I couldn't let this SLIDE.............

[BubbaZanetti]

from Pelican Parts "S" Forum...............

going........
http://www.roadrashed.com/Track%20Pics%20and%20others/harley_looking%20good.jpg

going........
http://www.roadrashed.com/Track%20Pics%20and%20others/harley_not%20looking%20good.jpg

goodbye.........
http://www.roadrashed.com/Track%20Pics%20and%20others/harley_going%20down.jpg


the "point" in the first picture is priceless

[knary]

Fortunately none of us have ever tried to ride beyond our abilities or our bike's limitations.


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[BubbaZanetti]

Fortunately none of us have ever tried to ride beyond our abilities or our bike's limitations.


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i generally try to have a jacket on when i'm doing it :jose

[username]

i always try to make a really cool hand sign just before i crash. :huh

i hope that guy was ok, but dang, what an a$$hat.

[Bob_M]

you can almost see daylight under the front tire on the middle picture. I guess that is the part that gets levered off the pavement when hard parts scrape. That one leg in the air shot is more undignified than the first "back at cha" wave was cool.

I will never again feel guilty when I am to busy to wave (Real Beemer riders give a subtle nod that is little more than a hint of an inference)

[Belquar]

At least there is a HD rider out there willing to lean his bike, even if it is to smell his own a$$!!!

[PacWestGS]

Hey come on give the guy a break, He's got on HD Brand: helmet, glasses, gloves (fingerless), t-shirt and riding boots, I can't tell in the pictures provided if those are 'Draggin' Jeans' or not so at least he's ATGATT. :dance

I'm getting the feeling the guy with camera is a friend, that sucks. :doh

[dzimbric]

I think that is going to leave a mark, or maybe remove one. Check out the look on his face as he puckers so tight all the slack goes out of his lips in the second shot.

HD Motorcyle $20,000.00
Cool boots $150.00
Photos Priceless

[basketcase]

There did not appear to be a semi behind or in front of him.

By now, the scars are healing and it's a road tale.

[PacWestGS]

If he had attended a certified MSF-ERC he would have known to climb on to the highside of the bike and rode it out, insted of that less than graceful exit onto the pavement. :violin

[knary]

i generally try to have a jacket on when i'm doing it :jose


But the difference between riding with gear vs. riding without gear isn't necessarily that big. Both are relatively high risk activities.

I'm just trying to rain on the "Look at the stupid Harley guy. Real men wear cordura." parade. :evil

[PacWestGS]

I'm a darn good amateur (two-years training) photographer, knary you are too. Explain to me why in the second shot his front tire is not spinning? Shutter speed and all every other shot in the sequence have both wheels spinning except the one where he's crashing. I wonder how much he got paid for that stunt. Not enough to hear the pain I'm sure, but who hasn't low-sided like that before, I have I just wear full-length gloves and a real helmet. Later in life after doing the ‘Road Rash’ thing a couple times, I started wearing M/C jackets and pants.

[lorazepam]

I'm a darn good amateur (two-years training) photographer, knary you are too. Explain to me why in the second shot his front tire is not spinning? Shutter speed and all every other shot in the sequence have both wheels spinning except the one where he's crashing. I wonder how much he got paid for that stunt. Not enough to hear the pain I'm sure, but who hasn't low-sided like that before, I have I just wear full-length gloves and a real helmet. Later in life after doing the ‘Road Rash’ thing a couple times, I started wearing M/C jackets and pants.

I think the dude just grabbed both levers and a big chunk of seat before he fell off. That is why the front wheel isnt spinning.

[BubbaZanetti]

oh man!

why didn't i title this "I couldn't let this SLIDE............."

"but this guy could"


lolzzzzzzzzzz

[knary]

I'm a darn good amateur (two-years training) photographer, knary you are too. Explain to me why in the second shot his front tire is not spinning? Shutter speed and all every other shot in the sequence have both wheels spinning except the one where he's crashing.

