Colors in the Catskills [Archive]

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 09:19 AM

$250 doesn't sound like a discounted room to me.

Paul, I call that theft!!! I'd hate to see the regular price.

So what if the leaves are changing. The Adirondacks aren't even remotely close to the Dolomites in scenery and riding experience, yet I can get one hell of a room with breakfast and dinner for $75 in the Dolomites.

I can't figure out the high price of accomodations in North America considering that operating costs here are practically nothing in comparison.

The_Veg

08-07-2008, 09:36 AM

I can't figure out the high price of accomodations in North America considering that operating costs here are practically nothing in comparison.

It's called GREED. Your utopian European friends apparently haven't discovered it.

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 09:42 AM

It's called GREED. Your utopian European friends apparently haven't discovered it.

Well then you ought to come up here to experience GREED. I buy all my motorcycle and car parts in the US to save serious coin.

Accomodations for some reason are a different matter; equal up here and down there, and in both cases...overpriced!!! I'll spend my vacation dollars overseas.

tessler

08-07-2008, 10:52 AM

So what if the leaves are changing. The Adirondacks aren't even remotely close to the Dolomites in scenery and riding experience, yet I can get one hell of a room with breakfast and dinner for $75 in the Dolomites.The Dolomites are most certainly beautiful. I'd love to visit them one day, however the event in question occurs in New York's Catskill Mountains which are located in the southern portion of the state. Myself and several members ride them regularly and quite enjoy the scenery and riding experience. :thumb

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 11:04 AM

The Dolomites are most certainly beautiful. I'd love to visit them one day, however the event in question occurs in New York's Catskill Mountains which are located in the southern portion of the state. Myself and several members ride them regularly and quite enjoy the scenery and riding experience. :thumb

The location has nothing to do with it. But for some reason, someone in the Adirondacks thinks the changing of the colors warrants some rediculous accomodations pricing. Its a good thing they don't think the Dolomites are so special where I overnight or I might be paying ten grand a night.

At $250 a night, that place should not hold their breath waiting for me. :laugh

tessler

08-07-2008, 11:13 AM

The location has nothing to do with it. But for some reason, someone in the Adirondacks thinks the changing of the colors warrants some rediculous accomodations pricing. Its a good thing they don't think the Dolomites are so special where I overnight or I might be paying ten grand a night.

At $250 a night, that place should not hold their breath waiting for me. :laughOk, now you're losing me, Alex. Where has anyone in this thread or otherwise suggested or even remotely intimated that there was a room in the Adirondacks that was available for $250.?

Do we have an MOA event in the Adirondacks stuck in somewhere between Hunter and Spartanburg? :whistle

kbasa

08-07-2008, 11:14 AM

kbasa

08-07-2008, 11:14 AM

Ok, now you're losing me, Alex. Where has anyone in this thread or otherwise suggested or even remotely intimated that there was a room in the Adirondacks that was available for $250.?

Do we have an MOA event in the Adirondacks stuck in somewhere between Hunter and Spartanburg? :whistle

He's having a hard time seeing down his nose.

knary

08-07-2008, 11:27 AM

Oldhway

08-07-2008, 11:35 AM

Paul, I call that theft!!! I'd hate to see the regular price.

So what if the leaves are changing. The Adirondacks aren't even remotely close to the Dolomites in scenery and riding experience, yet I can get one hell of a room with breakfast and dinner for $75 in the Dolomites.

I can't figure out the high price of accomodations in North America considering that operating costs here are practically nothing in comparison.

Hi GlobalRider :wave. Went out and saw the Grand Canyon and a bunch of the Southwest in 'February 07. Went down to the Everglades last January. Alaska in "06. Did the northern Rockies, Yellowstone, and the Tetons in "05. Death Valley and Central California the year before. Live in New England and every fall reminds me of how beautiful a world we live in. I kinda like it here.

I'm sure the Dolomites are nice and after I have seen all that my home has to offer I might come see yours. But please don't run my people down in the mean time.:nono

Hi Rod, Several of us got a condo near Hunter for $145.00 a night. Check with the girl in charge of the rally accomodations, I'm sure you'll find something at a better deal.

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 11:42 AM

Ok, now you're losing me, Alex. Where has anyone in this thread or otherwise suggested or even remotely intimated that there was a room in the Adirondacks that was available for $250.?

Post #2 in this thread.$250 doesn't sound like a discounted room to me.

I take it we're still talking about room rates based on the originator's post. ;)

"Where" doesn't really matter. I thought it might have been where Paul lives since he mentioned the price in his post. Once again, I don't care where that accomodation is...$250...what are they smok'in?

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 11:44 AM

I'm sure the Dolomites are nice and after I have seen all that my home has to offer I might come see yours. But please don't run my people down in the mean time.:nono

I wish they were "mine". I live here.

Run down? I think they're doing it all by themselves with those room rates.

rocketman

08-07-2008, 11:59 AM

Rant

Wow! What a reaction I'm seeing here from some, oddly enough when I saw this event and the one in Spartanburg in this months ON, my first thought was "kool I should post about these on the forum since I think its a great idea and its just what folks have been asking for and wondering why MOA doesn't do more regional events". Well here are two in keeping with the call for such from the membership and yet what happens??? the very first post in the colors of the "Gillette is going be terrible cause its going to be hot, its too far..etc etc" threads. I don't get it, people ask for stuff such as regional events and then (some) reject it when it comes along! ?????

As for the prices, well since when have sky resort areas been inexpensive???

For me I was excited by this, its a great area for riding been thru it myself, fall colors should be pretty good this year, the event itself is free (and you know what they say about BMW owners) what’s not to like?
I would have gone had it not fallen on the same weekend as our clubs local event and the fact I got another cruise coming up soon so don’t have the extra time to take a few more days off to go.

If this sort of reaction becomes the standard, how long do you think the folks that put these together will bother??

/rant

RM

GrafikFeat

08-07-2008, 12:03 PM

I wish they were "mine". I live here.

Run down? I think they're doing it all by themselves with those room rates.

Ah, he's just biased. To each is own. Leben Sie und lassen Sie Phasen.

Leaf Peepers are a GIANT business up there. They ask and people pay it.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jim_popper/346757928/" title="Adirondack_Morning by GrafikFeat, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/346757928_e230187905_o.jpg" width="432" height="576" alt="Adirondack_Morning" /></a>

knary

08-07-2008, 12:05 PM

"Where" doesn't really matter. I thought it might have been where Paul lives since he mentioned the price in his post. Once again, I don't care where that accomodation is...$250...what are they smok'in?

You do realize that the prices are set by the market, right? The owners know that they can charge that much and that their customers will pay it. While you may not see the appeal of traveling through there (let's ignore the costs of even getting to the dolomites), others clearly want to. As to the costs of running a business there, I won't pretend to know.

PAULBACH

08-07-2008, 12:22 PM

$135 a night if you stay for two nights and that is a queen bed and pull out sofa. So the room sleeps two and divide in half with a friend and now the price is more reasonable.

rdalland

08-07-2008, 12:34 PM

$135 a night if you stay for two nights and that is a queen bed and pull out sofa. So the room sleeps two and divide in half with a friend and now the price is more reasonable.

Are you talking about the Kaatskill Mountain Club?

http://www.iloveny.com/summer/Inns.aspx?Region=4&Inn=223

http://www.kaatskillmtnclub.com/

tessler

08-07-2008, 12:39 PM

Post #2 in this thread.

I take it we're still talking about room rates based on the originator's post. ;)

"Where" doesn't really matter. I thought it might have been where Paul lives since he mentioned the price in his post.The originator's post references the Colors in the Catskills rally event promoted within the pages of the ON and on this web site. CTrod, who entitled this thread Colors in the Catskills, stated that he "called for a price on a room for the rally and was told the cheapest room was $250 a night." Any reasonable person could clearly deduce that his inference applied to lodging in proximity to this specific Catskills Mountains event.

Paul, (who does live near the Adirondack Mountains) stated that he too called, in reference to rally accommodation, a person mentioned in the Owners News article and "found she was on vacation until Friday". Paul received no quote, but did comment that "$250 didn't sound like a discounted room to him". As with post no. 1, we can clearly deduce that his inference applies to lodging in proximity to this specific Catskills Mountains event. Why would Paul, seeking to attend a rally in Hunter, NY seek lodging nearly 80 miles away from where the rally will be held? That makes no sense to me.

That's my only beef with your comments. Otherwise, yes, I agree that $250 might be a tad steep, but for the Northeast, during Autumn colors? New England has us beat by a mile.

rocketman

08-07-2008, 12:47 PM

Paul might be trying to set up a media Room for his Band of Photographers ? :whistle

I think its part of an evil plan to divert the publics attention away from the real issues of over priced lodging.....:laugh

RM

tessler

08-07-2008, 02:31 PM

Paul might be trying to set up a media Room for his Band of Photographers ? :whistle
:laugh :laugh :laugh

You know the campout we had at Ballston Spa last June? We should do that next year too as an official club event. :nod

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 07:14 PM

Ah, he's just biased.

I guess you and a few others are having trouble keeping up.

I'm comparing operating costs here (lower) and there (much higher), yet accomodations here are far more expensive, whereas there, they're far cheaper.

That never made sense to me. It seems the rates are inversely proportional to operating costs.

If this was anywhere else, all of you would be whining about a $250 room rate. Now who is biased?

GlobalRider

08-07-2008, 07:24 PM

Alex, please keep mind most of your arguement I agree with you.

Stat, I'm not arguing anything. I'm just amazed at the prices some pay for accomodations on this side of the pond.

The people that started arguing were the ones taking it personal...the my back yard is better than your back yard. This wasn't about back yards, but thats all they saw due to tunnel vision. Anyway, it'll be an absolute-zero day in hell before I donate $250 for any room...and that is the discounted rate??? :laugh

Strange that those same people willing to pay $250 for a room will whine about the price of a BMW oil filter. :whistle

Holly

08-07-2008, 07:33 PM

Mmmmm, yes, I'm flying over for some in September. I'm going to buy gas there, too. If there's any money left after that, the Catskills sound wonderful in October. Thanks to the organizers for the opportunity. I'm sure it will be a fabulous event.

Holly

GrafikFeat

08-07-2008, 07:51 PM

If this was anywhere else, all of you would be whining about a $250 room rate. Now who is biased?

Who's whining? I meant biased as I could say...
"Man it sure is hot today". And you'd still reply "Not in the Dolomites".

