2005 Nationals location best guess [Archive]

BradfordBenn

06-20-2004, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Dark Cloud
Blackhills South Dakota could be an option. JON

Not for me, I still won't go to South Dakota.

Me, I am hoping for Minnesota or the Upper Penisula of Michigan. Places I haven't been yet but look great!

Visian

06-21-2004, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Dark Cloud
Follows a pattern of two rally's in the east and one out west.

First guess, northeast, possibly Maine.

Second guess, east of the Smokies.

http://www.foodsubs.com/Photos/beans-babylimafresh.jpg

MarkF

06-21-2004, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Dark Cloud
First guess, northeast, possibly Maine.

Second guess, east of the Smokies.

JON

I'll go to Maine or New Hampshire. Maybe the Maritimes!

MarkF

dzimbric

06-22-2004, 07:31 AM

Tennesee or maybe VA. I just can't really see a national in Kansas. That woiuld be like having one in Northern IN.

NJ_Bob

06-22-2004, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by MarkF
Dallas/Forth Worth? In July?

MarkF

P.S. July is always a bad month for me.

I hope not! Some place that does not require air conditioning during the rally would be nice. This eliminates DFW from April through October.

Sue

06-23-2004, 08:31 PM

The Rally Chairs are a really incredibly cool couple.

Hee hee hee

Okay -- Sue & Brian Manke are the Chairpeople.

Be thinking Beemerville - USA.
(And NOT the one in New Jersey!)

RTRandy

06-23-2004, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by NJ_Bob
I hope not! Some place that does not require air conditioning during the rally would be nice. This eliminates DFW from April through October.

Amen to that ! I live in Dallas and trust me, you don't want to be at a rally in Dallas probably ever.
Besides the heat, there's just too much darn traffic. I have more trouble riding to bike night here than I will riding to Spokane.

Hill Country - Yes! Big Bend - Yes !
Dallas, No Way Jose!

New England in July sounds a whole lot better if you ask me.

RevWillie

06-24-2004, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Sue Rihn-Manke

Be thinking Beemerville - USA.
(And NOT the one in New Jersey!)

Hmm, where do they make BMW's in the US?
......Well, ... Spartanburg, SC is a big auto manufacturing facility for them....could it be a Rally return to the SouthEast?

Hey, the '74 National at Table Rock.SC was a good one! It was my first rally,it was in the woods, and I had a great time. Got me coming back for a lot more Nationals.

If the Rally is in the mountains surrounding Spartanburg and Greenville, I think we could have a great time. Nice roads and it is not so hot in the mountians. Would work for me.....:D

osceola

06-24-2004, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Sue Rihn-Manke
The Rally Chairs are a really incredibly cool couple.

Hee hee hee

Okay -- Sue & Brian Manke are the Chairpeople.

Be thinking Beemerville - USA.
(And NOT the one in New Jersey!)

My Guess,

Manke's are Chairs..........
They live in Wisconsin.............
Wisconsin BMW rally site is where the 2005 MOA National will be,
My Guess,
Wicconsin Dells,WI :D :clap

DarkCloud

06-24-2004, 08:56 PM

Sue, will Beemerville be to BMW's as what Woodstock was to Rock and Roll?

JON

Sue

06-25-2004, 12:37 PM

Dark Cloud (Jon) inquired
Sue, will Beemerville be to BMW's as what Woodstock was to Rock and Roll?

Hmmmmm......
Very Good Guess!
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

Sue

Unregistered

07-03-2004, 11:27 PM

well no matter where it will be....I know one thing for sure. I will be there. And one thing that I am not totaly sure of....The Alman Bros. Band may or may not be there. whooo hoooo

MN86KRT

07-04-2004, 06:32 AM

Colorado or western Wyoming would be great. My guess is somewhere in the midwest but I've been wrong the last two years.

Helen

07-04-2004, 08:59 AM

I'm sure, no matter where it is it will be an ULTIMATELY C O O L rally!!! Sue and Brian did GREAT things with Midland...What a party! There is no way the 2005 rally could not be SUPER with those 2 at the helm... no matter where it is!

