Torque specs etc needed.

[DanRT02]

I don't have my manual yet, it's on it's way but I need to know what the torque value should be for the final drive drain plug and the fill plug.

Also, how do I check the tyranny fluid level and what would be the torque values for that drain and fill plugs.

I will be running 20W50 oil in this R1150RT. This being my first BMW what brand oil do you guys like best. Mobil 1??? or what?

Thanks

[bikerfish1100]

Oil-Head Specs – torque values, clearances, capacities, etc.
Here is a torque chart for BMW oil heads


BMW Boxer Data
R1100RT / R1100RS / R1100GS / R1100R / R850R
Unit or should be same for most everything for your 1150, certainly for those numbers you werre looking for.
Designation Data Spec.
Engine (incl. filter) 4 qt
Engine (w/out filter) 3.7 qt.
Gearbox fresh fill 1.1 qt.
change 0.85 qt.
Rear wheel drive
fresh fill 0.26 qt.
change 0.25 qt.
Valve clearance
measured cold, max. 35-deg C.
Intake 0.006 in.
Exhaust 0.012 in.
Spark plugs
Bosch FR5DTC
electrode gap 0.032 in.
limit of wear 0.04 in.
Engine Idle Speed 1000 +/- 150 rpm
CO value
without catalytic converter 1.5 +/- 0.5 Vol %
Cable adjustment - for increased cold starting speed
without cable junction < 0.04 in. play
with cable junction no backlash
Throttle (without cable junction)
gas cable (one piece) ca. 0.02 in. play
connecting cable no backlash
Throttle (with cable junction)
gas cable (one piece) ca. 0.02 in. play
junction cable no backlash
Clutch cable adjustment
at lever 0.28 in.
wire cable at handle bar lever 0.48 in.

BMW Boxer Data Metric
R1100RT / R1100RS / R1100GS / R1100R / R850R
Unit or
Designation Data Spec.
Engine (incl. filter) 3.75 liter
Engine (w/out filter) 3.5 liter
Gearbox fresh fill 1.0 liter
change 0.8 liter
Rear wheel drive (Differential)
fresh fill 0.25 liter
change 0.23 liter
Valve clearance
measured cold, max. 35-deg C.
Intake 0.15 mm
Exhaust 0.30 mm
Spark plugs
Bosch FR5DTC
electrode gap 0.8 mm
limit of wear 1.0 mm
Engine Idle Speed 1000 +/- 150 rpm
CO value
without catalytic converter 1.5 +/- 0.5 Vol %
Cable adjustment - for increased cold starting speed
without cable junction < 1 mm play
with cable junction no backlash
Throttle (without cable junction)
gas cable (one piece) ca. 0.5 mm play
connecting cable no backlash
Throttle (with cable junction)
gas cable (one piece) ca. 0.5 mm play
junction cable no backlash
Clutch cable adjustment
at lever 7.0 mm
wire cable at handle bar lever 12.0 mm

Tightening torques
These have been converted from Nm (Newton meters) to
the nearest 0.5 ft.lb. (foot pounds) by dividing Nm by 1.355.
Oil Filter 8 ft.lb
Engine oil drain plug 23.5 ft.lb.
Gearbox oil drain plug 17 ft.lb.
Rear wheel drive oil drain plug 17 ft.lb.
Locknut valve adjust 6 ft.lb.
Cylinder head cover 6 ft.lb.
Generator to bracket 14.5 ft.lb.
Tension multiple ribbed belt (Poly-V) 6 ft.lb.
Spark plugs 14.5 ft.lb.
Fuel tank to rear frame 16 ft.lb.
Fuel pump to tank 4.5 ft.lb.
Adjustable handle bars 14.5 ft.lb.
Quick release axle thread
(axial) 22 ft.lb.
Quick release axle clamp 16 ft.lb.
Brake caliper—front / rear 29.5 ft.lb.
Bearing bolt swingarm to gearbox/rear axle
(Locktite 2701) 110.5 ft.lb.
Idler bearing pinion on swinging arm on
gearbox/rear wheel drive
(Locktite 2701) 5 ft.lb.
Locknut (Locktite 2701) 77.5 ft.lb.
Rear wheel retaining studs 77.5 ft.lb.
Tube clips to air intake pipe 1.5 ft.lb.
Screw connect spring strut on control arm
(RS with side bearing) 31.5 ft.lb.
M 10 Screw 29.5 ft.lb.
Tighten cylinder head -- done only at 600 miles,
four nuts, do one nut at a time, loosen nut and
torque to 15 ft. lb., then turn nut an additional
180 degrees (called torsion angle)

Tightening torques
Metric
Oil filter 11 Nm
Engine oil drain plug 32 Nm
Gearbox oil drain plug 23 Nm
Rear wheel drive oil drain plug 23 Nm
Locknut valve adjust 8 Nm
Cylinder head cover 8 Nm
Generator to bracket 20 Nm
Tension multiple ripped belt
(Poly-V) 8 Nm
Spark plugs 20 Nm
Fuel tank to rear frame 22 Nm
Fuel pump to tank 6 Nm
Adjustable handle bars 20 Nm
Quick release axle thread
(axial) 30 Nm
Quick release axle clamp 22 Nm
Brake caliper -- front / rear 40 Nm
Bearing bolt swingarm to gearbox / rear axle
(Locktite 2701 clean thread 150 Nm
Idler bearing pinon on swinging arm on
gearbox/rear wheel drive
(Locktite 2701) 7 Nm
Locknut (Locktite 2701)
clean thread 105 Nm
Rear wheel retaining studs 105 Nm
Tube clips to air intake pipe 2 Nm
Screw connect spring strut on control arm
(RS with side bearing)
8.8 screw 43 Nm
M 10 Screw 40 Nm
Tighten cylinder head -- done only at 600 miles,
four nuts, do one nut at a time, loosen nut and
torque to 20 Nm., then turn nut an additional
180 degrees (called torsion angle)