...and while my prof says Gold Bar, WA - I'm from NY and still own property in Warren County. I know all about the "Economics" of the Catskill/Adirondack Region(s).

In the interior if you aren't working for the County... Well... I'll just leave it at that.
I'd never pay $250 a room but I won't slight the locals for asking for it.

Well... Unless they're from the Dolomites. :whistle

rdalland

08-07-2008, 08:17 PM

I'd never pay $250 a room but I won't slight the locals for asking for it.

It's not the locals that are asking it. This is a high end Hotel/Spa with international time shares. There are other Hotel Spa's in the area that cater to a very exclusive clientele, rooms as high as $2,500 per night. This is the future for this area.

There are lots of rooms available in town if you want to support the locals.

I've slept in the parking lot too...

GlobalRider

08-08-2008, 07:13 AM

:laugh Donate :laugh

Come on down you can crash at my pad, you can ruff it there with us.

I'd bring some real beer if I did, but since Paul's place is closer and on the way...he hasn't offered yet.

I know the area well. My dad lived in Windham (thats right by Hunter) for some 25 years.

Now if this is "Hunter's" low season...I'd hate to see their high season rates. It is a ski resort, you know. Cripes, Cortina d'Ampezzo's winter rates aren't even that high and thats a world class ski center. :whistle

GlobalRider

08-08-2008, 07:23 AM

Who's whining? I meant biased as I could say...
"Man it sure is hot today". And you'd still reply "Not in the Dolomites".

Actually, its hotter. Touche! :laugh

You're still stuck on the Dolomites and missing the connection....and that connection is (drum roll)...they have great roads (and I won't say better, in fear of hurting fragile feelings) that they could just as easily capitalize on them by asking rediculous room rates, but they don't, and that is on top of higher operating costs.

So some place in nowhere Catskills is asking how much for a room? Get the point?

jdmetzger

08-08-2008, 07:42 AM

Anyway, it'll be an absolute-zero day in hell before I donate $250 for any room...and that is the discounted rate??? :laugh

Strange that those same people willing to pay $250 for a room will whine about the price of a BMW oil filter. :whistle

As far as I know, $250 isn't the discounted rate. The room I'm staying in wasn't $250 a night. Call back and ask for the discounted rate, or there is a campground nearby.

I don't whine about the oil filters, but I sure wish having the circlip installed in the transmission of my GSPD was going to be cheaper. :p

GlobalRider

08-08-2008, 07:46 AM

I don't whine about the oil filters, but I sure wish having the circlip installed in the transmission of my GSPD was going to be cheaper. :p

Those are "keepers", so its worth it.

Ctrod

08-08-2008, 08:21 AM

All I wanted to know was there a cheaper place to stay. I've never been to this hotel so I can't say if the room is or isn't worth $250 a night, (the price may even have been miss quoted,it sounded like the person I talked to was filling in) it's just more then I wanted to pay. I'll just wait till Monday until the contact person is back from vacation. :bolt

Friedle

08-08-2008, 12:01 PM

All right, the sky is NOT falling, despite reports to the contrary!

Here are the DISCOUNTED rates for the Kaatskill Hotel, a world class lodging and spa, as well as the on slope condos.....all within walking distance of the
Main Base Lodge and the Motorcycle activities for the first annual Colors in the Catskills event.

DISCOUNTED ON SITE LODGING RATES

Kaatskill Mountain Club

Room Type Rack Rate BMW Group Rate

Studio $250/night $150/1st nt; $135/2nd nt
Studio Deluxe $300/night $175/1st nt; $160/2nd nt
1 BDR Jacuzzi $375/night $300/1st nt; $250/2nd nt
1 BDR Superior $375/night $300/1st nt; $250/2nd nt
2 BDR Suite $500/night $350/1st nt; $325/ 2nd nt
3 BDR Suite $600/night $550/1st nt; $500/ 2nd nt

Liftside Condos

1 BDR Condo $300/night $150/1st nt; $135/2nd nt
2 BDR Condo $475/night $325/1st nt; $300/2nd nt
4 BDR Condo $600/night $550/1st nt; $500/2nd nt

All reserved rooms automatically guaranteed for late arrival
All rooms are non-smoking.
Smoking permitted outdoors, including guestroom balconies
Free hotel and condo parking
Fitness Center is complimentary for all Kaatskill Mountain Club and Liftside Condo guests

Contact Renee Chirico at Hunter to check on availability or make a reservation.
rchirico@huntermtn.com or 518-263-5580 x3021

I would call these some pretty nice discounts, especially considering what some people paid for a far lesser room just recently in a state far to the west of the Catskills. =8^( Not only are the rates discounted for the first night, but you get an additional discount if you stay a second night! Get a couple of friends together and you can have a great place to stay for just about what a night at the KOA would cost you.

Friedle
confusing the arguement with facts

jdmetzger

08-08-2008, 12:05 PM

Friedle
confusing the arguement with facts

:laugh

Friedle

08-08-2008, 12:06 PM

My negotiating skills are far better than my computer skills. Stop laughing Feeler!

Let me clear up the above posting since I didn't seem to get the spacing to work.

Room Type Rack Rate BMW Group Rate
Studio $250/night $150/1st nt; $135/2nd nt

The room type is a "studio". The rack rate is $250/night. The BMW Group rate is $150 for the first night and $135 for the second night's reservation. Same for the rest of the above post.

Stop laughing Nye!

Friedle

Oldhway

08-08-2008, 12:47 PM

Thanks for helping put this together and for clearing up the rates question.

I am looking forward to it as it's the only rally I will get to this year and it's almost in my own backyard.

GrafikFeat

08-09-2008, 12:45 AM

...You forgot to mention that the gypsy moths ate all the leaves.

HAHAHHAHA!

Well you can always ride to the Dolomites... :hide

snoone

08-09-2008, 06:56 AM

:laugh :laugh :laugh

You know the campout we had at Ballston Spa last June? We should do that next year too as an official club event. :nod

I'M IN!! That was how much per night??

PAULBACH

08-09-2008, 07:01 AM

June was just a test run. But wait until October - at the cottage on the lake.

Snoone can lead you in since he locked in the location on his ZUMO. Indoor sleeping, DirectTV, fishing, swimming and chilling out! :drink :eat

snoone

08-09-2008, 07:07 AM

Swimming in that lake in October certainly fits the bill of Chillin out

GlobalRider

08-09-2008, 09:20 AM

HAHAHHAHA!

Well you can always ride to the Dolomites... :hide

And only pay $50 a night with a full breakfast. :laugh

After all, I only want a room for the night; I don't want to buy the place. :laugh

MonkeyBoy

08-11-2008, 07:54 AM

Just booked 2 nights for $145 /nt, that's a lot for not being ski season.....I hope this event is worth it.

MonkeyBoy

08-11-2008, 08:03 AM

Just booked 2 nights for $145 /nt, that's a lot for not being ski season.....I hope this event is worth it.

Scratch that, just found out an Oktoberfest is being held at the resort at the same time! This will definitely be a blast!:drink :drink

Friedle

08-11-2008, 07:50 PM

Scratch that, just found out an Oktoberfest is being held at the resort at the same time! This will definitely be a blast!:drink :drink

There will be plenty to do there. The "worth" of the event to you will be what ever you want to make it. It will at least be worth the price of admission.... FREE.

Friedle

PAULBACH

08-11-2008, 11:08 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/bigwink.gif
NB: If Michael is planning this event you definitely don't want to miss it!

PAULBACH

08-11-2008, 11:13 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/bigwink.gif
NB: If Michael is planning this event you definitely don't want to miss it!

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/smileyincedulous-1.gif And FREE FREE

Visian

08-12-2008, 07:23 AM

There will be plenty to do there. The "worth" of the event to you will be what ever you want to make it. It will at least be worth the price of admission.... FREE.

Friedle

hey michael - will there be any open dirt-bike riding on those ski slopes, or is it all demo rides/skills courses, etc.?

i'd really like to do some dirt bike riding with my new set of wheels for the HP2. the combination of skills-training-only riding opportunities combined with a $170 fee in spartanburg has me wondering whether it would be more fun to go up to NY for your event.

and i agree with paul... if michael is planning it, *you* can plan on a good time. :nod

ian

rdalland

08-12-2008, 09:06 AM

More info here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368569

Friedle

08-12-2008, 10:03 PM

hey michael - will there be any open dirt-bike riding on those ski slopes, or is it all demo rides/skills courses, etc.?

i'd really like to do some dirt bike riding with my new set of wheels for the HP2. the combination of skills-training-only riding opportunities combined with a $170 fee in spartanburg has me wondering whether it would be more fun to go up to NY for your event.

and i agree with paul... if michael is planning it, *you* can plan on a good time. :nod

ian

Hello Ian,

Right now the on slope riding will be limited to skills classes only. These classes will be run by Team MAX with help from some well known instructors. There will be a small fee involved...a very small fee compared to the fees at spartenburg. We are still laying out the details, but it looks to be about a 7-8 mile loop up the ski mountain, across a fire service trail, down into the valley on the west side of the mountain and transiting back to the start point. The initial climb up the ski trail will be about an 1100 foot elevation gain before the fun really begins.

If you want to free ride the mountain, there are mountain bike rentals available with a chair lift ride to the top and only your self preservation instincts to limit your trip to the bottom. =8^0

Does that get your attention?

There will also be demonstration rides on the ski slope directly behind the main base lodge of the full range and capabilities of the BMW off road machines. We are also working to see if we can incorporate some trials riding (not trail, but trials riding) as part of the event.

Then there is the full range of sport, sport touring and touring opportunities available in addition to the vendors, seminars and socializing.

Did I mention that it's a FREE event?

Friedle
look for more details to be coming soon to a BMW MOA website near you

MonkeyBoy

08-14-2008, 09:45 AM

That course sounds sweet! now I'm really siked. Do you need to sign up for the skills classes in advance or is it first come...?

Friedle

08-15-2008, 07:08 AM

Mike please include if we need Knobbies for the GS events. I know Torrance's are fine on the dirt roads but what about the mountain ? What class is the trail ?

Max puts on great GS events so I can't wait. :bow

I can't wait to see the Oktoberfest attendees checking out the BMW bikes and a few KTM's.

That call will ultimately be up to Team MAX after they decide how knarly they want to ramp up the amperage of the event. They might offer different training levels with different tire requirements. Not quite sure yet.

Michael

Friedle

08-15-2008, 07:10 AM

That course sounds sweet! now I'm really siked. Do you need to sign up for the skills classes in advance or is it first come...?

