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    Unhappy I think I made a mistake

    I need some perspective...

    I just bought a 07 650GS and its light and easy to handle but can I make it more highway friendly? Can I run 80-90 mph for a few hours? After all, I need to drive there to go off-road...plus I commute to work and 1/2 the miles on expressway.

    Larger windshield and run it at 6k/rpm for 600 miles a day? I just sold my RT and I think that I am having withdrawals but I did not like how top heavy it was and that I could not go off-road at all.

    On the plus side - its superfun on the streets

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    You sold your RT?! Dude what happened to our ride?
    S'ok I just picked up a F800ST so we can still get 'er done.

    Sheesh!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncutshirt View Post
    I need some perspective...

    I just bought a 07 650GS and its light and easy to handle but can I make it more highway friendly? Can I run 80-90 mph for a few hours? After all, I need to drive there to go off-road...plus I commute to work and 1/2 the miles on expressway.

    Larger windshield and run it at 6k/rpm for 600 miles a day? I just sold my RT and I think that I am having withdrawals but I did not like how top heavy it was and that I could not go off-road at all.

    On the plus side - its superfun on the streets
    If you had a RT, and wanted to go off-road, why didn't you swap the RT for a R-GS?

    Seems if weight was a consideration, the lower weight of the GS over the RT would help you out. You'd have essentially the same engine, so maintainence and repair would be virtually identical to the RT...

    Just curious as to your thought process - at some point I'll trade my K75S in for a RT, a RT-P, or a R-GS. Still trying to make up my mind on that, but I simply haven't considered one of the new F/G BMWs as an option at all. What went into your decision matrix when you decided to replace the RT with a 650GS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncutshirt View Post
    I need some perspective...

    I just bought a 07 650GS and its light and easy to handle but can I make it more highway friendly? Can I run 80-90 mph for a few hours? After all, I need to drive there to go off-road...plus I commute to work and 1/2 the miles on expressway.

    Larger windshield and run it at 6k/rpm for 600 miles a day? I just sold my RT and I think that I am having withdrawals but I did not like how top heavy it was and that I could not go off-road at all.

    On the plus side - its superfun on the streets
    You just need to get used to riding a light, nimble bike. (ie NOT a big horking pig) Stop over to www.650.com and search "1000 mile rides." The biggest limitation to riding an F650 is you*, not the bike.


    *Proverbial "you," not the personal one.

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    Dvandkq - why are you not considering the F models at all.

    The 800ST seems to be a logical progression from the 75, 30 more horsepower, nearly double the fuel efficiency, ability to tour and turn with equal ease and overall a major modernization of the 75.

    Unless you are going to RT for straight two-up touring, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    If you had a RT, and wanted to go off-road, why didn't you swap the RT for a R-GS?

    Seems if weight was a consideration, the lower weight of the GS over the RT would help you out. You'd have essentially the same engine, so maintainence and repair would be virtually identical to the RT...

    Just curious as to your thought process - at some point I'll trade my K75S in for a RT, a RT-P, or a R-GS. Still trying to make up my mind on that, but I simply haven't considered one of the new F/G BMWs as an option at all. What went into your decision matrix when you decided to replace the RT with a 650GS?
    The R-GS is still a massive beast of a bike, well suited to fire roads, but not so good for true off-road riding unless 1. you're a great rider (e.g. Jimmy Lewis) or 2. you've got a deep wallet and don't mind repairing the broken bits or 3. you're a BIG big boy. It can be done. I've done it. It is fun. But it's not the simple fun that riding on a more dirt focused bike is. 520+ lbs doesn't make for a dirt bike. Every time you have to pick it up, you can't help but remember that.

    Having said that, and wanting a more off-pavement worthy do everything bike myself, I'm waiting for the F800GS. The F650GS has never pressed my happy button. I like something with some on road hooligan capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlearl476 View Post
    You just need to get used to riding a light, nimble bike. (ie NOT a big horking pig) Stop over to www.650.com and search "1000 mile rides." The biggest limitation to riding an F650 is you*, not the bike.


    *Proverbial "you," not the personal one.
    Almost always the case with any bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knary View Post

    Having said that, and wanting a more off-pavement worthy do everything bike myself, I'm waiting for the F800GS. The F650GS has never pressed my happy button. I like something with some on road hooligan capabilities.
    ditto that!

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    Mistake? You gotta be kidding!
    Commuting...Would it be easier on a RT? Yaaah, -But.

