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    Welcome!

    Welcome to the Hexheads forum!

    Don Eilenberger will be your mod in this new forum. Be sure to post early and post often!
    Dave Swider
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    SWEEEEEEET!

    came home from a week on the road to HEXLAND!
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    Hey--COOL!

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    Oh great...

    I knew I was an Oilhead, but am I a hexhead too?? Geez, talk about confusing us poor soles...

    Dave

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    Yes, thanks Dave, this is great.
    Except I have a real bad Rod Stewart song running around in my head!
    Iiif ya think I'm hexy . . . . .

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    A bozo on the bus deilenberger's Avatar
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    I'd also like to welcome Darryl Richmond who has agreed to serve as a co-moderator... thanks much to Darryl!

    Looks like we're off to a good start... lets post early, often and intelligently
    Don Eilenberger http://www.eilenberger.net
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    Re: ?

    Hello;
    I just got an R1200RT and what an upgrade from
    a 1968 Triumph Daytona.
    Question- What is the difference between an
    oil head and a hex-head??
    I thought my R12RT was an oil head but when
    I see pictures posted here it seems hex head covers
    everything.

    Thanks
    Bill

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    SNC1923
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    Hi Bill,

    Welcome to the forum! Thanks for asking one of the few question I'm somewhat capable of answering.

    Strictly speaking, a hex-head is an oil-head. Both the 1100s and 1150s as well as the 1200s are all oil/air cooled motors.

    The 1200s (aka hex-heads) derive their name from the hex shape of the cylinder heads. They are a quantum leap forward in technology. Not only are they larger engines (1170CCs), they boast more horsepower, lower torque, and require far less maintenance. The final drive was reputed to be a lifetime no-oil-change, but BMW is backpeddling on that now. The transmissions have helical gears and are much smoother. They no longer require throttle-body synching, and have automatic chokes.

    This is the depth of my understanding, and I'm sure others, more knowledgeable, will chime in.

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    Re: motor type

    Tom;
    Thanks for the education.
    I didn't know that you don't have to sync the throttle bodies also.

    What a great forum for a little education.
    Looking forward to more.
    Bill

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    Bill,

    Actually - you still sync the throttle bodies - but the idle sync is done by the same stepper motors that control the idle speed. These eliminate the manual fast-idle lever that has been a BMW feature for many years - doing the same thing under computer control.

    Wonderful engines the hexheads..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNC1923 View Post
    Hi Bill,

    Welcome to the forum! The final drive was reputed to be a lifetime no-oil-change, but BMW is backpeddling on that now.

    Well so far as I know, the final drive needs to be changed only at the running in check at 600 miles. The reason being, I'm told, that they are letting the owner/dealer flush the drive instead of having it done at the time of manufacture.
    BMWMotorcycles, fun when they're running...
    My other bike is a BMW.
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    Hi Tom!

    I have a question about your 6-22 post.

    You state the 1200 has "lower torque".

    I have an 1100 and a 1200 and it sure feels like the 1200 has more torque to me?

    Could you explain that, please?

    Thanks,

    Downhill Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhillhunter View Post
    Hi Tom!

    I have a question about your 6-22 post.

    You state the 1200 has "lower torque".

    I have an 1100 and a 1200 and it sure feels like the 1200 has more torque to me?

    Could you explain that, please?

    Thanks,

    Downhill Hunter
    My explanation would be differing understanding of words like "lower." Do I want my wife to turn the air conditioning up or down?

    I agree with you: it has more torque, not less. I used the word "lower" to try to describe that and didn't make myself clear. Thanks for clarifying.

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    New to this BMW thing, used to ride rice rockets after I came back from overseas.
    This and other forums have already got me spending on all kindsa bling. Thanks.
    Some buds and I are gonna try a week trip in Nov. Brrr...I got thermals on order.
    Should be fun though, gonna make like birds and head south for the winter.
    Since I'm sorta retired, maybe I'll just nest down there.
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    From ZRX to LT to RT in one season

    What a trip... I sold my beloved ZRX so that my wife and I could do some traveling in more comfort. A friend owned an LT and raved about it, so off to the dealer we went. Looked at the new 09 RT and decided it was a little too expensive for us at the time. The dealer showed us a 04 LT for a very reasonable price (should have known better). We scooped it up in anticipation of a great riding season and off we went.

    After about two months of riding and complaining about a number of driveability issues the dealer reluctantly agreed to take it in for service. A month and a half later we start demanding our money returned... they didn't like this idea and swore up and down that they would fix the LT or find us a replacement. Due to the "aggressive pricing" of the LT originally they were completely unable to find us another one in the same price range. Calls and letters to BMW group Canada, threats of legal action, and daily phone calls finally convinced them to offer us a used RT at what they called "cost". We came to an agreement on the RT and they gave up trying to fix the LT and sold it to a wholesaler at auction.

    So here we are and in some ways happier, not for the experience but for the final outcome.
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