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mika
11-10-2009, 10:13 AM
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BMW Motorrad Concept 6. Fascination, Supremacy and Riding Comfort with Six Cylinders.

• 10.11.2009
• Press Release

BMW Motorrad Concept 6.
Fascination, Supremacy and Riding Comfort with Six Cylinders.
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Munich. Six-cylinder power units have always had particular appeal, offering not only supreme smoothness and refinement, but also superior power and performance as well as a truly emotional driving – or, in this case, riding – experience. A further point is that the typical sound of a straight-six almost like a turbine is absolutely incomparable, with straight-six power units at BMW having stood for fascinating engine technology in BMW cars for more than seven decades.
Looking at motorcycles, inventive engineers have also tried time and again to offer the enthusiast the thrilling concept of a straight-six power unit. But while a few engines in straight-six configuration have indeed been fitted in motor?¼cycles both lengthwise and crosswise, the straight-six has never really made a genuine breakthrough neither on production models nor in motorcycle racing.

Depending on the way the engine was fitted, six cylinders in-line inevitably made the engine either very long or very wide, creating disadvantages in terms of the running gear, weight distribution, and the centre of gravity. A further drawback was much higher engine weight usually setting off the benefits of extra engine power.

The BMW Concept 6 now proves that a straight-six, benefiting from the most advanced construction and production technology, may offer not only unique prestige, but also a supreme standard of riding dynamics.

The new BMW straight-six will further expand the K-Series in the foreseeable future. The first model to be introduced will be an innovative and luxurious BMW touring machine. Reflecting the tradition of the BMW K-Series, this will of course be a genuine top-of-the-line product.

Highly compact and dynamic six-cylinder.

The starting point for this dynamic introduction of the straight-six in the new Concept 6 from BMW Motorrad is of course the extremely compact form and configuration of the engine. The power unit is approximately 100 mm or 4" slimmer than all former straight-six production engines and only a bit wider than a large-capacity straight-four with conventional technology.

The reduction in width is achieved in particular by the slightly over-square bore: stroke ratio with relatively long stroke and very small gaps between cylinders. To achieve this very compact configuration with minimum width, the electrical ancillaries and their drive components are positioned behind the crankshaft in the open space above the transmission.

High-tech lightweight construction in all areas serves to make the power unit relatively light from the outset, important components in this context being the two hollow-drilled camshafts and the very light connecting rods. The perfect compensation of masses ensured by the configuration and layout of the engine avoids the need for a balance shaft and its drive elements on the new straight-six, which again means lower weight and enhanced running smoothness.

In its layout, the straight-six featured in the Concept 6 follows the well-known straight-four in the K 1300 model series, again coming with cylinders tilted to the front by 55o. This ensures not only a low centre of gravity, but also very good weight balance as an element essential above all under sporting conditions for precise feeling and clear feedback from the front. A further advantage is that the tilted engine provides extra space for the aerodynamically positioned intake manifold directly above the engine and allows ideal configuration of the frame profiles following the flow of power.

The straight-six featured in the BMW Motorrad Concept 6 comes with dry sump lubrication. Apart from greater reliability even under extreme conditions, dry sump technology serves to keep the crankcase particularly low and flat, with the engine being fitted lower down and masses concentrated around the centre of gravity. Doing without an oil sump, the engine may be positioned far lower than on a conventional layout.

The oil reservoir is provided by an oil tank integrated at the rear of the engine block. This avoids the need for a separate tank, again helping to make the entire power unit more compact and reduce weight to a minimum.

Maximum supremacy in running refinement and performance.
Designed and laid out as a straight-six, the engine also opens up new dimensions in motorcycling in terms of supremacy, power reserves, performance and running refinement.

Output of the new six-cylinder will be in approximately the same range as on BMW’s 1.3-litre straight-four power units. Torque, on the other hand, will be right at the top of the range, even in comparison with the largest motorcycle engines, such superior power and muscle coming inter alia from engine capacity of no less than 1.6 litres.