Class size will be limited, so pre registration will probably be required by Team MAX. Details on when and where to sign up (their site or MOA's) are being worked out now.

Michael

stealthrider

08-18-2008, 08:50 PM

Booked my room today... Looking forward to having a great time...

jdmetzger

08-18-2008, 09:44 PM

Oldhwy, Josh, and I have one of those Condos down there. Nice pool !

Nice!! :clap

BubbaZanetti

08-18-2008, 10:07 PM

this looks to be my FIRST rally of 2008

(yeah, it's been a rough summer)

i think i'm gonna camp locally, i also have not camped once this summer. this sounds like it's gonna be a good time!

jdmetzger

08-18-2008, 10:29 PM

this looks to be my FIRST rally of 2008

(yeah, it's been a rough summer)

i think i'm gonna camp locally, i also have not camped once this summer. this sounds like it's gonna be a good time!

It looks like we're in the same boat; it will be my first rally of the year, as well. I have been on a few rides, done a small amount of camping, and I just got back from a rather short ride to Chicago and back (with a few days enjoying the city)... but this year has been a hard one for me - not nearly enough riding or rallying. I'm going to make this one count. :)

Visian

08-19-2008, 07:51 AM

Right now the on slope riding will be limited to skills classes only.

rats.

i appreciate this effort, here's a little input for future events.

it would be great to have to tracks/trails laid out for people who don't need training and just want to go riding. (realizing that one can always go find their own trails.... :ha )

i wound up coughing up the $170 for the enduro course in spartanburg (cough, cough) even though i know the the course is a little basic for me, just so i could ride my bike. oh well, everyone can always use a little skills brush up.

i had wanted to bring my street wheels for the hp2, too... but another $170 to ride on the track? :brow

thanks for doing the good things to put this on, michael.

ian

PAULBACH

08-19-2008, 08:28 AM

There will be a trials event. The combination of facilities, riding and atmosphere will be :clap :clap

Hunter mountain is looking forward to receiving us and is rolling out the red carpet.

Oldhway

08-19-2008, 12:31 PM

You would be better off just letting your KTM Kids teach you. :stick

Or just get a Matador out of a barn and resort back to basics. :heart Enough bull.

So that's a matador?

Old AMC commercial quote, if you recognize it, have a shot of geritol on me.

Ctrod

08-19-2008, 12:42 PM

So that's a matador?

Old AMC commercial quote, if you recognize it, have a shot of geritol on me.

It's not THAT old. At least I don't think I am.

Friedle

08-19-2008, 08:39 PM

rats.

i appreciate this effort, here's a little input for future events.

it would be great to have to tracks/trails laid out for people who don't need training and just want to go riding. (realizing that one can always go find their own trails.... :ha )

i wound up coughing up the $170 for the enduro course in spartanburg (cough, cough) even though i know the the course is a little basic for me, just so i could ride my bike. oh well, everyone can always use a little skills brush up.

i had wanted to bring my street wheels for the hp2, too... but another $170 to ride on the track? :brow

thanks for doing the good things to put this on, michael.

ian

Hello Ian,

The on slope riding will be limited to instructional rides ....for at least this year to start. We will have a number of dual purpose off road rides in the area on some county maintained dirt roads to keep people busy. MAX hasn't finalized the course cost yet, but for the cost of the Spartanburg course you could probably sign up for every course MAX will be offering over the three days.... and still have some change left over for a good beer time in the evening.

While we don't have a road track available, we are putting together arrangement for people to participate in the Lee Parks Total Control Class at a venue not too far from Hunter. Spend a day doing the Lee Parks class, come to Hunter and spend the night and then go riding on the local "black diamond" roads the following day. Sounds like a plan to me. Lee Parks will cost some money, but the "black diamond" roads are FREE!

Friedle

Oldhway

08-20-2008, 07:31 AM

Man this is going to be a blast! 3 days aren't enough.

bobs98

08-20-2008, 08:10 AM

Thanks for all your efforts Michael, and to the rest of your team as well. I'm sure there is a lot going on to make this event successful.

This is looking more and more attractive every day! I will have to see about altering my schedule to allow attendance!

hcmiller52

08-20-2008, 08:37 PM

It's called GREED. Your utopian European friends apparently haven't discovered it.No, it's called capitalism, and the price reflects the demand.

Visian

08-21-2008, 07:56 AM

So that's a matador?

http://www.visian.nu/images/bultaco_matador_sixday.jpg

http://www.visian.nu/images/73_Matador_SixDay.jpg

:nod

Oldhway

08-21-2008, 08:24 AM

Back in the early 70's I wanted an Alpina 350 so bad it hurt. I thought it was the most beautiful Enduro (remember Enduro bikes?) ever built,

Oldhway

08-21-2008, 08:36 AM

However the Matador left me flat.

Visian

08-21-2008, 08:51 AM

Back in the early 70's I wanted an Alpina 350 so bad it hurt. I thought it was the most beautiful Enduro (remember Enduro bikes?) ever built,

the alpina was a combination of bultaco's enduro (matador) and trials (sherpa T) models.

it was considered a light-enduro, best suited for trail riding. it was a very well-done bike... i restored one about 10 years ago, but sold it to another collector (ran out of room in the garage and learned that i wasn't very good at restoration).

and to keep the thread at least remotely on topic... hugh's bultaco (http://www.bultaco.com/) in craryville, ny is not far from hunter mountain.

hugh bought out the inventory of failing bultaco dealers and is super-committed to the marque's preservation.

a visit to his shop is well worth the time.

ian

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bobs98

08-21-2008, 10:02 AM

So Ian,

Are you coming up? I'll take the ride over to Hugh's with you, as long as its not a GS route to get there.

Oldhway

08-21-2008, 10:58 AM

Back in the early 80's when I started working for Connecticut Suzuki (now CT Power and Sport) they had just sold all their Bultaco stuff to a guy in Agawam Mass. who was collecting Bultaco parts. I wonder if that inventory later went to Hugh's?

While we are hijacking, but to get back on track, sort of. (only my best english on the forum). Do you remember Ossa motorcycles? Bultaco's Spanish competitor. The connection is the short lived Yankee 500 Twingle motorcycle made with 2 Ossa 250 cylinders mated to a hybrid twin/single crankcase and built in......

Upstate New York! That was another case of moto lust for a young lad in the 70's. I'd love to find one of those around. Think 1972 version of a GS.

Visian

08-21-2008, 01:03 PM

Upstate New York! That was another case of moto lust for a young lad in the 70's. I'd love to find one of those around. Think 1972 version of a GS.

new berlin... unadilla
binghampton... broome-tioga

:nod

saw one of those yankees at AMA Vintage Days a few years ago. Those things had to have been beasts!

now that i realize how close this event is to hugh's i have myself halfway talked into riding up there. :burnout

Oldhway

08-21-2008, 02:45 PM

new berlin... unadilla
binghampton... broome-tioga

:nod

saw one of those yankees at AMA Vintage Days a few years ago. Those things had to have been beasts!

now that i realize how close this event is to hugh's i have myself halfway talked into riding up there. :burnout

Come on up, us Yankees will always welcome the chance to fleece a Southern gentleman with our over-inflated prices:D .

I'll join you on a trip to Hugh's if you want company.

Visian

08-21-2008, 03:13 PM

Come on up...

my schedule could *possibly* support working while on the road for the two weekend that the moa events are planned.

i'd have to stick to the nancy-boy trails, though, because we are in the middle of a big project... and if i hurt myself, we'll be in hot water.

ian

Oldhway

08-21-2008, 03:28 PM

my schedule could *possibly* support working while on the road for the two weekend that the moa events are planned.

i'd have to stick to the nancy-boy trails, though, because we are in the middle of a big project... and if i hurt myself, we'll be in hot water.

ian

Hey, we got 4 in a 1 bedroom condo already. I bet we could find another spot on the floor.

Visian

08-21-2008, 03:45 PM

What are Lake Taghkanic and Taconic/Copake Falls State parks?

would they be mobbed at this time?

ian

PAULBACH

08-22-2008, 09:28 AM

After Labor Day a canon with grapeshot could not find a target in NY campsites.

All the tourists head back to the boroughs in NYC.

Come on up!

Friedle

08-22-2008, 10:56 AM

What are Lake Taghkanic and Taconic/Copake Falls State parks?

would they be mobbed at this time?

ian

Copake Falls is an excellent campground and is still open after Labor Day, right up until 1 Dec, IIRC, but it is over an hour from there to Hunter. There are other local camping options closer, but why not just hook up with somebody to share a room...or at least some floor space.

Friedle

Oldhway

08-22-2008, 12:18 PM

Copake Falls is an excellent campground and is still open after Labor Day, right up until 1 Dec, IIRC, but it is over an hour from there to Hunter. There are other local camping options closer, but why not just hook up with somebody to share a room...or at least some floor space.

Friedle

Careful with your terminology there my friend, "Hook Up" means something different these days. We all like Ian fine but a "Hook Up" is out of the question:D

Friedle

08-22-2008, 12:25 PM

Careful with your terminology there my friend, "Hook Up" means something different these days. We all like Ian fine but a "Hook Up" is out of the question:D

Hey, it's not like Ian is riding sidesaddle on that mighty GS. :D

Friedle

No offense intended to those who do ride sidesaddle. :)

Visian

08-22-2008, 12:43 PM

Hey, it's not like Ian is riding sidesaddle on that mighty GS. :D

Friedle

No offense intended to those who do ride sidesaddle. :)

ok, i am outed.

i am already signed up for SC... and i need to work in the interim between the NY and SC events.

*and* i want to try out my new dirt wheels for the HP2. butt... the 900 miles on the HP2 hauling two race stands and a second set of wheels is a bit ambitious.

so... if i can make it, i am taking my rv and trailering. is that the same as riding sidesaddle? :blush

Oldhway

08-22-2008, 12:51 PM

ok, i am outed.

i am already signed up for SC... and i need to work in the interim between the NY and SC events.

*and* i want to try out my new dirt wheels for the HP2. butt... the 900 miles on the HP2 hauling two race stands and a second set of wheels is a bit ambitious.

so... if i can make it, i am taking my rv and trailering. is that the same as riding sidesaddle? :blush

I had multiple responses for this and then realized they would all get this thread moderated (or maybe Doghoused) so....

"on advice of my attorney I sight my 5th amendment rights".

jdmetzger

08-22-2008, 12:56 PM

ok, i am outed.

i am already signed up for SC... and i need to work in the interim between the NY and SC events.

