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    Swimming at Rally-Speeding in WI

    Is there a Lake or pool on site at the rally location for us to swim at? If not, anything reasonably nearby? Suspect the heat will border on the intolerable.

    Also a WARNING to out-of-staters: HANDING OUT EXPENSIVE SPEEDING TICKETS HAS BECOME A COTTAGE INDUSTRY IN WISCONSIN. They LOVE out-out-of-staters and are not bashful about increasing your actual speed on a ticket by 10-15 mph to generate even more revenue for their coffers. Don't expect the same courtesy that was extended to the lidless crowd when Harley had their anniversary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRaoulDuke View Post
    Is there a Lake or pool on site at the rally location for us to swim at? If not, anything reasonably nearby? Suspect the heat will border on the intolerable.

    Also a WARNING to out-of-staters: HANDING OUT EXPENSIVE SPEEDING TICKETS HAS BECOME A COTTAGE INDUSTRY IN WISCONSIN. They LOVE out-out-of-staters and are not bashful about increasing your actual speed on a ticket by 10-15 mph to generate even more revenue for their coffers. Don't expect the same courtesy that was extended to the lidless crowd when Harley had their anniversary.

    My 2 Cents,
    That hasn't been my experience and I deal with speeding citations on a regular basis. I regularly cruise I-94 at 80mph and have NEVER been so much as stopped. I know I've probably just jinxed myself. Having said that, if you ride like an ass be prepared to pay.

    Just my 2 cents

    BTW, please review my previous post regarding speed trap at County Hwy G and I-94 in Racine County
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRaoulDuke View Post
    Is there a Lake or pool on site at the rally location for us to swim at? If not, anything reasonably nearby? Suspect the heat will border on the intolerable.
    There is a free county park about 5 miles away with a little sandy beach. Hospitality will have the info and directions. But the weather is predicted as very temperate, with highs around 80, and lows near 60. I'll take that.


    Quote Originally Posted by DrRaoulDuke View Post
    Also a WARNING to out-of-staters: HANDING OUT EXPENSIVE SPEEDING TICKETS HAS BECOME A COTTAGE INDUSTRY IN WISCONSIN. They LOVE out-out-of-staters and are not bashful about increasing your actual speed on a ticket by 10-15 mph to generate even more revenue for their coffers. Don't expect the same courtesy that was extended to the lidless crowd when Harley had their anniversary.
    I'm with Jack on this one. I tend to ride pretty agressively, and have yet to be treated poorly by our LEOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCabranes View Post
    BTW, please review my previous post regarding speed trap at County Hwy G and I-94 in Racine County
    I've never been treated rudely or unfairly by a LEO but I agree with with JCabranes about the Racine speedtrap. In fact, I would watch your speed all the way from the IL/WI state line to Milwaukee.

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    There are many small towns and areas which are prime "revenue enhancement" districts.

    Here's just a few I know of......

    1. Highway 23 and 26 through Rosendale just west of Fondulac. (5 over will get you a ticket)

    2. Highway 41 anywhere near Neenah, Appleton and south of Fon du lac on the aptly named Radar Hill. Lots of airplane activity.

    3. Highway 82 east of Mauston.

    4. South of Madison on the HWY N Stoughton exit...they park on the overpass and clock.

    5. Anywhere in Walworth or Rock Counties motorcyclists are fair game.

    6. The SW "driftless areas" have been pretty much ruined by the squids. Wildcat Mountain is heavily patrolled with an emphasis on motorcyclists on weekends.

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    Thanks for the warnings Karl! See you at the CG meeting on Thursday?
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    I got one following 2 semi's on a 2 lane road. And, I apparently was going faster than the vehicles in front of me.

    I am taking pictures of my speed on my Zumo, if I ever get stopped there again.

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    I too have never had a problem with any LEO in Wisconsin, including the County Mounties. But then, I generally ride within 10 mph or less over the speed limit. Plus, I know my speedo reads higher than my actual speed, so that helps.

    I also always ride wearing full gear, I feel the impression of being a "serious" rider has some impact on the officers.

    If I do get stopped, I am curtious, honest , and I wait for the officer to tell me what to do. In fact, I got this from a fellow MSF instructor who is a former State Patrol Motor Cop.

    He said when pulled over on a bike; 1) shut it off, sidestand down, 2) stay on the bike, 3) leave all your gear on, 4) keep your hands on the handlebar in full view, 5) wait for the officer to tell you, "step off the bike, remove your helmet, gloves, jacket, etc", 6) wait for the officer to ask for your license, don't be digging in pockets, saddlebags, fairing, etc, 7) when he/she asks, "do you know why I pulled you over?" Be honest. Doing this may just get you a warning and a "Welcome to Wisconsin" instead of a ticket. Its worked for me!

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    Thumbs down The Blame Game

    Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

    Officers in WI don't 'fabricate' your speed when pulled over - they have sophisticated hardware that confirms your speed, far more accurately than our speedometers or 'what we thought we were doing' when we got caught.

    I don't always keep my speed within posted limits, usually riding about 5 MPH over. If ever stopped for that (never have), while I would appreciate 'a break,' I am by no means entitled to one.

