InJustice in America - Janklow [Archive]

mff

01-06-2006, 10:26 AM

Stuff2C

01-06-2006, 10:42 AM

:usa The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Shakespeare :usa

Scootertrash

01-06-2006, 12:15 PM

I think every tenth one might get their attention...

Stuff2C

01-06-2006, 03:18 PM

Every 3rd one...lets make a point :nod

Scootertrash

01-06-2006, 03:47 PM

I dunno. It's gonna be tough to hide the bodies. Not unless, a "Soylent Green" strategy is used...

Stuff2C

01-06-2006, 07:01 PM

http://www.soylent-green.com/ Great Idea? ;)

Oznay

01-07-2006, 07:49 AM

I'd love to catch that murederin'bastard broke down out on a lonely stretch of highway.I'll tell ya,only one of us would be comin'home,and I wouldn't even be late for supper

Oznay

01-07-2006, 07:51 AM

I'd love to catch that murederin'bastard broke down out on a lonely stretch of highway.I'll tell ya,only one of us would be comin'home,and I wouldn't even be late for supper
murderin'even....

goferu

01-07-2006, 08:04 AM

The AMA sent a protest letter against Janklow...way to go....

dlearl476

01-07-2006, 07:51 PM

The AMA sent a protest letter against Janklow...way to go....
I guess it's a case of my lawyers are bigger than your lawyers.

basketcase

01-07-2006, 08:17 PM

We all are painfully aware that we have the best government money can buy ... and in some cases, the best judges, too. :type

riderR1150GSAdv

01-08-2006, 09:33 AM

We all are painfully aware that we have the best government money can buy ... and in some cases, the best judges, too. :type

Very true and very sad also

BradfordBenn

01-08-2006, 02:08 PM

Sorry Bullit, I just took South Dakota out of my GPS...

kreinke

01-08-2006, 06:15 PM

I hope I don't get sent to the dog house for this but........

I used to consider myself of the "fiscal conservative social liberal" persuasion but I'm ashamed at our representatives in what's come out of this Abramoff and Delay scandal.

These guys and everyone around them thinks they did nothing wrong. They're taking vacations to meetings in Scottland to play golf. Going to tropical islands on lobbyist-supplied private jets, etc.

The main guy is called "The Hammer".

And I ask you, what does any of this stuff have to do with representing the average American?

They say you can tell lots about someone by who's company they keep. These guys don't give a hoot about 95% of us. sad really.

BubbaZanetti

01-08-2006, 06:40 PM

I hope I don't get sent to the dog house for this but........

don't worry, you're safe :D

John Brase

01-08-2006, 06:51 PM

Two thoughts:

...These guys don't give a hoot about 95% of us. sad really.

Enlightenment is a good thing. Even if is "a long time coming."

And secondly; I now have yet another reason to not go to Sturgis.

John

ironMan

01-09-2006, 07:05 PM

I wonder what would happen if someone posted the Email address of the Bill Janklow law firm on various website frequented by the motorcycle community. He might find out how popular he is.

RandyB

01-10-2006, 02:42 PM

Let's find out: http://pview.findlaw.com/view/1926743_1 No email but it's a start.

What's he gonna do? Send me back to Iraq? I about live in the doghouse around here anyway.

riderR1150GSAdv

01-10-2006, 05:38 PM

Mass mail him tons of pictures of the rider he killed................. :deal

stan

01-10-2006, 07:06 PM

There is an old Chinese proverb that states "If you sit by the river long enough, your enemies will float by" Justice will be served by a higher source at another place and in another time. Keep the faith.

BradfordBenn

01-10-2006, 08:36 PM

As much as I hate to say it, maybe we could be considered stalking or harrassing if we all did it. DAMHIK, IJK.

RandyB

01-11-2006, 07:57 AM

I doubt a mass mailing would have any effect anyway. He seems a bit smug and self-satisfied.

I just got off the phone with the lawyer/pillion. Her advice is to take this to the Ethics Committee of the SD State Bar Association. Just because he has been reinstated by a court does not absolve him of responsibility. I'm sure there is more to this than has been reported, but she seems to think it's worth pursuing. Too bad she's not licensed in SD.

TheSlashFiveTourer

01-18-2006, 01:12 AM

(2006-01-06) Bill Janklow, a former congressman and four-term governor, can return to the practice of law on Feb. 15, the South Dakota Supreme Court ruled Thursday. The 4-1 decision, made by a substitute high court of five circuit judges appointed to handle the case, means Janklow will be reinstated to practice law about a year before his probation ends for second-degree manslaughter and other offenses related to an August 2003 crash that killed a motorcycle driver.
(2006-01-07) The AMA sent a protest letter against Janklow...way to go....
AMA "Outraged" Over Reinstatement Of Janklow's Law License (http://www.motorcyclebg.com/general.cfm?page=011706_ama.htm&visitor_id=E7DD8645-155C-4329-80D6-C53F7C1A536D) (2006-01-06)

Plainsscout

01-19-2006, 11:19 PM

First may I point out that Janklow has not made his living practicing law but being a politician.