*and* i want to try out my new dirt wheels for the HP2. butt... the 900 miles on the HP2 hauling two race stands and a second set of wheels is a bit ambitious.

so... if i can make it, i am taking my rv and trailering. is that the same as riding sidesaddle? :blush

Well, I have nothing against someone trailering; you have good reasons listed! How about you bring some tire changing implements with you so I can ride over on my Anakee's and then switch to TKC-80's for the event? :D

Visian

08-22-2008, 01:28 PM

you mean tar arns?

tessler

08-22-2008, 01:40 PM

Well, I have nothing against someone trailering; you have good reasons listed! How about you bring some tire changing implements with you so I can ride over on my Anakee's and then switch to TKC-80's for the event? :DI call for a Toga Party in Ian's camper Saturday night!

It'll be chilly in the mountains that night so we'll have to double up on the togas!

And the beer.

And the bourbon.

And cigars :D

jdmetzger

08-22-2008, 01:45 PM

you mean tar arns?

Well, I have the "Bead BraKr" (sp?) and I've used to to change tires on my R80 before, but I really didn't enjoy the experience. Honestly, I just don't trust my own work. I have issues getting the bead to seat.. or at least trusting that it's properly seated. One was fine, the other was not quite right, the tube slipped a bit, and I had to replace it (paid someone else do to the work on the repair due to scheduling).

I call for a Toga Party in Ian's camper Saturday night!

It'll be chilly in the mountains that night so we'll have to double up on the togas!

And the beer.

And the bourbon.

And cigars :D

Toga party? Are you bringing some ladies, as well? When you say "double up" do you mean share with said ladies? :D

:hide

Visian

08-22-2008, 02:14 PM

Well, I have the "Bead BraKr" (sp?) and I've used to to change tires on my R80 before, but I really didn't enjoy the experience.

i can change the tires on my R80G/SPD+ with just plain tar arns. no tire machine... right there on the ground.

no way on the HP or 1150, you have to have some way to break the bead and grip the rims. i think i have that bead breakr, too... and have not had much success with it.

Toga party? Are you bringing some ladies, as well? When you say "double up" do you mean share with said ladies? :D

:hide

wait until you see the size of the bed in this thing... it's the biggest i've ever seen in a camper. bigger than king size.

if this buggy's rockin' don't bother knockin! :jawdrop

jdmetzger

08-22-2008, 02:27 PM

i can change the tires on my R80G/SPD+ with just plain tar arns. no tire machine... right there on the ground.

That's it. Do you have time to do an Airhead GS tire changing school? :lurk

Of course, that might not be necessary if the terrain doesn't require knobbies.

no way on the HP or 1150, you have to have some way to break the bead and grip the rims. i think i have that bead breakr, too... and have not had much success with it.

It's worked really well for me, but again, just on Airhead rims. Made things terribly simple. I know a guy that uses it to change TKC80's on an '89GS without problems.

wait until you see the size of the bed in this thing... it's the biggest i've ever seen in a camper. bigger than king size.

if this buggy's rockin' don't bother knockin! :jawdrop

:ha

bobs98

08-22-2008, 02:39 PM

Toga party? Are you bringing some ladies, as well? When you say "double up" do you mean share with said ladies? :D

:hide

"Hello ladies! I'll just put your coats over here while you head over to the bar and make yourselves comfortable."

Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damned glad to meet you.

Oldhway

08-22-2008, 03:12 PM

I call for a Toga Party in Ian's camper Saturday night!

It'll be chilly in the mountains that night so we'll have to double up on the togas!

And the beer.

And the bourbon.

And cigars :D

:groovy

And the Catskills (as opposed to the Adirondacks) will never be the same again.

tessler

08-23-2008, 06:29 AM

"Hello ladies! I'll just put your coats over here while you head over to the bar and make yourselves comfortable."

Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damned glad to meet you.:ha One of my favorite movies. I'd turned 18 five months before it opened. :thumb

:groovy

And the Catskills (as opposed to the Adirondacks) will never be the same again.:nod I'm tellin' ya: if Visian comes up yonder, with that king sized bed and all those tires, it will really be a special event. :laugh

MonkeyBoy

08-24-2008, 08:43 PM

Any word on how to sign up for the GS skills events @ hunter mtn. in Oct.?

Friedle

08-25-2008, 08:34 PM

Any word on how to sign up for the GS skills events @ hunter mtn. in Oct.?

Details are coming as soon as I hear from MAX BMW how they want to handle sign up.

Friedle

xp8103

08-26-2008, 07:32 AM

but for the Northeast, during Autumn colors? New England has us beat by a mile.

You got that right! :whistle :whistle :p

And if someone wants to ride the colors in October up this way, I'll offer some lawn space for a tent and a hot cup of coffee in the morning for NOTHING!! :)

bobs98

08-26-2008, 07:41 AM

:ha One of my favorite movies. I'd turned 18 five months before it opened. :thumb

:nod I'm tellin' ya: if Visian comes up yonder, with that king sized bed and all those tires, it will really be a special event. :laugh

Jon- You comin up for this one?

Snoone- No word from you?

I am really looking forward to seeing you on two wheels!

snoone

08-26-2008, 07:48 AM

Jon- You comin up for this one?

Snoone- No word from you?

I am really looking forward to seeing you on two wheels!

Hey Bob, Sorry I've been living the good life in Mexico for the last couple of weeks. Just got back yesterday... I haven't firmed up any tight plan yet, but i'll be up there somewhere, somehow...

bobs98

08-26-2008, 08:19 AM

Hey Bob, Sorry I've been living the good life in Mexico for the last couple of weeks. Just got back yesterday... I haven't firmed up any tight plan yet, but i'll be up there somewhere, somehow...

Looking forward to seeing you Mitch!

Hope you had a nice vacation. Or business?

Czarnazoo

08-28-2008, 08:24 AM

Ok - here's the most recent rundown.

The Kaatskill Mountain Club has almost booked out. We blocked rooms for BMWMOA/MAXBMW event and ran out of those at the lower prices.

I just contacted my wife..the GM and had her load up more at the discounted rate.

Studios without kitchens - queen bed and sofa bed - $150 per night....only eight left.

Studios with kitchen - queen bed or queen murphy bed plus sofa bed - $175 per night - blocked 12 more but they'll go fast.

Here's some additional lodging options that will definitely be cheaper than staying right on the slopes. All are within a few miles ride of Hunter on 23A.

Villa Vosilla - 518-589-5060
Mt. View Lodge - 518-263-4422
Fairlawn Inn - 518-263-5025
Hunter Inn - 518-263-3777 (not sure if they're opening yet for the weekend but call anyway)

BIG NEWS!!! Just slated an AMA Trials Event to take place over the same weekend. This event usually takes place at a smaller ski area in the Catskills but decided to move up to Hunter for better exposure this year. They're expecting about 40 participants including three or four pro riders.

It's gonna be a great weekend.

I'm headed out to the Watkins Glen Event tomorrow with some posters and flyers about the Colors in the Catskills festival. We'll see you all there.

kbasa

08-28-2008, 12:36 PM

:clap :clap

The trials are going to be fantastic!

PAULBACH

08-28-2008, 01:06 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/080817HunterMt238s.jpg
It 's quite a climb to the top. This is the easy way.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/0929HunterMt059s.jpg
Or wait here with a cold one and cheer them on!

stealthrider

08-28-2008, 09:49 PM

Once you've been to the top you'll feel like celebrating....

Czarnazoo

08-30-2008, 09:10 AM

OK - here's the rundown for you all.

Kaatskill Mountain Club (518-263-5580) is 10 rooms away from being sold out. Rooms still exist at $150 - $175 per night. The old addage is - you get what you pay for. http://www.kaatskillmtnclub.com/Index.aspx
At the KMC it's convenience and great rooms right on the slope. Take my word - the rooms are really nice. The Kaatskill Mountain Club also books privately owned condominiums at Liftside Village and Trailside at Hunter - and if you want to go big - book one of two condominiums offered right over the base lodge at The Pinnacle....one two bedroom sleeps 6 and one three bedroom - sleeps 8. Here's a link to some pics http://www.kaatskillmtnclub.com/ViewPhotoGallery.aspx?PageID=101&NavID=1

Camping - North South Lake campgrounds are open till October 25th. I camp here often even though it's only several miles from my house....because the grounds are amazing and the hiking is great. Several overlooks with 150 + mile landscape views are just a short walk into the woods away. Lies just about 8 miles from the festival grounds. Easy ride off Rt 23A. $20 per night per site gets you in. Here's the link for Camp Info and Reservations:
http://reserveamerica.com/camping/North_South_Lake_Campground/r/campgroundDetails.do?contractCode=NY&parkId=5&topTabIndex=CampingSpot

Lodging - many other lodging options for all budgets exist - here's the one's closet to the event. All are 518 area codes.

Forester - 263- 3777
Mountain View - 263-4433
Villa Vosilla - 589-5060
Scribner Hollow - 263-4211
Fairlawn Inn - 263-5025
Mountain Brook - 589-6740
Washington Irving - 589-5560
Hunter Inn - 263-3777 (call to see if they're opened for that weekend)

Here's a link to all lodging on the Hunter side of the mountain.
http://www.huntermtn.com/huntermtn/resort-summer/lodging.aspx//

Here's a link to Windham Mountain's website which also leads you to lots of area lodging properties. I like Hotel Vienna.
http://www.windhammountain.com/lodging/other/

Friedle

09-01-2008, 08:37 PM

This is shaping up to be a major event!

If you can't or don't want to stay overnight, please feel free to join us as a day tripper. Day passes will be available at the special discounted price of FREE.

If you are planning on joining us for an overnight stay, don't wait too long to book a room or camp space.

Friedle

PAULBACH

09-01-2008, 09:09 PM

The facilities are world class. The price is unbelievable.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Letters%20Dancing/Fdancing.gif http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Letters%20Dancing/RDancing.gif http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Letters%20Dancing/EDancing.gif http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Letters%20Dancing/EDancing.gif

stealthrider

09-01-2008, 09:27 PM

No tricks up our sleeves...... Admission is FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!

This is David who was doing card tricks on the summit when we were there in August.

conrac01

09-10-2008, 08:55 PM

Try the Catskill Motor Court.
google search on "hotels hunter mountain, ny" - all the reviews are great.
Rate is less than $100/night - double room

http://www.catskill-motorcourt.com/

:dance

PAULBACH

09-11-2008, 06:29 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/ClipArt/crying_baby.jpg
What - I can't go to Color in the Catskills?
Mom - Dad - It's free!

aaaaaa

09-14-2008, 06:05 PM

free.....day passes!!!!!!!

