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    Be Seen!

    With three great riding days and perfect weather behind me, I decided to do a bit of tinkering today seeing as it was a bit overcast.

    So I cut some strips of 3M High Intensity Grade Prismatic Reflective Sheeting - White 3930 and applied it to my GiVi cases behind the reflectors (after removing the white vinyl that GiVi applied).

    I never bothered with the GiVi accessory lights after reading how problematic the contacts are. This is a far easier and better solution.

    Left side: with 3M High Intensity Grade Prismatic Reflective Sheeting - White 3930. Right side: with GiVi OEM white vinyl.




    3M High Intensity Grade Prismatic Reflective Sheeting - White 3930 applied to areas under both reflectors...




    I'll get around to doing the center section and handle next.

    How to for GiVi E52 Maxia cases; others may be similar.
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    That looks awesome. I have a GIVI case and thought the same thing about its reflective qualities, lacking. I will definitely try this out. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradleypurple View Post
    That looks awesome. I have a GIVI case and thought the same thing about its reflective qualities, lacking. I will definitely try this out. Thanks.
    Yeah, not bad for $3 worth of reflective film making it money well spent.

    The 12" x 24" sheet ran me $10 from a local road sign supplier.

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    Wow.

    What a neat idea!

    I don't have any topcases for my rides, but my wife has a Givi E340 on the back of her Vino 125. I'm definitely going to look into upgrading with the tape.
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    One member sent me a PM and asked...

    Did you just take the lens off then just stick the reflector tape on back of the tail light....

    this is neat and like to do my K1200LTC same
    There are no tail lights on the GiVi bag, at least not on my mine, unless you meant the red reflector lenses.

    Once the red reflector lenses are removed, you should find a white piece of adhesive vinyl stuck to the black plastic of the GiVi case itself.

    Those strips of white vinyl were peeled off and the plastic under them was cleaned using alcohol to remove any oils, etc.

    The reflective film does not get applied to the lenses, but to the GiVi case itself.

    Check out the link at the bottom of the first post for detailed info.

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    Nice work Alex - very ingenious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semper_Fi View Post
    Nice work Alex - very ingenious.
    Actually another local rider's idea that I finally got around to implementing.

    Applying that reflective film to the handle and center section of the reflector is a bit tricky and certainly more time consuming. But that applies to my GiVi E52 Maxia; other models and makes might be easier. I'll post details shortly.

    3M Reflective Sheeting Sample Card
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    Good thread. I've been toying with the idea of reflective tape on the back and sides of my Vario bags for some time now.




    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalRider View Post
    And since going to the 3M web site, what I originally thought I was supplied with wasn't 3M SOLAS but 3M High Intensity Grade Prismatic Reflective Sheeting - White 3930.

    3M Reflective Sheeting Sample Card
    Helpful little link. Thank you.

    Okay, now from the Department of Silly Questions...

    What is the difference in 3M Diamond, 3M High Intensity, 3M SOLAS, etc...? I've read threads here and in other forums extolling the virtues of 3M Diamond, and others about 3M SOLAS. Are they the same thing? Is SOLAS the manufacturer, or a grade of reflectivity? How about the term 3M or Diamond? Is everybody purchasing them from the manufacturer, internet sales, hardware stores, or some other place?

    Please excuse my ignorance and seeming inability to know what's what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercindy View Post
    Good thread. I've been toying with the idea of reflective tape on the back and sides of my Vario bags for some time now.

    Helpful little link. Thank you.

    Okay, now from the Department of Silly Questions...

    What is the difference in 3M Diamond, 3M High Intensity, 3M SOLAS, etc...? I've read threads here and in other forums extolling the virtues of 3M Diamond, and others about 3M SOLAS. Are they the same thing? Is SOLAS the manufacturer, or a grade of reflectivity? How about the term 3M or Diamond? Is everybody purchasing them from the manufacturer, internet sales, hardware stores, or some other place?

    Please excuse my ignorance and seeming inability to know what's what.

    No sweat, I'm only just starting to understand what is out there in the way of reflective materials.

    SOLAS: Safety Of Life At Sea

    3M is a company that makes countless products...Scotchgard spray, etc.

    I did read either on the 3M site or elsewhere that a "standard" has been set for road & traffic sign requirements in the USA and that 3M Diamond Grade^3 meet it. Google to get more info.

    What are the differences in those products? I don't have a clue...yet. But I do like what I used because it is very durable.

    I bought a 12" x 24" sheet from a company (Beacon Lite) that is in the business of renting/making those roadside pylons with reflective tape around them. You see them anywhere there is road construction. Also try marine supply stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalRider View Post
    I'll get around to doing the center section and handle next.
    And the finished product with 3M High Intensity Grade Prismatic Reflective Sheeting behind all the reflectors on the GiVi E52 Maxia top case...



    The reflective sheeting for the two reflectors in the handle and the center reflector were a bit more time consuming to cut to shape. I used the white plastic sheets within those sections that GiVi had installed, as guides.

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    Great idea. I wish we had a hall of wisdom similar to ADVRIDER to make this easier to access in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeman View Post
    Great idea. I wish we had a hall of wisdom similar to ADVRIDER to make this easier to access in the future.
    All I did was create a folder in My Favorites called Technical Stuff for the various forum threads I came across over the years. Its also useful for finding your own tech threads so that you can update them.

    But I know what you mean.

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    Thanks for the tip Alex. It only took a few minutes and wow, those red reflectors now reflect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_F View Post
    Thanks for the tip Alex. It only took a few minutes and wow, those red reflectors now reflect!
    Any pics?

    And what product did you end up using...3M SOLAS or 3M High Intensity Grade Reflective Sheeting...or something else?

    BTW, I also got the car out and flashed my high beams at the back of my parked motorcycle which was parked further down the road. Yup!

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