Simple. He locked the front wheel. You'll note that in the final shot the wheel is spinning; his hands are no longer at the controls. :uhoh

[PacWestGS]

Simple. He locked the front wheel. You'll note that in the final shot the wheel is spinning; his hands are no longer at the controls. :uhoh


OK, Loraz and knary, but he's only covering the clutch with one finger, not a 'panic' grab. I could buy the "he freaked and grabbed the front brake, but would any one here do that on a low-side", maybe by accident, but I'd be thinking get the floor-boards off the ground, straighten up the bike and then stop. I've ridden a Harley and dragged the boards not a pretty sight or sound but definitely recoverable.

Next part of the theory, why are each of the frames so centered, I've shot a lot of film with motor-drives and video, and you have to be pretty good to keep the action in the frame. If you are some one taking pictures of your friends riding the twisties and he just biffed in front you, would you be prepared to follow the action? OR, watch the spectacle in awe?

[BubbaZanetti]

If you are some one taking pictures of your friends riding the twisties and he just biffed in front you, would you be prepared to follow the action? OR, watch the spectacle in awe?


i've seen photos from this exact spot before, i think it might be at deals gap or something, perhaps stills from dv cam or something that you pay a fee to record the action as you ride by................

[knary]

OK, Loraz and knary, but he's only covering the clutch with one finger, not a 'panic' grab. I could buy the "he freaked and grabbed the front brake, but would any one here do that on a low-side", maybe by accident, but I'd be thinking get the floor-boards off the ground, straighten up the bike and then stop. I've ridden a Harley and dragged the boards not a pretty sight or sound but definitely recoverable.

Next part of the theory, why are each of the frames so centered, I've shot a lot of film with motor-drives and video, and you have to be pretty good to keep the action in the frame. If you are some one taking pictures of your friends riding the twisties and he just biffed in front you, would you be prepared to follow the action? OR, watch the spectacle in awe?

What I imagined happened:

1. He's looking really farging cool. The coolest he's ever looked. Damn, he feels good.

2. These shots are, IIRC, from the Dragon. Some high quality photographers set up shop down there and snap away as the bikes go by. They know how to get these kinds of shots (the kind I can't get with my cameras :cry). With the perfectly garbed man on the oh so cool Harley coming towards him, the photographer gets the shots lined up.

3. Spotting the camera pointing at him, he looks over and gives the coolest wave. Did I mention how cool he looked? Seeing the camera snapping a shot of him looking his best just made his day.

4. Oh, wait. That's a real curve. Look where you're going! Oh. GOD. oh god oh god. He panics. He tries to lean the bike over. It's leaning, but he's scared. He doesn't know if he can do it. He grabs the front brake. He's so freaked, he doesn't even think to reach for the clutch. Did I mention that Mr.Cool is a new rider? Having already eaten up most of his traction with the lean, he uses way too much front brake.

5. With the front wheel locked, the bike starts the low-slide. The boards come down, the front wheel levers up, and there isn't going to be any recovering. At this point, the camera man takes the second shot. The front wheel is still locked.

6. He's done. Over he goes.

7. Pictures get posted on the internet.

[basketcase]

When he grabbed both levers and killed speed and power, he responded just the opposite of what was needed, and guaranteed that flopping off head first was about as good as it would get.

A hard shot of throttle and solid pressure on the right handlebar at the first moment he felt it "falling" might have spared him the crash.

[PacWestGS]

What I imagined happened:

1. He's looking really farging cool. The coolest he's ever looked. Damn, he feels good.

2. These shots are, IIRC, from the Dragon. Some high quality photographers set up shop down there and snap away as the bikes go by. They know how to get these kinds of shots (the kind I can't get with my cameras :cry). With the perfectly garbed man on the oh so cool Harley coming towards him, the photographer gets the shots lined up.

3. Spotting the camera pointing at him, he looks over and gives the coolest wave. Did I mention how cool he looked? Seeing the camera snapping a shot of him looking his best just made his day.

