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PacWestGS
01-20-2006, 08:25 PM
Whew, :eek this was sort of close on my morning commute. It was lightly raining, the road was very wet, very dark and the morning rush-hour was just beginning. I'd only been on the road for about 10-minutes so I too was just getting myself going for the day. (Not that I didn't already have my riding mindset going, I just really wasn't in the thick of it yet, so was kind of just going down the road at this point).

I had just passed through a busy intersection and was resuming my speed of about 40-MPH (Posted 40-MPH on a four lane highway with a center left-turn lane) I was in the inside (left) lane. The two cars in front of me signaled for a left-turn and moved to the turn-lane and slowed, at this time I could not see past the first vehicle (pickup with canopy) that was turning. I went back to my ride and my threats, knowing that these two no longer posed one to me.

The second car (Buick) started its left turn about the same time I saw the oncoming car in the opposite lane, going the speed limit. I was probably still about 50-feet behind all this, and could only watch it all happen. The lane next to me was empty so I swerved that way to make some more space but at 40 there wasn't a whole lot of time to do much. I was going past and nearly perpendicular to both vehicles went they impacted. I remember seeing the backend of the turning car swing a partial 180 as it was hit right in front of the rear wheel. The car that had right-of-way (Saturn) was spinning on its front end and the rear wheels were off the ground and spinning in a 90-degree turn with its back end (seemingly) swinging right towards me. It was all more than about 20-feet away, but man did it seem closer, and even with earplugs and a helmet, I could hear the impact, the crunching of metal, and the sounds of a crash. I don’t even think the driver had time to brake. When it all settled behind me the Saturn was in the middle of the lanes, and the Buick had completed its 180 and rolled back on to the side street. Both vehicles Air bags deployed.

No one else was nearby at the moment so I slowed fast and swung a U-Turn into the corner parking lot and shined all my lights (yes, those new Xenon lights too) onto the car left in the middle of the road. I could see the first woman (the turner) was OK but the woman who was driving at 40 had her head on the steering wheel. I was thinking bad things lay ahead. How ever long it took me to take off my gloves, helmet and dig my cell phone out of the tank bag, I called 911 and gave them the situation and location while I was walking to the injured driver, (about 45-seconds). I opened her door and she looked up, (for those who don't know me the username is not fake, I was an Paramedic once, I guess always will be) I asked if she was OK, and she was, Her first sentence was, "What happened, Yeah I'm Ok, and My car, my car". I asked her (20-24 y/o) again if she felt OK and if anything was hurt, she was really pretty good. As I walked back to the other car the elderly (60-65 y/o) was getting herself out of the car, I asked if she was OK and other than the fact that she had a really good nose bleed she affirmed that she too was uninjured. I secured the three road-flares out of my panniers and proceeded to mark the lanes in both directions so that others wouldn't drive into it. Some other people had stopped and asked me if everyone was OK and then they all went about their business, (THANKS), I guess they thought I was a cop because I had my Hi-Viz reflective vest on. The elderly woman had moved to the younger woman and said guess what,
















"I DIDN'T SEE YOU", I'm so sorry, I have insurance, I just didn't see you"

I thought she needed some treatment to stop the nose bleed so I asked if see had some tissue in her car, we looked but there wasn't any, I asked her to just have a seat in her car and pinch her nose and hold her head down for little bit to stop the bleeding. She was so apologetic the whole time, and even asked if I was involved.

I got the other driver out of the road and she used my cell phone to call friends and relatives and stood in the parking lot while waiting for police. I directed traffic while waiting for EMS and the police.

Oh and while I’m standing in the road, with a flashlight, a reflective vest, mercury road flares burning, people in cars still drove right up to the scene like nothing was wrong and they too hadn’t or couldn’t see past their morning Latte. I almost got run over twice out of about 30-some vehicles. I swear people driving these days, are F’n BLIND.

I left my bike idling the whole time, about 20-minutes, I checked on it twice and the temp gage stayed in the normal area, thank someone for a 41-degree day. I think my tranny fluid was pretty warm when I did get back on the road.

The State Patrol showed up, we talked, they pushed the cars out of the road and I retrieved my phone said goodbyes and got on my bike to ride away into the sunset (OK the rest of my early morning commute). The last thing I said was to the (Pretty Cute) female Patrol Officer, "I sure hate getting back into morning traffic on this thing after that". She chuckled and I drove away.

dancogan
01-20-2006, 08:34 PM
Wish I had the knowledge, experience and presence of mind to handle a scene as well as you have! You make us proud! :usa

threeflys
01-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Glad you're safe Russ! I guess I need to put road flares in my side cases.
Chris

Bob_M
01-20-2006, 09:30 PM
Good on you for avoiding the accident. It is a war zone out there.
See ya
Bob

PacWestGS
01-20-2006, 10:34 PM
You make us proud!

Thanks Dan, It's all in a days work.

I think we all have that sense of control at one time or another in life. Dealing with chaos is what I do and what I've done for a quarter century now. I think what helps allot is being prepared, even on the bike. Yes, I have first-aid kit in those panniers too, but no one really needed me to break it out.

