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    Garmin 60Cx

    Another vote for the 60Cx. With a 1gb memory card it will hold the maps for all of North America, but is still the best handheld around. For the proposed budget of $600 you can get the software and probably a Ram mount as well.
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    Garmin will be releasing the zumo 450, which is a 550 without the mp3 player or XM radio capability. When it is released in a month or two, wait and the price should drop, hopefully to around $600 if the discount price of the 550 is any indication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalRider View Post
    An incredibly versatile little unit, isn't it? A feature packed unit! I'd buy it again considering all the units that have come out since.



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    Zumo 550

    Thanks for all the great information and guidence. I spoke with my other half and we decided on the 550. Just like when I sold cars long ago my boss would tell me people always spend more then they planned!

    I have a handheld gps I carried in IRAQ and it worked great and it still does for hiking and back up. My idea is that the zumo should not be outdated any time soon. We also like the idea of the combined fetures like phone and mp3 and xm . Now if we could just patch in a intercom system it would be perfect.

    will we have to use bluetooth headphones? if so what kind?
    SGTBoring

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    YOU'VE been reading MY posts
    Not likely as you're a newbie here. Besides, it was one of my purchasing decsisions when the unit just came out...not to get the CSx over the Cx for reasons stated. But you know the average consumer; the more bells and whsitles...hey, it must be better, right?

    I'm amazed how the average consumer believes what the manufacturers tell them. The pricey BMW gel cell charger for instance. Do people not question anything or are they that gullible? The first thing I asked when gel cell BMWs first appeared: how do the voltage regulators differ from FLA to gel cell equipped models? The answer was, they didn't, so why the need for a $pecial charger?

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    Zumo 550 questions

    I have some questions about the Zumo 550 with the MP3 player and XM radio. It seems that one must spend an additional $250 for an antenna plus the monthly fee ($15 or thereabout) for the XM subscription for that feature to work. Is this correct?

    Does one need to use some special software (or other proprietary program / format) to put mp3 music onto an SD card for the music to be playable?

    If one wishes to listen to either the radio or mp3 player, can one use a 3.5 mm plug such as comes with most earbud headphones? Or is it necessary to use one of the bluetooth type helmets (or some other wireless configuration)?

    Can the maps be updated in the unit?

    I have a DeLorme GPS that I use with my laptop computer in a car. I don't care for the helpful voice feature. Does the Zume 550 unit have a voice feature that will interrupt the music / radio constantly with messages? And most importantly, can one turn off the voice without affecting the music / radio?

    And as for being waterproof - is there positive experience with this feature? I.e., is the device really waterproof? I can never go on a multi-day ride without some riding in rain. The unit greatly loses its value if it has to be put away when it begins to rain.

    If one uses a RAM mount (or similar), is it relatively quick and easy to detach the Zumo unit from the bike? And is it easy to reconnect and re-mount the unit to get going again?

    Thanks!

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    With a bit more research I've found a previous thread, started by Boxergrllie, that has a lot of useful info on the Zumo 550. That thread is here:
    http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/newreply...ote=1&p=193365

    There is a product compare feature on the Garmin website. I looked at the 2730 and Zumo 550. See:
    http://www.garmin.com/automotive/compare.jsp

    And more info on the Zumo is at:
    http://www.garmin.com/products/zumo/

    Still it is a lot of money....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsmoto View Post
    I have some questions about the Zumo 550 with the MP3 player and XM radio. It seems that one must spend an additional $250 for an antenna plus the monthly fee ($15 or thereabout) for the XM subscription for that feature to work. Is this correct?

    True.

    Does one need to use some special software (or other proprietary program / format) to put mp3 music onto an SD card for the music to be playable?

    No. Just copy to the disk like it is another drive.

    If one wishes to listen to either the radio or mp3 player, can one use a 3.5 mm plug such as comes with most earbud headphones? Or is it necessary to use one of the bluetooth type helmets (or some other wireless configuration)?

    Yes, you can use headphones if you like.

    Can the maps be updated in the unit?

    Yes
    I have a DeLorme GPS that I use with my laptop computer in a car. I don't care for the helpful voice feature. Does the Zume 550 unit have a voice feature that will interrupt the music / radio constantly with messages? And most importantly, can one turn off the voice without affecting the music / radio?