4. Oh, wait. That's a real curve. Look where you're going! Oh. GOD. oh god oh god. He panics. He tries to lean the bike over. It's leaning, but he's scared. He doesn't know if he can do it. He grabs the front brake. He's so freaked, he doesn't even think to reach for the clutch. Did I mention that Mr.Cool is a new rider? Having already eaten up most of his traction with the lean, he uses way too much front brake.

5. With the front wheel locked, the bike starts the low-slide. The boards come down, the front wheel levers up, and there isn't going to be any recovering. At this point, the camera man takes the second shot. The front wheel is still locked.

6. He's done. Over he goes.

7. Pictures get posted on the internet.

:ha :ha :rofl :lol :bliss :laugh

And there we have it folks the story line that goes with three frames of 'Glory'

Man that was funny.... Thanks Scott

[2popfire]

We are going over this like the Zapruder film!
Frame 2 looks to me as if he was on the front brake as he started into the turn, but as the bike began to lever up, the front tire locked and began to slide. Of course by then this guys bacon was pretty well cooked. I can't believe this was a stunt, I mean who would DO such a thing?? With what he is wearing this must have HURT!! Not to mention a $20,000 motorcycle in the rocks. I must agree that those photos ARE perfectly centered, not the kind an amateur watching his buddy crash would take. There are though several places where you can get a pro to snap your pic as you roll through the twistys, maybe this is one.
The Warren Commission
;)

[BradfordBenn]

oh man!

why didn't i title this "I couldn't let this SLIDE............."

"but this guy could"


lolzzzzzzzzzz

Hmmm I thought you did :brad

[SheRidesABeemer]

Would we be laughing if the bike had more plastic on it and the rider had a full faced helmet and full 'stitch? Is the accident amusing cause he's not one of us? Would those things given him better riding skills? I wince at this picture, it's a rider down. And that should give us all pause. "We" are not better than "them".

[campari]

Would we be laughing if the bike had more plastic on it and the rider had a full faced helmet and full 'stitch? Is the accident amusing cause he's not one of us?

no and yes...

[BeemoKat]

I think those shots are from www.killboy.com

[Visian]

Deal's Gap is so out of control.

Having photographers there is just one more example of why. Putting a shooter in front of people just makes them do even more crazy stuff.

I've been passed there on the inside by guys wearing titanium knee pucks, riding non-licensed Supermoto bikes with full slicks. Unreal.

This place is to be avoided like the plague on the weekends. It is, however, a fantastic ride on weekdays.

I sorta feel bad for this Harley dude... maybe he has more money than sense, but hes get-off is more sad than funny.

Ian

[Braddog]

When he grabbed both levers and killed speed and power, he responded just the opposite of what was needed, and guaranteed that flopping off head first was about as good as it would get.

A hard shot of throttle and solid pressure on the right handlebar at the first moment he felt it "falling" might have spared him the crash.

When in doubt, gas it.

I don't think the series of pics is funny at all. As riders, we all deal with RUB's on Harley's, and RUB's on Beemers as well. I consider RUB's all in the same class. I've had guys on new R1200GS's and new, shiny stiff Roadcrafter's give me an "eye roll" when I pull up on my old airhead. Bottom line is that the same guy on the shiny new R1200GS probably couldn't have taken that turn any better. Who knows? We don't even know the history of the guy except that he probably suffered some injuries, and a very nice, expensive motorcycle likely needed some spendy repairs.

Too often people are gear Nazi's when it comes to situations like this. In my opinion, that's not the best lesson here. The best lesson would be knowing how to go into a turn, how to look through a turn, and how to adjust your line if need be.
I think Knary nails the story pretty well with his "7 steps" in the previous post. Too bad, a nice motorcycle and probably a nice rider most likely did NOT walk or ride away unscathed. :(

[PacWestGS]

Funny {EDIT: (yes) :cry it's funny because people do stupid things when being filmed, it's taught to us from a young age :dunno } and no, stupid yes, staged; that would be an overstated truth. If show boating or being an exhibitionist for the camera by dragging your pegs, knees or asking you pillion to drag their unprotected knees to take home a beauty of an 8'x10', then you deserve every moment of pain you suffer. And, I'm not sorry for this rider, because his $25,000 crash and subsequent hospital bill probably has something to do with 'our' insurance rates. So is all the new rage over stupid stunts on video that gets people 'Riders' killed.