Remember the excellent music at Midland!!!

RHautau

07-04-2004, 04:30 PM

Best imformation I hear is that it will be in the mid Ohio area just off I 75. I don't know about the particuliar site as being great for riding in that immediate area (because it is not) but like Midland and DuQuoin before that, half the fun is the "Ride to the National"

Just think about a ride around the Great Lakes region and you all will be OK.

Ride safe,
Mr. Ambassador:clap :)

Hodag

07-04-2004, 05:55 PM

Isn't there a "Beemerville" in the midwest?? I thought I remember reading a SS1000 ride report with the destination being there??
Is Beemerville an actual place or just a state of mind??
Mark

motofranz

07-04-2004, 07:32 PM

won't be in hawaii... :)

BradfordBenn

07-04-2004, 07:39 PM

BoxerGrrrrrrrlie road to there as part of her SS1K.

Sue

07-05-2004, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Mark11LT

Is Beemerville an actual place or just a state of mind??
Mark

For the 05 National - "BEEMERVILLE" is a state of mind.

:brow

Sue
.............Looking forward to our ride to Spokane and seeing all of our friends next week. Putting on a new tire tomorrow, and bought a radar detector (ahem) yesterday. Ya-HOO!!!

Hawk Hawthorne

07-05-2004, 10:26 AM

OK all you speculators. I may get my wings clipped by my fellow Board members, but I don't think so. We have debated this "next Rally site" announcement business for a while now. I think we will, in the not too distant future, give longer notice as to the future rally locations. I hope so, I favor it.

Having said that, my "educated guess" is that the '05 Rally will be east of the Mississippi and north of Dixie. So there. I did it. Persecute me.

:dunno :clap :bliss

BradfordBenn

07-05-2004, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Hawk Hawthorne
Having said that, my "educated guess" is that the '05 Rally will be east of the Mississippi and north of Dixie.

Are you using the Mason-Dixon line as the definition of Dixie?

Hawk Hawthorne

07-05-2004, 10:48 AM

BradfordBenn: Let's just say north of the Ohio River.... :p

BradfordBenn

07-05-2004, 11:02 AM

That narrows it down to:

a very small section Minnesota
Illinois
Michigan
Indiana
Wisconsin
Ohio
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
Vermont
New Hampshire
Connecticut
Massachusetts
Maine
Rhode Island
Lots of Canada

HMMM.....:dunno

Rob Nye

07-05-2004, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Hawk Hawthorne
OK all you speculators. I may get my wings clipped by my fellow Board members, but I don't think so. We have debated this "next Rally site" announcement business for a while now. I think we will, in the not too distant future, give longer notice as to the future rally locations. I hope so, I favor it.

Having said that, my "educated guess" is that the '05 Rally will be east of the Mississippi and north of Dixie. So there. I did it. Persecute me.

:dunno :clap :bliss

For folks playing along at home, some time ago the rally site selection committee divided North America into zones.

While I believe for operational reasons the exact sites must remain held until the prior rally. I support the distribution of which zones we will be visiting as the sites are booked. I see no real benefit to not letting folks know that next year we will be in zone x, 06 in zone y etc.

In other words I support our President in giving folks information on future rally plans, but I hesitate in announcing the city / state.

Zones should be plenty.

Comments?

Best,

Hawk Hawthorne

07-05-2004, 01:37 PM

Rob Nye: I sure have no problem releasing zones for future rallies. Let's discuss with Rally Site Team at Spokane....

Gee, should I tell BradfordBenn it's west of New York and south of Canada?...:brow

That's all ya get, Brad..!:confused:

Braddog

07-05-2004, 03:11 PM

OK, so it's looking more and more like I'll be attending my first national rally in 2005.

For me, (and so many others), it's not the miles, it's the time. It's looking more and more that the national will be closer for me than it's been for the last few years.

TheSuperScoot

07-05-2004, 03:19 PM

Time to really expand our horizons: How about the first ever BMW INTER PLANETARY Rally! I vote for Mars, Venus, and Moon, all an easy ride from Pittsburgh, PA.

