Long trips?

[94980]

I am considering an F650GS and was wondering how they handle long trips. Are they comfortable to ride. Do they work well at freeway speeds for extended periods. Duribility? I have an R1150RT right now and like the bike but I want something I can ride on unimproved roads and fire-trails as well as the freeway. I was also considering the R1200GS but I think it might be a little too heavy for some of the terrain that I want to ride on. Any help would be apprceiated.
Gary

[PUDGYPAINTGUY]

I can say that I have ridden one for about 300 miles at a clip before, and the only discomfort for me was the stock saddle. If it were my bike I would get a Russel saddle or another custom saddle for real distance. The highway speed is awesome, even with my big butt on it I can cruise very comfy at 75-80 without breaking a sweat and still return 46 mpg.

The real surprise on these bikes is the amount of grunt they have, very impressive torque indeed. The hardest thing I had to deal with when my wife bought it was the stock sound, it really sounds odd...I have since heard an aftermarket pipe and it really improves the sound. Compared to my twin the single has a slight different characteristic though, you know, when the throttle lets off the engine decelerates differently probably a difference in flywheel weight etc, Flash412 really is an expert on these beasts. As he recommended to me, go check out the chain gang forum and have a looksy.

I have the 1150 GS and at times I almost wished I had bought the 650 Dakar because these things are so much fun to ride, and you can get all kinds of aftermarket options too like with the big GS.

In short I am sold, and with a saddle change I would ride one to Alaska tomorrow.

[94980]

Well that sounds like what I am looking for. I suppose I will have to go to the local dealer and have an extended test ride. Perhaps I should also try the 12GS. The 650GS still sounds like a good choice.
Gary

[PUDGYPAINTGUY]

Another idea maybe to rent one for the weekend or for the day. Do a search for rental companies as many are begining to consider the 650 as a viable option now. When I was out west earlier in the year I saw all kinds of 650 rrental bikes on the road. Although if the dealer will give you one over night get a Dakar if the height suits you, and go have fun...hehehe

[kbasa]

Flash to the white courtesy phone. Mr. Flash412 to the white courtesy phone.

[andy45320]

I am considering an F650GS and was wondering how they handle long trips. Are they comfortable to ride. Do they work well at freeway speeds for extended periods. Duribility? I have an R1150RT right now and like the bike but I want something I can ride on unimproved roads and fire-trails as well as the freeway. I was also considering the R1200GS but I think it might be a little too heavy for some of the terrain that I want to ride on. Any help would be apprceiated.
Gary

I test rode the GS dakar during the demo ride down at the RA rally last week...a very cool ride indeed. I was/am looking for similar things in a second ride...a little rough road riding (plans of a grand trip to alaska someday) but mainly it will serve for my commute and take some of the miles I am currently putting on my GT.

The bike rides great on the road, but is nothing like a twin or a K (not that it's a bad thing). The sound is for sure different (hey it's one cylinder), but it is not unplesent in anyway. I kind of liked the stock seat (though I only put 20 miles on it). It was nice because it was big and wide (meaning you could slide back and forth).

If you go with a dakar, be aware of the seat height. I am 6'1" and the seat was for sure higher than what I was use to....that's what you get with a 21" front wheel :) I about this time next year, and I will start looking for a used dakar (post-2002 that has abs).

[Voni]

Having just ridden my RED F650 from Kansas to New Mexico and then to Tennessee on the way home I can tell you it is one sweet ride! But then I knew that when I rode a YELLOW one in Africa for two months last fall.

It's especially sweet when the road construction turns to road destruction ; ) Or for that little trail to the side of the highway when you wonder what's over the hill. . . .

Voni
sMiling

[GlobalRider]

I am considering an F650GS and was wondering how they handle long trips. Are they comfortable to ride. Do they work well at freeway speeds for extended periods. Duribility? Gary

I'd say so.

Someone I know has been through Europe, Africa, Asia, the US and now South America on his F650.

On two trips alone, he put 82,496 kms (51,271 miles) on his F650 with only very minor issues, issues you probably won't encounter due to the easier life your F650 might experience.

