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bmwDeb
12-20-2009, 01:41 PM
Greetings,

This is an introduction to a thread to start an exchange to try and answer questions specifically related to the BMW MOA International Rally in 2010.

My name is Deb Lower (BMWDeb) and I have been asked by the MOA Board to chair the 2010 Rally Chair. I have chaired 2 other MOA rallys and served on the MOA Board of Directors for numerous years, as President, Vice President, Secretary, and briefly as Treasurer. I live Colorado Springs and work in Indianapolis. My primary rides are R1200GS (now lowered) and R1150RS. I’m a novice at using the Forum, but experienced in chairing International Rallies. I will be ably assisted by Stan Herman, Rally Co-Chair. Stan (Wanderer) has lots of Forum experience and held key volunteer roles at the 2008 and 2009 Rallys. Stan lives in Pueblo and rides an R1150GS.

The Rally Committee Chairs and a large array of tireless volunteers are required to pull off an event like the Rally. We are especially thankful that Committee Chairs with years of experience in their roles are helping in Redmond and we have new folks who are chairing their committee for the first time. The BMW Riders of Oregon (BMWRO) are enthusiastic about the Rally returning to Redmond, and are helping us get the word out about all the wonderful things to do in Central Oregon.

For those who are not aware, the 2010 rally will be held in central Oregon at the Deschutes Fair and Expo Center http://www.expo.deschutes.org July 15-18, 2010. The Expo Center is located in Redmond, Oregon which is close to Bend, Sisters, Mt. Bachelor and a host of very interesting roads and attractions. This area of Central Oregon offers some of the best riding in the Pacific Northwest!

In the coming months there will be a lot of information about the area and the rally available here and on the MOA website and in your ON magazine.

We have several new events to offer – just one of them being the Redmond 1000, an IBA Saddlesore 1000 with 3 starting locations and all converging on Redmond. More details at http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=41250.

I hope you will make plans now to join us in Central Oregon at the 4R Rally. We are going to Ride, Rally and Relax in Redmond. We sure know how to do all of these and the Redmond community wants us to enjoy their spectacular scenery, climate and enthusiasm for outdoor activities. I can promise you that your Rally Chair, Co-Chair, Committee Chairs, MOA staff and volunteers will do all we can to make this the best rally ever!

Now, it is your turn to use the Forum to ask questions, provide suggestions. You will get a response from BMWDeb or Wanderer or if your comment or question is specific to a specific area, the committee chair may respond.

Don’t be bashful about speaking out - we all have a common goal to make the 4R Rally a great one!

Deb Lower
BMW MOA 2010 4R Rally Chair
Save the Dates – July 15 – 18, 2010

wanderer
12-20-2009, 01:43 PM
Cool logo!!! Of course I may be a bit biased.

As Deb said we are here to make this the best rally possible. We really do want your input. Please, let's hear your ideas and concerns and we will do our best to answer them or refer them to a committee that may have far more information on a given subject than either Deb or I. We may not be able to accomodate every request made but it won't be because we haven't tried.

As always, we hold a volunteer driven event. Starting very soon the committee chair list will be posted and contact information will be provided for you to become part of the event. If you know a lot of people or no one in the MOA, volunteering is a fantastic way to meet new friends.

I sincerly hope to see everyone reading this in Redmond next July!

Holly
12-20-2009, 02:02 PM
I think the correct link to the fairgrounds is this one. (http://www.expo.deschutes.org/index.cfm)

Looking forward to joining you, Deb and Stan, and several thousand other of my closest friends in Redmond next July.

Holly

wanderer
12-20-2009, 02:04 PM
Thanks Holly. Working on it. Cold up there eh?

bmwDeb
12-20-2009, 02:11 PM
Holly,

The website has been updated in my post.

Thanks,;)

Deb Lower
BMW MOA 2010 4R Rally Chair
Save the Dates – July 15 – 18, 2010

Holly
12-20-2009, 04:42 PM
Thanks Holly. Working on it. Cold up there eh?

