View Full Version : Multiple Wives?
RJM2096
04-08-2008, 09:06 AM
Are these guys in Texas crazy? I can barely handle the one wife I have. :banghead
Do you think Man was made for multiple Wifes (at one time)?
mrich12000
04-08-2008, 09:09 AM
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Bob_M
04-08-2008, 09:18 AM
If you are interested in this subject, John Krakauer's Under the Banner Of Heaven explores the history and current context of the Latter Day Saints, including the fanatic polygamus sub sects. The appendix of the book publishes a damning review from the press director of the LDS, and Krakaur's rebuttal.
Krakaur is a very readable author who also wrote Into Thin Air about a disasterous Everest ascent and Into The Wild about the young man who ventured off into the wilderness in a soul quest and died.
Yes, and they prosecuted their fearless leader for contributing to rape in UT and he was convicted; now he is on trial in AZ for similar acts here.
rmarkr
04-08-2008, 10:21 AM
Religious fanaticism is evil
lkchris
04-08-2008, 10:33 AM
You're crazy if you think you're "handling" yours.
RJM2096
04-08-2008, 11:07 AM
You're crazy if you think you're "handling" yours.
That is true, I should have said "I can't even handle mine!"
darcym
04-08-2008, 02:41 PM
It sounds crazy but there is a certain amount of enabling going on. The women are raised to be less independent, more mindful and more subservient in those kinds of fanatical cults. The only thing more crazy is the number of kids they're pumping out. A constant stream yet they seem to manage all crammed into a single house. The women are constantly birthing, bathing, feeding, cleaning ... I doubt they have time to complain or make "honey do" lists for their husband. The second wife is probably a welcome relief when she comes along, giving the first wife a breather. There is no wasting time on the Internet when daddy is gone. Or shopping for shoes and make-up. They do what they're told because that's all they know.
The wives are also not riding motorcycles.
Sounds more like forced servitude than a fair and equitable marriage. :dunno
Bob_M
04-08-2008, 02:56 PM
The women are constantly birthing, bathing, feeding, cleaning ... I. :dunno
Clearly that is not all they are doing. :whistle
The Jeffs cult/sect indoctrinates (brainwashes?) girls at a very young age to trust that the salvation of their souls is dependent on their serving the men who lord over them. They are kept from TV and any influences where they might learn societal norms. Social pressures are very strong to influence cult members to conform.
IMHO religious freedom should not enable pedophilia and the state was right to intervene when they got the report of abuse from the 16 year old girl.
Bob_M
04-08-2008, 04:24 PM
I consider a stack of rusting CB360s an eyesore. A sofa in a neighbor’s front yard is an eyesore. A cult of incestuous pedophiles breeding like rabbits to keep a fresh supply of victims in stock while shielding themselves with a cloak of religious freedom is a crime that warrants intervention.
Sure send in a posse, send in Chuck Norris Texas Ranger.
Rpbump
04-08-2008, 06:30 PM
Been married 41 years, cannot imagine have double or more honey do's and job jars.;)
tourunigo
04-08-2008, 06:47 PM
... it's not the obvious that we have to expend all of our energies on. Groups of abusers make CNN.... but your neighbor goes on and on. But, hey, he's a helluva a guy eh? -Bob
AKBeemer
04-08-2008, 07:24 PM
Some behaviors provide their own punishments. Chief among them are sobriety, chastity and polygamy.
gambrinus
04-09-2008, 08:30 PM
Some behaviors provide their own punishments. Chief among them are sobriety, chastity and polygamy.
That is a quote worthy of being carved on a monument.
Rw
Montana
04-10-2008, 03:02 PM
... it's not the obvious that we have to expend all of our energies on. Groups of abusers make CNN.... but your neighbor goes on and on. But, hey, he's a helluva a guy eh? -BobExcept, our neighbors are polygamists, too. You have no idea how hard it is to deal with these people in the "real" world when they are so obviously not "of" the real world. They make Mitt Romney look like Abby Hoffman.
I went to a wedding reception for a co-worker, he's one of these folks, this was his first wife. They met while living in an apartment building near the university. His family gave them a great wedding gift: a pair of draft horses. Need to start those kids off right. Don't know where they can keep those horses, the university area has limited parking space.
SIBUD
04-10-2008, 04:56 PM
I think it is a bigger crime for the State to round up all those people. Butt that is sounding political. I could only imagine if their leader rode a BMW with an MOA sticker on it. " Spare the child and spoil the beemer." :whistle
I think it is time to use the tithing for Gerry Spence (http://www.gerryspence.com).
Sorry, you are wrong on this one. The state has a legal and vested interest, long held by previous court decisions, that the well being of children is a governmental issue. And for good reason. They are not able to protect themselves.
I applaud those who faced this head on and took action.
thompsonr
04-10-2008, 05:07 PM
I wanted to be a polygamist ..... But my wife wont let me..
dancogan
04-10-2008, 05:40 PM
I wanted to be a polygamist ..... But my wife wont let me..
Isn't that spousal abuse? :laugh
The_Veg
04-10-2008, 06:44 PM
What I always wondered about these sects is how they deal with the MEN, rather than the women. They have guys with several wives, while the male/female ratio in the general populace is about even. If this sort of ratio transfers to these sects, then what is the status of different men, and if some have multiple wives then some therefore must not have any, and what do the leaders say about this? Or do a lot more women join these sects than men?
dmaust01
04-10-2008, 07:04 PM
What I always wondered about these sects is how they deal with the MEN, rather than the women. They have guys with several wives, while the male/female ratio in the general populace is about even. If this sort of ratio transfers to these sects, then what is the status of different men, and if some have multiple wives then some therefore must not have any, and what do the leaders say about this? Or do a lot more women join these sects than men?
Some of the polygamist groups chase young men out of the community at a young age without a means to support themselves. It is tragic for both the young women and the young men.
535is
04-11-2008, 05:13 PM
Are they sects or sex ?
Nothing succeeds like sects sex. Say that three times fast. :whistle
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