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themayer
03-13-2009, 11:16 PM
Have been thinking of upgrading my '04 R1150RT to a new R1200RT. Before I do anything rash, would like to know if BMW is planning any major changes for model year 2010. Seems like it might be time (5 years on this design). The smart people at Marin BMW say they haven't heard anything. Anyone want to speculate?

darrylri
03-14-2009, 03:40 AM
I'm speculating that you'll get a better response to this over in the Hexheads forum. (Let me know if you feel I've made a mistake, and I'll move it back.)

PGlaves
03-14-2009, 04:06 AM
I'm speculating that you'll get a better response to this over in the Hexheads forum. (Let me know if you feel I've made a mistake, and I'll move it back.)

And I'm pretty sure that nobody can give you a reliable answer to that question, until and unless BMW makes an announcement - which they have not done (yet, at least).

themayer
03-14-2009, 06:07 PM
I'm speculating that you'll get a better response to this over in the Hexheads forum. (Let me know if you feel I've made a mistake, and I'll move it back.)
Thanks, Darryl. HEXHEADS is where I meant to put it.

themayer
03-14-2009, 06:12 PM
And I'm pretty sure that nobody can give you a reliable answer to that question, until and unless BMW makes an announcement - which they have not done (yet, at least).
Don't we specialize in unreliable speculation?http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/images/smilies/headscratch.gif
(I've got "Smilies" turned, but they don't seem to work). Oh, I see. In the "Posting Rules" box the HTML code is OFF. Can't find a place to turn it ON. How do I do that?

marcopolo
03-15-2009, 12:04 AM
I suspect the last people to speculate on a new bike design would be dealers who have the current design to sell.

BMWRich58
03-15-2009, 03:25 AM
I'm sure the options will change, whether for the good or not who knows..

I'm curious as to what is going to happen with the LT model line and Brick engine...???.....
(hope my GSA in the garage can't hear that,...or my wife...! no I'm not looking to buy something new....)

I think the LT is *WAYYY over due* for design,engine changes.

BM' has a funny way of thinkin' tho..!:dunno

themayer
03-15-2009, 04:57 AM
I'm sure the options will change, whether for the good or not who knows..

As long as they don't bring back the servo-assist brakes!

easy
03-15-2009, 09:14 PM
Have been thinking of upgrading my '04 R1150RT to a new R1200RT. Before I do anything rash, would like to know if BMW is planning any major changes for model year 2010. Seems like it might be time (5 years on this design). The smart people at Marin BMW say they haven't heard anything. Anyone want to speculate?

The R1150RT was launched in 2001, and the R1200RT in 2005. So, 2010 will be about time. But then a lot will depend on this economy. We probably won’t find out until BMW wants us to. They're very hush-hush. The last two employees who leaked information were immediately fired.

Easy :german

PGlaves
03-16-2009, 01:32 AM
Don't we specialize in unreliable speculation?

Why, yes! Yes we do! And with all the fervor of Abbot and Costello, or maybe the Three Stooges!

32232
10-14-2009, 11:30 PM
My dealer has confirmed a new model RT will be unveiled at the Toronto motorcycle show in December.

wezul
10-15-2009, 12:44 AM
Why, yes! Yes we do! And with all the fervor of Abbot and Costello, or maybe the Three Stooges!

:rofl

OMG! I darn near blew coffee all over the screen! :coffee
Since when are you a comedian, Paul? I think that's why I laughed so hard it was unexpected!

But so very true. :heh

Oh, look, that post was in March.
Well, late to the party, again.

PGlaves
10-15-2009, 01:46 AM
:rofl



Oh, look, that post was in March.
Well, late to the party, again.

But notice how the speculation just died between March and October when one dealer said something that BMW might, or might not have actually said.

wezul
10-15-2009, 01:51 AM
Yeah well, I'm holding my breath. (not really)
Very happy with the '07.
I'll be ready for a new RT in another 250K or so. ;)

greenwald
10-15-2009, 03:16 AM
The R1150RT was launched in 2001, and the R1200RT in 2005. So, 2010 will be about time. But then a lot will depend on this economy. We probably wonÔÇÖt find out until BMW wants us to. They're very hush-hush. The last two employees who leaked information were immediately fired.

Easy :german

Wrong.

The last two employees who leaked information have not yet been found! :violin

32232
10-15-2009, 08:28 PM
But notice how the speculation just died between March and October when one dealer said something that BMW might, or might not have actually said.

The dealer I was quoting said it, unsolicited, when I was enquiring about buying a 2009 model. The response was a very unequivocal "there is going to be special pricing on the left over 2009 models to make way for the updated model that will be unveiled at the December motorcycle show "

I have an almost 20 year, multiple new bike history with the dealer, who is tight-lipped at the best of times. Besides, they help staff the BMW Canada booth at the T.O. show each year. I'm content in fully believing a major update will be shown. BMW Canada has a history of premieres. I was at the Parry Sound Sportbike rally when they rolled an R1100S off the truck before [I]any press announcement had even been made.

