CANBUS and Gerbing Gloves

[Professor]

Will CANBUS (2007 R1200RT) get mad if I get an adaptor and plug my heated gloves into an auxilary jack? I don't use a heated jacket or anything other than the gloves. I'm not sure what amperage they draw or what CANBUS will tolerate.

Do I need to add a fuse block and if so, is it better to have a dealer do it or is this pretty fool-proof for an amature?

[alzyck]

Will CANBUS (2007 R1200RT) get mad if I get an adaptor and plug my heated gloves into an auxilary jack? I don't use a heated jacket or anything other than the gloves. I'm not sure what amperage they draw or what CANBUS will tolerate.

Do I need to add a fuse block and if so, is it better to have a dealer do it or is this pretty fool-proof for an amature?

Two answers.

1) For pretty much everyone except marchyman.
Shouldn't be problem. The gloves I've seen draw less than three amps and the aux jack will support at least 5 amps.

2) For marchyman :wave .
Shouldn't be a problem. CANBUS actually doesn't care how much amperage you draw. CANBUS is just a computer network that connects the distributed control computers on the bike. The ZFE (Zentrale Fahrzeugelektronik, or Central Chassis Electronics - one of the distributed computers) controls the lights, heated accessories, horn, radio, accessory socket, and cruise control based on inputs from handlebar switches and the like. Individual control inputs go directly to ZFE, and control outputs go from ZFE to individual components (bulbs, heated grips, aux power, etc.). There are no fuses on the RT. The ZFE monitors the current output going to the aux power jack and uses a "crowbar" circuit to shut down the aux outlet on over current. That happens somewhere between 5 and 10 amps.

[markgoodrich]

An answer to your other question: if you decide to add a fused power block, it's dirt simple, depending on what you buy. A Touratech version comes with a built-in relay, has room for five different add-ons. All you have to do is find a place to mount it (under the seat will do) and then run one wire to a hot switched wire, such as the rear acc outlet if you have it, and splice it in. Lots of folks use the Centech brand; I don't know if it has its own relay or not.

If you are even moderately able to use a screwdriver and sledge hammer, you can make your own for a few bucks by following the directions shown in the link I'll attach at the end of this note. I've done it, but installed the strip in a Radio Shack "project box"...just a little plastic box...drilled holes in each end for wires to go through, attached the metal strip to the inside of the TOP of the box via velcro then after adding all the wiring sealed the holes with silicone and held the box shut with a zip tie. All this sealing was probably overkill. I don't have the strip any more, or I'd post a photo of it.

http://www.fjrtech.com/getdbitem.cfm?item=25

[MrGrocer]

Your heated gloves might work through the outlet; that being said they do draw a lot of power.

The second question; The fusebox is so simple to install its funny. I put an electrical connections fusebox and ground block (ooooh fancy) in the space where that pitiful tool kit goes for less than $75 bucks and 15 minutes of work. Its key hot and chimp simple to install.

The best thing about the fusebox is that it permits the electrically disabled, like me, to add any farkle professionally and get awesome results. Without any hassle and just some more tie wraps and a bit of wire-hiding ingenuity I've added:

Direct GPS Power
PIAA 510 driving lamps
A wired topcase to charge and refresh blackberry, IPOD, etc.
Stebel (There's a locomotive behind you) horn.
Autocom in the topcase
Switches for the lamps
Heated clothing

I would have at least needed expert pictures and some cross your fingers splicing and hassle to do all this without a fusebox. Instead I basically wish for something and its on without a single visible wire added and no crows nest around the battery.

[Semper_Fi]

Two answers.

1) For pretty much everyone except marchyman.....

2) For marchyman :wave ......Shouldn't be a problem. CANBUS actually doesn't care....


THAT was funny!!:thumb

[ricoshay]

Will CANBUS (2007 R1200RT) get mad if I get an adaptor and plug my heated gloves into an auxilary jack? I don't use a heated jacket or anything other than the gloves. I'm not sure what amperage they draw or what CANBUS will tolerate.

Do I need to add a fuse block and if so, is it better to have a dealer do it or is this pretty fool-proof for an amature?

I have run a 77-watt Gerbing jacket with a Heat-Troller through my CanBus/ZFE controlled front receptacle for 2 years now with no problems. Your gloves should be a piece of cake. :thumb

Just-in-Case, I rewired my rear receptacle through a fuse block from PEP Boys directly to the battery. So far, I've only used this always hot receptacle to plug-in my Battery Tender, but if my front socket ever does trip, I'll be able to use the rear socket.

[markgoodrich]

Perfesser, another option if you're REALLY challenged regarding wires is to attend the January tech day in Austin. I'll be there, and there will be lots of other guys around to keep me from touching your bike and burning it to the ground.

[marchyman]

2) For marchyman :wave .


:nyah :nyah :nyah :laugh

I think I'll go away and hide, now. :D

// marc

[bjhughes]

I just wired up a second Powerlet outlet with BMW style plug directly to the battery. I use this for electrics, Slime pump, battery tender, etc.

[indycar]

Without any hassle and just some more tie wraps and a bit of wire-hiding ingenuity I've added:

A wired topcase to charge and refresh blackberry, IPOD, etc.



Whaa?? Please do tell :)

[MrGrocer]

This is actually very simple. Get a tankbag wiring kit from your dealer (electrical connections has one for about $29. Hook the wires to tour fusebox. Take a coat hanger and some twine and snake the powered end under the luggage rack that is covered by the passenger seat. Heck if you use a passenger set just run it under the seat and snap the seat back on! Sneak the cable in the gap used to hold up the topcase in back.

Now drill a hole in the bottom of the top case and install the tank bag power noogie. Then drill another hole and run the autocom cables out. Seal the autocom holes with black silicone.

I even have a false bottom. My top case has:

4 whopping 12v outlets!
Autocom w bluetooth capability for blackberry and GPS( one cable out gives me high-fi, telephone and talking GPS signal!)
IPOD (VOX lowering through autocom)
Chargers for everything
Compressor
Anything else that runs off of 12v. Use your imagination here.

The topcase is the best place to hide everything and pack it in flat so it doesn't affect storage space too much.

[indycar]

Thanks! :thumb

As Hedely Lamarr in Blazzing Saddles would say: "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

:)

[mpgolightly]

I have an 08 R1200GS with the factory Aux canbus outlet. The dealership told me, and I have read this also in the Aerostich catalog, the Canbus will support either gloves or jacket, but not both at same time. The amperage draw is over or could be over 5amps. So.. for the 15-20 dollars I bought a second BMW outlet and installed it next to the factory outlet and connected it directly to the battery, no problems works fine.

I wear the gerbing jacket liner and the gloves.

[danalbertson]

The Gerbing provided fused pigtail has served me well. Wired directly to the battery it will power the entire set of heated clothing from the gloves down.

With easily sourced adapters it can be used for battery tender or slime pump so one pigtail can to the job of all accessories, and this bypasses the canbus system.

http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15679&stc=1&d=1230477335

[LuckyLeif]

I have powered my Gerbing jacket thru either the Gerbing fused pigtail direct to the battery or thru the cockpit recepticle on my 07 RT. Either works just fine, but I find the pigtail to be more convenient as I can use the cockpit plug for other devices.