[BrklynDakar]

I rode my Dakar from NYC - Mexico - NYC in under 3 weeks. It does get significantly more vibrations over 65 mph and strong winds will keep you alert, but otherwise I was comfortable the whole trip. I think tires make a big difference also. If you are regularly doing long trip this is not the bike for it, given all the other options, but it is a comfortable bike on long trip.

[61998]

I'm in the process of planning a cross-crounty ride during November - starting from Alexandria, VA. Would appreciate information about the weather conditions this time of year across S. Dakota and Montana. Bottom line, what's the possibility of crossing Montana without hitting snow?

[lorazepam]

I'm in the process of planning a cross-crounty ride during November - starting from Alexandria, VA. Would appreciate information about the weather conditions this time of year across S. Dakota and Montana. Bottom line, what's the possibility of crossing Montana without hitting snow?

In November your chance is slim to none that you will not hit snow.

[knary]

In November your chance is slim to none that you will not hit snow.

What he said. I hope those tires come with spikes.

[PUDGYPAINTGUY]

I came across MT a month ago and I did manage to turn the vest off for a whole 3 hours during the peak of day....snow is a coming and has arrived in places already

[MYCLau]

Having owned an R90S many years ago, I took the Basic Rider Course this May and then acquired an '05 F650GS in August to get back into biking again. It has been a blast reacquainting myself with the two-wheel experience. I'm finding the F650GS a very capable motorcycle. My oldest son also purchased an F650GS ('03) which makes for the occasional father/son bonding.

I have not yet taken any long trips and purposely staying clear of most of the major freeways, I intend to chart out some secondary roads for weekend rides in the near future.

Good luck with your F650__. I see an Escondido address. Perhaps I'll see you on the road sometime.

Mike

[BklynPete]

i've ridden a f650gs as a loaner bike and pleasantly surprised about it's ride. one of the first things i plan on doing when i get out to new mexico is to set one up for a ride to alaska that i plan on doing this summer. i seem to remember seeing a plastic 10 gallon gas tank for this bike, is is still available? i'm just dissapointed that the bike needs premium fuel (that's what it said on the gas fller cap). i figure i will put on a touring windshield, a rick mayer saddle (this time, i can actually go out there for a fitting) jesse bags and touring trunk. i should be good to go. it'll also be a good bike for me to explore some of the great desert roads of the southwest too. i think it will make a great addition to my r1200rt. :clap

[Voni]

Your best source for F650 info is here:
http://f650.com/website/Content/NewItems.aspx?CategoryId=10&NoSum=true

I'm sure loving my fRed.

Voni
sMiling

[sgborgstrom]

snip i'm just dissapointed that the bike needs premium fuel (that's what it said on the gas fller cap). snip :clap

Forget what it says on the cap, most of us sixfiddy riders find the bikes run better with regular unleaded onboard. Check out f650.com and do a search for "fixes to surging and stalling"

Steve

[Visian]

fRed.



:laugh

Ian

[BklynPete]

Your best source for F650 info is here:
http://f650.com/website/Content/NewItems.aspx?CategoryId=10&NoSum=true

I'm sure loving my fRed.

Voni
sMiling


lol voni, why did i just know yours is red.

[BklynPete]

Forget what it says on the cap, most of us sixfiddy riders find the bikes run better with regular unleaded onboard. Check out f650.com and do a search for "fixes to surging and stalling"

Steve

that's interesting, i wouldn't be concerned with surging and stalling, more with pinging at load. i know my r1200rt has a variable timing device that can adjust for lower octane fuel that i can use in a bind, but you do lose power. i usually trust engineers to know what fuels their engines run on. don't get me wrong, if it does run on regular without any major consequences, then great. i just wouldn't want to find out somewhere on the alcan hwy.

[sgborgstrom]

My 2001 dakar hauls me (225lbs nekkid) and my camping gear up and down the Cascade Mountains running regular grade gas with nary a ping.
http://stromborg.smugmug.com/photos/34276120-M.jpg
YMMV

Steve

[Consultant]

I have ridden a 2003 F650CSA about 4000 miles in the last 12 months, mostly two-up. Longest day about 250 miles by destination choice. Average 60mpg+, no problems except a flat tire. A better seat would help. I made sheepskin seat pads similar to the Alaskan Leather ones and it made all the difference. The thumper engine sound takes some getting used to but grows on one over time. Less engine vibration than a R1150R. Light weight makes great maneuverability in traffic. Installed a Garmin Quest GPS, bags, a second power outlet, connection for a jumper cable (not yet used) and a modulated driving light. Previous bikes were R50/2 and current other bike is a K75S. I am coming to believe the F650CS is the most underrated BMW made. Plenty of power above about 3000 rpm and certainly not a "girlie bike." Also like the bag compartment where the gas tank usually is. Great for map and camera storage. Also is less expensive to buy, insure and maintain than R or K bikes.