I'll save you the speculation I've heard as to what the updates will entail.

bmwdean
10-15-2009, 10:08 PM
One opinion:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.moto-station.com/article6343-news-moto-2010-bmw-r1300rt.html&ei=lomZSoPdHoHpnQfgrumVCA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=11&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522bmw%2Br1300rt%2522%26hl%3Den%26l r%3D%26num%3D100

http://www.reunitoo.re/tout-nouveau/images/stories/Autos/auto-2/2010-bmw-r1300-rt-2.jpg

RTRandy
10-16-2009, 02:24 AM
One opinion:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.moto-station.com/article6343-news-moto-2010-bmw-r1300rt.html&ei=lomZSoPdHoHpnQfgrumVCA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=11&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522bmw%2Br1300rt%2522%26hl%3Den%26l r%3D%26num%3D100

http://www.reunitoo.re/tout-nouveau/images/stories/Autos/auto-2/2010-bmw-r1300-rt-2.jpg

That's probably pretty darn close to what to expect for 2010, however the scary part, and no offense to those who own that color, is that it appears they may be trying to bring back that Glacier Green again. In all fairness, the color looks updated and an improvement to what we saw on the 1100's around 2001.

dpmonk
10-17-2009, 12:32 AM
My opinion is the new GT is the best looking motorcycle BMW has built since the
R90S or possibly my 90/6.

I never liked the looks of the R1200RT, no offence just my personal taste,

but the picture of the 2010 RT "flangs a craving on me".

gwood
10-30-2009, 06:12 PM
I've grown used to the layered slab styling. What I want to know is if they have addressed what I consider to be the RT's one major flaw; non-adjustable handlebars. If they have brought over the bars from the K13GT, I'll be down in Bentonville with my 07 and checkbook as they unload the first one from the truck...even if it is Glacier Green!!

mneblett
10-30-2009, 06:39 PM
I've grown used to the layered slab styling. What I want to know is if they have addressed what I consider to be the RT's one major flaw; non-adjustable handlebars. If they have brought over the bars from the K13GT, I'll be down in Bentonville with my 07 and checkbook as they unload the first one from the truck...even if it is Glacier Green!!
FWIW, I actually prefer the RT's bar arrangements -- the GT's bars were one of the reasons I didn't buy that bike.

With the GT, you can bring the bars up, but not really back much. At 5'7" with proportionate arms, I needed the bars to come back further. With the RT, I could install barbaks to bring the grips both up and back. In fact, I ended up with 2 sets of barbaks installed to get to where I'm now happy with the riding position. That was just not an option on the GT (a shame -- loved the motor & handling, but just all wrong ergonomically for me).

kbasa
10-30-2009, 06:41 PM
I keep hearing that the HP2 Sport motor with the overhead cams will be in the next GS, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch for that motor to wind up in the RT. I'd love an RT with another 25hp!

85801
10-31-2009, 08:27 PM
Look at it this way. Would you rather have the last year of an old model run, or the first year of a new model run?

PGlaves
11-01-2009, 12:50 AM
Look at it this way. Would you rather have the last year of an old model run, or the first year of a new model run?

I don't know. Voni got a '94 (nominal) R1100RS in May, 1993. One of the first handful brought to the U.S. It has been a wonderful bike with few problems in 348,000 miles. It never surged, has the original final drive, and not a whole lot in major repairs.

I took delivery of my 1997 F650 on Wednesday prior to the dealership's open house and unveiling of the new model on Saturday - quickly put 600 miles on it before Friday so they could do the initial service and park it on the showroom floor for folks to look at while the other one they had was being test ridden. No teething problems to speak of with it either, but in fairness they had been out in Europe a while before they came to the U.S.

But their batting average with later "new" models maybe wasn't so good. The first injected F650s were horrible - surging. I hear the K1300s have a fuel sensitivity problem or something.

And my 1995 (last year) K75s are really nice bikes too.

So I'm undecided. But if they unveiled a new model that was really different and talked to me I might buy one just like we did the R1100RS and the F650.

themayer
01-16-2010, 06:30 PM
Have been away from the forum for six months or so. You hit it on the head about the HP2 motor, Dave. In the end, I decided that the deal I could get on a 2009 factory-lowered RT was worth more to me than the additional horse power (it was a more difficult decision with respect to the low-end torque). First substantial ride on the new bike yesterday. Super! No regrets.:heart

mpmarty
01-16-2010, 07:19 PM
I understand the 2010 RT will feature a genuine plastic float in the fuel tank to operate the gauge. There will no longer be the paddle system of turn signals where the horn honks on left turns. I wish I'd kept my 04 RT although I've no complaints with my '06 model other than I don't like the looks as well. The larger luggage room is nice as is the ESA and electronic cruise control. Just doesn't look as good as the earlier model. I pulled into a gas station to fill up and the kid working the pumps exclaimed "nice Kawasaki". Bummer!:nono

cayuse60
01-16-2010, 09:33 PM
Just returned from a 40 mile ride on my trusty K75 to the only dealer in Maine. In questioning him about FD issues he stated the new 2010 RT would have a drain plug. Anyone have the ability to verify this?

Motorwerk
01-17-2010, 01:01 AM
Just returned from a 40 mile ride on my trusty K75 to the only dealer in Maine. In questioning him about FD issues he stated the new 2010 RT would have a drain plug. Anyone have the ability to verify this?

They've had them since '08.

2010rt
01-24-2010, 11:51 PM
I own a 2008rt and saw the 2010 at the NY cycleworld show, I might pull the trigger, the bike looks great and has a lot of updates I like. We will see in the spring.

scott

dwestly
01-26-2010, 10:23 PM
My wife already has the new 2010 RT on order...lowered suspension, tri-color paint scheme, fully loaded. Dealer has already ordered it from BMW NA. Just waiting on word of a delivery schedule...