TB
Building a deck on the house instead of attending the Spokane rally. What am I, NUTS??

BradfordBenn

07-05-2004, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Hawk Hawthorne
Gee, should I tell BradfordBenn it's west of New York and south of Canada?...:brow

That's all ya get, Brad..!:confused:

See that spoils all the fun. :P

As is it looks like it is toooooo close to home.

JetDoc

07-05-2004, 04:49 PM

OK, Let’s recap… The 2005 rally will be somewhere east of the Mississippi, north of the Ohio, west of New York and south of Canada.

I’m getting an impression that next years’ rally will be mostly flat, hot, and uncomfortably humid in July. Every time I go back there, I’m reminded of why I left the Midwest in the first place. :doh

Hawk Hawthorne

07-06-2004, 08:24 AM

BradfordBenn & Jet Doc: Too close to home? Too flat and hot? Geez, I rode to Rhinebeck via Michigan, Ontario, VT, NH, ME, CT MA, and RI. It was a longgg ride to NY! And pleasant temps. Gotta get creative! :rofl

BradfordBenn

07-06-2004, 08:53 AM

Yup, sounds like my 1,000 ride to get gas at the corner station. By way of Chicago, St. Louis, Dayton, and Toledo:eek

kbasa

07-06-2004, 09:22 AM

Hmmm. I'm going to have to cross eastern Colorado, Kansas and Missouri again.....

Bleah.

refinger

07-06-2004, 09:26 AM

First guess: Ozarks

2nd Maine/NH/Vermont

3rd South Carolina/Tennessee

refinger

07-06-2004, 09:29 AM

Whoops ...shoulda read page 3 before I guessed.

BradfordBenn

07-06-2004, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by KBasa
Hmmm. I'm going to have to cross eastern Colorado, Kansas and Missouri again.....

Bleah.

Go across the northern route...

kbasa

07-06-2004, 12:02 PM

Huge detour. BTDT. No thanks.

In all actuality, the side roads in Kansas are better than the interstate. It's the crosswinds that drive me nuts.

osceola

07-06-2004, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by JetDoc
OK, Let’s recap… The 2005 rally will be somewhere east of the Mississippi, north of the Ohio, west of New York and south of Canada.

I’m getting an impression that next years’ rally will be mostly flat, hot, and uncomfortably humid in July. Every time I go back there, I’m reminded of why I left the Midwest in the first place. :doh

My best educated guess up to now is:

Wisconsin
Indiana
Illinois

We'll see................................

Visian

07-09-2004, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by KBasa
In all actuality, the side roads in Kansas are better than the interstate.

US24 parallels I-70 just to the north. Great road (for Kansas)... but there *is* patrol... DAMHIKT.

Ian

JohnM

07-09-2004, 03:09 PM

Lake Geneva, Wisc?

If it is in Wisconsin, I wish its timing would be in conjunction with something happening at Road America. Always wanted to attend an event there ... preferably M/C-related.

username

07-09-2004, 03:14 PM

come down across arizona and new mexico. avoid north texas, stay south. the ride'll suck only from san antonio to houston. west texas mountains, hill country, east texas pine forests. then go up through louisiana and arkansas and get yer ozark miles.

there are all sorts of ways to avoid kansas, eastern colorado, and whatever else is up there, and flat, and straight. you just need plenty of time. "uh boss, im going to be 'remote officing' for two months next summer."

:D

Originally posted by KBasa
Hmmm. I'm going to have to cross eastern Colorado, Kansas and Missouri again.....

Bleah.

Fritzc

07-10-2004, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Helen Twowheels
I'm sure, no matter where it is it will be an ULTIMATELY C O O L rally!!! Sue and Brian did GREAT things with Midland...What a party! There is no way the 2005 rally could not be SUPER with those 2 at the helm... no matter where it is!

Remember the excellent music at Midland!!!

In my opinion the Music was the only downside to the rally at Midland.
My vote for a rally site would be Tennessee or Kentucky where the real musicians can be found. With our aging membership perhaps a little two-stepping or Bluegrass would be more desirable.

