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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwDeb View Post
    I'll put the hotel information from the flyer in a separate post.

    Please do, bmwDeb, and thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redclfco View Post

    #2 By the amount of bitchin and a moanin, many WOULD like to go, but cant/won't experience the wonders of democracy in action, and pay the high cost of hotels. From the sound of it, the room ARE there, just going at a pretty penny.



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    I don't believe providing input should be considered "bitchin" and "moaning" only a true bureaucrat would think that that way.

    The high cost of motel rooms in Gillette seems to be a supply/demand issue rather than democracy in action. Burlington Vt. was right on Lake Champlain and the rally was in July. But guess what there were plenty of reasonably priced rooms available.

    I don't think we need to have a Rally in Las Vegas just to ensure ample rooms at a reasonable cost. What we need is competition and alternatives within reasonable driving distances of the rally site. This is a problem in some locations in the west due to the vast land areas and sparse population.

    I think the rally committeeÔÇÖs do a great job and deserve all the credit one can give. However I donÔÇÖt see the issue with trying to make the next one better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scootstado View Post
    I don't believe providing input should be considered "bitchin" and "moaning" only a true bureaucrat would think that that way.

    The high cost of motel rooms in Gillette seems to be a supply/demand issue rather than democracy in action. Burlington Vt. was right on Lake Champlain and the rally was in July. But guess what …there were plenty of reasonably priced rooms available.

    I don't think we need to have a Rally in Las Vegas just to ensure ample rooms at a reasonable cost. What we need is competition and alternatives within reasonable driving distances of the rally site. This is a problem in some locations in the west due to the vast land areas and sparse population.

    I think the rally committee’s do a great job and deserve all the credit one can give. However I don’t see the issue with trying to make the next one better.
    That’s all you got out of the post? That I called a bunch of repeat cry babies bitchers and moaners? How about the Sherpa Mayberry idea? Did you even read the post? No matter.

    If you have followed the posts concerning this issue on this forum thread and other related threads, there are some with real opinion who I do value their input and the powers above should as well, but too many who want no solutions other than to tear to sunder what obviously has taken much to set up and plan. That is "a bitchin and amoanin" I'm talking about. Constructive crique is one thing. tearing it up and spitting it out for alarmist purposes is entirely another issue, and needs to be addressed. Picking a conducive rally site in future years with motels as a #1 priority is a real goal, I would think.

    No amount of repeat caustic trump speeches painting the Wyoming horizon black is going to change this rally. The point of the lack of moderately priced hotels has been made, re made and thrashed about to the point where the only reason to continue to berate Wyoming is in MY opinion bitchin and moanin. Next year? Let’s hope the hotel issue can be addressed in a more positive direction.

    I think my point was here is a potential solution, so don't rip too deep into the semantics of what I was saying. Sorry to offend if you took it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootstado View Post
    The high cost of motel rooms in Gillette seems to be a supply/demand issue rather than democracy in action. Burlington Vt. was right on Lake Champlain and the rally was in July. But guess what there were plenty of reasonably priced rooms available.
    I think the higher prices in Gillette as compared to Burlington is a supply and demand thing. The lower prices in Burlington are possible because the occupancy rates are higher due to the location so the cost of building and operating the motel can be spread out more. In Gillette, the average occupancy rate is much lower because the demand is more in bursts when something is scheduled there. Therefore, the building and operating costs are passed on to fewer customers and the results are higher prices.
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    Best Value Inn-Gillette
    608 E. 2nd Street
    Gillette, WY US 82716
    Phone: 307-682-9341

    $95/night
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheRidesABeemer View Post
    Best Value Inn-Gillette
    608 E. 2nd Street
    Gillette, WY US 82716
    Phone: 307-682-9341

    $95/night

    Thank you! I saved this in my favorites. Three nights for $285 (AAA or AARP rate). Nice!
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    I agree with Scootstado. You can interpret this thread as bitchin' an moanin' or as constructive input. As has been mentioned, motel availability and rates should be considered in the future when a rally site is picked. It should have been this time. Perhaps the committee got a great deal on the facility. If so, great, and they should speak up. I seriously doubt the city will be able to bed the number of people who choose, for personal reasons, to stay in a motel. Others will be forced to commute a long distance from the rally. This plus the cost of rooms should have been a major consideration when Gillette was selected. If it was, then it must have been considered less important than some other unknown factor.