PAULBACH

09-14-2008, 07:10 PM

free.....day passes!!!!!!!

Right! Come and go as you please - no tickets, no wristbands, no parting with your cash unless of course you want to pick up some new farkle at 15 vendors who have committed to come. It is now OK to use the F word on the forum.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Letters%20Dancing/Fdancing.gif

FREE

Friedle

09-15-2008, 05:18 PM

Free ! I just bought a weekend pass from a Nigeria GS rider. :dunno

I sincerely hope you sent him the balance of his check to you in gold bullion as the good prince requested. I told him you would be good for it.

Friedle

stealthrider

09-18-2008, 08:30 PM

You don't need plaid pants and a skirt to attend Colors in the Catskills

jdmetzger

09-18-2008, 09:40 PM

You don't need plaid pants and a skirt to attend Colors in the Catskills

Thank gosh! I just invested most of my money in knobby tires and safety gear! Plus, I'm more of a paisley guy than plaid!

:p

Rob Nye

09-19-2008, 08:20 AM

For the dirt stuff here is what you need to know.

We will be having four training sessions / summit rides on Saturday and one on Sunday.

Thanks to Max BMW Motorcycles there will be an instructor from BMW's training center in Spartenburg, SC, however you do not have to be on a BMW to participate, all plated and legal bikes are welcome.

Again thanks to Max these sessions are FREE!

Sign up is first come, first served. I will keep a wait list.

To register please send an email to registration@minuteman1000.com. Please put Color in the subject line.

Please include your username (that's just for me), full name along with the make, model and year of your bike. If you have a preference as to which session please indicate this too.

Riders will have to sign a waiver to participate.

For the Oktoberfest, trials, off resort rides, party (with band) and everything else planned no sign up is necessary.

It's ALL FREE!

jdmetzger

09-19-2008, 08:32 AM

tessler

09-19-2008, 09:54 AM

Michael, I am not sure what you are up to but there is something fishy going on in the Catskills. This undercover video shows a white Porsche, and some guy GSsing without proper gear on the slope and some sort of make shift band stage. Is there another Woodstock going on ? Is Jim Morrison coming ? How come the garden herbs are still green ? :jose

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That is some pretty cool video. But, sheesh, Bethel is so far south of the actual Catskill Park, it's practically near Lake Wallenpaupack! ;)

Rob Nye

09-19-2008, 02:27 PM

Rob,

Are you free to ride to the summit by yourself, or is signing up with Max a requirement? Do you have specific times this will take place (1pm, 3pm, 5pm...)?

Thanks!

As it stands now the summit rides will be part of the training. If we have enough staff we may be taking addition groups to the summit.

We will be having four sessions on Saturday and one on Sunday. We will probably start at 8:30 on Saturday.

There will be no "open" riding on the hill.

Best,

Rob Nye

stealthrider

09-21-2008, 11:31 AM

Helmet - Check
Gloves - Check
Chest Protector - Check
Knobbies - Check
Engine - Hummm....

Don't be left out of the fun.... Come to the Colors in the Catskills..
Engines not required...

Visian

09-22-2008, 05:38 AM

Friedle

09-22-2008, 06:12 AM

Sorry to hear that Ian. There is always Sataurday and Sunday to show up and ride with us.

Remember folks, this is a 3 day event. Come for just one day or stay for the weekend, it's up to you. No matter how many days you come for, the price is the same..........FREE!!!

See you all in a couple of weeks.

Friedle

nytrashman

09-22-2008, 05:55 PM

i will ride up on Sat and just told my buddy about it (he rides a dakar) but i do not think he is interested.

Oldhway

09-22-2008, 06:20 PM

not looking good for yours truly.

a new business meeting in ohio on the friday of the event puts me too far away to get there in time, especially if i want to bring the HP2 with knobbies.

just dang. :(

ian

Quit!

It's that simple, just quit. Who needs a stinkin' job anyway. Eating and being able to pay the bills is so overated anyway.:banghead

Sorry to hear you won't be there.

PAULBACH

09-22-2008, 09:04 PM

Will you miss especially your talent with smugmug.

Visian

09-23-2008, 04:52 AM

Quit!

my boss won't let me! :ha

Visian

09-23-2008, 04:53 AM

...smugmug.

is that the same thing as smartass? ;)

PAULBACH

09-23-2008, 07:13 AM

is that the same thing as smartass? ;)

Nah, I am slowly being converted but can always appreciate help with the finer points. You are one of the best. :thumb

Visian

09-23-2008, 07:42 AM

Nah, I am slowly being converted...

come to the light, paul... come to the light! :ha

rocketman

09-23-2008, 07:44 AM

come to the light, paul... come to the light! :ha

and then when get there, he'll turn it off and leave you Still in the dark! :lol

RM

Visian

09-23-2008, 09:56 AM

Still in the dark! :lol

with knobs on. :cry

Rob Nye

09-23-2008, 10:56 AM

20 spots have been taken for the Dual Sport sessions, leaving approximately 25 left.

7 spots remain for the Lee Parks Advance riding clinics.

Plenty of room left to camp, plenty of rooms in the area.

dresserd

09-23-2008, 03:00 PM

Friedle

09-24-2008, 04:58 AM

Rob, when you say there are plenty of spots left to camp are you talking about the North and South lake camping area mentioned earlier that's about 10 miles away, or is there camping right at Hunter mountain?

I'm planning on camping either way. Anyone else?

There is NO camping on site at Hunter. The camping at North/South Lake is very nice and there are plenty of spots. This campground is one of the few state campgrounds that stays open after Labor Day, mostly for the hunting crowd. There is nothing in season the weekend of the Colors event so the place should be fairly empty except for our crowd. You can reserve a spot in advance or just show up at the gate.

Friedle

Rob Nye

09-24-2008, 05:47 AM

PAULBACH

09-24-2008, 04:08 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/0817HunterMt124s.jpg

This stealthy personality will be at Hunter Mountain as part of the Phototeam.

Any other photographers that would like to join the fun and sharpen skills for the National Rally next year.

aaaaaa

09-24-2008, 05:01 PM

This year as Micheal pointed out it is the North South Lake campground.

There will be a good crowd there.
It's going to be really crowded?
robert

PAULBACH

09-24-2008, 06:18 PM

I think you will find the grounds will be crowded during the day since it is also Oktoberfest at Hunter Mountain. But the crowds leave in the evening and then the place is ours.

During the day you will want to explore the Catskills or

find a bargain at the motorcycle vendors
get some lunch/dinner at thefood vendors
have a beer
ride the lift
taking pictures

Either way you win. Crowds are what make for a GREAT rally. :dance

hcmiller52

09-24-2008, 06:49 PM

Rob Nye

09-24-2008, 06:56 PM

Where is there plenty of room to camp, Rob?

At the North / South Lake campground.

Come on up!

stealthrider

09-24-2008, 07:21 PM

New York Transits finest enjoyed Hunter Mt....... So can you…… Come to Colors in the Catskills........ The mountains big enough for everyone..

stealthrider

09-24-2008, 08:02 PM

Vermont had the Old Man On The Mountain..... NY has Rip VanWinkle on Hunter Mt.
You can check out the story here http://www.catskillmtn.org/publications/articles/2007-07-rip-van-winkle-at-the-summit-of-hunter.html

rasherryan

09-24-2008, 08:31 PM

Hello everyone,
I am coming with a couple of buddies. Two of us really want to get in on the dual sport sessions. He has a F650 but I have a F800ST, any chance Max is bringing Demo bikes for the sessions??????

PAULBACH

09-24-2008, 08:48 PM

North-South Lake is the biggest and most popular state campground in the Catskill Forest Preserve, offering extraordinary scenic beauty, and historical sites, such as: Alligator Rock, Kaaterskill Falls, and the former site of the Catskill Mountain House. An abrupt change in elevation occurs from about 540 feet above sea level at the base of the escarpment to approximately 2,250 feet at the site of the former Catskill Mountain House. The provinces around the lakes have long provided visitors with exceptional views of the surrounding countryside. It is said that on a clear day, five states can be viewed from the escarpment.

For more details about North-South Campground click here (http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/24487.html)

PAULBACH

09-24-2008, 09:00 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/RT23.jpg
12.5 Miles from Campsite (1) to Hunter Mountain

stealthrider

09-24-2008, 09:36 PM

They must be expecting us.....

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/379818250_NuoFV-M.jpg

empeg9000

09-24-2008, 09:42 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/RT23.jpg
12.5 Miles from Campsite to Hunter Mountain

Route 23A is a most excellent road too!!! I highly recommend it! :german

Rob Nye

09-24-2008, 10:06 PM

rasherryan

09-25-2008, 07:13 AM

That's to bad for me, it's going to be a great time anyway....I might even be able to convince my buddy to let me use his F650. Thanks for the reply Rob....

Czarnazoo

09-25-2008, 03:37 PM

I thought that since Mike, Paul, Rob and Max have been sooooo cooperative and helpful with this event - that Hunter Mountain should give back a little.

I have been riding in the area for three years and have some favorite roads and businesses in Greene County. Since we're working closely with Greene County Tourism on this event as well.....I had an idea.

I'm going to put together a scavenger hunt type of ride. I'll work with Friedle on the route if he'll assist. The idea is to stop at between 5 and 10 businesses (not yet determined) to pick up 5 to 10 questions and/or clues about Hunter Mountain and the surroundings. Bring those questions and clues back on Saturday night and ponder the answers over a few cold ones. I'll collect them that night or Sunday morning and announce the winner at high noon on Sunday.

Working on the prizes today....stay tuned!

stealthrider

09-25-2008, 06:46 PM

I'm going to put together a scavenger hunt type of ride. I'll work with Friedle on the route if he'll assist. The idea is to stop at between 5 and 10 businesses (not yet determined) to pick up 5 to 10 questions and/or clues about Hunter Mountain and the surroundings. Bring those questions and clues back on Saturday night and ponder the answers over a few cold ones. I'll collect them that night or Sunday morning and announce the winner at high noon on Sunday.

Working on the prizes today....stay tuned!

Sounds like a great idea.. But since I doubt the new wheels for my RT will be in by next weekend I'll have to use the Hunter Mt. GS...
http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/379774215_gqrFo-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 06:50 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt163s.jpg
Scenery? Great Riding? Come to Color In The Catskills

bobs98

09-26-2008, 07:22 AM

No demo bikes.

