Dealer Helpfullness

[hintzir09]

After watching Jim VonBaden's video for the maintenance on a R1200 I put together the list I don't have in order to perform the services.

I called my dealer to get these items and wasn't impressed with the help.

1) crush washers for drain/fill plug for the transmission fluid= dealer said there were not crush washers for my GSA
2) clutch and brake removal tool for the master cyclinder= dealer said I didn't need one of these
3) nut for link pin of the final drive= said I should have the service change the final drive fluid

So here's a list of the things I need, PLEASE tell me where I should get them or where you have bought them.

1) crush washers for drain/fill plug for transmission fluid
2) clutch and brake removal tool
3) spark plug wire puller
4) nut for link pin for final drive
5) mini stan funnel used for bleeding brakes

[MrGrocer]

OK, first things. Don't buy tools from a dealer unless you're desperate. I think the sparkplug tool is $80 or sumthin... Pure madness.

I pretty much keep a tool kit on my GS to tear apart the whole bike. There's a list floating around here... and its a good one. While putting it together I found...

1. www.marcparnes.com is the source for a cheap metal BMW plug puller. I mean cheap, too.
2. Get his GS wheel removal tool at the same time, its cool and you can impress your friends.
3. www.beemerboneyard.com sells packages that contain 100% of everything you need to do a 12 or 24 service. Also the sell a $12 steel filter wrench included in their master oil change kit. Wrench, gaskets, filters for four changes for $75!
4. www.speedbleeder.com! You need a whosit for whatchit? get spleed bleeders and forget the whole mess.

[MrGrocer]

What year GSA do you have. On my 08, it is no longer necessary to remove the bolt from the top of the final drive. Jus t remove the wheel and ABS sensor and fill.

Personally, I would leave the removal of the shaft to a dealer

[aaaaaa]

OK, first things. Don't buy tools from a dealer unless you're desperate. I think the sparkplug tool is $80 or sumthin... Pure madness.

I pretty much keep a tool kit on my GS to tear apart the whole bike. There's a list floating around here... and its a good one. While putting it together I found...

1. www.marcparnes.com is the source for a cheap metal BMW plug puller. I mean cheap, too.
2. Get his GS wheel removal tool at the same time, its cool and you can impress your friends.
3. www.beemerboneyard.com sells packages that contain 100% of everything you need to do a 12 or 24 service. Also the sell a $12 steel filter wrench included in their master oil change kit. Wrench, gaskets, filters for four changes for $75!
4. www.speedbleeder.com! You need a whosit for whatchit? get spleed bleeders and forget the whole mess. Why do you need to carry tools to tear the whole bike apart?
robert

[marchyman]

1) crush washers for drain/fill plug for the transmission fluid= dealer said there were not crush washers for my GSA


The parts book shows the drain plug and crush washer as one piece. A good dealer, however, will know the part number for a replacement crush washer. You may have to cut the old washer off of the plug -- it is a very tight fit. I forget if it is the 14mm or the 18mm ring that you need.


2) clutch and brake removal tool for the master cyclinder= dealer said I didn't need one of these


The dealer is correct. Use your fingers. That's all I've ever needed to open mine.


3) nut for link pin of the final drive= said I should have the service change the final drive fluid


If your FD drain plug is on the bottom instead of the 9 O'clock position then you don't need the nut because you won't have to pivot the FD to drain the fluid. If you do need the nut see below.


1) crush washers for drain/fill plug for transmission fluid


On my '05 I believe I use 07 11 9 963 200 and 07 11 9 963 300


2) clutch and brake removal tool


Don't need it.


3) spark plug wire puller


Marc Parnes (already mentioned) makes a nice one. Or you can use a couple of screw drivers if you're careful. Be sure to first disconnect the wire from the coil before removing the coil. Oh, and check in your tool tray... you may have received a plastic coil remover with the bike.


4) nut for link pin for final drive


If you need one I believe it is part number 07-12-9-964-676 but I'm not 100% sure of that. I'm looking at an old packing list and am not 100% sure I'm looking at the correct nut.


5) mini stan funnel used for bleeding brakes


If you need one (does your bike have the electro assist servo brakes?) you make it yourself. Instructions on the web. Hint: just about any rubber stopper of the proper diameter will do and likely cost you 1/10 the price of the BMW plug.

// marc

[MrGrocer]

Why do you need to carry tools to tear the whole bike apart?
robert


Oh, I never said I needed all those tools but its hard to stop once you get into a serious tool collecting frenzy. I had all the wrenches and keys, I've always wanted a set of torx sockets and the only reason is to do eurobike speedy work. I got a wheel removal tool cause it was cheap and cool while buying a cheap plug puller (which I do need.)

Anyway, it all fits in a tool roll and I'm notorious for filling up empty space and the GS has a LOT of empty space...

So, since the tool kit on my bike was a joke, I decided to assemble a good tool kit. All in, it was less than $100 and it will motivate me to do more of my own maintenance.

[hlothery]

Oh,, I've always wanted a set of torx sockets and the only reason is to do eurobike speedy work. .

Interestingly, I bought my Torx wrench set to work on my first Harley. :dunno

[MrGrocer]

I do like the concept. Now, Basically, I can slide around with 1 ratchet an adapter and an extension with one little bike specific socket set and do just about anything I want. and it works good. They're hard to round off and having the torque of the socket wrench is just capital.

I'm glad the eurpoeans started the thing and I'm glad harley has seen the sense in it.

[soffiler]

...I'm glad the eurpoeans started the thing and I'm glad harley has seen the sense in it.

Europeans? Torx was developed right here in the good old US of A by Camcar Textron out of Rockford, Ill. I clearly remember some of their early sales presentations from the mid-1980's when I was working for a major supplier to the US automotive industry.

[MrGrocer]

Yep, but the eurobikes are the first motorcycles I've seen really take advantage of Torx, using tham all over the bike and such. I do like them very much.

[soffiler]

Yep, but the eurobikes are the first motorcycles I've seen really take advantage of Torx, using tham all over the bike and such. I do like them very much.

OK, that you've seen, fair enough. Rest assured they've been around since the 80's in the USA on stuff that apparently you haven't seen.