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    Question Seeking RADAR Detector Advice

    I want to use a radar detector on my R1150 R with a "hard wire" accessory cord so I could also use the device in my car with the cigarette lighter cord provided with most detectors. My questions:

    With which radar detectors does the Forum have positive experience?

    Which are considered to be the best for bikes?

    How would you mount one on a R1150R with a Parabellum fairing/windshield?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRD
    I want to use a radar detector on my R1150 R with a "hard wire" accessory cord so I could also use the device in my car with the cigarette lighter cord provided with most detectors. My questions:

    With which radar detectors does the Forum have positive experience?

    Which are considered to be the best for bikes?

    How would you mount one on a R1150R with a Parabellum fairing/windshield?
    Valentine One. http://www.valentine1.com/ There are several excellent detectors, some of which in some car magazine tests have slightly greater detection range, but IMHO there isn't any product which gives you the quality of information of the V1. Past a certain point, additional detection range is academic, but knowing the number and direction of potential threats helps you make better decisions. Only the V1 has true front and rear detection, and only the V1 tells you how many sources are being detected, their direction (front/sides/rear) and evaluates which one it thinks is the true threat. I know mine has saved me it's price many times over in fines, and helped me avoid unpleasant road-side conversations with local law enforcement.
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    Joe:

    I have the Escort 8500 X50 on my R 1150 RS, and it's an excellent unit. I've picked up Ka band at 7 kilometres, and it's also very well filtered. It is easily moved from bike to car. I had my specialist install the power supply.Before I bought it, I spent a number of hours reviewing the internet radar detector testing sites, (of which some are not independent), but there seems to be a consensus that the Valentine, the Escort, and it's equivalent Bel unit (65?) are the ones to get. If you google radar detector testing you'll pull up lots of sites.

    Rinty

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    I have heard great things about the Valentine 1 as well.

    The previous owner of my GS had it hardwired in amongst other things. I removed it since I couldn't afford a unit at the time. He had kept the actual unit. Down the road I plan to get one and reinstall on my bike.

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    Valentine 1 for sure. Accept no substitutes. You can only by it from their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTRandy
    Valentine 1 for sure. Accept no substitutes. You can only by it from their website.
    Don't forget to ask for the OPTIONAL earphone connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris
    Don't forget to ask for the OPTIONAL earphone connection.

    Excellent point. No detector will do you any good if it can't get your attention. I use the audio adapter for the V1 and custom molded earplugs from EAR, but another option which looks good to me is the H.A.R.D. in-helmet LED system. There would be times it would be much easier to use than wired earphones.

    http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products....asp?item=HARD
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    Oil, tires and radar dectors evoke all sort of responses.

    Of course everyone will tell you the unit they use is the best and I am no different.

    Beware of internet websites offering "shoot outs" and "side by side" comparisons, most of them are linked to either stores or independent testers who are miffed because unlike everyone else Valentine does not send free units for evaluation and they only sell direct.

    The latest Cincinatti Microwave (escort, passport etc) equal or exceed the Valentine in range and various other tests.

    What the V1 offers is the ability for you to know what, where and how many.

    In today's enviornment having a box that lights up and goes beep when it detects a radar signal is a small part in a total ticket defense system. One needs to be aware of their situation and adjust accordingly. Out on the open interstate and come up on the only billboard in miles? Well if Mr. Smokey is behind the billboard with instant on the only thing the detector will do is give you a moment to prepare for your pending roadside chat so if you were going wicked fast perhaps it would be a good idea to roll off near the billboard.

    What the V1 offers is enough information for you to decide what the chances are the noise and lights from the little box really mean. Is there radar coming up from behind sampling traffic? Is the radar stationary and I missed (never saw) it? These are things you can learn from the display of the V1 that you don't get from a unit that picks up x band at 7 miles vs 6.9 for the V1 (x band is only used by Barny Fife police departments).

