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enjine
09-28-2005, 10:42 AM
Hello everyone,
I've been riding motorcycles for about 5 years now, have only owned one bike--a '95 honda nighthawk 750--and have now moved on from there to a beautiful BMW R1100 RL. Walking around Boston's Beacon Hill and staring at all of those old boxers was what originally got me to take the plunge years ago and buy a motorcycle in the first place. Now I have my own BMW, and this is my first impression of it.

But first a short back story...
My buddy, who has never driven a motorcycle in his life, bought a great old '67 Moto Guzzi this summer. He wanted to get in to riding, and I helped him pick out a bike that suited his style. Well, after looking at hundreds of bikes on Ebay, Cycletrader, and other websites, I'd found the bike for him. After he bought it, I kept looking at all of the sites to see what I would like if I were to buy a new bike. I knew it would be a BMW, but which one?
I thought a late 70's boxer at first. I tried one out even. I was set on a '77 R100 at one point, but it was expensive and far away. I waited. Eventually I realized that what I wanted was something more modern than one of those old boxers, coming from a japanese bike, but something still with the feel of the bike being classic. I saw an R1100 RL on the street one day here in Manhattan and I literally drove my motorcycle onto the sidewalk and back down the one-way street to go look at it. I knew from then on, that was the bike i wanted. I found a few online, waited longer, found some more, then found a great deal on a bare bike on ibmwr.org.

I immediately sold my old bike, flew down to VA and bought the bike. That gave me about 400 miles of getting to know the bike as I took my time driving home through backroads and a short bit of interstate 95. Here are some things that struck me:

- The engine.
The engine sounds like an old boxer, but it's on this futuristic-style frame. I can't say how perfect that is. It has the warm and chunky rhythm that I want to hear. Starting it up cold is a bit of a task, as with say an R100, but when it BANGs and turns over, it's very gratifying. My Guzzi friend was especially relieved at this too.

- The seating position
Very up front. I readjusted the height twice to see if that would do anything. I'd expected more of a cruiser-style position towards the back because the driver seat has that big lip in the back, but no.. the position is up against the tank, almost like a sport bike. Very strange. I might get a new seat, but I'm going to give it some time first. Any suggestions on *comfortable* seats out there?

- The controls
ABS, check. Heated Grips, check. Fuel Level, check (how cool--no more odometer guessing).
I love the dash controls, but the handlebar switches, i think, were not build for human ergonomics. I'm not sure who they expect to be driving these things, but the blinker switches, the blinke cut off especially, the horn and the lights are all so unnatural to my hands, that I have to look at them pretty much every time i need to use them. I think these controls might be my only complaint about the bike. They expect you to dig your thumb in + under the handlebar and then push *UP*?? Too weird for me.
The handlebars themselves are also positioned just a bit inward, instead of straight. This made my wrists ache noticibly.

- The Torque.
Jesus. I could be going 80 mph, and twist the throttle a bit more and jump forward to 90. This bike has so much torque that I do it just for fun. And the sound/feel of the engine when it pushes like that is extremely gratifying. That being said, the RPMs at 80 mph are at 4.3k. Is that normal? Seems a little high for a 1100cc bike.

- The transmission.
Whoah. Shifting gears is now a task. Kick it in to first, and you can hear it a block away. Trying to find neutral is an 80/20 prospect, and downshifting from 5th through the gears must be done slowly. I've read some other posts about tapping on the gear shifter lightly when downshifting and going between the gears. I've experienced this too, but I think I just have to get used to the switch a bit more. It sure isn't a Honda.

- 5.5 Gal tank.
Bigger is always better. This is a great size tank for my needs.

- Classic Style.
I drove up through New Hope PA on Sunday for a bite to eat with my girlfriend. If you've ever been to New Hope, you know that the main street there will fill up with 50 or more Harleys. THe bikes just roll in and out all day long. That makes for a good amount of gawkers who walk by and eye up all of the bikes. Pulling in with this beautiful classic (black with white pinstripes) bike, I ate lunch at an outdoor joint and watched as people stopped by my bike when passing the Harleys, and stare.

All-in-All, this bike is just perfect for me, and if any of the above are complaints, they are minute and stick out in my head only because the bike as a whole is just so great. This particular bike has seen a lot of action--72k miles on purchase with the first owner having driven to Alaska. Hopefully I can take the bike back to Alaska someday too. It doesn't drive anything like what I'd expect that much milage to drive like, and I think it will go 300,000 more.

Cliffy777
09-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Great choice. I bought a "demo" R1100 RL from GR BMW 4 years ago. Loved it. Loved the seating position. I didn't have the ABS model. It was a coolio bike, but when I saw the Rockster.......it was love at first sight!
Happy trails and welcome to the monkey house.

MarkF
09-28-2005, 07:39 PM
Great choice!