    I do over 80 miles a day commuting.
    Last year I put almost 11K miles of commuting miles on this bike.

    *1/2 of that distance is highway. Rush hour, 75+MPH or get run over -highway riding.
    *30 Miles is early morning back country roads, twisting, scenic - master the corners - type of riding.
    *10 miles are in city stop and go traffic, keeping an eye on the "makeup artist" behind me, and the "CrackBerry lover" to the side of me - type of riding...

    I average 67 MPG. Let me type that again...I average 67 MPG...I love the ring to that..."Need I say more when gas is now over $3/ gal?"
    "Sometimes" I wish i had more scoot. Not usually.
    I enjoy seeing a trail and off I go. Up here, like many mountainous areas, there are some great off road sights to be seen via the bike...
    RTW "proven" capabilities. Research how many travel the world on this bike!

    This is the Swiss Army Knife of motorcycles.

    Its not THE tool for any one ride - but it covers just about all of 'em well enough.

    Now If and When the 800GS comes out...And its not screwy ugly, poorly designed, a real match to the legendary 80GS...I may be really tempted...Maybe, $$ is going to be a big factor in that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncutshirt View Post
    I need some perspective...

    I just bought a 07 650GS and its light and easy to handle but can I make it more highway friendly? Can I run 80-90 mph for a few hours? After all, I need to drive there to go off-road...plus I commute to work and 1/2 the miles on expressway.

    Larger windshield and run it at 6k/rpm for 600 miles a day? I just sold my RT and I think that I am having withdrawals but I did not like how top heavy it was and that I could not go off-road at all.

    On the plus side - its superfun on the streets

    On the original questions here. (And Flash412 hasn't raised his head yet. But Sarah gave a prop for F650.com - Hehehe)

    Yes, you can run your little 650 motor at 6000-7000 RPM all day, not just a few hours, but all day.

    If you are spending more time on the highway and less on the dirt paths that connect the highways you can change the grearing to lower the RPM but you lose some off-the-road nimbleness.

    There are a number of after-market screens available to make it more comfortable. Seems the Cee-Bailey one is up to the task better than others. (But, I'm happy with the stock Dakar screen on mine upto and over 70.)

    Don't worry about letting this motor run high-strung, it likes it - countless others have experienced thousands of happy miles getting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncutshirt View Post
    I need some perspective...

    I just bought a 07 650GS and its light and easy to handle but can I make it more highway friendly? Can I run 80-90 mph for a few hours? After all, I need to drive there to go off-road...plus I commute to work and 1/2 the miles on expressway.
    Yes - you can run them that fast but you'll get tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncutshirt View Post
    .... just sold my RT and I think that I am having withdrawals but I did not like how top heavy it was and that I could not go off-road at all......
    My '84 RT goes off-road all the time (on purpose).
    Yours must have been a newer one.

    I think this is one of those where you have to decide what you want.
    I solved a similar problem of liking certain features of bikes I have bought by keeping them. That probably explains why I don't have any new ones. I realize that won't work for everybody.
    19 BMWMOA Nationals under my belt, and I have no idea what I am doing.

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    I was thinking lighter is easier and I wanted to go anywhere on the bike. Advrider and F650.com had me hooked with what I could do. See Striking Viking in the latest Owners News. Plus - I have this vision of doing an Iceland tour next year or so and they use 650s.

    I was leaning toward the 1200GS but when I said 16K to my wife... well - I guess we are buying a new house and all...

    The good thing is that it really gives me confidence in my riding - the RT was so big that I was always a little unsure of my ablities. Now that I know - I want my RT! She left today but went to a good home.

    All good things in time and we learn from my mistakes - the 650 will do what I bought it for - Iceland baby! And - I am looking at the K1200R suited for touring or the GT next year.

    - curt

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    My thinking

    I was thinking lighter is easier and I wanted to go anywhere on the bike. Advrider and F650.com had me hooked with what I could do. See Striking Viking in the latest Owners News. Plus - I have this vision of doing an Iceland tour next year or so and they use 650s.

    I was leaning toward the 1200GS but when I said 16K to my wife... well - I guess we are buying a new house and all...

    The good thing is that it really gives me confidence in my riding - the RT was so big that I was always a little unsure of my ablities. Now that I know - I want my RT! She left today but went to a good home.

    All good things in time and we learn from my mistakes - the 650 will do what I bought it for - Iceland baby! And - I am looking at the K1200R suited for touring or the GT next year.

    - curt

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