Second, he is not getting out of jail because he is a lawyer, but because he is a politician.

Third, it was a lawyer that prosecuted him and sent him to prison.

Fourth, he should stay in prison longer that Average Joe because he is a politician.

Lawyers are like tire repair kits fellows. You never appreciate one until you need one. Now politicians, what do we really need them for? ;)

ian408

01-20-2006, 12:46 AM

One wonders how long it will be before this little bump in the road
never happened :sick

Ian

Hodag

01-20-2006, 12:51 AM

you all have a couple of choices
a. bitch about it, and do nothing
b. do something
c. do nothing
d. soup

if you picked b. what are you going to do? mass mail him, like he cares. His handlers get the mail. Avoid SD, and punish all of SD. Last time I heard SD could use some tourism dollars. Punish the short order cooks by not buying breakfast when you don't visit.

The Bush (Haliburton) goverment is killing more young people every day than Janklow has by putting them in harms way in Iraq for a false war. That deserves an action, for me that means I'm avoiding Texas.

RT_guy

01-20-2006, 09:05 AM

...The Bush (Haliburton) goverment is killing more young people every day than Janklow has by putting them in harms way in Iraq for a false war. That deserves an action, for me that means I'm avoiding Texas.

Oh jeeez... I love this place. :banghead

Mika

01-20-2006, 10:11 AM

There is law and there is justice. The law was served. What would serve justice in this case?

At the time the verdict came down the family of the victim accepted the decision of the court. They wanted to move on and grieve the loss they suffered. At what point are we hijacking their lives, their loss, and their grief for our own sense of indignation for the gap between what the law demands and justice cries out for?

Scootertrash

01-20-2006, 10:17 AM

So, I guess keying the paint job on his car isn't enough....

Mika

01-20-2006, 10:48 AM

So, I guess keying the paint job on his car isn't enough....

It may be a start but why punish the car? Slap a HARLEYS SUCK sticker on it instead and then see what happens. :bolt

bullit7801

01-20-2006, 03:27 PM

:lurk
Sorry Bullit, I just took South Dakota out of my GPS...
I'm sorry, too, Brad. I have expressed my opinion on this issue before, so briefly:

He was convicted by a jury of people from his home town. The judge alone determined the sentence. His 100 day sentence in jail had the provision for work release (charity work) after 50 days if he chose to do so. He didn't. He sat on his fat butt in jail for the 100 days.

The Scott family is pursuing the suit against him in the Minnesota courts, but he won the ruling that he was on government business, so the US taxpayers, not Janklow, will pay any settlement.

While he was in politics (He served as state's attorney, SD Attorney General, Govornor, and as US Representative) he has a reputation of being one of the best trial lawyers in the state and did earn his living as a attorney for many years when not in office.

The reinstatement was done by substitute judges because the current SD Supreme Court contains only judges that were appointed by Janklow when he was govornor.

The above is fact that can be verified.

My opinion is that Janklow is more than smug. He is arrogant. He is a Jerk. He has never, to my knowledge, appoligized to the Scott family and continues to behave as if he did nothing wrong. He blames the "accident" on his insulin dependent diabetes and not having the right meal earlier that day. NOTHING you all may do will change his mind, he is right (HE thinks) and so you are all irrelevant (HE thinks).

As I have said before, IF you, like Brad, choose to avoid South Dakota, I understand. There are lots of great people who live in this state. That is why it amazes me that almost half of them still support Janklow and would vote for him again. This is why I don't think taking this to the Ethics Committee of the SD State Bar Association would help. They are all his buddies or owe him favors.

I was disappointed that he got only 100 days and I am now sad that he got his licence back early.

tb

jgr451

01-20-2006, 11:06 PM

As a lawyer following this story and this thread I have to agree with plainsscout.
In my universe if you have to go to court to get reinstated it is because the state bar governing body has declined to reinstate him.Wonder if anyone closer to the true facts knows about that?
For me,the fact that Janklow screwed up cannot lead to this sickness called "Everybody in the justice system is corrupt so lets kill em all especially him,but any lawyer will do".
That is vigilantism,folks,which is the precursor to the lynch mob.Black men were lynched in the midwest(Indiana?) as late as the 1950s,I believe.
By the way,Canada,America,Britain,India,Australia and many other countries share a common law legal system which is centuries old and very cognate.So don't get on a high horse about foreign lawyers having an opinion.