Not too cold, and besides I'm flying to Denver on Tuesday so I'm counting on you for good weather down there. ;)

Holly

manicmechanic
12-20-2009, 05:54 PM
Wave as you fly overhead, Holly!:wave

wanderer
12-20-2009, 06:24 PM
Denver should be fine but we head out Tuesday for St. Louis. I'm really glad your plans changed and you'll be in Redmond instead of Belgium next July. Your "job" is very compatible in Redmond. We'll talk later. :thumb

Holly
12-20-2009, 10:58 PM
Wave as you fly overhead, Holly!:wave

Will do! :wave

Holly
12-20-2009, 10:59 PM
Denver should be fine but we head out Tuesday for St. Louis. I'm really glad your plans changed and you'll be in Redmond instead of Belgium next July. Your "job" is very compatible in Redmond. We'll talk later. :thumb

Yes, I'm glad I'll be in Redmond too. Now all I have to do is pass the exam!

41077
12-21-2009, 03:52 PM
Curious about music for the Rally. I think this group would be perfect for the rally crowd and they are in Oregon fairly often (based in Cali). Here is the booking link.

http://rickestrin.com/contact.html

utube videos can be found under both Rick Estrin and the Nightcats as well as former band name Little Charlie and the Nightcats.

Portland has a active music scene, the Cascade Blues Association could be an invaluable resource to the rally chair in charge of music.

http://www.cascadeblues.org/joomla/

I'm sure a German band could be found in Mt. Angel OR. not that I want to hear polka music all night but might be fun.

As varied as the musical tastes are (see what are you listening to today thread) would you (rally chair) consider throwing band selection suggestion open to the general membership?

Just random thoughts on a slow rainy day at work.

wanderer
12-21-2009, 04:52 PM
Thanks for the referral! I have forwarded your post to the entertainment chair. I know he's still looking for more acts.

:thumb

martinPH
12-21-2009, 05:19 PM
What about Stage Coach West? They are really good and have done our rallies before.
Martin.
Volunteer Committee chair.

John Brase
12-21-2009, 05:19 PM
I live Colorado Springs and work in Indianapolis. [/I][/B]

That's one hell of a commute, Deb.;)

John

wanderer
12-21-2009, 05:32 PM
They've been discussed for months. You didn't really think Deb would forget Stage Coach West did you?

Thanks Martin, for all you do!

bigsur52
12-21-2009, 05:38 PM
I've never been to a rally before, so excuse me if this is a stupid question. Is the first day of the rally (july 15, in this case) mostly an arrival day for attendees with few activities, or do most people arrive the day or evening before?

wanderer
12-21-2009, 05:45 PM
Not a stupid question at all Bigsur. Registration opens mid-day Wednesday the 14th. There is a full slate of activities beginning early on the 15th. Many folks arrive on Wednesday. Set up volunteers start work even earlier.

Something that does often suprise 1st time rally goers is how fast the place turns into a ghost town on Sunday.

bigsur52
12-21-2009, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the info, wanderer. I'll look forward to saying hello in person next July 14th.

SIBUD
12-21-2009, 07:00 PM
Not a stupid question at all Bigsur. Registration opens mid-day Wednesday the 14th. There is a full slate of activities beginning early on the 15th. Many folks arrive on Wednesday. Set up volunteers start work even earlier.

Something that does often suprise 1st time rally goers is how fast the place turns into a ghost town on Sunday.

Tagging onto this reply. The Chartered Club Leadership Summit will be held all day on Wednesday and most folks attending will arrive on the 13th. Look for more info on the Chartered Club web page and forum.

bmwDeb
12-23-2009, 07:47 AM
That's one hell of a commute, Deb.;)

John

You got to do, what you got to do to make ends meet.
Bringing the R1150RS to Redmond?;)

Deb

JohnRBeeson
01-16-2010, 09:44 AM
Hi, I'm John, a local in the area of the rally. I'm Deb's gopher for the rally. (never ask Deb a question about a national, it seems to get you volunteered LOL Panquitch 2000: "Deb, does the national ever have a thing like bike rescue?" "Yes we do and you know a local usually runs that". Can we say fish on. Don't know if you remember that Deb.)

If you have some questions about the area and Oregon, I'll try to be of service. I've been in Central Oregon for 28 years and lived in the NW all my life. I know the area fairly well between riding and working in every corner of the state.

I'm rather proud of our state so be prepared for a glass 3/4 full answer.

I'll try to remember to come back here often. (old brain).

John Beeson
Sisters, OR

bmwDeb
01-18-2010, 10:51 AM
Hi, I'm John, a local in the area of the rally. I'm Deb's gopher for the rally. (never ask Deb a question about a national, it seems to get you volunteered LOL Panquitch 2000: "Deb, does the national ever have a thing like bike rescue?" "Yes we do and you know a local usually runs that". Can we say fish on. Don't know if you remember that Deb.)