[djw]

My 2001 dakar hauls me (225lbs nekkid)
Steve


Now, now, what about ATGATT? :bolt

Carry on.

[Voni]

Consultant wrote:
Plenty of power above about 3000 rpm and certainly not a "girlie bike."

Don't tell my fRed!

Voni
sMiling

[PUDGYPAINTGUY]

My buddy just borrowed my wife's 650 this past weekend and we rode lanes and trails...260 one day and 280 the next day. He said that he was comfortable the whole way. He sat on that pad from 8:30 am to about 6:00pm each day...well when he wasn't up on the pegs on the trails...hehehehe. That bike is just amazing.

[110164]

Summer before last, I took my stock '99 f650 from Seattle to Denver and back (stopping off in Spokane on the return leg for the National Rally). 300-450 miles a day. Everything was stock... windshield, pipes, seat, chain and sprockets... I used a full set of RKA bags, tank bag, tank saddle bags and rear panniers. I put the rest of my luggage in a river bag and strapped it behind me. My backside was able to stand up to the stock seat although vibration at the end of the days ride made my hands tingle a little. I stayed off freeways as much as I could and didn't do any off-road stuff, using Metzeler street tires. Wind was a definite problem especially going through Wyoming - the longest day of my life was battling the heat and wind from the Grand Tetons to Rawlins. I would've liked a little more power because I was on a schedule. My bike did the job admirably with one glitch... after a long day through the desert heat on the return leg, I reached a motel and the bike quit and wouldn't start. The nearest BMW dealer was over 150 miles away in Salt Lake City. Next morning, after a few troubleshooting ideas, the problem was solved by rapping the carbs with a wrench - fired right up (which shouldn't be an issue with the new 650). I think if you're going to use a small bike to do a long journey, the BMW 650 is the answer... just ask this guy. He did 90,000 miles on his.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002691677_biker19m.html

[riderR1150GSAdv]

If you want long distance riding, go over to the Adventure website http://www.advrider.com/forums/ and look for 'Stricking Viking bumming the world' thread. Glenn has been riding a F650 around for quite a while.

[kbasa]

If you want long distance riding, go over to the Adventure website http://www.advrider.com/forums/ and look for 'Stricking Viking bumming the world' thread. Glenn has been riding a F650 around for quite a while.

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If you book club guys are looking for another book to read, try Two Wheels through Terror, SV's book.

[username]

:nod

If you book club guys are looking for another book to read, try Two Wheels through Terror, SV's book.

i'll second that one. that book will give you pause, and will also entertain you.

[denInTo]

I rode my 2004 F650GS from Toronto Canada to Denver Co and back.5000miles and it only demanded 1/2 a quart of oil.Some of this mileage was through 100 degrees F in Kansas.

The bike is very comfortable,even if you ride it 15 hrs a day.
It does a lot better on small roads than highway.
You may need a better than the stock windshield ( i have a ceebaileys and I am happy with it).

I've also taken the single fro Toronto to Washington, West Virginia, Boston.
Point it and go. Avoid Interstate and you'll do well. On the highways it'll take 75-80 all day.

Can't tell you much about dirt road.

Call when you're here

I am considering an F650GS and was wondering how they handle long trips. Are they comfortable to ride. Do they work well at freeway speeds for extended periods. Duribility? I have an R1150RT right now and like the bike but I want something I can ride on unimproved roads and fire-trails as well as the freeway. I was also considering the R1200GS but I think it might be a little too heavy for some of the terrain that I want to ride on. Any help would be apprceiated.
Gary

[JuanManuel]

I've made 10K miles (Over 6 mos.) on my 2003 F 650 GS without any discomfort nor break. Its performance is amazing on/off road.

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