Do I pop a wheelie on my GS every now and then you bet I do, when “No one is around to care”.

When I see some rider going down the freeway at 70 riding a wheelie on their bike past regular people that vote I cringe at the thought of having my ‘Privilege’ to ride taken away someday.

Someone’s signature quote here: (“If you don’t believe in Einstein, you better believe in Darwin”)

As a community we better police our own because if we do not, none of us will be riding two-wheeled contraptions in the future. There dangerous, haven't you heard?

[Callmethebreeze]

I wish you could have caught more of his facial expression in the middle pic. I suspect it was of the panic mode variety. I hope the guy is healing well. No sleeves, that's got to smart.

Breeze

[BubbaZanetti]

Would we be laughing if the bike had more plastic on it and the rider had a full faced helmet and full 'stitch? Is the accident amusing cause he's not one of us? Would those things given him better riding skills? I wince at this picture, it's a rider down. And that should give us all pause. "We" are not better than "them".

Funny {EDIT: (yes) :cry it's funny because people do stupid things when being filmed, it's taught to us from a young age :dunno } and no, stupid yes, staged; that would be an overstated truth. If show boating or being an exhibitionist for the camera by dragging your pegs, knees or asking you pillion to drag their unprotected knees to take home a beauty of an 8'x10', then you deserve every moment of pain you suffer. And, I'm not sorry for this rider, because his $25,000 crash and subsequent hospital bill probably has something to do with 'our' insurance rates. So is all the new rage over stupid stunts on video that gets people 'Riders' killed.



after looking at these pictures these were my two thoughs. do i feel bad, or do i get mad??? on one hand, gail is right, the dude is a fellow rider and a fellow human being, and he is clearly being injured, no matter how unprepared or foolish he may be. who knows, the guy could have been a great rider having a bad day. at the same time, i can't help but feel angry for the thought that he probably IS brand new to the sport (or "fad", as it is for many people) and has probably bought into the whole b$^&#@it poser lifestyle embraced by so many weekend warriors, and doesn't take his riding seriously. these are the kind of people that get others hurt, either with stupid tricks, showing off or riding drunk...........

compasion vs concern

[1flyer]

The report from Killboy (yes it was on the gap) over on the K1200LT site is he picked up the bike and rode away. No major injury and nothing broken bad on the bike.

[username]

i'd like to talk to the guy and see what 'lessons learned' he has. and i still hope he is ok with no serious injuries.

[jmerlino]

after looking at these pictures these were my two thoughs. do i feel bad, or do i get mad??? on one hand, gail is right, the dude is a fellow rider and a fellow human being, and he is clearly being injured, no matter how unprepared or foolish he may be. who knows, the guy could have been a great rider having a bad day. at the same time, i can't help but feel angry for the thought that he probably IS brand new to the sport (or "fad", as it is for many people) and has probably bought into the whole b$^&#@it poser lifestyle embraced by so many weekend warriors, and doesn't take his riding seriously. these are the kind of people that get others hurt, either with stupid tricks, showing off or riding drunk...........

compasion vs concern

It's a different story looking at pictures then when it happens in real life. Case in point: On my way home from the Vermont rally, I came upon a bunch of Harleys pulled over on the side of the road. One guy was down, and in obvious pain. I pulled over, and one of the guys told me that he'd gone wide in a turn, ran off the road and crashed. He appeard to have a broken leg, but was otherwise okay. After being assured that they had everything in hand, and that there was nothing they needed me to do, I rode off. I wasn't thinking "ha ha, stupid Harley guys,", "damn RUBs" or anything like that, because you know what? I've gone wide in turns, and it's only by luck that I haven't gone off the road or been hit by an oncoming car. That could just as easily have been me.

