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csuttyr60
08-05-2008, 09:17 AM
I recently purchased a 76 r60/6 and while changing the oil, I noticed the split oil filter came with many orings. when i removed the cap on the oil filter, it had no oring on it, but the clymer manual shows one on it. shoulld there have been one on there?
thanks from the newbie.
AnnapolisAirhead
08-06-2008, 10:48 AM
There is the $2000 oil change (Heard it was $3500 adjusted for current inflation) that has to do with improperly making an oil filter change. If you are not sure, DON'T RIDE the bike until you are.
Assuming that you do not have an oil cooler on the bike, you need an o-ring (usually white) and possibly a metal shim and paper gasket.
Bob's sells this as a kit for non-oil cooler bikes, part nbr: is the same as the filter element, (so BMW produces it I think). Comes in a BMW box from BMW Group. Contains a hinged filter ( a Cost is $19.95. Note, they also sell the same filter element separately (wtf??) for $13.95, although most folks have told me that you should never do an oil change and re-use the old o-ring. I bought a pair of the kits.
Part nbr: 11 00 9 056 145 (kit)
Filter length: 11.8cm (filter part nbr 11 42 1 337 570 (0X37))
Contents: Filter, Paper gasket, White O-ring, Metal Shim, Drain Plug Crush Washer
The filter should go on in this order:
Filter element
Shim
O-ring
Paper Gasket
Cover Plate
There is much discussion about PSI passing through the filter element and depth of the lip on the mouth of the oil filter recess. The debates go on about whether or not you need to use the shim as the recessed lip immediately inside the lip of filter housing is. I think a good rule of thumb is that when you take the old o-ring out (not in your current case, of course) the cross section of the o-ring should be square, indicating that it is properly seated and working--so no need for the metal shim. If on the other hand the o-ring cross section is still round (like a new one), there is too much slack in the whole rig and you need the shim (or maybe a couple). There are all kinds of thoughts and opinions on this, this is just mine.
The kit also includes an aluminum crush washer for the oil pan drain plug. I bought a dozen of those too and make a habit of changing them every time.
My '76 R90/6 required a O-ring as well as my current '83 R100. Check out the link to a diagram for your bike from MaxBMW in kstoo's post below. I think what the folks below are suggesting is that if your cover plate loks like #13 in the diagram, you need an O-ring. If it looks like #3 in the diagram, you may not. I'd just call a BMW dealer and ask them. Also, if you can get ahold of an article that "Oak" wrote concerning oil filter and PSI, that would be good reading. I can't seem to find it right now.
Hope this helps. But you almost certainly need an o-ring on a non-cooler filter change. :thumb
--Tony
kstoo
08-06-2008, 11:51 AM
seeing as how you have a R60/6 I don't think that the $#### o-ring story applies. If you have an inner filter cap bolted on underneath the filter cover (see items 1 - 8) then the only thing that you have to do is be careful that the small square o-ring (item 7) came out with the oil filter. there should be one on both ends and the inside one sometimes has to be fished out with a hooked piece of wire. If you have no inner cover and do have the large white o-ring (items 13 - 16) then study up on that as previously stated.
Rod Sheridan
08-06-2008, 11:56 AM
As a long time R90/6 rider, I can attest to the fact that kstoo has given you correct advice.
There is no large O ring or shim on the R90/6 oil filter, just the small O rings on the filter. The filter element doesn't have to be hinged, I always use the straight one.
Have fun riding your /6...........Regards, Rod.
AnnapolisAirhead
08-06-2008, 12:56 PM
As a long time R90/6 rider, I can attest to the fact that kstoo has given you correct advice.
There is no large O ring or shim on the R90/6 oil filter, just the small O rings on the filter. The filter element doesn't have to be hinged, I always use the straight one.
Have fun riding your /6...........Regards, Rod.
Rod,
Where do you get the straight filters? Every dealer I've asked told me that they are no longer made. Even BeemerBoneyard is out of stock on the Mahle 0X35 straight filters.
Is there another source? :dunno
kstoo
08-06-2008, 05:08 PM
[QUOTE=AnnapolisAirhead;354487]Where do you get the straight filters? ... /QUOTE]
I just pulled one out of a box that had a date code of 1987 on it! It went into the R60/6.:whistle
csuttyr60
08-07-2008, 02:19 PM
thanks for the scematic. cleared thigns up with the visual. mine is the lower picture with no oring.thanks again.
.....waiting to win the lottery so i can ride all the time.....:drink
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