I was kinda disappointed that EMS didn't respond, but I guess the 911 operator believed that they weren't necessary, based on my call.

I'd hate to hear the recording of my call though, because I probably sounded excited at the moment of those 45-seconds or so. My adrenalin was just starting to kick in. Then everything was fine again, when the girl turned out to be OK. I was really beginning to believe I had an unconscious unresponsive patient on my hands and nothing more than my experience at hand.

It's kinda funny in a way, but NOT. The last time I was on a bike 12-year ago, in the rain, on I-5 in Oregon I happened upon an accident that someone died in. There was nothing we (a lot of people involved) could do, but I was there again to listen to dying mans last breath, before we extricated him and started CPR on the highway in the rain.

I've ridden in First Response Vehicles (Ambulance) to a lot of house calls for an emergency and responded to accidents where you have every modern intervention to life support and after a while you tend to become numb to it all.

I don't really want to go into a lot of details, but suffice to say in the Army and civilian work, I’ve BTDT. Today I was on my bike going to work, believe it or not this week I was getting trained and recertified as a 'First Responder' for work. I was first witness to an accident and thankfully for everyone, everyone was OK. That is always the best outcome.

Again, I think everyone of us has the ability to do something good for someone else, someday. Today I got to get reacquainted with that feeling.

Russ

:usa


P.S. Bob_M, yes I know, 10,000 miles a year of battle on the roadways. That is why I never ride without ATGATT.

P.S.2 I said that these two cars (turning left) no longer posed a threat to me, the intersection was still a threat and I saw everything that was about to happen, just couldn't prevent it. Glad I wasn't involved. :D

jgr451
01-20-2006, 10:47 PM
My heart goes out to you SFDOC.
Thanks for the post.

SNC1923
01-20-2006, 11:53 PM
Yes, thanks for this post. Very interesting and inspiring. I admire your cool head and training, and I'm glad that help was the limit of your involvement. Seeing the back end of a car swinging toward you, Saturn or otherwise, must be sobering, indeed.

Like others have said, well done. :type

Belg
01-21-2006, 09:29 AM
Way to go, good level head, and good sense of The Right Thing To Do. And yeah, never thought about flares & FAK. Added to my list of bike purchases.

But like all things, glad you were reporting the news and not a part of it :=)

Mark

BubbaZanetti
01-21-2006, 09:51 AM
Glad you made it through unscathed and were able to put your skills to work, it always amazes me the calousness of some people who just putter by an accident scene like nothing has happened when no emergency personel have arrived, just in their own little world i guess.............

Fritzc
01-21-2006, 09:54 AM
Bless you SFDOC for all you did. Will you ride with me to Vermont in July??
You would be a great riding companion with your expertise and supply of emergency tools. Now for a pet peeve of mine.

You said:

"Oh and while I’m standing in the road, with a flashlight, a reflective vest, mercury road flares burning, people in cars still drove right up to the scene like nothing was wrong and they too hadn’t or couldn’t see past their morning Latte. I almost got run over twice out of about 30-some vehicles. I swear people driving these days, are F’n BLIND."

I listen to WJR radio out of Detroit in the morning and during the traffic report there is invariably an accident somewhere on the freeways during rush hour.
The radio people ALWAYS report the traffic is backing up because of all the "gawkers" and "rubber-neckers". The law specifically states "When coming upon the scene of an accident and or flashing emergency lights you are to slow down and/or move over away from emergency vehicles." When you have five lanes of bumper to bumper traffic this causes a traffic jam!!!! Some times traffic can come to a halt for no reason at all under these conditions even if there is no accident or emergency vehicles. Look at films of traffic on congested urban roads from a helicpter and it looks like an accordian going down the road. Please do not call me a "gawker" or "rubber-necker" when I slow down at the scene of an accident. We just had a young female firefighter killed in Michigan while directing traffic at the scene of an accident. Have a little consideration and patience. We could save 10,000 lives per year if everyone would just start to work 10 minutes earlier in the morning. Think about it!! We could lower our blood pressure too.

:kiss

sgborgstrom
01-21-2006, 11:17 AM
Y'all have hit on one of my personal pet-peeves with this thread.

I support my motorcycle habit as the driver of a 38,000lb fire engine in Seattle. Never ceases to amaze me how unaware of their surroundings the average car driver can be, you'd think the flashing lights, siren and air horn would be enough to catch the attention of anybody with wits enough to get the key into the ignition.

Don't get me started on the dumb*ss stunts I've seen people pull getting around the scene of an accident. :banghead

Oh dear, 0920 on lovely rainy saturday and my BP is already on the rise....

Ride safe out there and remember "Stay Back 300 feet" and "Move Right for Sirens and Lights"


Steve

B2BWYLD
01-21-2006, 11:51 AM
"I swear people driving these days, are F’n BLIND."

...I agree


"It was all more than about 20-feet away, but man did it seem closer, and even with earplugs and a helmet, I could hear the impact, the crunching of metal, and the sounds of a crash. I don’t even think the driver had time to brake."