John,

Yes, I definitely remember the conversation at the Panquitch Rally. What can I say - I knew you'd enjoy volunteering and you do a great job! Do you have any other questions?

:wave

sourdough
01-18-2010, 08:33 PM
First, is the rally restricted to BMW bikes only? Second, is there a limit to how many people can attend? Third, should I preregister? Fourth, why am I numbering my questions? (Ok I will stop numbering). What do I get for my registration fee? I guess I should make my own camping arangements or do I go thru the club? I am totaly ignorant so please take that into consideration. Any thing else you can think of that I might need to know please feel free to add.
Thank You in advance, Sourdough

JohnRBeeson
01-18-2010, 08:47 PM
1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. good question :-)

You get entrance to the event. Can attend any seminars, tech sessions, events in general, access to camping onsite (very nice grass camping). I'm sure I'm forgetting some things.

Prereg starts March 1st and can be done online or I'm sure there is a paper form that can be sent in at that time.

Deb or Stan will probably have a more complete answer.

John B

Oh, and one more question Deb. Do you know Halle Berry???????

wanderer
01-18-2010, 10:04 PM
Well Sourdough, let me take a run at this. We have recently submitted an eleven page Frequenty Asked Questions Q&A which will be posted here on the MOA site in early Feburary. If you check back in Feburary I think you will find many answers to your "What else should I know?" question in addition to your "What do I get for my registration fee?" question.

As to some of your more specific questions: No you do not need to ride a BMW to attend. The rally is open to BMW riders and their guests. In regard to "How many people can attend?" We have never found a need to limit the number of people allowed into any site we have used to date. I suppose it is theoretically possible we would need to close the gates because it was simply too crowded. For the 2010 4R Rally in Redmond we anticipate and are planning for over 6,000 attendees.

If you preregister you will save $5.00 whether you are a member or nonmember. You will also likely save time in the registration process at the rally.

If you plan to tent camp you are welcome to camp on the rally grounds for the duration of the rally. You will be joined by several thousand like minded people.

A place to camp, vendors of all variety, dozens of seminars, and several nights of quality entertainment are just some of the things included in your rally registration fee. Oh, I almost forgot, you could also win a brand new BMW to ride home.

Check back here often. I'm certain as time draws closer many of your questions will be answered.

Something else you may want to consider is volunteering to work a 4 hour shift to help us host the rally. As this is your first rally it would be an excellent way to make new friends if you have an interest in that. Very shortly the list of committees will be posted here on the site and you may see an area that you feel might be fun for you to help out.

I hope this gives you a start on planning your first rally. There is one more thing of which you should rest assured, if you ask anyone you see at the rally for help, they will be more than happy to assist you with anything you may need. You simply can't be a stranger at a BMW MOA Rally long unless you so choose.

jaherbst
01-18-2010, 10:21 PM
Forget a hotel or motel room in Redmond. I called them all the day after I received my ON. Nothing Available!

Jack

JStrube
01-18-2010, 10:48 PM
3 of us from work are all coming up from Central CA for our first rally. For those coming from our area, how about a fun route? I hate to just hop on I-5 & miss some other routes. Thinking of riding up Highway 1, then over, not sure if that can be done in 2 days, or if it would take more.

John.

ksport
01-25-2010, 07:46 PM
Forget a hotel or motel room in Redmond. I called them all the day after I received my ON. Nothing Available!

Jack

There are still available in Bend, which is about 20 miles or so. I got mine reserved this weekend. Goodluck

calnalu
01-26-2010, 05:47 PM
3 of us from work are all coming up from Central CA for our first rally. For those coming from our area, how about a fun route? I hate to just hop on I-5 & miss some other routes. Thinking of riding up Highway 1, then over, not sure if that can be done in 2 days, or if it would take more.

John.

Yeah, skip 5 (yawn) plus it will be hotter than heck in July. I've done Highway 1/101 north and over to Bend in a day from the Bay Area. It's about 650 miles. Long day of riding and you'd add time since you're coming from the central valley.

If you have the time, take a couple days to ride up Hwy 1/101 to Crescent City and then take 199 to Grants Pass, take a slight detour up to Crater Lake. After Crater Lake it's a straight shot up Hwy 97 in central Oregon to Redmond. 97 can be hot and boring too though. If you go 199, go early in the morning before the RVs and tourist cagers get on the road.