Since I haven't been able to find knobbies for the C, I guess I'll have to ride pavement with Tessler .... :doh

Oldhway

09-26-2008, 11:01 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt163s.jpg
Scenery? Great Riding? Come to Color In The Catskills

Hey Paul, you interested in getting together and starting an Advertising firm? You are an absolute pit Bull at getting the message out. Well done.
We could call it Adv rider:) .

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 01:32 PM

Why thank you my esteemed colleague.

Actually just a poor ole country boy trying to spread the word about a good deal. :wave

This rally is for free and the music is free.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt303s.jpg
Can you imagine this site filled with bikers having some suds and subsistence? It's waiting for us in just one week.

Again, don't forget the F word - FREE!

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 03:49 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/Freidle03.jpg
You could be here one week from today and for FREE - no charge - gratis!
Photo by Friedle
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/smileyincedulous-1.gif

Kbike

09-26-2008, 04:55 PM

Paul

Was this photo showing the color change recent or leftover from another time.

Just looking to see how far south in NY to trees have started to change over.

Thanks
Rick

Friedle

09-26-2008, 05:21 PM

I took the photo the first weekend of October last year on the way to Hunter to continue planning the event. I think Paul may be posting some others I took on the same day later.

Only Mother Nature can determine if there will be a repeat this year.

Friedle

Friedle

09-26-2008, 05:24 PM

Check out the home page of the MOA web site!! Hope to see lots of you there.

:dance

Friedle

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 07:22 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/Freidle04.jpg
Photo by Friedle

No matter what the season the mountaineous terrain will provide superb riding and grand vistas.

stealthrider

09-26-2008, 08:25 PM

And after a day on the road or mountain grab a seat and enjoy the food.

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/379774211_4uxVK-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 08:29 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt317s.jpg
and add a cold brewski to those freshly made curly fries.

stealthrider

09-26-2008, 08:33 PM

Rip VanWinkles view from the summit.. Bet it looks even nicer with the fall colors

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/379818184_PeXWg-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 08:37 PM

Check out these names:

Andes
Big Indian
Cairo
Catskill
Delhi
Geneva
Guilderland
Hague
Ilion
Lackawack
Monticello
Oneonta
Phonecia
Roscoe
Rotterdam
Woodstock
and now check out this website (http://www.motorcycleroads.us/ny.html#cm)

to find 27 great rides, under the heading, Catskills, from 8 miles to 290 miles. Each ride has a description and a map.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/woodstock.jpg
Remember Woodstock?

wezul

09-26-2008, 08:39 PM

Who 'dat? *schnicker*

stealthrider

09-26-2008, 08:49 PM

This event is FREE...... So..........
http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/379774234_2BBGu-M.jpg
I know the picture has to do with snowboarding... But the question is just as relevant to motercycles..... So..... Why Aren't You Riding??

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 08:51 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt344s.jpg
The food choices will be mouth watering! So why aren't you going?

wezul

09-26-2008, 08:56 PM

Now you're killin' me.
Sausages!
Even of an undetermined nature.
(Looks like a Bratwurst properly dressed)

stealthrider

09-26-2008, 09:02 PM

Where the Texas Tornados (curly fries) come from....

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/380946077_cwB6K-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 09:11 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0929HunterMt039s.jpg
And this is the creative way to cut up those big spuds. This picture was taken in 2007 but in 07 or 08 the food was great. But, come and test it for yourself.

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 09:22 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/Friedle05.jpg
Want to ride some back roads? Photo by Friedle

Come to Color In The Catskills

stealthrider

09-26-2008, 09:26 PM

Paul I don't know if I can keep this pace up... I may run out of photos before the weekends over....

Here's the lounge in the main lodge..

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/380959188_NxUaL-M.jpg

Oldhway

09-26-2008, 09:36 PM

And the long term weather forecast is looking great. Cool and mostly sunny. let's hope they have it right.:thumb

PAULBACH

09-26-2008, 09:42 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/0929HunterMt012c.jpg
Bachorz - - Ascher - - Friedle

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/080817HunterMt144s.jpg
Stealthrider and son

Honest folks, this venue is world class and is well worth a day's ride to get there. Stealthrider and I spent a day there and hope you will join us again in just a week.

stealthrider

09-26-2008, 09:50 PM

And here's Paul and Czarnazoo...

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/380971758_rpURg-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 07:01 AM

That's why they are called "whethermen" http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/cool17.gif

Not sure whether it will rain or shine
Not sure whether it will be warm or cold
Not sure whether it will be cloudy or bright
But one thing we can all be sure of - everyone who comes is a plank owner and will have one hell of a good time. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/partydance.gif
Color in the Catskills

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 07:14 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/Freidle01.jpg
What do you want? http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/grump.gif

roads easy and gentle?
roads twisty?
roads gnarly?
roads with switchbacks?
roads with breathtaking scenery?
trial rides?
hill climbing?
riding schools
seminars?
high quality vendors?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/bigwink.gif

Then you want Color In The Catskills

stealthrider

09-27-2008, 08:56 AM

Don't worry about the weather.... The Sun is always shining at Hunter Mt.

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/381004458_CBhn6-M.jpg

Join us at Color In The Catskills and see for yourself.

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 09:58 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Famous%20Mugs/whatmewortry.jpg
What Me Worry?

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt339s.jpg
A couple of these and I have no worries. One of the food vendors that will be at the rally.

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 10:20 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/500%20Miles/500HunterMt.jpg

Akron
Allentown
Ballston Spa
Baltimore
Bangor
Binghamton
Boston
Bridgeport
Buffalo
Burlington
Cleveland
Columbus
Cornwall
Delhi
Detroit
Hartford
Ithaca
Kingston
London
Manchester
Montpelier
Montréal
Newport
New York City
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
Québec City
Richmond
Rochester
Springfield
St. John
Scranton
Sudbury
Syracuse
Toronto
Utica
Virginia Beach
Washington, DC
Worcester
If you live within this circle then you are within one day's ride of:

Color In The Catskills

franze

09-27-2008, 11:13 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt317s.jpg
and add a cold brewski to those freshly made curly fries.

Will there be a Lipitor booth?

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 01:57 PM

Will there be a Lipitor booth?

Caveat Em tor: There will be no nannies watching out for correct diet as we have watching for correct speech. :laugh

Color In The Catskills

Oldhway

09-27-2008, 02:01 PM

Caveat Em tor: There will be no nannies watching out for correct diet as we have watching for correct speech. :laugh

Humph :huh

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 02:06 PM

Click on this link (http://www.weather.com/weather/extended/USNY1437?par=yahoo&site=www.yahoo.com&promo=extendedforecast&cm_ven=Yahoo&cm_cat=www.yahoo.com&cm_pla=forecastpage&cm_ite=CityPage)

for latest rally forecast. But remember the forecasters are whethermen!

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 02:35 PM

There are always a few "skunks" in attendance. :hungover

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 02:37 PM

“The region’s beautiful, it’s cheap, it’s quiet, and (most important), it isn’t the Hamptons…There’s a country setting here for practically everyone: densely forested mountains with panoramic views; farmlands on the western fringe of the park, where parcels run to the hundreds of acres; bustling historic towns on the banks of the Hudson.”
New York Magazine

Watch a video of the Catskills. (http://www.visitthecatskills.com/vid.htm) (Ignore the snow. That's for much later.)

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 03:56 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/catskills01.jpg

Colors in the Catskills Overview (http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29841)

Introduction (http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally/catskills08/)

Schedule (http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally/catskills08/schedule.htm)

Vendors (http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally/catskills08/vendors.htm)

Offroad (http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally/catskills08/offroad.htm)

Onroad (http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally/catskills08/onroad.htm)

Try the official NY state tourism website featuring the Catskills. Download the highway map for the Catskills at this website. Click Here (http://iloveny.com/MapsRegions/Catskills.aspx)

terham

09-27-2008, 04:34 PM

Beer in plastic cups !

Kinda like wine in a box??

stealthrider

09-27-2008, 06:25 PM

Follow the sound of the drums to Hunter Mt. for........

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/381507418_TQGyW-M.jpg

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-27-2008, 07:08 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt168s.jpg
The Big Wheels are waiting at Hunter Mountain for ...

Color In The Catskills

stealthrider

09-27-2008, 09:13 PM

Doors open and everyone's welcome at the Color In The Catskills

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/381004446_bizXT-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-28-2008, 06:03 AM

Nah the Northway, I-87, has a few stretches of level land to conduct a search. The Catskills are very hilly and rural.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt099s-1.jpg
The landscape is so quiet a man could go to sleep and wake up twenty years later.

PAULBACH

09-28-2008, 06:07 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/Catskills02.jpg
Come early and stay late. There is a lot to see.
Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-28-2008, 10:55 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/CityTraffic.jpg
City Traffic

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/catskills03.jpg
or Color In The Catskills

stealthrider

09-28-2008, 12:05 PM

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/381622669_FjhpX-M.jpg

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/381622660_ADLB5-M.jpg

The Learning Center at Hunter Mt. our home for Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-28-2008, 06:08 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt294s.jpg
Review your basic climbing skills at Hunter and then head to the Gunks (http://www.gunks.com/index.php?pageid=2&pagenum=1&smGroup=2)

hcmiller52

09-28-2008, 07:13 PM

I found plenty of space available at Devil's Tombstone campground (DEC campground). It's only 3 miles from Hunter, $14/night and a nice campground. It's closer to the event than North/South Lake (not as beautiful, perhaps) and cheaper.

PAULBACH

09-28-2008, 07:22 PM

Nice find Curt. This is going to be one heck of a rally, a party, an event - whatever it is!

stealthrider

09-28-2008, 07:30 PM

Here's the signs in front of the office at Devils Tombstone..

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/382404710_YGWJV-M.jpg

Checked it out in August..
You can find out more info at http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/24462.html

hcmiller52

09-28-2008, 07:51 PM

Nice find Curt. This is going to be one heck of a rally, a party, an event - whatever it is!It sure is. Can't wait. I was out riding in the dirt in Vermont last Sunday with Ben and Steve from Max's and it whet my appetite to learn more about off-road riding, so it will be me and my X-Challenge next weekend.

bmwgsrider

09-28-2008, 09:47 PM

Paul,

You are killing me with the beautiful pictures of the Catskills... I need to stop looking at this thread...