The engine’s power and performance characteristics are equally impressive, offering 130 Nm or 96 lb-ft of torque from just 2,000 rpm and at the same time revving up almost to 9,000 rpm – a dynamic potential quite unparalleled in the tourer segment. This alone qualifies the engine of the Concept 6 as the ideal power unit for a wide range of different motorcycles.

Environmental compatibility and all-round economy re-defined.

The Concept 6 shows the absolute supremacy of its six-cylinder drive system also in ecological and economic terms. Fuel consumption of this six-cylinder naturally equipped with a fully controlled catalytic converter is lower than on a comparable four-cylinder under normal touring conditions. The use of E-gas technology (ride-by-wire) then offers further potentials for enhanced fuel economy and riding dynamics throughout a wide range of different riding modes and conditions. And last but not least in this context, the straight-six power unit featured in the Concept 6 offers long inspection intervals through the use of cup tappets controlling the engine valves.

Dynamic and powerful design in Caf?® Racer style.

Supremacy and dynamism are also borne out clearly by the thrilling design of the Concept 6 and, as usual, this project from BMW Motorrad is more than “just” the attempt to develop a motorcycle of a kind never seen before.

Working on Concept 6, the designers at BMW Motorrad have therefore focused yet again on technical function and quality and, in particular, the emotional element bringing together man and machine. Their rule, quite simply, is that a motorcycle must not only follow the laws of functionality, but also arouse emotion in all its facets. In a nutshell, therefore, the machine must be simply thrilling.
Precisely this is why the design of the Concept 6 focuses in particular on the powerful straight-six engine as the heart of the machine. Conceived as a mixture of classic and modern styling elements in motorcycle construction, the Concept 6, with its long front end and short rear, takes up the design language of the legendary Caf?® Racer. Powerful and muscular, the body elements extend around the power unit finished in a special platinum colour, presenting the engine almost adoringly from every angle.

Smooth and soft lines ensure fully organic integration of the power unit within the machine, while at the same time they create a powerful, exciting and dynamic contrast to the sharply contoured front and rear ends.

The so-called Split Face, a well-known design element of the latest models from BMW Motorrad, extends smoothly from the front of the fairing all along the top of the fuel tank made of carbon-fibre, again confirming the high technological standard of the Concept 6 and forming an exciting contrast to the outer shell in aluminium with its white layers. The division into three sections created by the Split Face is further accentuated at the front by the LED headlight integrated longitudinally in the machine in its rod shape and by the slender LED rear light extending far up into the seat hump.

The powerful and supreme character of the Concept 6 is also underscored by the six-chamber exhaust system complete with sidepipes and the strong presence of the intake ducts again finished in platinum look. Aerodynamic components such as the twin-tipped engine spoiler and the air guide elements derived from the design of the new S 1000 RR Supersports, on the other hand, bridge the gap between functional and clearly visible technology, on the one hand, and the soft and smooth design of other body elements, on the other.

Innovative suspension technology and equipment

The suspension of the BMW Motorrad Concept 6 is built around a light-alloy bridge frame as well as Duolever and lightweight Paralever arms holding and guiding the wheels front and rear. Seventeen-inch HP forged wheels as well as the extra-large brake system with its six-piston fixed callipers emphasise the sporting look of the new machine and its high level of technology.

The outstanding supremacy of the Concept 6 and its drivetrain is also reflected by details such as the instrument panel intentionally kept in minimalist design but nevertheless completely equipped with all the instruments and gauges required. While a digital display performs its usual function of clearly presenting road speed, there is intentionally no rev counter on account of the supreme flow of power at all speeds. So instead of a conventional rev counter, a LED display shows the rider at all times how much torque is readily available whenever required.

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Semper_Fi
11-10-2009, 10:33 AM
That is absolutely STUNNING!!!!