If you want to crank out some slab miles first, you could also ride up 5 to Red Bluff and cross over to the coast on 36 or go to Redding and take 299 over. Both are excellent moto roads! :thumb

Marty

Bob_M
01-26-2010, 06:11 PM
For those coming from our area, how about a fun route? I hate to just hop on I-5 & miss some other routes.
John.

From LA get off I-5 at Fraiser Park at the Tehachapi crest and ride Forest Hwy 95 down to Hwy 166. Take that west to Santa Maria, and north on 101 to San Miguel take Indian valley road to Hwy 25 to Hollister, then east on 152 back to I-5. Roll north to Red Bluff and take 36 to Hwy 3 through Hayfork, past Hwy 299 and through the Trinity Alps. At Fort Jones go on the Scott Valley Road to 96, then west to Happy Camp to Indian Camp road to Hwy 199 in Oregon. (that road is a hoot!) Take 199 north and it will meet up with I-5 in Grants Pass. Then go east (south) on I-5 to Hwy 234 to 62 and that will take you up to Crater Lake. From there you are on the east side of the Cascades closing in on Redmond where you may want to take a little nap.

kgadley01
01-26-2010, 06:29 PM
Forget a hotel or motel room in Redmond. I called them all the day after I received my ON. Nothing Available!

Jack

Prineville is just 11 miles east of Redmond and is where we got our rooms...

JohnRBeeson
01-26-2010, 10:42 PM
Actually Prineville is about 20 miles east of Redmond.

Bend Motel, try Sugarloaf Mountain Motel. It was not listed in the News, Shhhh! Don't tell anyone.

kgadley01
01-27-2010, 06:59 PM
Actually Prineville is about 20 miles east of Redmond.

Bend Motel, try Sugarloaf Mountain Motel. It was not listed in the News, Shhhh! Don't tell anyone.

Ok, maybe its 20 miles. I'm going tomorrow for an eye exam. :brow we're staying at the Best Western.

gr8ridn2
02-02-2010, 05:33 PM
Where and when is the pre-registration. Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

gr8ridn2
02-02-2010, 05:41 PM
"REGISTRATION

When does Pre-Registration start and end?

Pre-Registration form will be in the BMW MOA Anonymous Book, the March issue of BMW Owners News and found on the http://www.bmwmoa.org Web site in early March. Pre-registration ends June 30."

Found in the home page.

kgadley01
02-03-2010, 03:21 PM
OK everyone, today we canceled our reservations for the Best Western in Prineville. We had two rooms reserved. for anyone still looking for a room here's your chance....

mbelectric
02-09-2010, 02:16 PM
Curious about music for the Rally. I think this group would be perfect for the rally crowd and they are in Oregon fairly often (based in Cali). Here is the booking link.

http://rickestrin.com/contact.html

utube videos can be found under both Rick Estrin and the Nightcats as well as former band name Little Charlie and the Nightcats.

Portland has a active music scene, the Cascade Blues Association could be an invaluable resource to the rally chair in charge of music.

http://www.cascadeblues.org/joomla/

I'm sure a German band could be found in Mt. Angel OR. not that I want to hear polka music all night but might be fun.

As varied as the musical tastes are (see what are you listening to today thread) would you (rally chair) consider throwing band selection suggestion open to the general membership?

Just random thoughts on a slow rainy day at work.

>>>> Along the same lines, here's an act that consistantly pleases:

http://tommycastro.com/site/

I've seen his shows locally here in CA and never been disappointed.

And I see a hole in his schedule in July...

MB>

flymymbz
02-09-2010, 11:12 PM
I happen to have that weekend off and am, so far, planning to attend. I would like to volunteer, but I cannot commit to anything until late June, early July. Is that too late to sign up to volunteer for anything?

Thanks,

Dee

wanderer
02-09-2010, 11:19 PM
Never too late to volunteer. There is currently on line sign up and sign up during the rally. We WILL find a spot for you. Thanks for volunteering! :bow

Coach
02-15-2010, 11:26 PM
Hi Folks,

Ramey 'Coach' Stroud here with breaking news.

On July 13 and 14 there will be an off-pavement adventure ride exploring the beautiful Cascade Mountains of Oregon. This pre-rally event will be a self-guided, off-pavement tour with maps and GPS tracks for each of three routes: Easy, Moderate and Difficult. Each route will have chase riders bringing up the rear.