MarkF

07-10-2004, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Rob Nye
In other words I support our President in giving folks information on future rally plans, but I hesitate in announcing the city / state.

Zones should be plenty.

Comments?

Best,

It's a start. I'd be happy with state or region, such as New England. Either way July is still bad for me.... But, if it's in eastern Canada I'm there!

MarkF

BradfordBenn

07-15-2004, 12:39 PM

The correct answer is Lima, Ohio. July 21-24, 2005 Sue Rihn-Manke is the rally chair.:clap

mdcruiser

07-15-2004, 03:25 PM

Great -- I've already reserved my hotel room!! :)

Unregistered

07-15-2004, 05:23 PM

Allen County Fairgrounds is in Lima,OH.
http://www.ohionationalchampioship.com

Unregistered

07-15-2004, 05:25 PM

Whoops--
http://www.ohionationalchampionship.com

Unregistered

07-15-2004, 05:48 PM

http://www.lima-allencvb.com

Unregistered

07-15-2004, 05:55 PM

http://www.allencountyfair.org

Unregistered

07-15-2004, 05:59 PM

http://www.limaciviccenter.com

lorazepam

07-16-2004, 02:31 PM

Nothing like having board flat and straight roads featured at a rally. I wonder why Lima is the site. Chillicothe would be a much better place, about the same size, and they have a large fairground, and plenty of motels. They host a biker event every year, Easyriders, and I am sure they could accomodate BMWMOA.

Unregistered

07-16-2004, 03:36 PM

They were taking suggestions after the Kentucky location didn't work out. Something about a county liquor permit.

Unregistered

07-16-2004, 03:41 PM

Sorry-it was Tennessee-not Kentucky.

Unregistered

07-19-2004, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by lorazepam
Nothing like having board flat and straight roads featured at a rally. I wonder why Lima is the site. Chillicothe would be a much better place, about the same size, and they have a large fairground, and plenty of motels. They host a biker event every year, Easyriders, and I am sure they could accomodate BMWMOA.

Lorazepam's right. I went to college about 10 miles east of Lima at Ohio Northern University, and you can't get straighter, flatter roads than there. The carpenters squares in your workshops look like the tail of the dragon compared to Hancock county roads (not that it won't be fun anyway).

Carl

Unregistered

08-11-2004, 05:38 PM

Mike_In_Lima

08-11-2004, 05:44 PM

quote:
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Originally posted by lorazepam
Nothing like having board flat and straight roads featured at a rally. I wonder why Lima is the site. Chillicothe would be a much better place, about the same size, and they have a large fairground, and plenty of motels. They host a biker event every year, Easyriders, and I am sure they could accomodate BMWMOA.
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I can suggest some nice curvy routes in the area, that provide very nice riding.

kbasa

08-11-2004, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Mike_In_Lima
quote:
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Originally posted by lorazepam
Nothing like having board flat and straight roads featured at a rally. I wonder why Lima is the site. Chillicothe would be a much better place, about the same size, and they have a large fairground, and plenty of motels. They host a biker event every year, Easyriders, and I am sure they could accomodate BMWMOA.
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I can suggest some nice curvy routes in the area, that provide very nice riding.

Hook us up, daddy-O! :thumb

Mike_In_Lima

08-11-2004, 06:33 PM

KBasa;
What machine are you riding out here on? The GS?

I don't know how these things are structured; it looks from the Spokane site like they may have some pre-planned rides?
I don't want to screw anything up, but as soon as the powers-that-be let me know what is up, I can make up some nice rides of varying length. It's a ways down the road, so perhaps a separate thread with my route suggestions/comments/maps can be posted.
Logan County is also pretty much adjacent, and offers some nice rides. There are some sleeper roads out west and southwest of Lima as well; heck, northwest even. Some that follow rivers, some along an old canal, etc. Some nice highly rural routes, too, for those who want to move at a goodly clip.
Generally good pavement, moderate traffic. I'll work to keep you out of congestion! Depends how long a ride you want, really. After blasting cross country, just hanging out at the fairgrounds might be nice!
As nice as the Million Dollar highway running into Ouray, Colorado? (one of my favorite rides in the mid 80's)
Okay, hardly.

mdcruiser

08-11-2004, 06:44 PM

Mike: I'm sure the routes will be most welcome.

