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    Weirdest thing, Airhead Central dead after midnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milescitymt View Post
    Overall the event was a dud.
    I couldn't agree less- and I'm sorry your first post was flavored with disappointment. Maybe it's because you didn't have as far to go as others did... We were just happy to be there. I can agree about the food vendors- but we still ate.
    Quote Originally Posted by milescitymt View Post
    One more observation that BMWOA should take note of. I was one of the guys there getting grey hair- I saw a real lack of youth, young riders, and young passengers. There were some youth event and youth activities, but BMWOA is going to fade away if more younger riders aren't brought into the fold to learn the joys of riding, owning, working on, and sharing BMW motorcycles. There were a lot of old guys there, not many young ones.
    My GF and I were there... Very early thirties. Too old for camp GEARS and too young for the AARP. Had a great time. First rally...
    Honestly most "young people" either don't get the allure of BMW Motorcycles (something I attempt to impact) or can't afford BMW motorcycles.

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    I had one BIG problem with this year's rally.

    HUGE.

    And that is, I couldn't go. While you were out having a blast (or, not having a blast) I was sitting behind a desk staring out the window and stealing glances at the site whenever folks were kind enough to post near-realtime pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeGuy View Post
    I couldn't agree less- and I'm sorry your first post was flavored with disappointment. Maybe it's because you didn't have as far to go as others did... We were just happy to be there. I can agree about the food vendors- but we still ate.

    My GF and I were there... Very early thirties. Too old for camp GEARS and too young for the AARP. Had a great time. First rally...
    Honestly most "young people" either don't get the allure of BMW Motorcycles (something I attempt to impact) or can't afford BMW motorcycles.
    I have a picture or two of y'all somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    I had one BIG problem with this year's rally.

    HUGE.

    And that is, I couldn't go. While you were out having a blast (or, not having a blast) I was sitting behind a desk staring out the window and stealing glances at the site whenever folks were kind enough to post near-realtime pics
    Tennessee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerron View Post
    Weirdest thing, Airhead Central dead after midnight.
    they were all over at the blacksheep compound, drinking moonshine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milescitymt View Post
    I live nearby; about 2 1/2 hours on nice two lane highways, which I prefer over interstate any day. I did not expect a lot of the Gillette area having been there many times- I was right. Not much to do around town and the locals and local businesses didn't have much of a role in the event. I did eat at Pokey's BBQ and it was quite enjoyable. I wish Gillette had more places to eat away from the Rally because I too thought the Rally vendors left a lot to be desired. The guy with the big barbecue, from Arizona I think, made some good chicken, but it was a loooong wait and wait and wait. I think he was having trouble with the thin air or something.

    As for riding, Gillette sucks. It's flat, straight, usually hot and dry (unless a storm is going through). My bikes were both kaput and I had no choice but taking my car. I'm glad I did because we passed through high wind, rain, and 1/2" hail on the way down. I agree Cody or Sheridan would have been much better locations for riding and stuff to see and do. Gillette has proximity to almost nothing, and two hours to nearby scenic places is a long way.

    I felt the number of vendors was a bit low for a "national" event, but i realize it's the middle of nowhere and we're talking about 5000 patrons to try to sell to? They cant stay open all night. There were some quality companies and people there with decent deals on some stuff. If you've got a BMW (or perhaps a Harley) you know they cost too much, accessories are even higher, and service comes at a steep premium. If you don't agree you're in la la land, or you make way more money than I do.

    As for the volunteers, organizers, BMWOA people, and all the others involved in putting it together I think they did a great job. Their hands were somewhat tied by the location (Gillette) and the venue (CamPlax). I am sure they all worked very hard, put in many, many hours, and gave it their all. They are to be congratulated for all the effort.

    Overall the event was a dud.

    One more observation that BMWOA should take note of. I was one of the guys there getting grey hair- I saw a real lack of youth, young riders, and young passengers. There were some youth event and youth activities, but BMWOA is going to fade away if more younger riders aren't brought into the fold to learn the joys of riding, owning, working on, and sharing BMW motorcycles. There were a lot of old guys there, not many young ones.
    It's interesting to note that this thread was entitled: "Had A Great Time, Except....."

    That invited the negative or highly critical comments that many of the posts reflect. Yet the thread's original author, while being disappointed at one place where they ate, essentially makes positive statements about his experience at Gillette. Glad he enjoyed himself.

    I tend to agree with your disection of Gillette (though calling it "a dud" is a bit harsh), and also that the volunteers are to be held immune from what is perceived as 'wrong' with this rally. They represent what is best about the MOA and always will.

    Like you, I traveled to Gillette despite some misgivings and 'gave it a chance.' But location hobbled it from the very beginning, and no amount of planning or cheerleading ended up attracting enough vendors, food service or patrons to give it the 'bragging rights' that Vermont or West Bend bask in. I realize that a rally is not all about numbers (attendance, revenue, etc.), but if you're going to employ the over-used mantra of "It's not the destination, it's the Journey," you don't need a rally....just a map.

