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dano
02-13-2005, 01:52 AM
Check out the following:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=321020

BTW: Be sure to scroll down to see the whole article. :thumb

riderR1150GSAdv
02-13-2005, 06:48 AM
Very interesting article. I remember also those Van Veen Wankel powerd bikes as they were made in Amsterdam near where my grandparents used to live.
These bike were awesome looking but waaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced.(too many aa's? :D )
At 150 MPG it may become the ultimate tourbike. Hey... BMW!! are you awake??? :snore :evil

dano
02-13-2005, 07:17 AM
I'm thinking that if BMW INC. got their collective fingers involved in a turbo diesel.....it'd end up surging...... :D

riderR1150GSAdv
02-13-2005, 12:45 PM
:evil :rofl :rofl :rofl

gambrinus
02-13-2005, 01:36 PM
http://motorcyclecity.com/Military-bikes/M1030Diesel-Kawasaki.htm

For you dual-sport fans...


RW

YB in IN
02-13-2005, 11:05 PM
Very interesting article. I remember also those Van Veen Wankel powerd bikes as they were made in Amsterdam near where my grandparents used to live.
These bike were awesome looking but waaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced.(too many aa's? :D )
At 150 MPG it may become the ultimate tourbike. Hey... BMW!! are you awake??? :snore :evil

I saw a thing on tv the other day that said the Wankel was only 17 when he inented his engine. Oh, and evidently he thought it up in a dream. There was someone on a Diesel bike at Paonia last year. He got crazy gas mileage, but he couldn't go much more than like 55 or 60.

TZOLK
02-14-2005, 02:24 AM
A few years ago, Polaris produced a Diesel 4 wheeler ATV that wasnt turbo. The general opinion of us in the shop was that it was crap. It was soooooo G-Damn noisy, sooooo under powered. Seriously, you'd need ear protection just to stand next to it while reving. Probably got good gas mileage though.
I think turbo diesels are a good way to go. Too bad Ford doesnt put any in their smaller vehicles(bit off subject).

riderR1150GSAdv
02-14-2005, 06:59 AM
I saw a thing on tv the other day that said the Wankel was only 17 when he inented his engine. Oh, and evidently he thought it up in a dream. There was someone on a Diesel bike at Paonia last year. He got crazy gas mileage, but he couldn't go much more than like 55 or 60.

I was there (Paonia) too and saw that bike. Very nifty :thumb , I believe that this rider came from the east coast somewhere.
He got close to 100MPG with his bike but could only take the backroads. That is not a bad way to see the country anyway. :D

riderR1150GSAdv
02-14-2005, 07:11 AM
I think turbo diesels are a good way to go. Too bad Ford doesnt put any in their smaller vehicles(bit off subject).

Ford and other manufacturers in Europe sell most cars with diesels. Even Jaguar and BMW 5 & 7 series can be bought with diesels. And these vehicles can do up to 155 MPH, and by the way the 7 series BMW has a V10 turbo diesel.....
Then there is a whole crop of small Japanese , Italian and French made cars with diesel engines that get 50-80 MPG......Hello Detroit... asleep again..??? :snore :snore :snore Yep, they dozed of for another 20 years, Rip van Winkle's :evil

kbasa
02-14-2005, 11:34 AM
Ford and other manufacturers in Europe sell most cars with diesels. Even Jaguar and BMW 5 & 7 series can be bought with diesels. And these vehicles can do up to 155 MPH, and by the way the 7 series BMW has a V10 turbo diesel.....
Then there is a whole crop of small Japanese , Italian and French made cars with diesel engines that get 50-80 MPG......Hello Detroit... asleep again..??? :snore :snore :snore Yep, they dozed of for another 20 years, Rip van Winkle's :evil

US diesel has a higher sulfur content than the diesel sold in Europe. Because of that, theere hasn't been much in the way of diesel development.

Next year, the formulation for diesel will change to a lower sulfur content, which will allow the smaller, higher revving diesels to appear here. Look for high mileage diesels from most of the major manufacturers.

manicmechanic
02-14-2005, 12:10 PM
I met and talked with the "young" man on the diesel bike. He had shipped his bike to the east coast and was doing a blue-line-road tour of the US. He was on vacation and from Germany. It pains me to not remember his name right now. Anyhow, he did mention he got nothing but a very favorable impression of the places and folks he met along the way in Smalltown, USA. Yes, he couldn't do slab speeds, and was glad for that, since he got a better view of the country and its people.