I love the exhausts - doesn't look like the current rage of sticking a trepzoidal trashcan trumpet.

I also liek the push button start as in the cars.

Color scheme is excellent.

Not my style of bike but would not mind having one in the garage

mika
11-10-2009, 10:45 AM
The six is expected to power the new LT. The Concept 6 bike was presented as a concept that showcases the engine. The new LT will most likely appear as a 2011 or 12 model. The bike shown here is a deign concept intended to showcase the engine.


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The rest of the bike may give some idea where BMW may head with future sport models designed for the street. Racing class rules and wind tunnels have shaped the fairings and tail sections of the recent bikes. This concept is not limited in that way thus gives hints of what street based sport bikes could look like.

The styling may give hints of future BMW sport bike styling cues its role as engine show case does not answer on major question for me; what will be the sport bike lineup drive train?

177195
11-10-2009, 12:32 PM
I'm sure if I had one of these,I'd be hearing, " May I see your license and registration,please? :D

rmarkr
11-10-2009, 01:28 PM
Well the BMW designers have not been sitting on their hands. The bike looks great, I would prefer to see all those header pipes.
Dreaming up all those flowery superlatives must take some sweat.
:heart

dwestly
11-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Impressive. Will they finally have a luxo-touring bike that can compete with the Gold Wing? As for price...hold onto your wallet...this will get ugly!

AZ-J
11-10-2009, 03:00 PM
If they release this bike, I just might have to replace my R12S. Until then, NOT!

statdawg
11-10-2009, 03:26 PM
I am now rethinking that if you are going to own one bike it would be the utility bike such as a GS. Now I think I need another bike and me likey. :bow

TomBarnhart
11-10-2009, 04:08 PM
Zero to dead in half the time!!!!

ragtoplvr
11-10-2009, 05:26 PM
I can see the advertising now

With the new BMW Prepaid Legal program you can be assured of the highest quality legal representation as well as 24 hour bond money in the USA and Canada. :D

Sad thing is, it would be worth it.:clap

Rod

bogthebasher
11-10-2009, 05:28 PM
I've always wanted a bike that sounded like the howl of a turbine... wonder if it would totally kill any chance at listening to high fidelity music ever again?

Semper_Fi
11-10-2009, 09:18 PM
If it sounds anything close to my 335xi it is wondrous!!

jeff488
11-10-2009, 10:13 PM
I'm sure if I had one of these,I'd be hearing, " May I see your license and registration,please? :D

I'm thinking they'd have to catch you first.

marchyman
11-10-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm thinking they'd have to catch you first.

It's still not faster than motorola :D

tallyho
11-10-2009, 10:48 PM
And, it's not just the engine. Look at the shots of the final drive. That's very different from the current versions. There are lots of additional photos on the press release site for the numerous developments on this concept bike.

angysdad
11-10-2009, 11:02 PM
Suddenly, I feel VERY old!!!
Nice rocket. I do not think I was ever THAT fast!
:gerg

Semper_Fi
11-10-2009, 11:15 PM
And, it's not just the engine. Look at the shots of the final drive. That's very different from the current versions. There are lots of additional photos on the press release site for the numerous developments on this concept bike.


you got a link??

Bob_M
11-10-2009, 11:18 PM
If an airhead is simple by design then how would you characterize this?

The airhead is quaint by comparison.

macfly
11-11-2009, 03:32 AM
Talking about getting old, if you wait around long enough everything comes back into fashion. Hands up those who remember (or rode) Suzuki's Katana.

Seems not content to go one better than Yamaha's R1 by adding an R and three 0's our German pals are now showing Honda what they got wrong on the CBX, it din't have Suzuki's styling! :nyah:nyah


:bikes

wezul
11-11-2009, 03:36 AM
I am hesitant to respond to this thread as it may be off topic. :P
But honestly, if they could produce this motorcycle tomorrow (all images except the insert for the instrument display look pretty real to me) I would buy it tomorrow.

mika
11-11-2009, 04:02 AM
Gallery link to entire BMW Concept 6 photos (http://m1ka.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-Concept-6/10271798_KVcnV/1/709109733_msusd)

As you wish.

