Stalling After Filling Up

[100658]

Greetings. Haven't been riding in some time (no excuses, just haven't been), but I plan to do much more once it warms up once again. I have a question from this past summer, when I last took a long trip (Washington, D.C., to Detroit). Every time I filled the gas tank, I immediately stalled. I pulled out of the filling station fine, turned, and at the next light stopped -- once the light turned, there was a hiccup and then the engine was dead. This happened twice. I'm an experienced enough rider that I don't usually stall, and I can't remember ever having this problem before.

It was a hot day (95 degrees or more) if that matters. Anyone else had this experience and/or know of the remedy?

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Frank H. Wu
2002 K1200RS

[kbasa]

Is your tank vent plugged?

[100658]

Hmm. How would I know?

[bmwmick]

Is your tank vent plugged?

Do you still have the charcoal cannister installed? If you overfill the tank, the cannister has been known to fill with fuel (rather than vapors) and cause various problems with running. Remove the cannister and set it in a can upside down just to see if fuel comes out.

[Bruce_C]

Hmm. How would I know?

Frank
Slowly open the fuel cap and if you hear a sucking sound (South?) you might have a vent line plugged or pinched.
I have a question. When you fill the tank, are you filling it to as full as you can possibly get it?
Bruce C

[boofer]

How long before it will restart. I ask this because on hot days riding in town my K100RS would sometimes experience vapor lock, after a very short stop. Engine temperature increases when first turned off and boils the fuel in the fuel rail. Normally it would start but not run above idle until it was left to cool, usually 20 min. or so.

No such problem with the K12 as of yet.

Tim

[Furman]

I too have had this problem. I found it happens whem I fill the tank all the way to the top and the fuel has no room to expand. If I open the tank it will release the presure and stop the stalling. If the fuel evoperator sytem is set up like a car it will not vent untill there is only 3/4 of a tank. If it did vent the charcoal canister would load up with fuel. So the tank does not vent but builds up presurer, which must cause a problem with the fuel injection.


The cure I found is leave some room for the fuel to expand.

Furman
2002 K1200RS

(I can't spell that is why I am a mechix)

[kbasa]

When I picked up my R11S a few years ago, the guy giving me the orientation on the bike recommended that I leave about a half inch below the bottom of the filler neck for expansion and venting.

Not sure how that works with a Kbike.

[GregFeeler]

When I picked up my R11S a few years ago, the guy giving me the orientation on the bike recommended that I leave about a half inch below the bottom of the filler neck for expansion and venting.

Not sure how that works with a Kbike.


Should be setup the same way - BMW tends to do things consistantly. However, I always fill my K12RS to the bottom of the "ring" and have ridden in some very (way too) hot conditions and have never had a stalling problem.

[100658]

Thanks. I appreciate the many responses.

I'm definitely overfilling the tank. That explains it.

Can't wait for it to warm up!

[SKS46LT05]

When I picked up my R11S a few years ago, the guy giving me the orientation on the bike recommended that I leave about a half inch below the bottom of the filler neck for expansion and venting.

Not sure how that works with a Kbike.

same thing was told to me by both the BMW salesman and the lead mechanic at Bloodworth BMW here in Nashville. Both warned me not to top off the bike or get fuel into the charcoal canister. Leaving a skosh of space between the tank/top drops the mileage by around 10 miles, so they said. Hell, with 250-275 range, compared to my old Vulcan's 100 mile range, i can give up 10 miles without whining too much.