View Full Version : What is a good price for this at a dealership?
DRUDOLPH148006
09-22-2009, 01:23 PM
What would be considered a reasonable cost to have the valves adjusted and have both ends of the splines lubed at a BMW dealership? I was quoted from 6 to
7 hours labor at $85 an hour, with the rates going down for the winter after
Nov. 1st. I would not mind doing the rear splines but thought I would have the
dealer do both as I don't know when they were last done. Would the average
home mechanic have a problem pulling the transmission? I wouldn't care if it took
me a week to do it over the winter months as the bike isn't going anywhere here
in the high altitudes of Oregon during the winter months. The valves I will have the dealer do. The bike runs fine, it's just the piece of mind knowing these things were checked. Thanks for any input.
DRUDOLPH148006
09-22-2009, 01:25 PM
The bike is a 1992 K75 RT.
PHMarvin
09-22-2009, 02:08 PM
Hi, DRudolph,
You do NOT have to have the dealer do the work. It is not difficult, but is time-consuming the first time, to do a spline lube. I've done two of them ('94 K75A/3 and '95 K75RT with ABS) in my garage. My late wife helped me with the '94 and her brother helped with the RT. Plan a weekend the first time, and have someone with a bit of experience there to help.
Check your own valve clearances. If you need the valves adjusted, the tools you need to depress the valve spring and then hold it open, cost around $180 from BMW or under $30 from Ken Lively. Ken's tools work as well as the factory tools; I have a set and have adjusted K75 valves with them. The only bad thing is you need to remove the shim to see what it is, then determine what shim you need to replace it. Certain older Suzukis and, I believe, Kawasakis, use the same 29mm shims which BMW uses for 2-valve K100 and K75 bikes.
If the dealer does it, expect $500 or more for the spline lube (what grease was used? Was it done correctly? How do you know?) and probably $150+ for the valve adjustment. I can buy a lot of beer/gas/steaks/whatever for that money or I can host a hell of a tech day. Your call!
shakeybone
09-22-2009, 06:14 PM
I did my first spline lube on my k100rt this spring and it was not bad. I spent a week as time (after work ) and weather (my garage is not heated) would allow. I could have done it in a weekend if I had the time.
kgadley01
09-22-2009, 06:25 PM
I don't know a thing about a K bike, but the satisfaction of doing the work yourself is priceless. you will take more time to make sure its right, than someone who workes as fast as they can to make more money. Plus It's pretty cool to be able to say "Oh I did it myself" :thumb
Beemer01
09-22-2009, 08:05 PM
http://www.bmwmcnj.com/Technical/bmd%20k100%20how%20to%20tips%20for%20free..pdf
Plus a Clymer manual. Morning's work if you have a helper.
DRUDOLPH148006
09-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Thanks for the information, the link to the website is great, as they say, a picture
is worth a thousand words. Is most of the wear on the rear spline or should they
always both be lubed at the same time?
PHMarvin
09-23-2009, 12:17 AM
Hi, DRudolph,
You have a '92 K75RT. There are a couple of weak points on the bike. The driveshaft to final drive splines should be greased every rear tire change or 10k miles. Recommended lube is Honda 60 Moly Paste, or a 50/50 mixture of Honda 60 Moly Paste and Wurth 3000 grease. DO NOT USE BMW #10 grease or anything BMW sells as "spline lube". The clutch splines should be greased about every 40k miles, also with Honda 60 Moly Paste or the 50/50 mix. If the gearbox becomes difficult to downshift without blipping the throttle, do a clutch spline lube - NOW. The third thing which wears more than the K100 or K1100 is the alternator drive. Sometime during the winter remove the alternator and check the rubber drive cushions, the "monkey nutz", in the drive cup. If they have started to deteriorate, replace them. It may save you the time and PITA of replacing the drive lugs and the driven cup. I hope this helps.
Everything you need is here
That PDF is a direct rip-off of the IBMWR site K-Bike section (http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech.shtml), all the info was stolen directly from the site. A while back someone was selling this PDF on eBay on a CD as a BMW repair guide.
MysticRed
09-27-2009, 09:43 PM
Wow Ted, that does look amazingly just the same!
deilenberger
09-27-2009, 09:54 PM
That PDF is a direct rip-off of the IBMWR site K-Bike section (http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech.shtml), all the info was stolen directly from the site. A while back someone was selling this PDF on eBay on a CD as a BMW repair guide.
And there are those of us who are quoted in the info - with complete tech writeups STOLEN - who have objected.. to no avail. If anyone knows anyone in the BMWMCNJ (BMW Motorcycle Club of North Jersey) you might mention to them that isn't how BMW riders usually treat other BMW riders property.
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