They were not all available when I got up to get this thread started. My humble appologies for being an unworthy servant.

Rpbump
11-11-2009, 04:22 AM
I would love to ride one just for the experience. The new RT however will very likely be my next BMW. Ride Safe :usa :usa :usa

wezul
11-11-2009, 04:27 AM
Gallery link to entire BMW Concept 6 photos (http://m1ka.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-Concept-6/10271798_KVcnV/1/709109733_msusd)

As you wish.

They were not all available when I got up to get this thread started. My humble apologies for being an unworthy servant.

Already captured images I needed for distribution to worthy recipients. :wave

terham
11-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Very, very nice. I love the exhaust. Will saddlebags be an option?:D

jurgen
11-11-2009, 11:07 PM
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I wonder why they went back to the bucket shims? Can you imagine pulling the camshaft to adjust the valves? It's a chore on the brick engine already.

mika
11-12-2009, 02:42 AM
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MAYLETT
11-12-2009, 06:21 AM
I like the looks, but it's a further departure from the German Bauhaus philosophy of form following function. Or maybe it's just an extension of BMW Motorrad's recent designs that have already headed well down that road, which, by the way, I'm not implying as necessarily being a bad thing. Despite it looking like a naked piece of industrial machinery, there's lots of largely decorative, almost gimmicky elements that only look functional. Then again, it's a concept bike that hasn't fully gone through the rigors the engineers would throw at it.

I like the nifty vertical slit for a headlight, and the tail pipes are cool, but they don't look all that optimized for efficiently directing the flow of exhaust as it leaves the bike. I sure wouldn't be opposed to owning something like this, though.

macfly
11-12-2009, 06:53 AM
The exhausts are the only bad part of the bike visually, they would fill with rain water, or dog's pee, whatever, but with some cooler better pipes this thing would be a runaway sales success despite, or maybe because of its heavy Suzuki heritage.

mika
11-12-2009, 02:01 PM
Who rides concept bikes in the rain? As for the dog, well never mind.

What hit me when I looked at the pipes was man my boots are going to be toasty.


For comparison, since the Katana was brought up, here are a couple views of the original

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and a recent six cylinder concept Katana update Suzuki showed at Tokyo a couple years ago.

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lostandwandering
11-12-2009, 03:08 PM
I wonder if there is the possibility for half that engine, maybe a new version of the K75, say a K95?

GILLY
11-13-2009, 12:40 AM
I've always wanted a bike that sounded like the howl of a turbine... wonder if it would totally kill any chance at listening to high fidelity music ever again?

I don't see a wedge K bike in your fleet, which would satisfy that craving.


And, it's not just the engine. Look at the shots of the final drive. That's very different from the current versions. There are lots of additional photos on the press release site for the numerous developments on this concept bike.

Looks like the one on the K1200/1300GT to me...


I wonder if there is the possibility for half that engine, maybe a new version of the K75, say a K95?


Heh heh heh, err yeah I waited for that train to pull in to the station for a lonnnng time, probably TOO long.....

Gilly

Semper_Fi
11-13-2009, 01:39 AM
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What i noticed from this video was the extremely long swiongarm.

Bike still looks awesome but the swing arm length looks more at home on the dragstrip - still want one in the garage though!!

osbornk
11-13-2009, 01:44 AM
I wonder if there is the possibility for half that engine, maybe a new version of the K75, say a K95?

It won't happen for the same reason the K75 died. The cost of production was almost the same as the big bike but the retail price had to be considerably lower for sales.

PGlaves
11-13-2009, 02:24 AM
It won't happen for the same reason the K75 died. The cost of production was almost the same as the big bike but the retail price had to be considerably lower for sales.

