View Full Version : Nuclear Weapons Managment (DoD Report)
For those with an interest in National Security -
The Schlesinger Report was just published. Dealing with Nuclear Weapons Management, this 90 page document gives an indepth analysis on the state of our Country's Nuclear mission.
http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=4284
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/09/mil-080912-dod01.htm
FWIW
J.K. :wow
P.S. Full transcript can be found here: http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/Phase_I_Report_Sept_10.pdf .
BeemerMike
09-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Yes, ever since the Minot "incident" I always check my bike thoroughly before every ride to make sure I don't have any unauthorized nuclear weapons or components on board. :rolleyes
rocketman
09-25-2008, 12:05 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[the President calls the Soviet Premier]
President Merkin Muffley: [to Kissoff] Hello?... Uh... Hello D- uh hello Dmitri? Listen uh uh I can't hear too well. Do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little?... Oh-ho, that's much better... yeah... huh... yes... Fine, I can hear you now, Dmitri... Clear and plain and coming through fine... I'm coming through fine, too, eh?... Good, then... well, then, as you say, we're both coming through fine... Good... Well, it's good that you're fine and... and I'm fine... I agree with you, it's great to be fine... a-ha-ha-ha-ha... Now then, Dmitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the Bomb... The *Bomb*, Dmitri... The *hydrogen* bomb!... Well now, what happened is... ahm... one of our base commanders, he had a sort of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny. And, ah... he went and did a silly thing... Well, I'll tell you what he did. He ordered his planes... to attack your country... Ah... Well, let me finish, Dmitri... Let me finish, Dmitri... Well listen, how do you think I feel about it?... Can you *imagine* how I feel about it, Dmitri?... Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello?... *Of course* I like to speak to you!... *Of course* I like to say hello!... Not now, but anytime, Dmitri. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a *friendly* call. Of course it's a friendly call... Listen, if it wasn't friendly... you probably wouldn't have even got it... They will *not* reach their targets for at least another hour... I am... I am positive, Dmitri... Listen, I've been all over this with your ambassador. It is not a trick... Well, I'll tell you. We'd like to give your air staff a complete run-down on the targets, the flight plans, and the defensive systems of the planes... Yes! I mean i-i-i-if we're unable to recall the planes, then... I'd say that, ah... well, ah... we're just gonna have to help you destroy them, Dmitri... I know they're our boys... All right, well listen now. Who should we call?... *Who* should we call, Dmitri? The... wha-whe, the People... you, sorry, you faded away there... The People's Central Air Defense Headquarters... Where is that, Dmitri?... In Omsk... Right... Yes... Oh, you'll call them first, will you?... Uh-huh... Listen, do you happen to have the phone number on you, Dmitri?... Whe-ah, what? I see, just ask for Omsk information... Ah-ah-eh-uhm-hm... I'm sorry, too, Dmitri... I'm very sorry... *All right*, you're sorrier than I am, but I am as sorry as well... I am as sorry as you are, Dmitri! Don't say that you're more sorry than I am, because I'm capable of being just as sorry as you are... So we're both sorry, all right?... All right.
Bob1100RTC
09-25-2008, 04:47 PM
Loved Slim Pickens riding that nuke down.
rocketman
09-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Major T. J. "King" Kong: Well, boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing... but we got one little budge on them Rooskies. At this height why they might harpoon us but they dang sure ain't gonna spot us on no radar screen!
Stay on the bomb run, boys! I'm gonna get them doors open if it harelips ever'body on Bear Creek!
:laugh
RM
Pat Carol
09-25-2008, 05:50 PM
SAC will be back. Nothing worse than a SAC trained killer.
PC/ USAF Retired
108625
09-25-2008, 07:49 PM
SAC will be back. Nothing worse than a SAC trained killer.
PC/ USAF Retired
Pat,
Remember this "unofficial" SAC logo? The gauntled fist clenching a *ahem* sack, and the words "To err is human, to forgive is not SAC policy".
Bob
USAF Retired
Pat Carol
09-25-2008, 08:16 PM
Pat,
Remember this "unofficial" SAC logo? The gauntled fist clenching a *ahem* sack, and the words "To err is human, to forgive is not SAC policy".
Bob
USAF Retired
Oh Yes! How could I forget. I was in TAC and then ACC in my Air Force Career. We used to razz the SAC guy's. Man! they were really wrapped tight. Bottom line though, they were great folk's to work with. Professional in every way. They had to be with the job they were responsible for.
I am not kidding about the return of SAC or a form of it. Secretary Gates has taken nuke responsibility away from the Space Command. He also fired some heavy stars from the Pentagon.
Take Care
Pat Carol
108625
09-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Same here (TAC and ACC, with USAFE and PACAF as well).
I was in RED HORSE almost my entire career, one of the best parts of that was going TDY all over and getting to see a wide variety of different people working at so many different jobs. Not just Air Force but Army, Navy, and Marines.
You're right, they had a different mindset, and definitely needed it. I think we were better off organized that way. It's hard to imagine preparing your entire career for a single task you hope you never have to carry out.
Bob
130253
09-26-2008, 07:23 AM
When I was in the SAC, the offical motto was "Peace is our profession."
To which we added "War is our game."
WildBlue
09-26-2008, 08:25 AM
I was relegated to USAFE and AMC. :(
Although while in USAFE I was part AMC part SOG...
I was relegated to USAFE and AMC. :(
Although while in USAFE I was part AMC part SOG...
Having commanded and conducted the transportation of Nuclear Weapons across the country in the mid-80s (P-Nav mission), I've experienced and enforced "no lone zones."
Reading Schlesinger's report, I was amazed that Nuclear command and control was allowed to become so fragmented in just twenty short years.
J.K. :wow
P.S. It gives you that healthy glow in the dark that aids night riding w/o lights.
vBulletin® v3.8.6, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.