All proceeds from this event will benefit the BMW MOA Foundation and help pay for safety training. Speaking of training, there will be off-pavement coaching sessions as part of this event.

The price of admission is a donation to the Foundation. Make a $100 donation and you receive an entry to the two-day adventure tour as your thank-you gift. For a $50 donation choose either day as your thank-you gift.

There will be MUCH MORE information coming soon in BMWON and on this website. But you heard it here first! If you ride a GS, this is one ride you can't miss.

Ride Well,
Coach

SherpaMayberry
02-16-2010, 06:36 AM
Forget a hotel or motel room in Redmond. I called them all the day after I received my ON. Nothing Available!

Jack

There are alternatives. Consider renting a tent setup. Cheaper than hotels and you get to stay on-site.

martinPH
02-16-2010, 09:16 AM
I happen to have that weekend off and am, so far, planning to attend. I would like to volunteer, but I cannot commit to anything until late June, early July. Is that too late to sign up to volunteer for anything?

Thanks,

Dee

Email me and I will set you up.
Martin
Volunteer Committee Chair

tkbaker4
02-16-2010, 12:25 PM
There are alternatives. Consider renting a tent setup. Cheaper than hotels and you get to stay on-site.

TEd offers comfortable tents, big mattresses and a chair. Don't forget the mint on the pillow (though mine had melted when I checked in at the National last year.
And don't forget the free coffee, towels, charging stations, etc.
I used Sherpa at the National and RA rallies last year and it was a treat. Used my own gear for the of the two weeks on the road.
I'm not related or own a piece, just a satisfied customer.
Ted will take care of you.

SherpaMayberry
02-16-2010, 12:44 PM
(though mine had melted when I checked in at the National last year).

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/tatjanca/Thud.gif

Those are hard mints too. Don't remember it getting hot enough to melt those!

You should have tracked me down for a replacement!

gregfuess
02-16-2010, 01:03 PM
In the For What Its Worth department,

http://www.betoandthefairlanes.com/

Beto and the Fairlanes have been entertaining in the Houston/Austin/San Antonio since I attended the University of Texas at Austin in the 70s. Interesting, dance-able music with a flair.

wanderer
02-17-2010, 08:15 AM
I really like the swing sound. Under the stars I'm sure it would be a big hit.

I'm pretty sure the musical entertainment line up is almost complete.
I'll keep this link just in case. THANKS !!

mbelectric
02-18-2010, 03:20 PM
I really like the swing sound. Under the stars I'm sure it would be a big hit.

I'm pretty sure the musical entertainment line up is almost complete.
I'll keep this link just in case. THANKS !!


So, are we expecting an official announcement Mar1? :eat

MB>

wanderer
02-18-2010, 04:02 PM
Nope. Entertainment booking isn't on the same time table as registration. We'll announce when all the cotracts are signed and conditions met.:twirl

41077
02-18-2010, 04:10 PM
For sheer musical fun I don't think you can get much farther out than these guy's
http://www.straitjackets.com/

wz882j
02-28-2010, 07:26 PM
Last rally, we had the opportunity to visit the Bush Beans factory for a tour and a MOA BBQ reception. My wife and I really enjoyed this and it is one of the best memories of our trip to Johnson City.

Is there anything like this in the works for this year?

I don't want to miss it if there is!

wanderer
03-01-2010, 07:42 AM
Yup

:hide :whistle

wanderer
03-02-2010, 03:59 AM
Oh Nooooooo someone Goosed Vance !! Last year we got beaned and this year Vance has gone and Goosed us, what next??

http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally10/events_seminars_cool_stuff/the_b_4r_rally_event :dance

oneup008
03-11-2010, 02:42 PM
Any news about a motorcycle carrying train from WDC to Chicago to Redmond?

wanderer
03-18-2010, 09:54 AM
http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=37540

36691
04-06-2010, 07:54 PM
Redmond
As an east coaster who has been to oregon several times I would recomend the Spruce goose tour far anyone vaguely interested in mechanical stuff also Tillamook cheese and DO not miss Crater Lake

Martin Buck

alabeemer
04-06-2010, 08:25 PM
Thanks Martin! We are expecting a quick sellout for this event and I think it is going to be a lot of fun!

cbcK1200S
04-17-2010, 10:55 AM
I've been looking through the Rally's Q&A section looking for details on Seminars especially ERC training seminars. My wife is very interested in attending one at the Rally. Is there a section here that outlines what seminars will be available? I too am interested in tech seminars and would appreciate a listing of what will be offered and when in order to plan out the days activities.
Thanks
cbcK1200S - Colin
:dunno

wanderer
04-17-2010, 01:51 PM
We are currently at the MOA BOD meeting. We met with Sue Rhin-Manke last evening and she is putting the final touches on the seminar listings. She has organized well over 100 seminars. It will be posted on the forums when her work is complete which will be very soon.

