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lamble
05-16-2009, 07:41 AM
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GlobalRider
05-16-2009, 08:01 AM
I picked up on the part about "information".

The trouble with info that is either in a book or on any other media is that it is quickly outdated. What applied last month, may no longer apply next month, especially in third world countries with different rules at different border crossings....or how the wind blows.

lamble
05-16-2009, 08:34 AM
I picked up on the part about "information".

The trouble with info that is either in a book or on any other media is that it is quickly outdated. What applied last month, may no longer apply next month, especially in third world countries with different rules at different border crossings....or how the wind blows.

That's why Horizons Unlimited's website is so useful, it's updated by people who are on the road now and by people who live all over the globe and can provide local knowledge and assistance that's current.
I know I used the site extensively on the ride I took. I also know that there are elements of preparation and just the aspirational nature of case studies and ride reports that remain constant, for which a DVD or book are more than adequate.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/

I just wonder whether the comment has anything to do with perceived competition perhaps?

GlobalRider
05-16-2009, 09:06 AM
That's why Horizons Unlimited's website is so useful, it's updated by people who are on the road now and by people who live all over the globe and can provide local knowledge and assistance that's current.

Exactly!

I just wonder whether the comment has anything to do with perceived competition perhaps?

It comes from many of the summaries I've read; those found on the back covers of books or descriptions I've found on on-line sites offering touring books for sale. I've never found any of them to be remotely accurate at least not if real information is what you are after.

Perceived competition? :scratch

lamble
05-16-2009, 03:19 PM
I enjoy the books as a travel log, or to be inspired, but one still needs real time information. I am grateful that Grant has such a portal for world citizens to network in.

Horizons Unlimited :thumb

Steve what do you think of your fellow UK Gser site ? Careful there might be a spy in the colonies.

As with many things, it's main strength can also be its weakness. It's specialist GS, so the number of users makes for a less dynamic site than BMWMOA, purely because there's fewer people to input.
However, what is input is more targeted to what I want, ie GS content. Having said which there's a scope of topic that is as wide if not wider than BMWMOA and there's both national and regional input.
The posts themselves seem to be more "broad minded" than here, with a British ability to give and take insults in a far different manner than the sensitivities on BMWMOA would allow, from that perspective I'd say UK GSers was more tolerant and grown up in it's approach, but that if an American were to look at what was there, they might not see it that way. It's a different culture, not better or worse, just different.
I've alienated people in MOA by asking them to think beyond their statements and explain how they reached conclusions, to look at other possibilities, not necessarily even possibilities I believe in. In MOA this is taken as an affront, as an insult even.."how dare you question me". That is what I will always regard as the most disappointing aspect of this site. It's far more knock about in GSers and with a correct understanding of the English language, there's less likelihood of misinterpretation, whether intentional or not. I will maintain that 'bigot' does not mean racist, only an unwillingness to accept anyone else's opinions and on that point I am a bigot, a linguistically correct bigot. But to use such a term in GSers wouldn't cause the batting of an eye lid, and certainly wouldn't warrant censorship.

So, UK GSers, be patient and threads progress. I had offers of help with my return, so folks are friendly. Consider your posts carefully, because you will be challenged and you may not get away with just spouting any unsubstantiated beliefs as being an unquestionable truth.

lamble
05-18-2009, 01:57 AM
The Horizons Unltd global gatherings are worth a visit, just for the exposure to people who are in the middle of living their dreams out. Like most groups there are the ones who have done it, the one who are doing it, those thinking of doing it and the ones that talk about doing it but never will (well folk's circumstances change).

But it's an extension to a meet-up based on a brand that has been purchased, there's something else there too.

Oh and there is a hierarchy, twice round the world gets first dibs at the food, before once round the world, all the way down to "I've watched Long way round"who have to make do with the scrappings and left overs!!!!


(Not really).

tommcgee
05-18-2009, 05:46 AM
I watched the new video yesterday and don't see the potential for it becoming dated info. It's more a checklist of things you're going to have think about, resources you have to explore, and interviews with other people who've made the trip. It's very well done. I look forward to the next three releases.