    Keep in mind that you could run the BMW roundel up a flagpole in the middle of a junkyard near Three Mile Island and get a predictable number of hardcore members to show up, party away significant portions of their livers, and declare the 'rally' a success.

    I don't know whether or not to just shake my head at these guys when they show up or admire such dedication.

    But I have learned that they are an essential part of the MOA. A sort of 'veteran's corps' that will keep the torch burning thru lean years, poor rally sites and aging demographics. I salute them.

    I also agree that 'youth' needs to be injected into the body of our club if it is to remain healthy. Cracking the 40,000+ membership level this year was triumphant, but younger blood is needed to sustain growth.

    In that vein (no pun intended), perhaps future rallies could offer mounds of dirt nearby, sculpted to entertain the GS crowd; a band on at least one night that plays music recognized by a younger generation; a charity bike wash, staffed by ladies that would earn the scrutiny of my SO; seminars tailored to the needs of young riders, etc.

    The original author of "Had A Great Time, Except...." seemed to have had a good time at Gillette, and it's unfortunate that his thread was seized by those of us who seek to 'improve the breed' by first pointing out what needs correcting, and then (hopefully) offering constructive suggestions.

    I'm anxious for Johnson City - I see great potential in it's location. But what I know will automatically be present are the two cornerstones of the MOA:

    1) The volunteers that will make it run smoothly, and...

    2) That 'Veteran Corps' that would show up, no matter where, no matter what, and no matter why any of us find fault with a rally site.

    Gotta admire those guys!
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    That was because we had all volunteered to help with , security, registration and the air store. Then we drank and danced (at least I did) until we passed out and got up around 6 a.m. to start the whole cycle over again.
    I don't get the complaints at all. The only thing I'd like to see is product vendors open later than six p.m. I was working until six p.m. most days.
    Shade? I had a small tree over my tent in WY, None in WI. I rode WI hwy 33 to west bend, great road.
    I road Beartooth and 296 to Gillette. Even better roads. Karol said 13 food vendors and I believe her, I could count 10 sitting here.
    North forty had the best breakfast. Went to a Chinese buffet in town and had a fantastic lunch one day. Had to go to town for Air Central supplies anyway.
    NRPS Was Great!!!
    The Beer selection was great, OLD PORTER 90!
    Maybe closing was a little long but hey some of it was well deserved congratulations and recognition. For me Rally's are about:
    1. A great excuse to ride somewhere I may not have gone otherwise.
    2. A chance to make new friends and hang out with old ones.
    3. Volunteering to help make the rally successful. This a volunteer organization after all.
    4. Having Fun. Drinking a little beer, eating some vendor food (who knows what it will be? That's part of the adventure), maybe dancing to a great band, telling stories and /or lies. Helping some guy fix his European light switch

    Can't wait to see what TN will be like!

    As always the first beer is on me.
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    Tennessee?
    Things are looking up
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    Thanks, again

    Thanks again for seeing great friends.
    Thanks for the opportunity to meet new ones.
    Thank you for the wonderful roads and unimaginable landscapes of the USA.
    Thanks to Deb and Karol, again.
    Thanks to all the Ambassadors.
    Thanks to Vince and Mandy.
    Thanks to all the volunteers.
    Thanks, trully, for the great country you all represent.
    Thanks for all my friends and people from Canada.

    We have had some Rallies better than others in Mexico.
    West Bend was my first, and Gillette my second.
    If you ask me about the 2008 Gillette Rally itself, it was a nice event, but I think West Bend was better.
    Both were great organized, but I liked more the one of last year.
    May be it's true : "never as good as the first time".
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    "son" I personally can not say enough I mean all the people that came and put this together that is a tough thing to do. And I can not wait until next year because Tenn is only a days ride for me so I WILL go to that one can not wait at all.

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    Had a great time except

    Except for the incessant whining about food, noisy band, and showers. At some point folks you have to compromise. Did you think it was going to be quiet next to the beer tent??
    The lower 40 had excellent shower facilities for those fastidious enough to have to shower daily while camping.
    The food off the rally site isn't the fault of the rally Chairfolks. Keep in mind that there is life before, during and after a rally no matter where it is held. If you had gone to Jackson, Wyoming or even Sheridan, Wyoming you would have to contend with tourists or locals who actually live there. I know it's hard to believe, but the west is more than a playground for those who live east of that big river.
    Ride safe. and come back when you have more time. I'll show you some of the finest riding anywhere.

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    even though the rally lacked a little in the food dept so does my house on occasion. overall it was pretty good and i had a great time. i already have my reservations for TN and am looking forward to seeing some friends there.

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