    Yes, you can turn off the voice feature

    And as for being waterproof - is there positive experience with this feature? I.e., is the device really waterproof? I can never go on a multi-day ride without some riding in rain. The unit greatly loses its value if it has to be put away when it begins to rain.

    I have used mine in the rain for several days now. They claim it can be submerged for thirty minutes.

    If one uses a RAM mount (or similar), is it relatively quick and easy to detach the Zumo unit from the bike? And is it easy to reconnect and re-mount the unit to get going again?

    A snap.

    Thanks!
    Anytime.

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    If you want to know every single thing about zumo go here http://razorbiker.com/zumo/. This is a Zumo Forum with all the info you would ever need to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    +1 on the Garmin 60Cx. You don't need the 60CSx - the altimeter is stupid when GPS calculates your altitude for you anyways - and much more accurately than a barometric altimeter.

    The 60Cx has lots of internal flash memory and a slot for SD cards, so memory is almost unlimited. You can plan trips and routes on your computer and upload routes and the appropriate maps to your GPS device. It works on your bike, in your car, on the strap of your backpack, on the deck of your kayak, on the bridge of your yacht, on the handlebars of your bicycle - everywhere.

    You can pick one up for around $400.
    what he said!
    I've got one and have it on two motorcycles, two cars, 3 bikes, and hiking. The batteries are changeable and last more than a day.

    Tourance has a mount for a GS Adventure that powers it off the bike.
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    Just bought the 60csx

    so far I love it, versitile and does everything I need it to do.

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    This is from a riding friend's post on another list, which was an answer to a novice's question: "Which GPS do I buy?" It is very well written.

    I would add that Garmin is factory refurbishing units with full warranty and standard accessories for a lot less. Look for retailers through Froogle or eBay and add "refurbished" to your search inquiry.

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    Probably the most important thing to do is as much research as your brain
    can handle, some small details are where the happiness is. Things I find
    important others could care less about, the real problem as a first time
    buyer is you don't even know what you want yet, no matter how much research
    you do. Best bet I think is to find like minded riders, and see who LOVES
    them, and who thinks they are ok. I'm a technogeek for sure, I don't mind
    spending time making the gadget do what I want it to, once you learn how to
    work with it, it becomes easier, and does what you want. Fight it, and
    you'll get no where and sell it on ebay.

    There are a number of on line purchase locations like www.gpscity.com
    www.gpsdiscount.com www.gpsnow.com and they go on and on. Some of them have
    some very nice shopping tools in the form of comparison charts, as does
    Garmin. Look at the different units that people on bikes have talked about,
    and compare them, you'll be surprised at the differences between even
    identical looking units. My old GPS V looks identical to Chris's GPS III+,
    but they are worlds apart. My 276C and my fathers 176C look identical, but
    share far less than even I thought (even the power cord and battery are
    different).

    There's no substitute for hands on. Anyone who will let you take a hands on
    look at a GPS is worth the time to see how it looks, how it feels, search
    the menus and see what's in there. When I'm considering a unit, I download
    the user manual from www.garmin.com and browse it, not to memorize it, but
    to catch those minor features, or lack there of, that matter to me. You
    don't have to remember how to do stuff, only that it can be done. Seeing
    where is there is easy, catching what's missing is harder, take your time.

    Features I think you'd NEED:
    + Auto routing. It's on most of them now, but some are still without, so
    make sure it's included.
    + Uploadable routes. This is a must, or you can't create your route on a PC
    and upload it. Look for how many routes the unit will hold, if it's one,
    it's not what you want.
    + Color display, as large as your eyes want. Bigger is usually easier to
    read, you can help small displays by putting them up high in front of your
    eyes. I have my gps mirror level, making it easy to read quickly.
    + Battery power - some units, specifically the 26xx, 27xx, and 28xx are 12v
    only and do not operate without being plugged in. Don't depend on battery
    power, but when you blow the fuse on the unit and don't have a spare, you'll
    be VERY glad you have limited use via a power cell.
    + Memory, this one is tough because different map sets require different
    amount of space, but generally more is better. Preloaded maps are ok, but
    as has been reported it slows the Quest 2 calculation time, an annoyance,
    but not a deal breaker. Loading your own maps also makes updating maps
    easier, since you just spend the dough and load in new maps. Quest 1 has
    enough memory for a week of travel if you're staying out of the metro areas.
    Units with data cards have effectively unlimited map memory, assuming you
    have unlimited funds to purchase data cards. Garmin proprietary data cards
    are very pricey, where after market data cards are cheap.

