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    F800 Rt

    Seems like the R-RT is a popular model and I was just curious to see if any one has ever heard a whisper about BMW considering an RT version of the F800. Not sure if would be a big hit, but I might consider one.

    My thoughts are based on the fact that the K75 was a popular model and the F800 might be also. Enough of the power wars give me some thing that is economical to operate and reasonably comfortable for days ride.

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    The RT is one version of the F800 that BMW has never mentioned. When the only versions available were the S/ST, an announcement was made of the upcoming GS and R. Now they're also in production, still not a whisper of an RT.

    So I made a "GT": http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23986
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    I would personally think if they did an 800RT, it would hurt the 1200RT sales. Plus I think it would be a lot of strain on the 800 motor with 2 people, gear, and then the normal weight of the RT including a larger alternator sucking off of the motor.

    I highly doubt an 800RT, but who knows?

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    I have to agree

    I have to agree here, the F800ST is an excellent bike, I love mine, but to make it a RT style bike would defeat its design. The thing that makes the F800ST work is its light weight and good HP to weight (as well as torque), you start adding all the RT goodies to this bike and it will lose its beauty. The ST configuration is great and fits a niche that is not really addressed by the other manufactures. To make it an RT would require it to compete in a class that really is over crowded already. I tour already with mine, and its light weight and handling works fine as is. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by klennop View Post
    Plus I think it would be a lot of strain on the 800 motor with 2 people, gear, and then the normal weight of the RT

    I think the world is ready for an almost fully dressed 600-800cc bike. I have a r12gs and a r1150rt and I am constantly looking for a nice k75 for both cross country and around town riding. There was a time when two folks packed up their 400 or 500cc bike and took off cross country on vacation.
    I know quite a few folks who want a full dress bike, but don't want the weight of a electra glide, or a gold wing, or even a k12lt. YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by klennop View Post
    I would personally think if they did an 800RT, it would hurt the 1200RT sales. Plus I think it would be a lot of strain on the 800 motor with 2 people, gear, and then the normal weight of the RT including a larger alternator sucking off of the motor.

    I highly doubt an 800RT, but who knows?
    I think you hit the major reason with it would largely cannibalize an existing bike's market instead of expanding the sales base for BMW. I agree with the list of design obstacles but I think they could be overcome. The main point is I don't see the result of that design process generating enough new sales to justify it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klennop View Post
    I would personally think if they did an 800RT, it would hurt the 1200RT sales. Plus I think it would be a lot of strain on the 800 motor with 2 people, gear, and then the normal weight of the RT including a larger alternator sucking off of the motor.

    I highly doubt an 800RT, but who knows?
    The F800 makes a couple more horsepower than the R1150R/R1150GS and is a hundred pounds lighter. No strain on the F8 motor at all.

    My wife prefers the F800ST to the R1150R for touring comfort. Bigger is not always better.
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    Thanks for the replys folks.

    Just a couple of comments from the replies.

    If BMW is worried about an F800RT taking market share from the R1200RT why are they building F800 GS models? wouldn't that have the same effect on the 1200GS?

    Like Maxcycles stated: There is a market segment looking for a mid sized tourer. I own a 1200 LT and I can see where this bike would be a real handfull for shorter or weaker people. (it is a handfull for me at times) By weaker, I mean people who for some reason have limited leg strength, be it age, or a medical condition.

    I don't see that having a mid-sized tourer would detract from BMW sales, I see it may increase them by getting the segment that wants a mid sized bike.

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    I've wondered if BMW would build a F800RT. Personally I think it has the potential to be a good seller. It would certainly need to be capable of "loaded down, two-up touring" but I believe it's main focus should be a little different. And now I put on my "David Robb hat":

    The 2010 R800RT will be lighter and less expensive than the R12RT. It will appeal to a wide variety of riders. These will include solo touring, older seasoned riders down-sizing from heavier Gold Wings, GT's, and LT's, women, new touring riders, and commuters.
    Adjustable ergonomics to fit such a wide spectrum will include multi position seats, handlebars, windshield, and foot pegs including shift and brake levers. Built-in mounting docks will allow factory quick-removable back-rest, trunk, tank bag, and full size saddlebags. The muffler will be lowered to allow this. The F800RT fairing will offer protection from the wind and elements similar to the K13GT and approaching that of the R12RT. It will also incorporate storage compartments for your papers, glasses, Glock , etc. Usable gas capacity is increased to 5.8 gallons. Final drive will be belt. The transmission ratios will be changed. In comparison to the lighter and sportier ST, the RT will have a lower (active) first for starting out, and such times when 2-up loaded down on a steep incline. Sixth is now 6% taller allowing for optimum mpg and more relaxed cruising.

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