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DS74BMW
07-28-2009, 08:26 AM
I picked these up at Mid Ohio swap meet Saturday with some assorted BMW parts. The cam disc differs from mine ['74 R60]; it is not like any shown on BMW Hucky's website. I sent Hans these pics, and he did not know, saying perhaps a BMW single application. The disc bore is .599" diameter [much larger than mine]. The two parts were taped together [tape was yellow and brittle], and marked "NOS".
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Richard
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AnnapolisAirhead
07-28-2009, 01:48 PM
Throttle tube and cable pulling gear from an R100xx (T, RT, RS) circa 1981-1984 possibly others.
If you order the parts now, the top cover that has a single slothead screw has a different configuration. My throttle tube gear teeth were stripped by the PO and I bought a new one and gear with chain...which meant I had to buy a new top. All in all, the new one is a better design.
I think I still have the old top piece that would fit yours.
DS74BMW
07-28-2009, 04:57 PM
Throttle tube and cable pulling gear from an R100xx (T, RT, RS) circa 1981-1984 possibly others.
If you order the parts now, the top cover that has a single slothead screw has a different configuration. My throttle tube gear teeth were stripped by the PO and I bought a new one and gear with chain...which meant I had to buy a new top. All in all, the new one is a better design.
I think I still have the old top piece that would fit yours.
Thanks, AA.
My throttle gear teeth are quite worn as well - feels "notchy" as I turn the throttle. I'm looking to trade this set for a nice one that fits my R60/6.
DS74BMW
07-29-2009, 09:07 AM
The part numbers for these are 32 72 1 457 081 [cam disc], and 32 72 1 454 129 [twist gear]. For R100. I put these on flea market.
Thanks again, Annapolis.
Boxerkuh
07-29-2009, 10:53 AM
That is what I have on my 86 and my 93 throttle hands.
20774
07-29-2009, 11:17 AM
It looks like that the throttle tube is used on just about any model /6 and on whereas the cam disc is limited to only R100 T/CS/RS/RT 1981 models and on.
DS74BMW
07-29-2009, 03:09 PM
I just pulled my throttle tube, and it looks just like the above; I then looked at the photos on Hucky's site, and really couldn't tell much difference, other than part nos..
Thanks for pointing that out, 20774.... It looks like all I need is the cam disc... I appreciate your keen eye!
AnnapolisAirhead
07-30-2009, 06:37 AM
It looks like that the throttle tube is used on just about any model /6 and on whereas the cam disc is limited to only R100 T/CS/RS/RT 1981 models and on.
I think that sounds about right if I scratch my memory from the discussion I had at Bob's.
It went something like this, I cracked the throttle open as I left for a ride and it just slipped. Pulled the cam top off and could see the teeth on the tube were mashed and a little on the cam too. That's when I discovered that the new cam will not work on the old cam top--they actually moved some of the structure into the cam top cover (like the centering boss), so you need to buy a new top with the cam itself.
I think, but am not 100% certain that you could get by with just a new tube if that were your only problem. My cam teeth were also bad, so I had to get the top too.
FrankT
08-01-2009, 08:58 PM
Take a close look at the end of the chain where the throttle cable(s) would connect. There is only a single throttle cable nipple connection shown so I can only conclude this is from a single cylinder bike.
kgadley01
08-01-2009, 09:05 PM
looks just like the setup that was on my 88 R100 RS.
FrankT
08-01-2009, 09:52 PM
looks just like the setup that was on my 88 R100 RS.
Ok, looks like my airhead part experience from the 70s.
AnnapolisAirhead
08-01-2009, 10:48 PM
Take a close look at the end of the chain where the throttle cable(s) would connect. There is only a single throttle cable nipple connection shown so I can only conclude this is from a single cylinder bike.
Not at all, soemtime near 1981 (possibly a few years earlier), the twins went to a single cable to the throttle tube, with a splitter/barrel inder the tank that fed a cable to each carb. Standard from that point forward.
rowens816
12-29-2010, 12:26 PM
I realize that this is an older thread. However, I had just ordered and received the exact Cam Disc and Throttle tube. Now, the problem seems to be with the top plate and/or slotted screw.
Did anyone resolve this? What top cover is needed to make these work. The teeth on this combination in my existing housing do not seem to mesh well enough.
Old cam on the left; new cam on the right.
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rowens816
12-29-2010, 12:30 PM
Sorry.
http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/dap_spackled/BMW013.jpg
20774
12-29-2010, 12:49 PM
According to Hucky's, I believe the one on the left is 1975-1980. He lists different part numbers for 32 and 40mm carbs (Bing and Dells). The one on the right appears to be 1981-1984 and for 40mm Bings.
AnnapolisAirhead
12-29-2010, 01:32 PM
If you order a new cam, you need to order a new top. You can't mix old top with new cam gear, as you can see the difference in the center hold. I forget which is which, but one top has a larger boss that inserts into the larger holed cam.
I went through this on my '83 R100, fortunately (at the time) I lived 20 minutes from Bob's BMW). I still have the top from my old one if you want it cheap. PM if you do, but I'd go with a new top. Me likes new and shiny.:brow
From MARS
12-29-2010, 06:09 PM
As luck would have it, I was looking at these over on Max's fiche. They have a blurp that the new cam gear setup, which supercedes the smaller, requires a new top plate.
Tom
rowens816
12-29-2010, 08:29 PM
Thanks, Guys.
I'll order the new top from Max BMW.
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