This is long. Sorry bout that but it is a ride report...

[knary]

I think too many of us want to be Ian & Charley.

Define "too many".

There was a time when people didn't think it was the tool that determined the possibilities.

[sibud]

On Old Ore Road, the airhead GS, HPN and Modified BMWÔÇÖs do well generally and are comfortable to push through the sand and up the rocky ledges.

Your answer that they have to be pushed would seem, at first glance, an indication that they are not suitable. Bikes are for riding, not pushing.

[redrider]

I am definitly going to remember the subject matter from this post when I ride through the SW in July. I would also venture to state that riding off pavement (ie fire roads) or similar could be hazardous to your health if riding alone and traffic is non-existant. A fall could lead to tragic consequences if no one is there to help.Lesson learned.

[Na Cl K9]

Your answer that they have to be pushed would seem, at first glance, an indication that they are not suitable. Bikes are for riding, not pushing.

By "Push" I mean simply "Ridden with extra attitude and purpose for a particular type of terrain", and at other times ÔÇ£CoaxedÔÇØ. The heavier bikes have more momentum to manage and need more man-handling at times and even just a bit of ÔÇ£CourageÔÇØ. That momentum is controlled by throttle, brakes and finesse.

...but you understood what I meant I think.

There are three ridges in the photograph behind the rider. Between the second and third ridge on the horizon to the far right is where we met. The pictured rider is a short distance from the pavement on the south end.

picture by Ted

[mrich12000]

good ride report. did he have an irish accent?

Nice to have someone who cares.

Was his name Charlie B*****man

[smilingcouple]

Being an old off road and desert rider there are several rules to live by.
1. Be prepared 2. Know the soil condition 3. When off road never never never ride alone.

Sand riding especially the weight of the bike, your experience, Tires and physical conditioning is most important.

Murf

[Visian]

3. When off road never never never ride alone.

i break this rule far too often....

ian

[knary]

i break this rule far too often....

ian

I don't break it often enough.

[Visian]

By "Push" I mean simply "Ridden with extra attitude and purpose for a particular type of terrain", and at other times “Coaxed”.

paul - i think you need to tell these folks about the lost boys.

ian