re: MOSS tents and shelters
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rob Nye [/i]
Thank you very much for the tips and the link.
...I have been lusting for a Moss tent for years and recently got a great deal on a barely used MSR (MSR bought Moss a few years ago) Phantom.
...Figure packed weight of the tent and the wing to be close to 20 lbs, add in the Kermit chair, MP3 player and speakers, stove, fuel, sleeping bag, thermarest and some cooking bits and I would guess I am close to 35 - 40lbs before any clothes.
Thanks again for the info on the wing.
Rob Nye [/QUOTE]
I've never had a problem with my 19' ParaWing. The fabric is quite a bit thicker than regular tent material and the rain just bounces off - no need to apply any kind of rain goo!
My main tent is an indestructible MOSS 'Eave' which I've been using since 1986. Unfortunately, the 'Eave' is no longer in production. If/when my 'Eave' fails and is retired, my first option is to purchase another fine MOSS tent. Beaucoup bucks - to be sure - but worth every penny during a heavy downpour!
Based on my experiences with the MOSS 'Eave', I made a point of checking out the MOSS 19' ParaWing at a great little camping store in Missoula during the '98 National in Montana. I was a believer after 5 minutes of looking at the 'Wing and purchased my own unit at a Vancouver store several weeks later.
That "packaged weight" of 8 lbs 6 oz, shown on the [URL=http://www.msrcorp.com/tents/parawings.asp] [COLOR=blue]MSR website[/COLOR][/URL] is about right as I put everything on a scale here at the house this morning. I'm not sure where that "packaged size" of 6" X 28" comes from as my six 5-year old 'Wing poles are definitely 34" long.
Your "haulage" stuff is the same as mine except for the MP3 player and speakers. I usually carry a portable shortwave radio (w/AM and FM) to see what I can pick up locally on the airwaves. Interesting reception sometimes! I always carry my stove and utensils for hot coffee and daily soup with fixings. My stove is an original MSR mountain-type and it has served me well for at least 15 years. If you can't be comfortable at your own rally campsite, why bother going in the frist place, eh?
I see your MSR "Phantom" tent on the website. Nice-looking tent! Do you know if MSR (based in Seattle) kept the original MOSS factory in Camden, Maine open or has it been closed and operations moved to the West coast?
Yeah! Why don't you start a new thread on the "haulage" we all carry on our Beemers?? I've seen people show up at a rally with only two panniers and a top box visible on their bikes. An hour later, there's a large tent, a big Thermarest, a sleeping bag, a small table, kitchen utensils, a food box, the omnipresent Kermit chair and a couple of 6-packs all set up and ready to go! Where the hell did all of this 'stuff' come from? The thread should make for some interesting replies and stories.
You're welcome on the 'Wing info.