    That's the 'personal responsibility' part!

    Let's be honest with ourselves, ladies and gentlemen: with easy to read highway signs, expensive speedometers and often cruise control, we aren't speeding by accident - we chose to do so. Ergo, if caught, take your medicine without complaining that somehow, you were 'victimized' by a 'trap.'

    Ride smart in WI and the only law enforcement officers you might encounter will be the ones smiling at you with envy that you are enjoying a good ride.

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    A few years back I was crossing WI in my car. Got pulled over, couldn't figure out why, I was bang on the limit. Trooper says he pulled me over because tinted windows were illegal in 'wisscahnsun'.

    What the ????

    I had 35% tint, which is fairly light.

    I just about gave myself whiplash taking a look at his cruiser, confirming the fact that his car was tinted. Very darkly, with 5% limo on all five, plus 30% of the windshield.

    Looked up at him, back at his car, down at my window, back up at him. He gets defensive saying they were exempt, and just wrote me a warning, backing down from his first comment that I would have to have the tint removed before I could continue on my vacation.

    We spent 9 hours on the road crossing that state, never went more than 15 minutes without seeing a cop, and at 5 over we were the fastest thing on the roads. Back in the 90's, they had waaaaaaay too much money in their police budget. Hope that has changed. Or they at least changed their budget so it wasn't tied to their revenue generation skills.

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    My observation has been that more out of state vehicles are pulled over in WI than any other state. Out of state folks don't vote, can not complain to their legislators and most often won't show up in court to contest the ticket. My son-in-law was 5 over in Door County and it cost him over $200. Yes he was speeding, but the size of the fine leads one to believe it is more about revenue generation.

    Illinois drivers in particular seem to be stopped a lot. Maybe we all just speed, maybe it's something else. Either way, watch out at the state line!
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    Water Holes and Speed

    Try Random lake which is < 20 miles NE of West Bend.

    Regarding Speeding, if you plan on riding on 43 South towards Milwaukee keep it under 5 over. There are numerous traps along the way, especially at night.

    If you want some speed, ride out to Idaho. I'll be heading there in late August. There was a blurb on NPR 07-07-2007 regarding the fact that Idaho troopers now have Dodge Chargers that can run at 140 mph. One trooper recently pulled a guy over and told the guy that he was going 120 mph. The guy said that was impossible since he had his cruise set at 100 mph.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRaoulDuke View Post
    Is there a Lake or pool on site at the rally location for us to swim at? If not, anything reasonably nearby? Suspect the heat will border on the intolerable.

    Also a WARNING to out-of-staters: HANDING OUT EXPENSIVE SPEEDING TICKETS HAS BECOME A COTTAGE INDUSTRY IN WISCONSIN. They LOVE out-out-of-staters and are not bashful about increasing your actual speed on a ticket by 10-15 mph to generate even more revenue for their coffers. Don't expect the same courtesy that was extended to the lidless crowd when Harley had their anniversary.

    My 2 Cents,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIBUD View Post
    My observation has been that more out of state vehicles are pulled over in WI than any other state. Out of state folks don't vote, can not complain to their legislators and most often won't show up in court to contest the ticket. My son-in-law was 5 over in Door County and it cost him over $200. Yes he was speeding, but the size of the fine leads one to believe it is more about revenue generation.

    Illinois drivers in particular seem to be stopped a lot. Maybe we all just speed, maybe it's something else. Either way, watch out at the state line!
    I've heard that out of state folks get pulled over more than locals in WI but I wonder how LEOs would actually DO that. Do they sit up the road with their radar/lazer AND a pair of binoculars looking for out-of-state license plates? It doesn't seem realistic to me.

    Speeding tickets are revenue generation across the country and no, it's not fair. But I also expect more enforcement in uber-touristy, pedestrian-crazy places like Door County.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxergrrlie View Post
    I've heard that out of state folks get pulled over more than locals in WI but I wonder how LEOs would actually DO that. Do they sit up the road with their radar/lazer AND a pair of binoculars looking for out-of-state license plates? It doesn't seem realistic to me.
    I think they do sit with their binoculars and what's more, they radio the resturants on the route to get out the more expensive menus.

    But, I do love Wisconsin.
    First state I ever got a ticket where they took Mastercard right in the cruiser. I was on my way in 10 minutes. That's service.
    Once a trooper yelled at me with his loud speaker from the opposite lane on I90/94 "SLOW DOWN!"
    He didn't chase me and I thought that was right neighborly.
    Besides, it's a pretty state. Lots of fond memories. Just "SLOW DOWN!"
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    Maybe it's an anomaly

    But the proponderence of posts saying WI is not a speed trap state seem to be from WI residents??

    Not a good place to be a FIB. If you don't know what a FIB is, ask a Cheesehead.

    I do however want to extoll the roads of WI for motorcycling. For my money the stretch between Monroe WI and LaCrosse WI has some of the finest riding you can find in these parts. There are times you may not see another car for hours on some of those great backroads.

    I look forward to renewing old friendships and initiating new ones in West Bend. See you there.
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