PAULBACH

09-28-2008, 09:50 PM

Come on up here in the fall and I'll head to Texas in the winter. :thumb

Stealthrider has worked to give all a picture of New York that is not usually seen. The location is about 90 minutes from NYC.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/Catskills_beyond_Hudson.jpg
A Shot from the internet featuring the east bank of Hudson.

Color In The Catskills

bmwgsrider

09-28-2008, 10:24 PM

PAULBACH

09-29-2008, 06:56 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/oktoberfest_logo.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/0817HunterMt175s.jpg
This is going to be a family friendly rally so - PLEASE - bring the family as there is plenty to see and do for all interests and all ages.
This shot was taken at the top of Hunter Mountain proof that the whole mountain is accessible to family outings.

Check out all these family friendly events. (http://www.huntermtn.com/huntermtn/SiteAssets/files/festivals/oktoberfest_schedule_2008.pdf)

Dozens of crafters, food vendors, bands and liquid refreshments. Hunter Mt is the peak at the end of the season.

And then for two wheelers there is our own harvest of bountiful events (http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally/catskills08/schedule.htm).

PAULBACH

09-29-2008, 11:05 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Smilies/compass.gif

Looking for a great diner in the Hunter Mountain area?

Our usually accurate, completely reliable gourmet dinning service recommends the following:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/StelaNick.jpg
Selena & Nick's Diner
5701 Route 23a # A
Tannersville, NY 12485
(518) 589-0438

Distance from Hunter Mountain is about 8 Miles or 18 Minutes
Distance from Devil's Tombstone is about 4.2 Miles or 5 Minutes
Distance from North-South Campground is about 4.6 Miles or 8 Minutes
(from Microsoft Streets and Trips)

Big Silver Diner - Brian says you can't miss it!

Color In The Catskills

stealthrider

09-29-2008, 06:04 PM

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/380989916_8xJtc-M.jpg

No plans this weekend.... Follow the crowd to Hunter Mt. for the FREE Color In The Catskills event.

PAULBACH

09-29-2008, 06:44 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/GermanBeer.jpg
Prosit!

stealthrider

09-29-2008, 07:50 PM

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/383326966_zL7WQ-M.jpg

Don't be a lazy bum.. Get up and get moving to Color In The Catskills

jbarnesvt

09-29-2008, 08:58 PM

I just got a reservation for a 1 bedroom condo that has 2 beds fir $ 135. I called the reservation on the Hunter Mtn web site. She did say it was the last one.

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 08:01 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/HunterGrossjohan.jpg

Photo by Alex Grossjohann
Don't forget the price for a premier rally - FREE

Color In The Catskills

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 10:31 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/HunterGrossjohan07.jpg
Photo by Alex Grossjohann

and you will meet some interesting folks

Don't forget the price for a premier rally - FREE

Color In The Catskills

roburnmc

09-30-2008, 10:46 AM

These pictures are cool, please keep teasing us. I'll be coming from Lancaster PA via mostly back roads. I can hardly wait. Tell us the local forecast for this weekend.
I love autumn riding.
Mike

stealthrider

09-30-2008, 12:02 PM

The forecast according to Weather.com

Friday Oct 3

Few Showers
High 51°F
Low 36°F
Precip: 30%
Wind: WSW at 12 mph
UV Index: 5 Moderate
Humidity: 72%
Sunrise: 6:57 AM
Sunset: 6:34 PM

Few showers. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s.

Saturday 4

Mostly Sunny
High 54°F
Low 36°F
Precip: 20%
Wind:W at 7 mph
UV Index: 5 Moderate
Humidity: 72%
Sunrise: 6:58 AM
Sunset: 6:32 PM

More sun than clouds. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the mid 30s.

Sunday 5

Mostly Sunny
High 55°F
Low 37°F
Precip: 20%
Wind: NW at 6 mph
UV Index: 5 Moderate
Humidity: 70%
Sunrise: 6:59 AM
Sunset: 6:31 PM

Plenty of sun. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the upper 30s.

tessler

09-30-2008, 12:13 PM

Just spent all of last week and weekend up at our place in Delaware County (western Catskills) and the colors are going to be peak this week.

http://tessler.smugmug.com/photos/383118384_XpbuA-M.jpg (http://tessler.smugmug.com/gallery/6099228_avtJH#383118169_JenYE)

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 01:24 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/HunterGrossjohan06.jpg

Photo by Alex Grossjohann
Peak color will look something like this.

Color In The Catskills is FREE

CH2Ous

09-30-2008, 01:38 PM

I might actually meet some of you guys this time....
Depending on where you are coming from you might want to go through Woodstock. Take Route 212 through Shady and Willow out to Phoenicia. (Sweet Sues for Breakfast is awesome lunch and dinner too. Then take route 214 up to Hunter Tannersville.
I know some other really great leaf peepin rides through the Catskills to get to Hunter if you are interested....
Me and my girls live here :wave

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 01:53 PM

Send me a lit of the towns on each ride and I'll use Microsoft's Streets and trips to create and then post each route.

Thanks :thumb :thumb

Paul

CH2Ous

09-30-2008, 03:10 PM

Hi Paul,
The entire area is familiar to me and I continue to map routes in my head. There are many great 1 hour fun rides around this area. You could pick any of the towns on the outskirts of the Catskill Park area and map a route up through to Hunter and not be disappointed.

I was referring to the different routes one could take from Woodstock as it is the gateway to the Catskills. The Woodstock Film Festival is also happening this weekend so its going to be jumping with celebs.
Depending on how much back road scenery you want there are a few different routes. Some are more twisty than others :brad I see that you posted what looks like a shot from the Platt Clove road on the way to Hunter.... as well as the Woodstock Wizard. The Platt Clove road is stunning, closed from December to May. You have to get off your bike along the way to feast on the vistas.

You could also go through the center of town up Rock City road to the 4 way intersection. Go straight through intersection on to Meads Mountain road. That will take you up to the Zen Monastery. Here there is a hiking trail up Overlook Mountain. ( no bikes allowed :( ) But, its a great hike to vistas that over look the Hudson valley and North to the rest of the Catskill Mountains. The road then takes you down the back side of Meads Mountain ( great peeping) to Mc Daniel Road where you take a left. This connects you back up on route 212 where you take a right and go for about 10 miles. At a 4 way intersection you take another right onto Old State Road 28 or go straight to Route 28 ( Not recommended). This will bring you to Phoenicia where you can then take route 214 ( recommended )or Route 28 to route 42 to Hunter...
These are routes coming from East or South of the Catskill park.
From the North ( NYS Thruway) Getting off at one of the Catskill exits to Route 32 which is also fantastic.

tessler

09-30-2008, 04:21 PM

Hey Chris! I'll be starting out from Roxbury and heading East around midday Friday. Would you be amenable to leading some rides around Greene and Ulster counties at some point over the weekend? Platt Cove road is amazing as you describe (curious, but is it possible to take Mink Hollow road from Elka Park down to 212?). Took a nice zip up and down route 214 last week. Great fall weather :D

Totally looking forward to meeting you this weekend! :thumb

CH2Ous

09-30-2008, 04:56 PM

Hi Jonathan,
I would be honored... I am more accustomed to Ulster county. Perhaps a road trip around the Ashokan Reservoir?
I don't think they've connected the two ends of Mink Hollow road. That road however has inspired songs by great musicans of the area.
I never found you guys during the last Rally in Rhinebeck. I parked with the crowd at the Aerodrome and watched the show then went sailing. Missed out on the camp activities.
I am planning to make it up to the rally early Saturday.

tessler

09-30-2008, 05:09 PM

This isn't everything, but it's probably the best in the Western Catskills (the Delaware/Ulster County border). Tastebuds restaurant in Roxbury closed and reopened as Cassie's Cafe (I think they're related to the same in Andes, NY). The Griffin's Corner restaurant in Fleischmanns closed down.
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Delhi Diner‎
95 Main St, Delhi, NY (607) 746-2207

East Branch Cafe‎
53657 State Highway 30, Roxbury, NY (607) 326-7763

T Bar Saloon‎
50500 State Highway 30, Roxbury, NY (607) 326-7500

Binnekill Square Restaurant‎
746 Main, Margaretville, NY (845) 586-4884

Bun N' Cone (very popular)
86 Bridge, Margaretville, NY (845) 586-4440

Peekamoose Restaurant & Tap Room ‎(a little $, but very nice)
8373 State Route 28, Big Indian, NY (845) 254-6500

Sweet Sue's Restaurant ‎
49 Main St, Phoenicia, NY (845) 688-7852

Al's Restaurant (another old standby)
10 Main Street, Phoenicia, NY (845)-688-5880

stealthrider

09-30-2008, 05:15 PM

I was just thinking we should try to setup a time/place to meet Friday or Saturday night to say hi in person... and maybe sample an October beverage..:beer

empeg9000

09-30-2008, 05:52 PM

terham

09-30-2008, 05:53 PM

I'm guessing this isn't what you had in mind. :whistle
http://terham.smugmug.com/photos/383997728_Fkv96-M.jpg

CH2Ous

09-30-2008, 06:04 PM

I think I was one of the first to make my reservation when it was first announced. I decided to spring for the on site condo for once and live it up. I'm normally an on the cheap guy but this might be my last long weekend of the year so why the heck not. :brad

You are talking about the Hunter Ski lodge? I stayed there with my wife last winter for a weekend getaway.... it was $300 a night and a little touristy for my tastes but it was certainly fun. It is a bit expensive up in these parts but its all because of demand. A most beautiful backyard to NYC and NJ.

empeg9000

09-30-2008, 06:09 PM

You are talking about the Hunter Ski lodge? I stayed there with my wife last winter for a weekend getaway.... it was $300 a night and a little touristy for my tastes but it was certainly fun. It is a bit expensive up in these parts but its all because of demand. A most beautiful backyard to NYC and NJ.
Yup. At the Kaatskill Mountian Club. It wasn't $300 a night but its not cheap. I think it was 240 or something.

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 06:27 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/08%20Hunter%20Mt/HunterGrossjohan05.jpg

Photo by Alex Grossjohann
There is a lot of room to roam around the Catskills

Color In The Catskills is FREE

CH2Ous

09-30-2008, 06:38 PM

I know that spot ;)
Just below in that gorge are some beautiful swimming holes.... real native Brookies in ther too. Shhhh dont tell anyone :whistle

lineman126

09-30-2008, 06:41 PM

Well I am officially being forced to work this coming weekend.:banghead
I hope everyone has a great and safe weekend.