We were all new to riding at some point, and I would wager that every single one of us has had a close call, or pulled a stupid move. You can read all you want, and you can take all the courses you want, but the only real way to learn physical skills is to get out there and do it, and you are going to make mistakes.

When you look at a sequence of pictures like this, you don't know anything about that guy. All you see is the Harley gear, and the guy trying his level best to look damn cool, and it's easy to laugh at him, because you've never tried to look cool, right?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the distance from the event that's afforded by the medium takes away some of the empathy and leaves the comedy. If you'd seen this in real life, you probably wouldn't laugh at it. (At least I don't think I would.)

[basketcase]

It's easy to laugh at him, because you've never tried to look cool, right?You didn't have to get so personal about it! :brow

[GeoffMiller]

I don't have to try to look cool because I know that I AM cool! :D I mean, really, how could a fat, bald, old guy in bibs not be cool? :nyah

[PacWestGS]

We were all new to riding at some point, and I would wager that every single one of us has had a close call, or pulled a stupid move. You can read all you want, and you can take all the courses you want, but the only real way to learn physical skills is to get out there and do it, and you are going to make mistakes.



In regard to any miss-representation of my opinion, it doesn't matter if you're a 'RUB' and weekend warrior, a Rounder, or your last name ends in Roberts, Carr, Duhamel, or Rainey.

"There are two kinds of riders: Those who have crashed and those who will, again."

I've always had my problems on the road (bike/car) when I was paying less attention to the task at hand than I should have been. Thankfully they have been few and I walked away, I little broken, a little scraped and a little smarter for having the experience.

As for the rider in question, it’s good to hear he was OK, I’ll bet the lesson he learned was wear the gear ATT, and ride for the crash, enjoy the fun.

Russ

P.S. Just a side note and one a good friend of mine got to share with me one day while riding his brand new VFR 750, as he watched me (on my GPZ900) go laterally across a long patch of oil in a turn right in front of him. (I didn’t low-side, whew) and we both continued the ride for 15 miles before stopping.

I wonder what the look was on his buddies face riding behind the spark shower. I’ll bet it was worse than frame #2?

[jmerlino]

just to clarify - I wasn't addressing anyone in particular with my most. I was using the rhetorical "you".

[username]

my limited experience has shown me that what is cool to a BMW enthusiast is not the same thing as whats cool to a guy who rides harleys. there are exceptions of course. to me, it's cool to be ATGATT. when i see a guy wearing a stich, i think he looks cool.

hi viz vests? cool. white helmets? cool. full face helmets? cool. full-fingered gloves? cool. armored boots? cool. 3/4 length jackets? cool. armored pants? cool. quiet bikes? cool. black or dull components on a bike? cool. riding sober? cool. riding in rain? cool. riding during the week? cool. chiding my friends for not wearing protective gear? cool. complimenting them when they do? cool. riding slowly when visibility is bad, just to be safe? cool. reflective tape on saddlebags? cool.

i've got friends with HD's and when we talk about this stuff, they disagree. we don't share the same ideas of cool, we don't ride together, but we're good friends just the same. that's cool too.

[YB in IN]

I think those shots are from www.killboy.com

Yup, I have pictures of myself at the same place.

[knary]

hi viz vests? cool. white helmets? cool. full face helmets? cool. full-fingered gloves? cool. armored boots? cool. 3/4 length jackets? cool. armored pants? cool. quiet bikes? cool. black or dull components on a bike? cool. riding sober? cool. riding in rain? cool. riding during the week? cool. chiding my friends for not wearing protective gear? cool. complimenting them when they do? cool. riding slowly when visibility is bad, just to be safe? cool. reflective tape on saddlebags? cool..



http://www.conary.org/bike/assets/trip/salmon_big/IMG_3671.jpg

[username]

knary? cool.

[PacWestGS]

my limited experience -- but we're good friends just the same. that's cool too.