Rider Performance University is greatly expanded this year with far more rider training than we haver had in the past. Stay tuned!!

martinPH
05-03-2010, 12:23 PM
The 2010 BMW MOA inter-National is just 70 days away and we need lots of volunteers to make this event a success.
Please consider volunteering for a shift or two: some of the shifts are as little as 2 hours long, Most are 4 hours.
The best way to enjoy the rally is to get involved!
Email volunteer2010@bmwmoa.org :type
Thanks; look forward to hearing from you.
Martin.

martinPH
05-14-2010, 01:54 PM
:helpThe 2010 BMW MOA inter-National is just 70 days away and we need lots of volunteers to make this event a success.
Please consider volunteering for a shift or two: some of the shifts are as little as 2 hours long, Most are 4 hours.
The best way to enjoy the rally is to get involved!
Email volunteer2010@bmwmoa.org :type
Thanks; look forward to hearing from you.
Martin.

60 days!:help

martinPH
05-25-2010, 02:50 PM
50 Days:thumb

martinPH
06-05-2010, 10:40 AM
40 days till the Rally and we are still looking for lots of volunteers.Please dont wait until the last minute:wave

wayneswan
07-08-2010, 02:04 PM
7 days!!!!

Bump!

martinPH
07-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Come see us at the volunteer booth, we still need lots of volunteers.

skiguy
07-11-2010, 10:06 PM
Both myself and my wife will be able to volunteer from Tuesday on for a couple of hours each day if needed. We will check out the sign up sheets on Tuesday as we are dropping off our daughter at GEARS on Tuesday morning. See yah eh!

kellysbeemer
07-11-2010, 10:16 PM
Two of us will be rolling in on Tuesday so we can lend a hand as well.

Kelly

wwilson
07-12-2010, 09:56 PM
Hey, Does anyone know if there will be a flea market at the rally this year ? If so who do you contact, what are the rules and hours ? Thanks for any info

Norsk62
07-20-2010, 09:09 PM
This was my first BMW rally since I am a new owner, but I am not new to motorcycle rallys in general.

First of all I want to thank Redmond for hosting the event. I met some very wonderful people at the rally and made some new friends. The road stories were both entertaining and interesting. Paul Hawthorne was great and he has earned a new fan.

I appreciate the guys from Ohlin's who let me take a look at an RT they had on their lift that gave me a great view of how my RT looks torn down. And thanks to all the vendors who helped me spend my money on well deserved Farkles. :bikes

My only complaints whould be that there should have been more food vendors. But I am curious as why it took so long to get portapotties delivered to the fair grounds and why there were no more shower facilities? And with temperatures in the 90's there was no water sources available for everyone? You were forced to buy bottled water at $3.00 and no cool down facilities? Being a retired fireman, that concerned me. :cry

Overall it was a great experiance and I look forward to attending my next event.

Thanks BMW MOA for putting on a gret event.

Norsk62

41077
07-20-2010, 10:55 PM
Not to pick nits but you will want to buy a Paul Thorn CD, not sure who Hawthorn is.
I found free water at the drinking fountains once I had a $3.00 container. Cool down was inside any of the many air conditioned buildings and the stream was wonderfull for cooling my feet. Yes it would have been better with a couple of sprayers set up.
I remember the showers in indiana that were outside, cold and in a ring formation with no dividers. Where were the shower trailers? As I heard one rally rat say "showering is overated". You just have to time it so you shower during off hours.
All in all I had a wonderful overnight rally experience, (came for Paul Thorn) rode two of the new bikes and pushed my 86K75T hard on the way home through the forest with no traffic north of Detroit Lake. I don't need a new bike I just need to ride the two I have more often.
Every rally is what YOU make of it.