Czarnazoo

09-30-2008, 07:34 PM

Since you'll all be riding around Greene County this weekend. I wanted to give you the chance to win some prizes for your effort.

They'll be clues/questions at each of these businesses - just stop by and pick them up - bring them back, ponder the answer over a beer and hand them to me on Saturday night or Sunday morning. In the event of a tie - winners will be tossed in a hat and drawn by an honest member of the BMWMOA.

The winner will have the gathered the most questions with the most correct answers and gets to choose either the first place or second place prize.

First Place receives a mid-week seasons pass at Hunter Mountain complete with deeply discounted weekend tickets.

Second Place will receive two nights lodging in a one-bedroom condo at the 2009 Color in the Catskills festival.

Third Place gets four lift tickets good for any day of the 2008/2009 winter season.

Here's the names of the businesses - stop by starting on Friday morning.

1. Traphagens Honey - Route 23A - just west of rt 296 - outside the village of Hunter.

2. Beth's Cafe - Route 23 - Prattsville

3. Catskill Mountain Country Store - Route 23 - Main Street - Windham

4. Guaranteed Irish - Route 145 - East Durham

5. Greene County Tourism Info Center - Route 23B - Leeds (just off exit 21 of the NY Thruway)

6. Catskill Historic Point Museum - end of Main Street & Hudson River - Catskill

7. Story Farms Produce Stand - Intersection of 23A and Rt 32 - Catskill

8. Twilight General Store - the fork of North/South Lake Road - Haines Falls

9. Astor House - Route 23A - Tannersville

10. The Baselodge Bar - Hunter Mountain Ski Resort

This makes for a really great ride. Leave Hunter travel west down 23A to Prattsville - catch back up with 23 towards Windham - head up Mitchell Hollow Road in Windham to County Route 10 - make right and travel down into East Durham area - meander down to Leeds - across to Catskill - and back up 23 towards Hunter. If you're headed down to the riding school or just riding around - your're sure to cross paths with each of these businesses on the course.

Who's up for the challenge?

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 08:11 PM

I know that spot ;)
Just below in that gorge are some beautiful swimming holes.... real native Brookies in ther too. Shhhh dont tell anyone :whistle

As long as http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/ClipArt/Avatars/Snoone.gif doesn't find out the fish are safe.

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 08:13 PM

They'll be clues/questions at each of these businesses - just stop by and pick them up - bring them back, ponder the answer over a beer and hand them to me on Saturday night or Sunday morning. In the event of a tie - winners will be tossed in a hat and drawn by an honest member of the BMWMOA.
Most of them either fish or play golf.

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 08:22 PM

Well I am officially being forced to work this coming weekend.
I hope everyone has a great and safe weekend.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/ClipArt/TotheBarricades.jpg

lineman126
See the solution to such tyranny above. - Aux Barricades!

CH2Ous

09-30-2008, 08:29 PM

Catch and release.....
Brokkies are the the closest thing to tropical we have... amoung the most beautiful fish to sport gills.

My Dad said once: "You could have been another Tiger Woods."
I replied: "Well... if they allowed bikes on the course......."

stealthrider

09-30-2008, 09:08 PM

Great roads and scenery… A scavenger hunt with outstanding prizes… Riding schools… Seminars… Trials competition… Vendors…. Entertainment & German beer after a day of riding…. All for the low price of FREE…. So grab your favorite riding partner and head to Color In The Catskills at Hunter Mt.

http://trlambert.smugmug.com/photos/384096717_6ZzSB-M.jpg

PAULBACH

09-30-2008, 09:22 PM

And perfect weather forecasted. What more could one want? Look at this circle again and pack up the gear...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/500%20Miles/500HunterMt.jpg

Akron
Allentown
Ann Arbor
Ballston Spa
Baltimore
Bangor
Binghamton
Boston
Bridgeport
Buffalo
Burlington
Cleveland
Columbus
Cornwall
Delhi
Detroit
Hartford
Ithaca
Kingston
London
Manchester
Montpelier
Montréal
Newport
New York City
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
Portland
Québec City
Richmond
Rochester
Springfield
Saint John
Scranton
Sudbury
Syracuse
Toledo
Toronto
Utica
Virginia Beach
Washington, DC
Worcester
If you live within this circle then you are within one day's ride of:

Color In The Catskills

jdmetzger

09-30-2008, 09:30 PM

And perfect weather forecasted. What more could one want? Look at this circle again and pack up the gear...

Akron
Allentown
Ballston Spa
Baltimore
Bangor
Binghamton
Boston
Bridgeport
Buffalo
Burlington
Cleveland
Columbus
Cornwall
Delhi
Detroit
Hartford
Ithaca
Kingston
London
Manchester
Montpelier
Montréal
Newport
New York City
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
Portland
Québec City
Richmond
Rochester
Springfield
St. John
Scranton
Sudbury
Syracuse
Toronto
Utica
Virginia Beach
Washington, DC
Worcester
If you live within this circle then you are within one day's ride of:

Color In The Catskills

Oh sure; leave out Toledo, even though it JUUUUUST falls within the magic circle. :) It's OK - I'll be there. Departure is tomorrow - riding doesn't look to great (rain) but after that should be A-OK!

tessler

10-01-2008, 06:10 AM

CH2Ous

10-01-2008, 07:00 AM

Are you bringing Tony Packo's for everyone?

(I hope...)

Safe travels, Josh, and see you this weekend. :)

Did you ever make it to Walter's in Mamaroneck?

PAULBACH

10-01-2008, 07:02 AM

Oh sure; leave out Toledo, even though it JUUUUUST falls within the magic circle. :) It's OK - I'll be there. Departure is tomorrow - riding doesn't look to great (rain) but after that should be A-OK!

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Scenic%20Shots/Skyline_of_Toledo_Ohio.jpg

Mia culpa, mia culpa, mia maxima culpa. The residents of the Glass City and Auto Parts Capital of the World deserve a Oktoberfest Libation from the creator of the "Magic Circle." That drink is on me, my esteemed colleague.

jdmetzger

10-01-2008, 07:02 AM

Are you bringing Tony Packo's for everyone?

(I hope...)

Safe travels, Josh, and see you this weekend. :)

I'll bring the Packo's, but I can't guarantee it won't be eaten before I get there. :)

My first day of riding (today) isn't looking too enjoyable. I'm leaving from work and riding right into rain - I'm a bit stressed about rain and knobby tires... and some bad history I have on this specific section of road. Then again, I think it's time to exorcise those demons. See you this weekend! :thumb

PAULBACH

10-01-2008, 07:08 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Big%20GIG%20in%20NYC/FamilyReunionStickers.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Big%20GIG/1228biggig106c.jpg
BIG Gig Family Reunion
Time to renew family ties and welcome new members to the BIG Gig fold. Ride safe Josh and remember there are free suds on this end.

Oldhway

10-01-2008, 07:17 AM

I'll bring the Packo's, but I can't guarantee it won't be eaten before I get there. :)

My first day of riding (today) isn't looking too enjoyable. I'm leaving from work and riding right into rain - I'm a bit stressed about rain and knobby tires... and some bad history I have on this specific section of road. Then again, I think it's time to exorcise those demons. See you this weekend! :thumb

Hey Josh, ride safe and see you at Hunter!

PAULBACH

10-01-2008, 07:50 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Friedles%20Rally/HunterMtview.jpg

There is great news especially for photographers. Mother nature is sending rain today to wash off all the leaves and get rid of dust and dirt from the motor surfaces.

The weather this weekend will be fabulous - just remember to bring the warm sleeping bag.

For the latest weather information click here (http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USNY1437.html).

bobs98

10-01-2008, 07:58 AM

Looking forward to seeing everyone. (Where's Snoone?)

Staying at the Kaatskill Mtn Club with a couple of Chromehead buddies. :nod

But 2 of them will be riding GS's. :doh

Guess I'll be riding the pavement, can't find knobbies for the C. :thumb

PAULBACH

10-01-2008, 09:01 AM

Since there are at least four threads going for this rally, hope you did not miss this one by CZARNAZOO!

Big Prizes at Colors in the Catskills!
Since you'll all be riding around Greene County this weekend. I wanted to give you the chance to win some prizes for your effort.

They'll be clues/questions at each of these businesses - just stop by and pick them up - bring them back, ponder the answer over a beer and hand them to me on Saturday night or Sunday morning. In the event of a tie - winners will be tossed in a hat and drawn by an honest member of the BMWMOA.

The winner will have the gathered the most questions with the most correct answers and gets to choose either the first or second place prize.

First Place receives a mid-week seasons pass at Hunter Mountain complete with deeply discounted weekend tickets.

Second Place will receive two nights lodging in a one-bedroom condo at the 2009 Color in the Catskills festival.

Third Place gets four lift tickets good for any day of the 2008/2009 winter season.

Here's the names of the businesses - stop by starting on Friday morning.

1. Traphagens Honey - Route 23A - just west of rt 296 - outside the village of Hunter.

2. Beth's Cafe - Route 23 - Prattsville

3. Catskill Mountain Country Store - Route 23 - Main Street - Windham

4. Guaranteed Irish - Route 145 - East Durham

5. Greene County Tourism Info Center - Route 23B - Leeds (just off exit 21 of the NY Thruway)

6. Catskill Historic Point Museum - end of Main Street & Hudson River - Catskill

7. Story Farms Produce Stand - Intersection of 23A and Rt 32 - Catskill

8. Twilight General Store - the fork of North/South Lake Road - Haines Falls

9. Astor House - Route 23A - Tannersville

10. The Baselodge Bar - Hunter Mountain Ski Resort

This makes for a really great ride. Leave Hunter travel west down 23A to Prattsville - catch back up with 23 towards Windham - head up Mitchell Hollow Road in Windham to County Route 10 - make right and travel down into East Durham area - meander down to Leeds - across to Catskill - and back up 23 towards Hunter. If you're headed down to the riding school or just riding around - your're sure to cross paths with each of these businesses on the course.

Who's up for the challenge?

PAULBACH

10-01-2008, 09:10 AM

stealthrider

10-01-2008, 09:46 AM

How about a breakfast get together
Saturday:
07:00

Selena & Nick's Diner
5701 Route 23a # A
Tannersville, NY 12485
(518) 589-0438

I know that may seem early but with so much going on, I hate to miss any of it!

Don't forget to bring your camera!

Breakfast sounds good to me.. however I'm bringing a teenage daughter.. Anything before noon is early for them... But we'll do our best to be there.. As for cameras, we'll have several....