BradfordBenn

01-20-2006, 11:22 PM

:lurk

I'm sorry, too, Brad. I have expressed my opinion on this issue before, so briefly:

~~~snip~~~

I was disappointed that he got only 100 days and I am now sad that he got his licence back early.

tb

I'll make you a deal, if you can get me a response to the letter I sent to your governor (http://www.bradfordbenn.com/MainSite/SouthDakota.cfm) or get a response from the governor or your representative about mandatory sentencing laws, I will come and visit and show up on your door step :) with a six pack of the beverage of your choice.
:usa

BubbaZanetti

01-21-2006, 10:05 AM

As I have said before, IF you, like Brad, choose to avoid South Dakota, I understand. There are lots of great people who live in this state. That is why it amazes me that almost half of them still support Janklow and would vote for him again. This is why I don't think taking this to the Ethics Committee of the SD State Bar Association would help. They are all his buddies or owe him favors.

although it really bugs me that this man is so unrepentant for his actions, i really can't see avoiding a state doing much good. to me, "states" (their geography, their people, their attractions) really should transcend their politicians and if i find something super cool that i want to do in S. Dakota than i'll probably still do it.

kbasa

01-21-2006, 10:14 AM

although it really bugs me that this man is so unrepentant for his actions, i really can't see avoiding a state doing much good. to me, "states" (their geography, their people, their attractions) really should transcend their politicians and if i find something super cool that i want to do in S. Dakota than i'll probably still do it.

In.

Rich

01-21-2006, 04:07 PM

Sorry, but just because a state has a rotten politician isn't going to keep me away. Hell, we have a couple in ND that I don't care for much either, but I still live here and pay taxes. They haven't killed anyone yet, though. :laugh

SD has some of the best riding in the upper midwest, if you hit the Black Hills during the non-tourist season. I've left tons of money down there, and will keep doing so. I also have a daughter living and going to school in Rapid City, and she absolutely loves it there. She will be marrying and moving on to Kansas City in August, but has mentioned that someday she would like to be back in the Black Hills. In fact, I could just see myself living in there someday.

tourunigo

01-21-2006, 04:50 PM

In.

As a Canadian I really have minimal knowledge regarding the situation. However, Mary and I have travelled most of the United States and no matter what our preconceived notions were we always (Always) found good folks and beautiful geography. Travel has a way of breaking down narrow mindedness and we thank everyone that we have met for allowing us a balanced view of a great nation. Damn.....I think I'm gonna break into song! :usa -Bob

Bob_M

01-21-2006, 09:27 PM

Last night Frontline on the Public Broadcasting Channel did an in depth report on the fantastic profits that banks are earning on credit cards. The trend to high interest rates that supercede any national governance was started by none other than Bill Janklow. As economic development he allowed SD to become a haven for predatory lenders. The trend now casts its shadow over us all.

A pox on the house of Janklow

Hodag

01-21-2006, 09:54 PM

BradfordBenn

01-22-2006, 11:32 PM

Mark--- You are supposed to be running this place, not Bullit's life.

kbasa

01-22-2006, 11:57 PM

As a Canadian I really have minimal knowledge regarding the situation. However, Mary and I have travelled most of the United States and no matter what our preconceived notions were we always (Always) found good folks and beautiful geography. Travel has a way of breaking down narrow mindedness and we thank everyone that we have met for allowing us a balanced view of a great nation. Damn.....I think I'm gonna break into song! :usa -Bob

We probably need to get our Northern Neighbors and friends a little flag like that with a maple leaf on it, huh?

jgr451

01-23-2006, 12:13 AM

Yes!!Tempting though it is to trot out the German flag,back bacon does require proper honours and identification.
Thank y'all,who made this lil ole thang possible,from all the Canucks who gather here.

tourunigo

01-23-2006, 04:54 AM

We probably need to get our Northern Neighbors and friends a little flag like that with a maple leaf on it, huh?

:wave that would be nice. I have no idea how to make one myself. Today is our federal election day so ..... off to the polls I go. Again, thanks for the thought. -Bob

BubbaZanetti

01-23-2006, 08:33 AM

We probably need to get our Northern Neighbors and friends a little flag like that with a maple leaf on it, huh?

good idea, perhaps a mexican flag too, last i knew north america was 3 countries and i'm pretty sure the club has a fair representation in all of them.............

bullit7801

01-23-2006, 08:34 AM