Don't be quite so sure. Once they have allocated the development costs to the 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder bikes (some commonality in parts with the K1300 line) they can allocate only minimal R&D costs and then production costs to the smaller bike.

That is what they did with the K100, K75, K1100 line and it worked for 10 years until the R&D costs were fully amortized, by which time the minor production cost differences took over and no more K75. But they had a good 10 year run and could again if they so chose.

But, I've spent two decades trying to outguess BMW and haven't often been right about their choices.

cjack
11-13-2009, 03:08 AM
But, I've spent two decades trying to outguess BMW and haven't often been right about their choices.

Almost 4 decades for me and no joy...

mika
11-13-2009, 03:46 AM
Well if we keep guessing eventually we will be right, maybe.

I am curious what they will do with the six beyond the LT. Way to much development and effort have gone into this just to have it be in the LT only. Could the K series end up with it? That said I don't expect them to cut it in half to make a K75 three.

The S1000RR engine could have its internal dimensions modified without to much trouble and give a 4cyl sport model in the 600 to 750cc range with a chain drive. I wouldn't expect that until 2012 at the soonest.

To the swing arm length you have to keep in mind this is a long wheel base LT drive train in a cafe racer concept skin. I don't have photo handy but there are some great Goldwing to cafe racer conversions out there. When you look at them you start noticing things like long swing arms and size.

Semper_Fi
11-13-2009, 06:40 PM
.....

To the swing arm length you have to keep in mind this is a long wheel base LT drive train in a cafe racer concept skin. I don't have photo handy but there are some great Goldwing to cafe racer conversions out there. When you look at them you start noticing things like long swing arms and size.


Mika - thank you, that makes a lot of sense, more of a show case than an actual.

Planing to have screen saver made of all these shots - just breath taking

Radar41
11-14-2009, 03:37 AM
WOW!! I'd break into my piggy bank for one of those!!:bikes

mfifer
11-14-2009, 01:53 PM
Sorry !!! I think it is butt a** ugly and those pipes have to go!!!! :sick

What is happening to BMW and the functional motorcycle?

Lets spend more money on dealerships and less on stupid concept bikes.

IMHO

Mike

Zygmund
11-14-2009, 03:35 PM
I have to wipe the drool off the keyboard!
:help

Radar41
11-14-2009, 04:48 PM
Sorry !!! I think it is butt a** ugly and those pipes have to go!!!! :sick

What is happening to BMW and the functional motorcycle?

Lets spend more money on dealerships and less on stupid concept bikes.

IMHO

Mike

Hey Mike, it may be butt ugly to you but at 68 years, I'd buy one in a heart beat!!! The inline 6 has been a solid machine forever. GO BMW!! Put me on the list for a Concept 6 just the way it is in the photo!! Hell, I would sell my GS for one of those :)

AZ-J
11-14-2009, 06:38 PM
I have to wipe the drool off the keyboard!
:help

Thank goodness my keyboard is waterproof!


Hey Mike, it may be butt ugly to you but at 68 years, I'd buy one in a heart beat!!! The inline 6 has been a solid machine forever. GO BMW!! Put me on the list for a Concept 6 just the way it is in the photo!! Hell, I would sell my GS for one of those :)

Me too, and I am a little more than 15 years behind you. I'd sell my S for one of these, and that's not happening that easily otherwise.

rcryan
11-17-2009, 11:52 AM
One sick looking bike. I want it. :heart

Could they kill the stupid one button signal switch!! :sick

ANDYVH
11-19-2009, 10:07 PM
I recently heard at a BMW dealer, that the Concept 6 engine is actually intended as the new powerplant for the updated K-LT.

It actually makes more sense in a luxury touring bike than any sport bike.

marcopolo
11-20-2009, 01:17 AM
I recently heard at a BMW dealer, that the Concept 6 engine is actually intended as the new powerplant for the updated K-LT.

