View Full Version : Tube Sealant In A Can
jforgo
05-29-2008, 03:23 PM
Has anyone used any of this type stuff to fix a punture in a tube type?
Or as a preventative?
If so, what kind did you use?
Years ago, there was some stuff called "ACP Balance Plus" which was supposed to prevent punctures from always equalling flats. I recall this as being somewhat effective.
Now, of course, in our litigous millenial America, there are all sorts of warnings on these products, about using only at low speed, causing imbalance, etc. Initially, one might conclude these modern formulations are more risky than stuff of decades ago.
Hmm... - are the warnings really pertinent to us users - or to the lawyers at the manufacturers, who dream of the most moronic (mis)user imaginable?
Anyway, would really like to know of any real world experience with any of these products
crazydrummerdude
05-29-2008, 03:49 PM
I have yet to use anything on my street bikes.
I've used Slime in few of my dirtbike tires.
Almost all of my commercial mowers and trailer tires are full of Slime. :laugh
shire2000
05-29-2008, 07:38 PM
I have used it in tubeless car tires with good results. I don't know if I would trust it in a tube tire. Sometimes when you get a flat on a tube tire, the puncture causes some debris and/or fine metal shards to float around between the tube and the tire, causing abrasion and ultimately another flat.
I always have a patch kit with my bike and have used it on several occasions on the side of the road. I trust a patch on a tube a bit more, but only till I can get to where I can purchase a replacement tube.
Yet another reason to keep the stock centre stand on the bike so I can get it up high enough to pull a wheel. Those ride off stands just don't let you do that.
:ca
Don't try any of these in a TPM system tire, the goop won't get past the sensor on most.
jforgo
05-30-2008, 12:38 PM
i get what you mean about debris getting in.i am wondering about using something in advance, as a preventative. If is succeeds, then there is no flat, thus no debris to begin with
BuddingGeezer
05-30-2008, 12:54 PM
I had a rear tire flat on my K100LT. 600 miles from home, 400 miles to my next destination. I plugged the tire and about 50 miles later I bought 'Green Slime' and put in 8oz. I finished the trip 2200 miles on the plug. I now have around 5000 miles on the tire and plan on wearing it out with the GS in the tire. No vibration at 100+ mph. I have had to add air to that tire only once since the repair.
Some of the tire sealants will corrode aluminum wheels. I called a buddy that owns a tire shop. He told me he had never seen any aluminum wheel corrosion problems with Green Slime, but had with some other brands.
There is a product called "Ride Flat" that is a preventative.
Ralph Sims
535is
05-30-2008, 04:23 PM
Don't try any of these in a TPM system tire, the goop won't get past the sensor on most.
And the last time you saw an Airhead with TPM was ... ? :dunno
I had a small tack puncture in my front tube last year. On the advice of the guys at my local shop (who race championship motocross, among other things), I put in a slug of Slime before yanking it apart to replace the tube. It sealed it almost instantly and it has been holding air just fine ever since. I put it into the rear, too. :thumb It is intended to be used as a preventative as well as a sealant after the fact.
I was initially worried about balance, but I can feel nothing out of the ordinary, so I am sold, at least as long as I'm running tubes. ;)
AnnapolisAirhead
06-02-2008, 07:51 AM
I recently took my rims and new Metzlers to a local bike shop to mount them. Since I bought the bike used, I had no idea what was inside, but the tires were at least 8 years old (bike laid up for that long).
Anyway, they were both full of green slime and the shop asked me to let them know in advance next time, presumably its caustic stuff that the tech needs to know in advance; or so they can brace the customer for an hour or so of labor to wirebrush the stuff off the rim in order to get a good seal. Had I known, I probably would have removed the old tires and cleaned up the wheels myself.
The PO did a ton of miles on 3 BMW bikes, so my guess is that he used it as a preventive measure.
JKERSH1
06-02-2008, 12:52 PM
Note that liquid balancers may void your tire warranty.
From Metzeler 's info: "Accordingly, Metzeler will not extend any warranty consideration for tires which have been injected with any type of liquid balancer or liquid balance/sealers."
535is
06-02-2008, 02:39 PM
Note that liquid balancers may void your tire warranty.
From Metzeler 's info: "Accordingly, Metzeler will not extend any warranty consideration for tires which have been injected with any type of liquid balancer or liquid balance/sealers."
FWIW, with a tube type tire, there's no way they would know. I would certainly not want them to inspect a dirty tire, so I would present it carefully washed (It is pure coincidence that Slime is water-soluble :p ).
jforgo
06-03-2008, 06:21 PM
My front on my R65 is getting down there - the 90/90x18 with the SWB seems like worst case for vibration.
Soon I think that bike should be my own test bed.
re: Annapolis airhead - were the 8yo tires flat?
kheerema
06-04-2008, 04:57 PM
I drove 550 miles to Big Bend Nat'l Park in Texas on my r90/6 earlier this spring. If anyone knows west texas, it is really really really sparsely populated, and the closer you get to the park the less and less civilization you see. The park is in the desert right on the border of US/Mexico.
I got a flat after finding our campground. It had to happen close to the campground, driving in the park. Even though I had a flat repair kit, I know how hard it can be to deal with the bead of some tires. I went to the campground store, and they had "Fix a Flat" for 12 bucks a tube (talk about mark up). I bought it, figured it might work, what the heck. I used the whole tube, and then added some more air. It seemed to hold air over the next day, so I didn't bother with getting the tube out for repair. It held fine 550 miles back to Austin, TX. The next day after returning, the tire was totally flat!!
In my opinion, a proper tube repair is better then using any kind of gunk filler or fix a flat, but it might be something that could help you get to that next exit 10-20+ miles down the road if you need to rather then working on your bike on the side of the road in "middle of nowhere" country in 100 degree temps. I bought another $12 can before leaving Big Bend just in case, its still in my side bag for this purpose. This was my only experience with a product like this, I'm sure others may have better/worse or will say to never use it, I don't think I'd want this as a long term fix, I'd pull the tube as you have no clue what the stuff is actually sealing, the puncture, or is air still leaking past the tube and you're just sealing the tire and the bead? I did notice some of the gunk foam getting by the bead when I used it, this was telling me something was not perfect, nonetheless, it held for 3 days and 550 miles.
"Yet another reason to keep the stock centre stand on the bike so I can get it up high enough to pull a wheel. Those ride off stands just don't let you do that." I discovered the truth of this statement as well, what a pain, I have the ride off stand and you basically have to prop up the exhaust if you have the rear off because it won't balance, and you have to remove the fender to clear the wheel. what a PITA!!!
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