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    Question Seeking RADAR Detector Advice

    I want to use a radar detector on my R1150 R with a "hard wire" accessory cord so I could also use the device in my car with the cigarette lighter cord provided with most detectors. My questions:

    With which radar detectors does the Forum have positive experience?

    Which are considered to be the best for bikes?

    How would you mount one on a R1150R with a Parabellum fairing/windshield?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRD
    I want to use a radar detector on my R1150 R with a "hard wire" accessory cord so I could also use the device in my car with the cigarette lighter cord provided with most detectors. My questions:

    With which radar detectors does the Forum have positive experience?

    Which are considered to be the best for bikes?

    How would you mount one on a R1150R with a Parabellum fairing/windshield?
    Valentine One. http://www.valentine1.com/ There are several excellent detectors, some of which in some car magazine tests have slightly greater detection range, but IMHO there isn't any product which gives you the quality of information of the V1. Past a certain point, additional detection range is academic, but knowing the number and direction of potential threats helps you make better decisions. Only the V1 has true front and rear detection, and only the V1 tells you how many sources are being detected, their direction (front/sides/rear) and evaluates which one it thinks is the true threat. I know mine has saved me it's price many times over in fines, and helped me avoid unpleasant road-side conversations with local law enforcement.
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    Joe:

    I have the Escort 8500 X50 on my R 1150 RS, and it's an excellent unit. I've picked up Ka band at 7 kilometres, and it's also very well filtered. It is easily moved from bike to car. I had my specialist install the power supply.Before I bought it, I spent a number of hours reviewing the internet radar detector testing sites, (of which some are not independent), but there seems to be a consensus that the Valentine, the Escort, and it's equivalent Bel unit (65?) are the ones to get. If you google radar detector testing you'll pull up lots of sites.

    Rinty

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    I have heard great things about the Valentine 1 as well.

    The previous owner of my GS had it hardwired in amongst other things. I removed it since I couldn't afford a unit at the time. He had kept the actual unit. Down the road I plan to get one and reinstall on my bike.

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    Valentine 1 for sure. Accept no substitutes. You can only by it from their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTRandy
    Valentine 1 for sure. Accept no substitutes. You can only by it from their website.
    Don't forget to ask for the OPTIONAL earphone connection.
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    The Valentine V1 seems to be the detector of choice among responders to this thread, with a positive reply or two regarding the Escort 8500 x50. The V1, Escort 8500 x50, and Bel rx65 are the highest rated units in all the research I've compared. Has anyone had experience with the Bel rx65 on a car or bike?

    Also, I'm wondering why knowing the direction of a radar threat is important to me as a rider. The Escort and Bel units are rated nearly as sensitive as the Valentine in rear detection. When I hear/see an alert signal, I'm going to slow down regardless of the direction indicated.

    And what about laser threats? All three promise some warning, but are any of them really effective in detecting laser/lidar?

    Lastly, on mounting systems (in my case, for an R1150R with a Parabellum fairing, but would apply to all). I'm interested in the pros and cons of windshield vs. shelf/arm type brackets as sold by CycleGadgets and other vendors. What is the Forum's experience here?
    Joe DeLuca
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRD
    Also, I'm wondering why knowing the direction of a radar threat is important to me as a rider. The Escort and Bel units are rated nearly as sensitive as the Valentine in rear detection. When I hear/see an alert signal, I'm going to slow down regardless of the direction indicated.
    Many times I've pulled out onto a freeway and started picking up a hot signal from *behind* me. So I knew where to look for the threat and that I shouldn't grab a handful to move ahead through traffic. When I come into a strange town and start getting a hit, I can see it from the front, now the sides, now behind me and from that information know that it's stationary, I've passed it, and if I didn't see a cop it must be something at the mall I passed.

    With all other detectors you only know the level strength - not the direction. Having used the V1 for three years, I would gladly trade a bit of detection range for direction information - it's far more useful, especially since all top detectors find a signal way beyond the danger zone.

    And what about laser threats? All three promise some warning, but are any of them really effective in detecting laser/lidar?
    Laser must be shot from a stationary ambush position. Since the beam is so tightly focused, odds are good you won't get any early warning, but I have on some occasions. Laser has to reflect off of something: paint, chrome, reflective license plate (or stickers on the back), or headlight reflector. Bikes are harder to hit and many have less reflective area. I've been shot straight on riding my K1200RS and the cop didn't get a good read (trust me - I would have known if he did ). So, bottom line is laser detection is of some use, but very little IMHO compaired to radar.
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    I use an Escort 8500 X-50 with a heads-up HARD display in my helmet. I also move this unit back and forth from my bike to my BWW car and Ford pick-up. So far, no complaints and no performance awards. Obviously, with instant-on radar you need to have some traffic out in front of you - but the 8500 regularly picks up signals at 5+ miles.

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    Would you recommend the HARD display? I get so much wind noise with my helmet that I can't hear the detector warning through Mini Blaster helmet speakers. I've also tried Etymotics, but they hurt my ears.

    Rinty

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