Username, that's cool. :)

One success at a time. Where or who did you learn all that experience? :thumb

[Hodag]

Would we be laughing if the bike had more plastic on it and the rider had a full faced helmet and full 'stitch? Is the accident amusing cause he's not one of us? Would those things given him better riding skills? I wince at this picture, it's a rider down. And that should give us all pause. "We" are not better than "them".

I paused and thought about it. Felt kinda bad.

Then I emailed the photos to all my harley buddies.

[knary]

I paused and thought about it. Felt kinda bad.

Then I emailed the photos to all my harley buddies.


:nod


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[Belquar]

Some time reading the book Total Control would have taught him to hang off and use less lean angle in such a turn.

Great book. Great techniques. Total Control by Lee Parks.

[boofer]

Absativley, one of my co-workers rides a Road King, hangs off in turns, and can stay with me. Just good technique will work wonders, regardless what you ride.

So you say keeping up with me is no biggy......?


Tim

[Callmethebreeze]

I paused and thought about it. Felt kinda bad.

Then I emailed the photos to all my harley buddies.


Are you sure that you aren't twins posting under the same name? You know, Jekyll, Hyde etc....?

[Callmethebreeze]

i'd like to talk to the guy and see what 'lessons learned' he has. and i still hope he is ok with no serious injuries.


This is a page right out of Dave Hough's last BTE column.

Breeze :bolt

[Hodag]

Are you sure that you aren't twins posting under the same name? You know, Jekyll, Hyde etc....?


can you explain?

[Callmethebreeze]

I paused and thought about it. Felt kinda bad.

This is the good Mark. Dr. Jekyll


Then I emailed the photos to all my harley buddies.
This is the evil Mark. Mr. Hyde.



breeze

[PacWestGS]

I have just one more negative comment about this issue. :banghead

Have you ever wondered why "Those" riders say 'Helmets' are worthless, why should "we" have to wear them? :fight

Well if you had his nose and that helmet you can see why they think helmets are worthless... :violin



I'm happy to say that I have started to see V-Rod riders using some of HD's better Gear; to include Arai marketed full-face helmets that have the HD colors and Logo, and their leathers are getting better at handling the weather thrown at them. :thumb (But, you still have to use it) :idea

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[BradfordBenn]

Would we be laughing if the bike had more plastic on it and the rider had a full faced helmet and full 'stitch? Is the accident amusing cause he's not one of us? Would those things given him better riding skills? I wince at this picture, it's a rider down. And that should give us all pause. "We" are not better than "them".

I think a lot of us "laugh" at it for the same reason, cause it could have just as easily been us. It is discomfort and a chance for us to feel "better" cause it ain't us.

However you are right, it sucks no matter who or why it happens to. However there is also a certain amount of personal responsibility at play here. I don't feel as sorry for people who do stupid things to themselves, as people who have stupid things happen to them. For example, if someone was to get hit by a car while they are crossing the street, I will feel sorry for them. If it happened to them cause they were crossing against the light, they have some personal liability. They chose to take a dangerous action, however they could have waited for the light to change and mitigated the risk.

Yes, it sucks either way but there is some personal choices and repercussions at play here.

[Hodag]

One of my english teachers always said the difference between humer and tragedy is just small details

Tragedy=someone gets hit while crossing the street by a large object

Humor=someone gets hit while crossing the street by a large object, the large object was an elephant that jumped out of a window

[Braddog]

One of my english teachers always said the difference between humer and tragedy is just small details

Tragedy=someone gets hit while crossing the street by a large object

Humor=someone gets hit while crossing the street by a large object, the large object was an elephant that jumped out of a window

If I fall down, it's a tragedy.

If you fall down, it's a comedy.
:buds

[campari]

has anyone ever watched 'funniest home videos' or whatever that show is called? 99% of it is people getting hurt one way or another, sometimes rather painfully at that. people find that type of thing funny, pure and simple. now, why are these photos funny to me? not because he fell (i've seen other videos/photos of motorcycle crashes and did not find them funny at all), not because he is on a harley either. it's that 'i'm cool' pointing gesture that's the kicker, and then the humbling result. 'pride comes before a fall' as they say, sometimes even literally...

