My Vote is for Hawaii. Fair is fair.How much easier could this be??
My Vote is for Hawaii. Fair is fair.How much easier could this be??
"Stupidity, if left untreated, is self-correcting."
I'll throw in a suggestion for future consideration.
Bozeman, MT
I know since the rally was in Gillette, maybe not soon. But this is a great area. The weather would be nice and there's incredible rides in the area. Definitely keep on the radar screen. My other hobby is Airstream trailers. We just had our international rally there on the MSU campus. They were excellent hosts.
Dallas
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You're from Wisconson, my friend. You can't fully appreciate the hell that is the heat and humidity of July in the southeastOriginally Posted by Greenwald
I've been to the EAA convention in Oshkosh several times as well as the fantastic Rally we had in West Bend and can say from those five experiences of camping in WI in July that your summer temps, humidity and cool evenings in July are to be envied.
Now, lets not talk about December through April ......
Ohio was pretty miserable for camping comfort. I skipped this years Rally because I went through Gillette in July 07 and found the location to be miserable at that time. All reports I have heard indicate that the temps were not an issue this year. So what's the point? ....... I don't know. What's the question?
I'd like to invite you all to the Seattle Rain Festival. It usually runs from January 1st to December 31st.Now, lets not talk about December through April ...
But it looks as though it may be longer this year...
"Stupidity, if left untreated, is self-correcting."
We ride the most adventurous bikes on the planet, carry the most expensive/best gear along with us and ride further and places most bikers never dream about. Weather? I don't care that much. A rally, lets get r done anywhere, is what its all about. I've been riding in every state many times over and one can find great and really bad days to ride in about any of them. You take your chances every time, on every trip and thank goodness, most work out fine. We sure have had a share of good storms brew over us at many rallies in recent memory and most come out with a story to tell for another days riding. Nobody said biking was ever to be perfect days, temperature wise and we or at least "I" will always come along, hot,cold,rain or sun and camp my rear off until I'm too old to get r done anymore. Not soon
Atta Boy, Randy! May I ride, camp and live till my grandchildren take the keys away!We ride the most adventurous bikes on the planet, carry the most expensive/best gear along with us and ride further and places most bikers never dream about. Weather? I don't care that much
Well if that dosen't scare you, how about 100,000 gathered under the Arch to hear campaign rhetoric? That ought to do it.
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THAT would scare me!Well if that dosen't scare you, how about 100,000 gathered under the Arch to hear campaign rhetoric? That ought to do it.
Kevin Greenwald - Touring Tips Editor
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I can't quite see Russia from my house
So I have to guess; maybe I'm not worthy!
HA!
"Stupidity, if left untreated, is self-correcting."
Absolutely correct. Unless you like to Nordic (Cross-country) ski, December - April in WI is one big yawn.You're from Wisconson, my friend. You can't fully appreciate the hell that is the heat and humidity of July in the southeast
I've been to the EAA convention in Oshkosh several times as well as the fantastic Rally we had in West Bend and can say from those five experiences of camping in WI in July that your summer temps, humidity and cool evenings in July are to be envied.
Now, lets not talk about December through April ......
Ohio was pretty miserable for camping comfort. I skipped this years Rally because I went through Gillette in July 07 and found the location to be miserable at that time. All reports I have heard indicate that the temps were not an issue this year. So what's the point? ....... I don't know. What's the question?
You also heard right.....temps in Gillette this year during the Rally were not an issue. Actually quite pleasant when I was there. Now, location, vendors and storms? Best discussed between us alone over coffee some time.
Being from 'out East,' can you tell me what I can anticipate for camping weather in TN in July?
Kevin Greenwald - Touring Tips Editor
Nationally Certified Law Enforcement Motor Officer (Ret.)
MSF RiderCoach # 121656 (BRC,SBRC,IS,IME,SMARTrainer,THE REF Staff)
Iron Butt Association Member # 34281
I live about 60 miles from the rally location and my daughter lives about 10 miles from there. I find the daytime highs in July to be in the low to mid 80s. Night time lows are in the low 60s. Humidity is not high here in the mountains (I live at 2,500 feet but Johnson City/Gray is between 1500 and 1600 feet). Temperatures at night is normally very comfortable for camping and there will be a heavy dew almost every morning.
Ken
'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.
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Sounds quite doable.
Thanks!
Kevin Greenwald - Touring Tips Editor
Nationally Certified Law Enforcement Motor Officer (Ret.)
MSF RiderCoach # 121656 (BRC,SBRC,IS,IME,SMARTrainer,THE REF Staff)
Iron Butt Association Member # 34281
There seems to be a belief that this is the BMWMO of usA club, as opposed to the BMWMO of America club. (Check the club crest).
i.e. You've forgotten the other two countries in North America.
Unless my memory is faulty, the rally in Canada was well attended and enjoyed by members. I think that's why it's called the INTERNATIONAL Rally, so that we can go to other countries and see something different than our own country.
How about a rally in the southern most country in North America?
Regards, Rod.
Work is the curse of the riding class
So - bottom line - other than it's a lot of work for the volunteers who do it - what precisely is wrong with the current method of selecting rally sites?
Other than simply spewing my opinions,I can't solve a problem until the specific problem is defined and examined.
Between 1984 and 2004 when I retired, I was employed full time and had limited vacation time and still managed to attend every BMW MOA International Rally except Moodus, CT in 1993 when I had just (weeks before) changed employers and had zero accumulated vacation. Priorities!! Montana, California, Florida, Texas, Vermont, Canada, and every one at locations in between. Since I retired in '04 I've also made them all - but since I'm retired that's almost too easy.
Some sites were better than others. None were horrible. Some sites handled weather problems better than others - which is a factor. My days doing seminars in sheep sheds with 100 degree heat and 100 db exhaust fans were a lot less fun than air conditioned seminar rooms. "Swimming" in the cattle troughs in 102 degree heat at York, PA was memorable but not as much fun as sitting in 85 degree shade in Texas.
In years past I put a priority on nice soft shady camping spots. Today I may well prefer nice, inexpensive motel rooms as a priority. But others will not have the same likes and dislikes that I do, at the micro level.
But back to the original question - what is the problem we are trying to solve?
Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
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