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timrfo
08-03-2008, 07:53 AM
I just bought a 1977 R100 and was wondering how hard would be to install an oil cooler. Tim
20774
08-03-2008, 08:05 AM
Just curious, why? One could argue that the oil will be fine without the cooler, it adds a possible failure point in the lubrication system, and increases the complexity of changing oil/filters. :dunno
DARRYL CAINEY
08-03-2008, 08:40 AM
I just bought a 1977 R100 and was wondering how hard would be to install an oil cooler. Tim
If you want to put an oil cooler on do the easier route!
Put on a flow through cooler between the block and your oil pan.
It increases your oil capacity by one quart and air flows through 3 holes running front to back cooling the oil.
It requires two oilpan gasgets and an extention of the oil pickup and longer oilpan bolts. It is relativley easy to install and it dosen't hinder changing the filter.
Siebenrock from Germany sells them for around $200.
I have been running one for over 300,000 miles!
Darryl
roncooper
08-03-2008, 09:37 AM
I put a pan extender on a 75 60/6 and had to cut a crossbar out of the centerstand. The stand still worked fine for many miles .
Ron
timrfo
08-03-2008, 09:45 AM
Thanks for the infor I know some say you don't need it some says you do but I know cooler oil will do a better job ...:thumb
lkchris
08-03-2008, 10:22 AM
BTDT It's a medium hard job.
Just understand that cooler works at high rpm, high load situations, i.e. fast highway driving.
sgborgstrom
08-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Thanks for the infor I know some say you don't need it some says you do but I know cooler oil will do a better job ...:thumb
To be a bit more precise, oil at the proper viscosity will do a better job.
You're talking about modifying a bike that's been running around for 31 years (along with tens of thousands of it's counterparts) quite happily without an oil cooler all this time and suddenly it needs one?
Your money, your bike, do what you will with both but I'm not sure you are "solving" anything with this.
The_Veg
08-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Depends too on where you live. If you're as far south as I am, you might want it.
lostboy
08-03-2008, 10:11 PM
Many years ago I did some oil temperature testing. My R100 with forged pistons and Crane cam would show frightening temperatures at sustained high speeds (110+) -upward of 300F. An aftermarket cooler got it under control. Another, stock R100 would barely break 200 under the same circumstance.
But what you asked was how difficult it is to install a cooler. The OEM cooler is a fair bit of work; you have to remove the stub the filter mounts on from the crankcase and replace it with longer one used with the cooler. It's also wise to install a 1984 RH header pipe which is dented to make filter changes easier.
lkchris
08-04-2008, 10:24 AM
Oil cooler is a good idea, but if you're worried about heat first thing you should do is use synthetic motor oil. There are NO downsides despite lots of old wives' tales out there.
AnnapolisAirhead
08-04-2008, 10:33 AM
FWIW I just inquired at Bob's BMW over the weekend regarding cost, they indicated it'd be around $500 ponies...I think the deeper pan and/or a Braill<sp> flow thru mentioned above would be more cost effective. Then again, I don't ride at 110MPH. ;-)
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