    Some nice features to have....
    I don't see the need for the XM radio, Bluetooth, and such, but some people
    do like it. Consider how you'll use it off the bike, and maybe you'll be
    getting some of the extras. It's easy to spend $500 on a unit, and $1,000
    isn't out of the question.
    + I like customizable fields, so you can put the data you want (ETA,
    distance to destination, elevation, speed, etc) on the screen where you want
    it. Some units like the Quest let you change what you see, where others
    don't. Many of the newer units designed for soccer moms have "simplified"
    interfaces, which are well set up, but not customizable, so you are stuck
    with what they have. For instance, my wife's Street Pilot c320 has no where
    to find your actually coordinates or elevation.

    Garmin lists a group of units for motorcycle use, it's a very good starting
    point.

    Zumo 450
    Zumo 500 (Europe maps I think)
    Zumo 550
    Street Pilot 2720
    Street Pilot 2820
    Quest
    Quest 2
    GPSMAP 276C
    GPSMAP 376C
    GPSMAP 378C
    GPSMAP 478C

    I would look hardest at the Zumos (motorcycle specific), the Quests (very
    versatile and cost effective), or the GPSMAP line (large bright screen)

    And you'll find some older units available that might work too, like the
    2610, or other 26xx or 27xx units. Garmin turns the units over in just a
    few years these days, and some of the outdated models can be a bargain, not
    a bad idea for a first unit, so you buy on the cheap for the first one, and
    figure out what you want before you drop the bigger money on a new one in a
    few years. Why spend $750 on a new Zumo only to discover you never use it
    while riding anyway.

    If by chance you only want a moving map, then auto routing isn't required,
    and you can keep it real cheap. It becomes a record keeper (tracks of your
    journey), and a map that you're always at the center of. My fathers 176C is
    a good example of a non routing unit with a big screen. If you don't want
    the GPS to tell you which way to go (except for "as the crow flies"
    pointers) then you have other options, but honestly, the routing is what
    makes it magic.

    Some of my favorite advantages is that after you create a route on the PC
    and upload it, you can follow it without too much worry, and the gps will
    know how much farther to your destination, how long it should take you
    (assuming no breaks or traffic), which allows you to know how much time
    you're playing with. I'm sure we've all been on trips, with a mid point
    destination, and at mid day, you had no idea you were 4 hours behind in your
    estimated arrival time, pulling in at midnight. The preplanned route will
    have a very good estimate of travel time and miles, allowing you to plan
    realistically. It also projects your arrival time from the moment you leave
    the door, allow for gas stops, meals, and some breaks, and it gives you a
    very good idea if you'll be pulling in at 5 pm, or 11 pm, allowing you to
    manage your time wisely, and make that ferry crossing.

    Of course the GPS is a tool, not a end all to riding. Over time, you learn
    to ignore certain things, wonder why other things didn't happen, and use it
    when the mood or need suits, and not let it rule your ride, but it's a
    fantastic tool.

    How about you tell us what you think you want it to do for you, and we can
    help point you to a few units. Trying to sift through them all WILL make
    your head hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudbug View Post
    Garmin will be releasing the zumo 450, which is a 550 without the mp3 player or XM radio capability. When it is released in a month or two, wait and the price should drop, hopefully to around $600 if the discount price of the 550 is any indication.
    The 450 does have a mp3 player. What it doesn't have is bluetooth, XM or text to speech. I bought my 550 for $680 with free shipping from PCNation a couple of weeks ago and am pretty happy with it. The SirF chip really picks up sats fast!

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    The 60cx is around $325 on Amazon right now.

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    The 2720 is $374 at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...796080-3162205

    Not a bad price for an $800 unit. I just picked on up to supplement/replace my GPSMap 60C, which is a fine unit, but it does not hold the whole map set for North America at one time and has no card slot (which is ok for anything but really long trips) and does not have any spoken directions audio, so you have to keep looking down at the unit if you are on a route with many turns. Not as much of a problem in a car, but not so great on a bike.
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