    It is usually very hot in Gillette in July. The "sherpa option" isn't really an option for people who don't want to put up with the heat, unless the sherpa tents are air conditioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awagnon View Post
    I agree with Scootstado. You can interpret this thread as bitchin' an moanin' or as constructive input. As has been mentioned, motel availability and rates should be considered in the future when a rally site is picked. It should have been this time. Perhaps the committee got a great deal on the facility. If so, great, and they should speak up. I seriously doubt the city will be able to bed the number of people who choose, for personal reasons, to stay in a motel. Others will be forced to commute a long distance from the rally. This plus the cost of rooms should have been a major consideration when Gillette was selected. If it was, then it must have been considered less important than some other unknown factor.

    It is usually very hot in Gillette in July. The "sherpa option" isn't really an option for people who don't want to put up with the heat, unless the sherpa tents are air conditioned.
    Some has been constructive and some is not. thats all I'm saying. Kudos for those of you who have constructive thoughts in mind when posting. Other posters , in many others do not meet that criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awagnon View Post
    It is usually very hot in Gillette in July. The "sherpa option" isn't really an option for people who don't want to put up with the heat, unless the sherpa tents are air conditioned.
    Naturally, the tents won't be air conditioned

    I am a bit perplexed, however, the many comments on how hot it's going to be. I'll add a couple graphs pulled from weather.com, one from Gillette and the other from West Bend. Not much difference, four degrees warmer in Gillette (on average) and six degrees cooler at night. Plus, I assume (I don't know for sure) that the humidity tends to be much lower in Gillette.

    It's going to be warm pretty much everywhere in the country in July, which is why I provide shade canopies for folks to use during the day. Worked out pretty nicely in West Bend.
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    Thanks for the graphs. I'm not going now.

    *snicker*

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    URL for Graphs??

    Super neat graphs, Ted. What site did you use to get them?

    I'm going anyway. Love riding in that area, and I'm looking forward to meeting friends old and new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    Super neat graphs, Ted. What site did you use to get them?

    I'm going anyway. Love riding in that area, and I'm looking forward to meeting friends old and new.

    Holly
    The graphs are produced by www.weather.com, just plug in the city you want info on, and in the 36 hour forecast window is a button labeled "averages".

    Getting them to jpg format side by side is another and much longer story

    I really like Wyoming myself, looking forward to it. And, given the lower humidity, it will on average feel cooler than West Bend (my estimate, not from the weather.com site).
    Also will be really nice sleeping weather.

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    Thanks

    Thanks for the URL. I have used the Weather Underground trip planner http://www.wunderground.com/tripplanner/index.asp but like these graphs better. Looking forward to those cool nights in Gillette. Should be fantastic

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    Very nice graphs, and a nice find to post. Thank you, SherpaMayberry.

    But it inadvertently kinda supports the "bitchin' and whinin'" theory: 85 degree highs is hot to some? Wish we had those here in July instead of 105 to 115 or so, but I also know many other temperature ranges and climes since I travel a lot and have lived in three far apart cities, so excuse me, but a 54 to 85 day is not "hot". Warm, maybe, but w/o an unusual heat wave, a tent seems useable.

    My issue with tenting is I'd rather pay for a hotel than try to carry it. I do not have much luggage space, and like it that way. But to claim its too hot for one?

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    Quote: "But it inadvertently kinda supports the "bitchin' and whinin'" theory: 85 degree highs is hot to some? Wish we had those here in July instead of 105 to 115 or so

    If you look at the same weather.com graph for Scottsdale, you'll see the average high in July is 104 or 105, not 115. But it does get to 115. Same for Gillette. Talk with someone from Gillette and they will tell you it gets hotter than 85 degrees in July, regularly. If you want to sleep in a tent, fine. But for 40% of the members, they prefer a motel, and Gillette just may not be able to provide it. ( 40% of 8,000 attending is 3,200. Are there 32 motels in Gillette with 100 empty rooms? )
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