It actually makes more sense in a luxury touring bike than any sport bike.

Here's a direct quote from BMW's press release on the Concept 6: The new BMW straight-six will further expand the K-Series in the foreseeable future. The first model to be introduced will be an innovative and luxurious BMW touring machine. Reflecting the tradition of the BMW K-Series, this will of course be a genuine top-of-the-line product.

secondroy
11-23-2009, 03:29 PM
I don't recall seeing a push button starter on an automobile in some time and I don't think BMW is going to jump to put one on a consumer model since to use it you would have to take one of your hands off the bar. Just sayin.

henzilla
11-23-2009, 07:50 PM
I don't recall seeing a push button starter on an automobile in some time and I don't think BMW is going to jump to put one on a consumer model since to use it you would have to take one of your hands off the bar. Just sayin.

You'd be surprised as this is no longer true...look at Lexus,Ford,Mazda new cars..even BMW 2008 and 2009 models are coming with...a push button ignition!

GOOGLE "cars with push button start"

AZ-J
11-24-2009, 01:49 AM
My wife's 2008 Nissan has push button start.

macfly
11-24-2009, 03:05 PM
I think it was actually BMW who reintroduced the starter button on a car on the Z8 which was officially launched in Sept 99.

henzilla
11-24-2009, 05:56 PM
WOW...the Z8 is 10 years old? how time zips along...and I think you are right, seems it was the talk even back then.

And my 1959 VW Microbus had PUSH to start a lot....:laugh:laugh:laugh

angysdad
05-12-2010, 01:52 PM
I do not think I will EVER be mature enough to ride a bike like that!

mneblett
05-12-2010, 02:23 PM
I don't recall seeing a push button starter on an automobile in some time
Corvette's had one since 2005.

rocketman
05-12-2010, 02:42 PM
Nice looker but the passenger seat looks a bit rough!

RM

r80andr100rt
05-13-2010, 12:36 PM
Nice tech however its an ugly bike with poor ergonmics. I wouldn't even consider .

marcopolo
05-13-2010, 07:43 PM
Nice tech however its an ugly bike with poor ergonmics. I wouldn't even consider .

There are no plans to put this concept bike into production, but that motor will be in the new LT to be introduced in November (if you can believe what you read in bike mags).

sugarhillctd
06-16-2010, 11:02 PM
Then help us out here:

http://www.tourenfahrer.de/index.php?id=3130

texanrt
06-16-2010, 11:14 PM
I got the translation from the previously - linked article at translate/google.....

Do you think it's a BMW K1600GTL? :lurk



BMW six-cylinder LT
Erlk?Ânig caught?

What looks at first like a Kawasaki GTR turns out on closer inspection as a new BMW LT with the first time last fall presented new six-cylinder inline engine.
Today we received an interesting mail one of our readers: "Dear TF-editing, on my vacation by the U.S. in April, I was at a gas station near Los Angeles motorcycle accident this unknown to me before the lens. The driver spoke German, perhaps there is a new, camouflaged BMW? Perhaps the photo is of interest to you ... "

That's very well, because it is unmistakably presented here at a yet unknown, BMW, probably the most well-packaged new cylinder, the end of last year was. Among his key data include 55 degree slope, 1.6 liter, power 160-170 hp and above all, a decent torque, that is to let go even at 2000 rpm whopping 130 Nm.