1) The seat is not comfortable (IMHO) and the Sargent seat looks much better. Also see Wunderlich and Bill Mayer Saddles.

2) It's not really a 5.5 gallon tank. More like 4.9 gallons. I know!

3) Just twist the throttle a tiny bit when starting. When it catches bring it up to 2,000+ RPM for a minute then ride off with the choke on. A few blocks later turn the choke off. It won't idle until warmed up (or add a throttle lock).

4) Ride it in the 4,000 - 5,500 RPM range and you will not be disappointed. :german

BradfordBenn
09-28-2005, 07:59 PM
Very cool. Welcome to the fun.

enjine
09-28-2005, 10:07 PM
Thanks MarkF, I'll check out those seats.
I have had a Cobin before, but didn't like it at all.

let me just say, this place is awesome.
and when after you login it says "thank you for logging in, username", is really cool too.

now to plan my weekend trip to the adirondacks (or however you spell it) :)

jacco
09-29-2005, 09:25 AM
Enjine, welcome! All your remarks sounds pretty typical. You'll get used to most of these 'features'. But I strongly agree with you on the blinker cancel switch issue. I did a few 500 mile days on mine (2000 R1100R) this year, and the only thing that really hurt like hell was my right thumb from canceling the turn signal. MarkF, can you really squeeze 4.9 gallons in yours? I never managed to get more than 4.4 gallons in it, and I always put it on the center stand and fill it until the gas reaches the filler neck. But the day I managed to put 4.4 gallons in it the bike was acutally sputtering when going up a long hill on I-66, 3 miles from the gas station... But you're right I guess, specs say 21 l, so about 5.5 US gallons...

Jacco

enjine
09-29-2005, 10:00 AM
Well, the reserve is supposed to be a whopping 1.1 gallons... which, unless you run it all the way through, would mean that it would be normal to be putting around 4.5 gallons in it--right? My previous bike took 4.8 gallons with .8 of it being reserve, and this tank is certainly larger than that bike. I'll keep my eyes on that when I fill it up over the next few weeks. I also noticed my mileage was inconsistant... one leg of the trip i got almost 180 miles before hitting the reserve light. Then the next leg I got only 150 or so. Pretty big difference there, not sure what's going on.

lorazepam
09-29-2005, 10:21 AM
Well, the reserve is supposed to be a whopping 1.1 gallons... which, unless you run it all the way through, would mean that it would be normal to be putting around 4.5 gallons in it--right? My previous bike took 4.8 gallons with .8 of it being reserve, and this tank is certainly larger than that bike. I'll keep my eyes on that when I fill it up over the next few weeks. I also noticed my mileage was inconsistant... one leg of the trip i got almost 180 miles before hitting the reserve light. Then the next leg I got only 150 or so. Pretty big difference there, not sure what's going on.

Different gas gives me different mileage. Windspeed and direction play a part in it too.

jacco
09-29-2005, 10:39 AM
Well, the reserve is supposed to be a whopping 1.1 gallons... which, unless you run it all the way through, would mean that it would be normal to be putting around 4.5 gallons in it--right? My previous bike took 4.8 gallons with .8 of it being reserve, and this tank is certainly larger than that bike. I'll keep my eyes on that when I fill it up over the next few weeks. I also noticed my mileage was inconsistant... one leg of the trip i got almost 180 miles before hitting the reserve light. Then the next leg I got only 150 or so. Pretty big difference there, not sure what's going on.

When my light comes on I can only add about 3.5 gallons. Maybe there's a dead cat in my tank?!? So I normally ride with the light on for 25-35 miles to add about 4 gallons. Thus 180 miles sounds sounds pretty similar to my experiences, assuming that you got about 50 mpg. I get slightly better than 50 mpg when doing long streches at 50-55 mph, my overall score so far is 46.5 mpg over 8k miles. But that contains some pretty lousy sub-40 mpg tanks last winter after I first got the bike. Combination of short trips in the cold plus the fact that the bike had ran less than 8k miles in the first 4.5 years of its life. By the way, it seems that you can fill the tank more consistently when it's on the center stand. Did you fill it when the bike was on the side stand? Maybe the gas station was on a slope the second time you got gas?

MarkF, how much gas can you add when the light comes on? Or anyone else out there with a R850/1100R?

Thanks,
Jacco

enjine
09-29-2005, 10:59 AM
jacco,

actually i stay on the bike when i'm filling it up, and balance it between my legs evenly as i pump the gas. center stand is probably a better idea, but i'm still getting used to yanking the bike up on it at this point :)

btw, i need to get some hard system cases (full, not city) and was wondering if all of the system cases that are marked for R1100 have the smaller left case because of the exhaust. Or are there system cases that are evenly sized but won't fit my bike? Just don't want to get something that's not going to work for me.

enjine
09-29-2005, 10:59 AM
...oh and i think i can add about 4 gallons when the light comes on.

jacco
09-29-2005, 11:11 AM
Yes, you need the smaller left case. Is the same case as for the R1100GS. Right case is the same for all bikes I think (pls correct me if I'm wrong guys).