I'll make you a deal, if you can get me a response to the letter I sent to your governor (http://www.bradfordbenn.com/MainSite/SouthDakota.cfm) or get a response from the governor or your representative about mandatory sentencing laws, I will come and visit and show up on your door step :) with a six pack of the beverage of your choice.
:usa
While I think Governor Rounds is mostly a good man, I doubt that you will ever get a responce to your letter. :banghead You're not a SD voter and the attendance at Sturgis last summer wasn't down at all.
Mandatory sentencing laws are a political can of worms.

I guess we'll have to have that beer at some rally down the road. :buds

Back to :lurk

tb

BradfordBenn

01-23-2006, 07:05 PM

While I think Governor Rounds is mostly a good man, I doubt that you will ever get a responce to your letter. :banghead You're not a SD voter and the attendance at Sturgis last summer wasn't down at all.
Mandatory sentencing laws are a political can of worms.

I guess we'll have to have that beer at some rally down the road. :buds

Back to :lurk

tb

Okay. How about if you copy the letter and send it.... then share what you get back? How about Beer either way?
:thumb :buds

BradfordBenn

01-23-2006, 07:31 PM

The Canadian Flag is in progress....

tourunigo

01-23-2006, 08:31 PM

The Canadian Flag is in progress....

:bar thanks eh?! jeeze, uh.....wait there just a second :drink .......ok.... thanks for the consideration, talent and time. A good drink of black rum is comin' your way in Vermont! Just follow the noise! -Bob and Mary (www.tourunigo.com) ..... shameless advertising but it will help you find us! :hide .... "that ol' black rum's got a hold on me like a dog wrapped 'round my leg..." :sick -Great Big Sea (wonderful musicians from the lovely Province of Newfoundland )

BradfordBenn

01-23-2006, 08:45 PM

MMMMm Rum

:buds:

jgr451

01-24-2006, 01:22 AM

:bar thanks eh?! jeeze, uh.....wait there just a second :drink .......ok.... thanks for the consideration, talent and time. A good drink of black rum is comin' your way in Vermont! Just follow the noise! -Bob and Mary (www.tourunigo.com) ..... shameless advertising but it will help you find us! :hide .... "that ol' black rum's got a hold on me like a dog wrapped 'round my leg..." :sick -Great Big Sea (wonderful musicians from the lovely Province of Newfoundland )

Hey Hey hey it's a beautiful day..
Got any more a that scouse?

tourunigo

02-01-2006, 04:08 PM

The Canadian Flag is in progress....

:beer :lurk ...... this is soooooo exciting! If it's a flag that 'waves' then....well, damn, I'm pullin' out the Newfoundland Screech :drink an' settin' yer arse on a folding, three legged .....no wait....I'll take the stool and you take my chair. Rumor has it that we're not that hard to find at the rally! :buds -Bob (and Mary concurs....really)

BubbaZanetti

02-01-2006, 04:14 PM

this thread has more smileys than you can shake a stick at

riderR1150GSAdv

02-01-2006, 05:31 PM

this thread has more smileys than you can shake a stick at

I guess so :thumb :rofl :bar

tourunigo

02-01-2006, 06:22 PM

:type ... hmmm... being somewhat 'trained' on the entrails of Freud, I would suggest that the use of these characters provides a bit of insight into the character of the submiter (.....dang, was that a Freudian slip??). Just a thought. However, much better than capital letters, exclamation points and bold letters. My praise :clap for those who can create them. -Bob

TheSlashFiveTourer

02-02-2006, 03:56 AM

. . . However, much better than capital letters, exclamation points and bold letters. Bob

WELL!!. . . ‘unigo Bob’,. . .to each his own style. . .I GUESS!!! ` `(BUT THE EMOTICONS ARE STARTING TO WEAR A BIT THIN IN PLACES!!!) D'ya think????

And now, back to the Janklow and Justice in America thread.

tourunigo

02-02-2006, 07:16 AM

true...should be in some other place if at all. Now, back to serious matters.
-Bob

Clay

01-18-2012, 10:49 AM

Bill Janklow, a former congressman and four-term governor, can return to the practice of law on Feb. 15, the South Dakota Supreme Court ruled Thursday. The 4-1 decision, made by a substitute high court of five circuit judges appointed to handle the case, means Janklow will be reinstated to practice law about a year before his probation ends for second-degree manslaughter and other offenses related to an August 2003 crash that killed a motorcycle driver.

All news
Former Gov. Bill Janklow dead at age 72
January 13, 2012

Former South Dakota Gov. Bill Janklow, who served 100 days in jail for killing a motorcyclist in a traffic crash, died of brain cancer on Jan. 12. He was 72.

In 2003, Janklow was sentenced to 100 days in jail after being convicted of felony manslaughter for driving a car through a stop sign at a speed estimated at more than 70 mph into the path of motorcyclist Randolph Scott, 55, of Hardwick, Minn. Scott died at the scene.

Janklow also lost his driver’s license for three years, was placed on probation for three years and was ordered to pay $11,000 in fines in costs.

The Associated Press reported that Janklow announced at a news conference in November that he had inoperable brain cancer and his only regret was running the stop sign and killing Scott.