    One other endorsement is from the Iron Butt Rally riders. If you wander the parking lot the night before the IBR you will see that close to 90% of the riders have a radar detector and 9 our of ten riders who have a detector have the V1.

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    What Rob said.....

    Also, remember, if you do get invited to pull over and spend quality time with the local LEO, having a detector screaming and strobing isn't going to involk much symphathy. Having a detector on says, "I am speeding!" I have my V1 hidden in the tankbag and use a HARD with a remote display. I can also turn the tank bag off to stop everything from lighting up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastTNBeemer
    Also, remember, if you do get invited to pull over and spend quality time with the local LEO, having a detector screaming and strobing isn't going to involk much symphathy. Having a detector on says, "I am speeding!" I have my V1 hidden in the tankbag and use a HARD with a remote display. I can also turn the tank bag off to stop everything from lighting up.

    Oh, I think you're being paranoid. Consider that the LEO is a professional. He/she pulls you over and sees you are on a Beemer (and is thinking "Autobahn capable"), you wearing All The Gear (well worn 'stitch, boots, gloves, full-face helmet), a GPS (or two), and the V1. Clearly you are also a professional. As one professional to another he or she should grant professional courtesy and wish you a good day and happy trails!
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    I have an old Cincinnati Microwave Passport radar detector that I got in 1984. I use it all the time when I am on my motorcycles, with an earphone in my helmet. I have only gotten one ticket since I got the detector and it was from laser-radar. Every now and then I buy another one on eBay for about $10-$15. But I am still using my original one.

    I have had several conversations with an LEO by the side of the road over the years. Sometimes we even discussed the radar detector. I once walked on a stop for 96 in a 65 after discussing the detector. (I don't believe his tag was legitimate.)

    YRSTMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregFeeler
    Oh, I think you're being paranoid. Consider that the LEO is a professional. He/she pulls you over and sees you are on a Beemer (and is thinking "Autobahn capable"), you wearing All The Gear (well worn 'stitch, boots, gloves, full-face helmet), a GPS (or two), and the V1. Clearly you are also a professional. As one professional to another he or she should grant professional courtesy and wish you a good day and happy trails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flash412
    I have an old Cincinnati Microwave Passport radar detector that I got in 1984. I use it all the time when I am on my motorcycles, with an earphone in my helmet. I have only gotten one ticket since I got the detector and it was from laser-radar. Every now and then I buy another one on eBay for about $10-$15. But I am still using my original one.

    I have had several conversations with an LEO by the side of the road over the years. Sometimes we even discussed the radar detector. I once walked on a stop for 96 in a 65 after discussing the detector. (I don't believe his tag was legitimate.)

    YRSTMV.
    Jeez, Flash, I didn't know you'd give me $10-15 for that old piece of junk. I just recently found my old (circa mid-1980's) Passport rattling around the bottom of my pickup truck glovebox and tossed it. Were you not aware that it only did X and K band, and that most of the LEO units in use now are instant-on Ka band? (aside from laser of course)

    Hey, I haven't been to the transfer station lately. How much will you give me to go dumpster-diving in my own trash barrel for it? As I recall the battery had not leaked (much) and it actually still worked.
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    I have the best advice. Calibrate your speedometer and simply drive the speed limit. Use the money you save on the detector to buy some gas to go someplace nice on the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soffiler
    Jeez, Flash, I didn't know you'd give me $10-15 for that old piece of junk. I just recently found my old (circa mid-1980's) Passport rattling around the bottom of my pickup truck glovebox and tossed it. Were you not aware that it only did X and K band, and that most of the LEO units in use now are instant-on Ka band? (aside from laser of course).
    My Passport has saved me from instant-on radar more than once. Around where I live (in northern Colorado), some of them still use X-band, but most are K-band and some have instant-on. I don't think I'd give you money for your old one now that I know the local State Patrol has laser radar. My next one will either be a Valentine-One or the latest, greatest from Cincinnati Microwave.

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