in marketing such as trade shows requires the vendor or manufacturer to expect some return on their investment.
    I would rather BMW was conservative and was around for another century. I'm sorry some are disappointed.
    Time for a reality sandwich!

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    Quote Originally Posted by masione View Post
    Our friends at BMW have decided NOT to appear at the majority of Cycle World International Motorcycle Shows this year. Evidently they will only put in an appearance at the Los Angeles and New York shows. I guess if you live anywhere else in the country, your appreciation of their product doesn't count for much.
    This is the only decent annual motorcycle exibition in my area (Pacific Northwest). I look forward to attending every year.
    I have owned three Boxer twins (airhead ,oilhead and hexhead). I strongly believe they are the finest motorcycle produced . I am a member of BMWMOA. I go to annual regional BMW rallies. I fervently defend my choice of motorcycle to the knuckleheaded Harley riding crowd at the factory where I work. But I'm getting a little tired of holding up the BMW banner alone. I guess I should just keep in mind that this is a company which steadfastly refuses to issue me two keys to a motorcycle I paid over $15,000.00 for new in 2006. This is getting tiresome-
    Masione, I too was disappointed that for the second year in a row that BMW would not be at the IMS. South Sound BMW is planning on being there this year with BMW's and HUSKIES(they recently started carrying them) so while it isn't corporate at least this dealer sees the value of having a presence at the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    OH that's always a FUN thing, to defend BMW to the Harley crowd. I steal their own line!:
    "If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand".
    GETS 'em every time. Try it, it's fun!

    Gilly
    Around here, when someone asks you about what kind of motorcycle you ride, they really are asking you what kind of Harley you ride. I tell them I ride a BMW because "some people like to look good but some of us want to get there."
    'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickG View Post
    I think we will find other manufacturers dropping out of these shows as well due to the current state of our economy.
    Big car companies are skipping big auto shows, too. See Tokyo.
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