Tallyho
07-21-2010, 02:14 PM
I believe the board of directors and future rally committees have learned the problems associated with a "closed shop" when considering future rally locations. The rally committee had practically zero control or negotiating power in the face of the fairground's single contracted service vendor. It took a major effort to get "some" control over the cost of beer and ice at the rally. I heard numerous complaints about the lack of showers and was told the MOA could not afford them from the vendor regime. Once a rider has scouted out the lay of a rally and cost aspects, one can take some personal initiative to mitigate the lack of facilities or unacceptable costs. There are plenty of creative options and partnerships that can formed versus stewing in one's own juice for four days. Some have already been listed. I often wonder if large facilities like the fairground consider the limitations they put on potential customers in the face of their own presumed cost necessity that prompts them into these exclusive agreements. I found it somewhat troubling for a quasi-isolated location such as Redmond, Oregon and also find the monopoly, closed shop, non-negotiating aspect in conflict with the basic principles upon which our club and most of the free world are based. It's a beautiful facility in a wonderful part of the world but I would not endorse returning under the current management conditions ever again. :nono

Of course, the shower in our hotel room and saltwater soaking pool worked fine every day of the rally but I was hopeful that those camping might enjoy the "extra" showers we had ostensibly paid for at the rally site with our registrations but not using. :wow

wanderer
07-26-2010, 07:53 AM
On the subject of showers. There were also showers available off site at the middle school. That information was posted in the rally program. All may not have seen it. The reason we didn't rent shower trailers wasn't cost it was availabvlity. There were none available within several hundred miles. I started the search about a year in advance including forest fire fighters and the Oregon Guard. They simply weren't available. Our choice to supplement showers was to contract with the local school dist.

It would truely be great to find a site that 100% meets our needs but as of yet I don't believe that site has been built. PLEASE if you find a site that you feel would meet the needs of the MOA, contact the site selection committee. :bikes

MCMXCIVRS
07-26-2010, 09:18 AM
I never found it difficult to access the showers at the rally. The large locker room showers in the Hooker Creek building were busy, but I never had to wait for a spot.

The thing that was most difficult was discovering where the showers were. It was basically word of mouth information from others who had discovered them. They should have been marked on the map in the rally book and had more signage to direct people to them. I never heard about the off site showers at all.

wanderer
07-26-2010, 09:47 AM
I was shocked to learn we had ommitted the restroom and shower locations from the rally map. When I first heard they were not on the rally map in the program I immediately looked in the program because I couldn't believe we had overlooked it. It was an unintentional mistake and I made it. Neither were marked on site to the level we would have intended. That will go into the rally follow up report and will be addressed for future rallies.

Lack of easy identification is why we brought in the porta potties. The site had more than double the number of toilets required for a group our size. The problem arose because people couldn't find them when they were detemining where to set up their campsite nor when they needed them during the event.

Bob_M
07-26-2010, 10:00 AM
Had a great time. Chatted up some new friends, had some beer and rode and rode around the region. No complaints about anything.
Pic of me on the Cascades Lakes Scenic Byway

cbcK1200S
07-26-2010, 10:11 AM
I never found it difficult to access the showers at the rally. The large locker room showers in the Hooker Creek building were busy, but I never had to wait for a spot.

The thing that was most difficult was discovering where the showers were. It was basically word of mouth information from others who had discovered them. They should have been marked on the map in the rally book and had more signage to direct people to them. I never heard about the off site showers at all.

My wife and I worked the registration desks Thursday afternoon from 12:00 - 4:00 P.M. and one of the things we were asked to do was point out where important things like seminars, showers and the beer tent was located. We would mark on the grounds map and point out each of the facilities.

So I know those I registered knew where they were.

cbcK1200S - Colin

flymymbz
07-26-2010, 01:50 PM
Redmond was my first BMW National and I had a FANTASTIC time.

I brought along a 1.5 liter Platypus water bag to keep me hydrated. You can't control the weather, and I would rather have sunny and 92F as opposed to 65F and rain.

I had no problems finding the restrooms, but I did have to ask around for the shower. Heard a few women moan and bitch about the shower facilities. Apparently they wanted private showers, large mirrors, enough outlets for their blow dryers and curling irons and a big enough counter to lay out their 7 lbs of make up products. :violin

There was a Safeway grocery store down the street that had everything I wanted for b-fast, lunch and dinner.

My only complaint is that I wish I had gotten there on Wednesday morning instead of Thursday afternoon. So many things to do, not enough time in the day.

Hoping I can get enough time off to head east next year!


:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:dance:dance:dance:dance

MCMXCIVRS
07-26-2010, 03:38 PM
....So many things to do, not enough time in the day. .....


I had that problem too. I missed several seminars and events that I would have like to have gone to. I did get to a number of good ones though including the GS Anti-Concours (second place winner too). :clap

The onsite buffet breakfast was good, the other food vendors were adequate; the fruit bowl with ice cream was quite tasty. I never left the grounds after I arrived on Thursday until I was packed up and headed for home on Sunday. I managed just fine on the services available there, but then I was surviving on backcountry camping rations for four days before, so my point of reference was not too hard to top. :p

It was a very enjoyable rally all-in-all.:thumb:thumb Met some old friends and made some new friends which is what it's really all about.

clowry
07-26-2010, 03:42 PM
There were 2 private showers by the Sherpa camping area, and they were generally lined up for more than an hour. Time of day didn't seem to matter (I saw one fellow leaving the shower at 3:45 AM!) The showers were just as lined up at midnight as they were first thing in the morning; sometimes just 2 or 3 people waiting, sometimes 8 or more. Hit and miss, I guess. I didn't know the location of any other showers on site until after the closing ceremonies. There WAS a sign indicating shower facilities were available at the high school 3 miles away, but being one of those ladies who does NOT bring a hair dryer etc, I wasn't thrilled with the idea of putting my helmet on over my wet hair.

Apart from the shower issue, we had a great time as always! Already looking forward to next year!

R1100rtP
07-26-2010, 04:29 PM
There were 2 private showers by the Sherpa camping area, and they were generally lined up for more than an hour. Time of day didn't seem to matter (I saw one fellow leaving the shower at 3:45 AM!)
Apart from the shower issue, we had a great time as always! Already looking forward to next year!

I never found those showers, but camped behind the Hooker Creek Event center, and there was a ladies locker room there. Gang showers, but I never had a problem, (went there at 4:00 AM, and middle of the afternoon). Was getting ready once when I looked over in the other shower area to see a guy opening one of the lockers :wave After a quick "excuse me....this is the ladies locker room...he made a hasty retreat....I guess it was too early in the AM for him!

I even curled up on the bench Monday night to warm up (temps were down in the 30's).. Good time....thanks Deb, Stan and all the members who worked the event!!

manicmechanic
07-26-2010, 07:15 PM
Good times! Great neighbors, too. (You Black Sheep know who you are) :wave:wave Looking forward to seeing everybody at another rally down the road!

rickgiroux
07-27-2010, 01:21 AM
My first rally and the experience was great, starting with registration. everything was spelled out and easy to remember. the next morning we heard the announcements about baths and showers. never had a complaint about anything. The heat was nice, cause the night was cold. just like i like em! :clap

martinPH
07-28-2010, 01:03 PM
I would like to thank everyone who volunteered at the Rally, Its people like you that make these things the success they are.
Martin.
2010 Volunteer Committee, Chair

Bullet
07-31-2010, 10:17 AM
Kerry here. I meant to write down your email address but forgot it by the time I got close to a pen. Send me a note at: bullet@i-zoom.net

jeffsedlak
08-14-2010, 07:51 PM
We saw planes circling, where are the photos posted?
Great rally!
jeff

GTRider
08-14-2010, 10:26 PM
This was the second Redmond rally my wife and I attended, and we enjoyed it thoroughly. Coupla comments:

1. Rooms in Prineville were nice and reasonably priced. Couple of good restaurants in town, too. We often find that staying 15-20 minutes away from the actual rally site provides a nice eye-opener in the morning.

2. Beer, food, and the like. Beer garden was fine, ice and bottled water onsite were a bit spendy but that was remedied at the local Albertson's. The problem with running a sidecar rig is that you always get elected to do the beer and ice run. Food on site was OK but just. C'mon, since when do you pay $8 for a pulled pork sandwich and not get at least some beans, chips, or slaw with it? The taco salads were by far the best buy onsite-- we ended up eating all but two meals offsite. HINT TO FOOD VENDORS: Tarping to provide shade for your waiting lines is cheap and draws people like flies....

The ice cream vendors were great.....

3. Vendor selection this year was good, lots of activity both inside and out. My wallet is still smarting!

4. The seminars we attended were great, but we didn't make it to many because we were out enjoying the AWESOME SCENIC ROADS. Bump that requirement higher on the priority list, please!

Great job by rally staff and volunteers, a big thank you to all of them!
:)

GTRider