Dali Meeow's additional data -- metric and English
Gap between lower rocker arm bearing carrier
and rocker arm
(manual pp.11.40) 0.05 - 0.40 mm
(Adjust to the minimum gap for
much quieter engine) .002 - .016 in.
Torque for T45 torx screws on the lower
rocker arm bearing carrier 18 Nm 13 ft.lb.

tranny fluid- fill to bottom of fill threads when on c-stand. when oil just begins to dribble on the floor, that's full.

[DanRT02]

That's a great help. Thanks.

Where would I find the fill for the tranny?

[GlobalRider]

I don't have my manual yet, it's on it's way but I need to know what the torque value should be for the final drive drain plug and the fill plug.

If they are the same as my R1150 GS Adventure and according to the on-line parts catalog, they are: 198 lbf.in. for the both of them.

In the mean time, you can download an OEM BMW Repair Manual (http://www.repairmanualclub.com/index.php?cid=3) for free.

[GrantMacEachern]

hi. just did the same job on my R1150 GS today. While the RT and GS may have different torque specs for the FD and Tranny fill/drain plugs I'll say this:
The above tables were noted for 1100 series oilheads according to the headings. From the BMW Maintenance DVD the torque tables indicate for an 1150GS the FD drain and fill plug is 23Nm and the Transmission drain and fill plugs are 30Nm.
New crush washers naturally.
I hope this isn't confusing but I noticed the charts above list both at 23Nm. Double check in your manual when it arrives.

[DanRT02]

Thanks for the help. I now have a manual and it's actually better than I thought it would be.

[mbellantone]

hey guys, i know my 2000 R1100sa is not listed on "Bikerfish's" torque values, but is my transmission so different from the rest that the torque value of 23Nm that he states as opposed to 55Nm that my factory manual is stating?

Can someone clear this up?

Thanks,

Michael

[PGlaves]

If they are the same as my R1150 GS Adventure and according to the on-line parts catalog, they are: 198 lbf.in. for the both of them.


Be careful. I don't know for sure what lbf.in. means but it sure isn't foot pounds. Inch pounds probably.

[mbellantone]

any thoughts on my post about the discrepancy between the 55nm torque on my oem manual and the 23 specified by "Bikerfish"?

[bikerfish1100]

i ride a R11S as well. have never used the torque specs for trans drain/fill plugs. drain has almost no room for getting a t-wrench in there anyway. i just go "tight. like, real tight" for the drain, and "snug enough to stay in place" for the fill.

fwiw- I first found that chart listed on the Pelicanparts R11S site.

[BubbaZanetti]

i ride a R11S as well. have never used the torque specs for trans drain/fill plugs. drain has almost no room for getting a t-wrench in there anyway. i just go "tight. like, real tight" for the drain, and "snug enough to stay in place" for the fill.

fwiw- I first found that chart listed on the Pelicanparts R11S site.

well, put, after my couple changes I just do it by feel, esp if there's a crush washer there.

[JimMoore]

i ride a R11S as well. have never used the torque specs for trans drain/fill plugs. drain has almost no room for getting a t-wrench in there anyway. i just go "tight. like, real tight" for the drain, and "snug enough to stay in place" for the fill.

fwiw- I first found that chart listed on the Pelicanparts R11S site.

Where do you drain the tranny on the S? Is it the big hex? I could never get that thing off. I ended up siphoning the tranny fluid out with a piece of clear fuel line.

[bikerfish1100]

Where do you drain the tranny on the S? Is it the big hex? I could never get that thing off. I ended up siphoning the tranny fluid out with a piece of clear fuel line.

yeah, its the biga$$ hexhead nut underneath the right side of the trans. have to cut down an allen (14mm?) to a 2" stubby, and then use it in a socket.

[BubbaZanetti]

yeah, its the biga$$ hexhead nut underneath the right side of the trans. have to cut down an allen (14mm?) to a 2" stubby, and then use it in a socket.

another good option is to buy 2 14mm nuts and screw them together on a threaded rod. you can then take a 14 mm wrench to one of the nuts.

[mbellantone]

another good option is to buy 2 14mm nuts and screw them together on a threaded rod. you can then take a 14 mm wrench to one of the nuts.

Bubba, I just got back from the hardware store as your recommendation was just what I was doing; one problem with that is without welding the two nuts to the bolt, (or having a reverse threaded bolt) the nuts will back out off the bolt when loosening the plug.

A mechanic friend of mine, (his day job) is taking my two 14mm nuts on 14mm bolt head and welding the three to a 14mm open end. Should fit the bill.

[BubbaZanetti]

Bubba, I just got back from the hardware store as your recommendation was just what I was doing; one problem with that is without welding the two nuts to the bolt, (or having a reverse threaded bolt) the nuts will back out off the bolt when loosening the plug.

A mechanic friend of mine, (his day job) is taking my two 14mm nuts on 14mm bolt head and welding the three to a 14mm open end. Should fit the bill.

lol, yah, they work better when secured, haha.


btw, you're right up the road from me, well, where my office is anyway, in Ft Lee