Jacco



jacco,

actually i stay on the bike when i'm filling it up, and balance it between my legs evenly as i pump the gas. center stand is probably a better idea, but i'm still getting used to yanking the bike up on it at this point :)

btw, i need to get some hard system cases (full, not city) and was wondering if all of the system cases that are marked for R1100 have the smaller left case because of the exhaust. Or are there system cases that are evenly sized but won't fit my bike? Just don't want to get something that's not going to work for me.

bluemoon
09-29-2005, 11:15 AM
Check out the flasher replacement made by Kisan Technologies www.kisantech.com. It is a direct replacement for your Delphi unit,plugs right in. This unit will automaticly shut off your turn signal,it has 3 time spans,8-30-45 seconds. It will also let you program your turn signals as running lights,at either 1/2 intensity or full intensity. Another feature is that if you manually cancel your signal, it is done with the same button that you turned it on with. If you hold your turn signal button, for changeing lanes it will blink rapidly for a few seconds to signal the lane change. I have had mine for about 5000 miles and it works perfectly. The only drawback is that it is a little pricey. I have seen them from 105.00 to 109.00
Hope this helps you.
Enjoy the ride!

jacco
09-29-2005, 11:44 AM
Check out the flasher replacement made by Kisan Technologies www.kisantech.com.

That sounds very nice, I'll think about that!

Thanks,
Jacco

enjine
09-29-2005, 11:45 AM
cool, nice link bluemoon.

MarkF
09-29-2005, 03:00 PM
now to plan my weekend trip to the adirondacks (or however you spell it) :)

Was just there last weekend. Email me if you want some must ride routes.

Don't know how much the reserve is maybe 1.1 gallons. I've never got more than 45 mpg per tankful. Usually between 39 and 42 mpg. I think I like to twist it. I ran it down to fumes, about 50 miles on reserve and put in 4.9 gallons. I've heard they measured tank volume before installing the fuel pump and filler tube.

jacco
09-29-2005, 03:31 PM
I've heard they measured tank volume before installing the fuel pump and filler tube.

So that makes the reported volume as useful as the dry weight of a bike... What's the point?!?

Jacco

tiginbna
10-01-2005, 07:07 PM
I must concur with the Signal Minder. I have had mine for 1 yr/8000 miles. LOVE IT. Dont throw the papers away as they tell you how to program it after a battery swap.

Tig

RebeccaV
10-01-2005, 11:11 PM
Hey there enjine, welcome to the Forum. I will probably sound like a broken record to folks who have been here a while, but can you post some pictures of your RL? I am not familiar with that model at all.

MarkF
10-01-2005, 11:26 PM
I must concur with the Signal Minder. I have had mine for 1 yr/8000 miles. LOVE IT. Dont throw the papers away as they tell you how to program it after a battery swap.

Tig

Ditto. Best parts (for me) is you can cancel turn signals by hitting the same button you used to activate them and the half intensity running lights.

enjine
11-01-2005, 12:23 PM
finally got a digital camera to snap a pic of the bike.
i've probably put almost 1500 miles on it in the 1.5 months i've had it, and i really have to say that this is the bike for me. i love it!!

i put the pics in the sticky:
http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?p=90434&posted=1#post90434

jacco
11-01-2005, 03:42 PM
finally got a digital camera to snap a pic of the bike.
i've probably put almost 1500 miles on it in the 1.5 months i've had it, and i really have to say that this is the bike for me. i love it!!

i put the pics in the sticky:
http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?p=90434&posted=1#post90434

Darn. Accidentally posted my response here:
http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showpost.php?p=90470&postcount=79
and then couldn't find it no more...

FredRydr
11-01-2005, 10:09 PM
ABS, check. Heated Grips, check....Pulling in with this beautiful classic (black with white pinstripes).I had no idea ABS was available on the R1100RL. I've been under the mistaken impression that with the demise of the R1100R-SE in 1999 - which copied the prior year's 75th Anniversary Edition (photo below) - the R1100RL only came stripped of all options, such as ABS and heated grips. You have a great bike!

Fred
'02 R1150RA (black)
formerly '99 R1100R-SE (equally black)

http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4466&stc=1

phil
11-02-2005, 05:45 AM
Send us a picture of the bike.

enjine
11-02-2005, 01:36 PM
Send us a picture of the bike.

phil, i posted two pix in the Show Your Oilheads thread:
http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?p=90434&posted=1#post90434

No doubt I'll be snapping more and posting for everyone :)