BMW Concept 6

The BMW suspension is a familiar commodity, that is an aluminum-tube frame, front wheel suspension and Paralever rear. Striking are the long wheelbase, the voluminous muffler and far to the driver hinragende handlebars. The windshield goes up and down electrically, the bags are integrated into the vehicle, the rear-view mirrors are in contrast to the previous LT not embedded in the cladding, but sit at separate instructions booklet. LED panel embedded into the center ?? s are used as daytime running lights. The new K 1600 LT is very likely this year at the Intermot of 6-10. Presented in October in Cologne.




http://www.tourenfahrer.de/uploads/pics/bmwerl2.jpg

tallyho
06-16-2010, 11:49 PM
Do you think it's a BMW K1600GTL? :lurk

In a crude, disguised mule version but yes, I believe it is. :huh

It'll be interesting to see what the final version looks like. Those mirrors and backrest/topcase could both be a ruse. :brow

mneblett
06-17-2010, 12:01 AM
In a crude, disguised mule version but yes, I believe it is. :huh

It'll be interesting to see what the final version looks like. Those mirrors and backrest/topcase could both be a ruse. :brow
Mule is the right word -- note the fromt half: the S100RR-type headlights and the kinda-K1100-like front fairing lowers, combined with a back half: a seat, saddlebags, passenger handrails and trunk which appear to be straight off an R1200RT.

Looks like a test of the general shape of the coming fairing design (i.e., the front 1/2 of the bike). At this late date, the rear design is probably fixed, but there's no reason to expose it to the public any earlier than necessary.

$0.02 deposited.

mneblett
06-17-2010, 12:11 AM
Another note:

Sure looks like a low seat height -- that would be a wonderful advance in BMW design!

texanrt
06-17-2010, 01:23 AM
:lurk Can't wait to see the real thing.

That spy photo is popping up all over the place....

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/june/jun1710-bmw-k1600lt-spy-pic/

tallyho
06-17-2010, 06:10 PM
In there efforts to attract women and inseam challenged men to their line, BMW started offer lowered versions of just about everything this year. I would suspect the new LT will also have this option.

You wouldn't want it too low otherwise it will qualify as a Medicare mobility chair just like the GL and the Wideglide currently do. :whistle

tallyho
06-17-2010, 06:12 PM
:lurk Can't wait to see the real thing.

That spy photo is popping up all over the place.... Including earlier in this thread. That's what started this dialog. :doh

texanrt
07-30-2010, 11:52 AM
http://www.motoplus.nl/Frontend/news.php?page_id=4762

text translation.......


BMW spotted!
Home / News / New BMW spotted!
05 July 2010 (Last update: 06 July 2010)

Friday was Motoplus editor Eric Bulsink as one of the very first new six-cylinder BMW K1600GT and GTL with their own eyes the development department of BMW in Munich. Unfortunately he was camera phone to hand, so no pictures could be made. However, he received several technical details and design drawings that, but unfortunately no pictures of the entire machine. Moto Plus reader Jos Dingenen read the news about the new Moto Plus sixes on the site and what sets his surprise when he last weekend in the French Alps three BMW test drivers caught, who were on the K1600's! Despite the German curses and the men made haste to drive away, with his phone Jos could just shoot a few pictures, we show you here. Wednesday, July 14 read the complete story of the latest BMW Motorcycles Plus in 1914.

view larger photos on the linked article page....


http://www.motoplus.nl/Frontend/thumbnail3.php?image_id=5281

http://www.motoplus.nl/Frontend/thumbnail3.php?image_id=5282

hlothery
07-30-2010, 01:10 PM
Would love to compare.......especially before I retire next year! Those who claim the GL1800 to be a medicare mobility chair (jokingly, I'm sure) should watch the youtube video of YellowWolf on the Tail of the Dragon. Would certainly consider switching back to a BMW if it could offer similar performance, plus all the amenities of my Wing (and hopefully a redesigned FD). Can't wait to see it. :)

mneblett
07-30-2010, 01:27 PM
(and hopefully a redesigned FD).
BMW's press release made passing mention of the final drive -- they said it will be the current "big hole" drive, but somehow upgraded to handle the additional torque of the K16.

ragtoplvr
07-30-2010, 01:38 PM
I anticipate all the posts on how to fit the 1600 version of the final drive to the R12000/K1300 bikes. BMW might as well up-grade them all and get it all over with now.

Rod