I'll be riding my R1200C Montana in from south-central Maryland. My first BMWMOA rally! Any nice (non-slab) routes to Lima from my neck of the woods would be most welcome!

Mike_In_Lima

08-11-2004, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by mdcruiser
Mike: I'm sure the routes will be most welcome.

I'll be riding my R1200C Montana in from south-central Maryland. My first BMWMOA rally! Any nice (non-slab) routes to Lima from my neck of the woods would be most welcome!

Remind me down the road, and we'll figure out what the best jumping off point in Ohio is for you.

rocketman

08-12-2004, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by mdcruiser
Mike: I'm sure the routes will be most welcome.

I'll be riding my R1200C Montana in from south-central Maryland. My first BMWMOA rally! Any nice (non-slab) routes to Lima from my neck of the woods would be most welcome!

On my way back from Mid-Ohio last month I took Rt. 50 from a little south-east of Columbus all the way to DC/northern VA. Great road all the way. It goes over the Alaganey Plateau, from VA west, thru WV to Clarksburg it's all two lane twisties then it's a four lane from there west to Athens, Ohio and that section is also nice as it goes through the Hocking Hills area. Beyond Petersburg, no clue as that's where we picked it up from 33 South. If you're in south-central MD it shouldn't be too far down for you to pick up 50.

Here's a pic from 50 just as it starts across the top of the Plateau
http://roadrunes.com/may30web/images/P5300070.jpg

you can see more from the area from a ride I took up the Plateau
here (http://roadrunes.com/may30web/index.htm)
If you've never been thru there it's worth the trip. It was 530 miles from Mid-ohio to just south of DC going that way and about 14 hours riding given the twisties for the last 1/2 of the ride home.

RM

mdcruiser

08-12-2004, 07:01 AM

Thanks! That sounds most interesting. I feared that traffic on US 50 was really dense -- is that not the case?

Liked the pix!

I cross into VA using White's Ferry, so would take Rte 7 West to Winchester, where I would pick up Rte 50.

Mike, once I'm in Ohio on Rte 50 (enters Ohio at Belpre), do you recommend going north on Ohio 7 and then Ohio 60 to Zanesville?

rocketman

08-12-2004, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by mdcruiser
Thanks! That sounds most interesting. I feared that traffic on US 50 was really dense -- is that not the case?

Liked the pix!

I cross into VA using White's Ferry, so would take Rte 7 West to Winchester, where I would pick up Rte 50.

Mike, once I'm in Ohio on Rte 50 (enters Ohio at Belpre), do you recommend going north on Ohio 7 and then Ohio 60 to Zanesville?

I rode back on Sunday, traffic was light thru the Hocking Hills and even over the Alaganeys, gets heavier for a bit around Clarksburg and the last part of VA but not too bad. Don't know about 50 past Athens, but I do recomend going thru the Hocking Hills, from what i saw of middle ohio it's pretty flat, the southern area seems more interesting, thou I admit I'm not that familiar with most of Ohio as that was my first trip up there.

RM

lorazepam

08-12-2004, 07:31 PM

50 all the way to Chillicothe is good ride, a little busy at times, but plenty of places to pass.

Take 35 out of chillicothe, to 207 toward clarksburg and mt sterling.
Catch 56 at mt sterling to 29. then catch 68 to bellefontaine, home of the first concrete pavement in the US.

Take the spur to 117, and that will get you to Lima in fine fashion.

It is mostly rural, mom and pop places are still around, and offer good choices for eating.
If you take more that one day, the state park system is great, and you can reserve spaces in advance if you know your schedule.

That ride will give you a tase of almost everything you will see in Ohio as far as roads.

I would put rt 555 from rt 50 at little hocking just as challenging as the dragon. Ride it all the way to Zanesville if you dare.