...This is when.....I use the .."S" word...... :blah


......kudo's for your consideration for the people involved and your actions in keeping others safe from the accident.... :clap


......but...... "The last thing I said was to the (Pretty Cute) female Patrol Officer,......."


......you could have done better than that!..... :bliss

PacWestGS
01-21-2006, 12:49 PM
......but...... "The last thing I said was to the (Pretty Cute) female Patrol Officer,......."


......you could have done better than that!..... :bliss


:lol Are you saying I shouldn't have used the description phrase (Pretty Cute) because it could be construed as demeaning to women, who are pretty cute? Or, or you suggesting that I should have inquired as to what she was doing after work? :brow

I'm a happily married man, with a wonderful wife to come home to. :D




Some clarification on the blind drivers and almost getting run over. Most of the drivers planning to make a left turn at this intersection made an early one cutting through the corner gas station, one of them (out of about 50 I wasn’t counting) drove up to and through the accident scene over all the broken plastic and squeezed through, the other drove all the way up and then made a U-Turn. I wasn't controlling that side too well it was better seen. The side I was controlling was the main road; long, straight, plenty of visibility and lighting. The two main offenders were solo cars (not in a group of five or more), they would drive right up to scene at 40(+/-) and then realize what was there, slam on the brakes then panic as they were controlled by me to drive around the accident in the center lane. One of the drivers managed to drive over a flare and put it out. A lot of those drivers still managed to drive up to and within 300-500 feet before slowing down.

I had thought of putting my bike with the four-way-flashers on in the road, but I'm glad I didn't do that; it probably would have been hit by one of these too occupied/blind drivers. At least I only had to do the 'Traffic Control Shuffle" (escape near impact) a couple of times. My bike would have been a new accident. :bluduh

It wasn’t even raining at this point. :rolleyes

B2BWYLD
01-21-2006, 06:37 PM
"I'm a happily married man, with a wonderful wife to come home to..."


.....you did such a great job with the accident.....I had to give you a "bad time"...about something! ........ :D

riderR1150GSAdv
01-21-2006, 08:56 PM
I almost got run over twice out of about 30-some vehicles. I swear people driving these days, are F’n BLIND.


That's about the only thing most folks are good at. :bluduh
Glad that you're fine and stayed out of that mayhem. :thumb

Just today I saw the remnants of a BMW (/6) on which the rider got T-boned and killed just before x-mas. The broad that did it claimed she didn't see him, she was too busy talking on her cellphone about 'important' stuff.
Instead of celebrating x-mas his kids got to go to a funeral.

Everyone, please be SEEN!!!

SheRidesABeemer
01-23-2006, 01:24 PM
"One of the drivers managed to drive over a flare and put it out. A lot of those drivers still managed to drive up to and within 300-500 feet before slowing down. "

and we think we have a prayer of being noticed?! :dunno

BradfordBenn
01-23-2006, 07:00 PM
"One of the drivers managed to drive over a flare and put it out. A lot of those drivers still managed to drive up to and within 300-500 feet before slowing down. "

and we think we have a prayer of being noticed?! :dunno

Now you know why I ride with Ears and a Tail.

PacWestGS
01-23-2006, 11:20 PM
and we think we have a prayer of being noticed?! :dunno

Gail, I was going to say earlier and screwed up the reply so here it goes again.


You didn't know we have 'Super-powers" :brow

Every time we twist the throttle we become 'Invisible'. :groovy

I've been trying as best I can to keep these powers in check by wearing my anti-invisibility suit :laugh

http://SFDOC.smugmug.com/photos/33549043-M.jpg

but some times you just need to keep looking for the enemy, because they can see right through your suit and everything else you try. :rolleyes

Yes, we are invisible and in this case so was a 3,000-lb Saturn with two head lights.

Be safe out there and be careful.

Edit: I saw another rider yesterday wearing this same Helly-Hanson (Day-Glo, Green/Refelctive) vest, he stuck out like a light bulb in a dark room. I'm sure some other drivers never even saw him. :banghead

Fritzc
01-26-2006, 06:15 PM
Not a cycle accident but so funny, I have to share it.
I think this originates around Dallas TX.

http://www.chumfm.com/MorningShow/bits/march24.swf

PacWestGS
01-26-2006, 06:48 PM
Thanks Fritz, that's a good one, 'Here's your Sign' :D

BradfordBenn
01-26-2006, 09:55 PM
Dang!

lorazepam
01-27-2006, 11:42 AM
Funny how stuff becomes automatic, isnt it Russ? I do the same thing in those situations, even though I havent been in the business for over 20 years.

Motorman
01-27-2006, 01:34 PM
SFDOC,

Glad to hear that you made it through the situation unscathed.

I long ago stopped counting the near misses. I couldn't count that high anyhow. I do remember the one hit that cost me my career and gave me a permanent reminder of the collision that I live with everyday. I was on a rather prominantly marked bike complete with flashing headlight and it made no diffference.

If you are riding you MUST ride as if they are out to get you, because they ARE out to get you if you think so or not. They may not realize they are out to get you but you will still pay the consequences of it.