What a way to spend a vacation!

lorazepam
02-14-2005, 05:52 PM
I bet soy diesel is low in sulfur content, Dave. Nothing like killing a field of plants to run your car :p .

kbasa
02-14-2005, 10:11 PM
I bet soy diesel is low in sulfur content, Dave. Nothing like killing a field of plants to run your car :p .

Absolutely. I'm a big proponent of biodiesel. It can come from all kinds of sources. You can refine it yourself from the big drums of old oil behind the fast food joint or you can buy it from some folks around here. I think they call it B100.

Think about how the government could stop paying people to not grow corn and pay them to get started growing soybeans instead. It'd be the same money applied to a far better cause. We could reduce our foreign dependence on oil, put a bunch of folks in the midwest to work really working toward our energy indepence and have a whole bunch of cars driving around that smell like either french fries or donuts.

Given the ability of the American farmer to really get things done, how long would it be until we were selling bioD to Europe? I like this idea, because I'm hearing predictions that the Chinese, in a decade or so, are going to require the entire daily production of oil from the mideast. We need to get prepared to protect our energy future and biodiesel may be a great way to help reach that goal.

I'd call that a win/win! :thumb

BubbaZanetti
02-14-2005, 10:20 PM
some friends and i built a bio-diesel car out of a Volkswaggen Rabbit dieseL a few yrs ag, we also insulated the gas tank and attemted to run a heater hose off the cooling system around it (w/limited success) you need really good filtering for it to work correctly, esp with all the crap in some place's grease!!! it proved an interesting experiment, but reliability issues plagued it, and we were being cheap............

kbasa
02-14-2005, 10:26 PM
some friends and i built a bio-diesel car out of a Volkswaggen Rabbit dieseL a few yrs ag, we also insulated the gas tank and attemted to run a heater hose off the cooling system around it (w/limited success) you need really good filtering for it to work correctly, esp with all the crap in some place's grease!!! it proved an interesting experiment, but reliability issues plagued it, and we were being cheap............

I was at the Marin County Fair last summer and there were some kids there that had converted an old school bus to biod and driven it across the country. I don't think they paid a penny for fuel. They were from UMass, if memory serves, or MIT and had done it as a project to see how feasable it was to run a vehicle on bio. They had a series of tanks and things to do their own refining while they were on the road. They'd kept a small tank for regular diesel, which they used to get the vehicle started. Once the motor was running, it would heat the biod and render it fluid. When that started, they'd switch over.

Kinda neat and they drew a huge crowd.

bigfoot105
02-15-2005, 12:14 PM
I was in Maui a couple of years ago and took a whale watching tour on a 60-80' biodiesel powered catamaran. The boat had a sample of the fuel it used in a clear container. The fuel was really refined in its clarity and came from a major west coast fast food chain. The boat company would not say what company it was due to advertising issues.

As an empolyee of a major petroleum service company in Alaska, I can tell you that an alternative fuel source is needed. The Prudhoe Bay and surrounding oil fields are in a major decline. Even though new technology is helping recover oil today that was not recoverable 5 years ago the consumption is out pacing the technology.

Here's my idea!!

America needs to figure out a way to turn excess body fat into an alternate fuel source. Here's the plan...... We all need to eat more french fries, ect.
Then go have our fat sucked out (Lipo) and refined into a useable fuel and put it into our cars. Then we could all drive down to the fast food place for....... More French Fries. :thumb

Talk about a renewable fuel source, and America would become Skinny and Energy Self Sufficent!! :twirl

BubbaZanetti
02-15-2005, 03:37 PM
They were from UMass, if memory serves


yep, i'm pretty sure i saw these guys around a lot last spring (i'm from amherst)

there are is also and amazing ammount of literature concerning super high milage carbs that burn regular gasoline. i've heard of guys in the 1970s getting 70-80 mpg out of Cadillac 500s with these special set-ups. also, gas burns most effectively at 125degrees F or so, BMW should come up with a tank wrap that plugs into the accesory socket! i'd go cold for better winter gas milage!!!

Pat Carol
02-15-2005, 06:15 PM
I have a friend that has a late model diesel F-250. He uses filtered fryer oil from the eating establishments in town. The truck runs fine and the exhaust smells like french fries.
The local restaurants love to see him showing up. It is less cost in disposal of their grease. He picks it up with several 55 gallon drums. Takes it home and filters it. The he places the clean oil in a tank located in his barn. The barn is heated to prevent freezing.
Maybe someone will invent a bike like that. If you need fuel, head on up to the greasy spoon.


Take Care
Pat Carol :twirl