[jmerlino]

it's that 'i'm cool' pointing gesture that's the kicker, and then the humbling result. 'pride comes before a fall' as they say, sometimes even literally...

Yes, I admit that this makes me laugh as well. It's funny seeing someone's "cool act" get punctured. OTOH, I've certainly done "I'm cool" things before, so I can't get too high and mighty about it.

[PacWestGS]

Yes, I admit that this makes me laugh as well. It's funny seeing someone's "cool act" get punctured. OTOH, I've certainly done "I'm cool" things before, so I can't get too high and mighty about it.

Ditto. BTDT

I found it amusing at first because he was being cool and crashed. Then I found it funny when I thought he was getting paid to lay his bike down in front of the camera for one of those biker stunts. Now that I know he was actually paying someone to take his picture being cool, I find that hilarious... :dance

I’m glad the guy didn’t get hurt too bad and that he didn’t destroy his bike, but when you make a Sh_t-sandwich expect to eat crap.

I hope he has the nads to make that whole sequence at least 18x24 and hangs them on his wall (of shame) with pride.

Now, if I was riding along the road and saw this guy choose to wave at me or another rider and then hit a patch of sand, or oil and go down. I wouldn't find that amusing at all. So I guess it's perspective, everything has its place

[GeoffMiller]

"Yes, I admit that this makes me laugh as well. It's funny seeing someone's "cool act" get punctured. OTOH, I've certainly done "I'm cool" things before, so I can't get too high and mighty about it."

I thought the same thing at first blush however now knowing that a photographer who does this for a business was at that corner kind of changes things for me. If the riders intention was to purchase a photo of himself for the wall of his garage or whatever, of course he is going to strike a pose of some sort. One question could be raised as to why a manufacturer is allowed to make a machine which drags bottom at such a relatively slight lean angle. Seems like we may be being a little self rightous here! If beemer riders are such experts, how come places like BMW Re-Psycle even exist?

[BubbaZanetti]

looking at the picture again,

perhaps he was identifying camera location for the rider behind him??

[Visian]

looking at the pictuer again,

perhaps he was identifying camera location for the rider behind him??

Unlikely. There are people who sit at known locations taking pictures of bikes riding the gap.

Then they go back to the Crossroads of Time and try to sell them to the riders. And post them on e-commerce sites. (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventthumbs?event=04RK005E0I&b=0&t=-1&start=0&password=)

http://www.killboy.com/

http://tailofthedragon.com/

Deals Gap is getting to be a good-sized business. I first rode it in 1978, on my first long tour on my first BMW... an R90/6. I thought I was in heaven. I hate going there now (on weekends, that is....)

Ian

[username]

looking at the pictuer again,

perhaps he was identifying camera location for the rider behind him??

or maybe he thought he was a longhorn? too bad he rides like an aggie. :D

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[Cliffy777]

Yes, I admit that this makes me laugh as well. It's funny seeing someone's "cool act" get punctured. OTOH, I've certainly done "I'm cool" things before, so I can't get too high and mighty about it.
I know what you mean. About 4 years ago we were out in Yellowstone in the winter. (Cool place to be. -20 degrees with steam pouring out of the earth, it was like being on a different planet.)
Anyway we rented snowmobiles for the day to tour around the park. We needed gas and there was a looooong line to get it. After I topped off my tank I took off from the pump sitting sideways on the seat and was hot dogging it (so I thought anyway) in front of Julie and the kids. I gassed it hard and tipped the dang thing over in front of them and about 80 other sleds waiting for gas.
Yup, I was one badda$$ snowmobile dude. Uh-huh. I am thankful no one in our group had a camera. (Who knows, maybe there are pics on the web somewhere titled Dufus on a Sled.)
FWIW - I did have on my helmet and all that other crud. I almost kissed the guy at the rental place when he let me slide after I showed him the scrapes on the side of the sled and mirror. I was expecting to get hammered for a couple hundred bucks on the old VISA.