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Noble
03-17-2008, 06:40 PM
I just learned that the specialized silicone grease that is used in the Steering Damper unit (Fluidbloc) has discontinued by BMW.
Is there a workable substitute for the OEM grease?
If not, any suggestions to an alternative?
Thanks, Noble
mrich12000
03-18-2008, 09:50 AM
Don't know Paul G. or mr.D. may know what to use,any takers?:scratch :dunno
deilenberger
03-18-2008, 06:06 PM
Don't know Paul G. or mr.D. may know what to use,any takers?:scratch :dunnoNo facts - but I'd be looking for a thick silicone grease.. some of the Dow Corning vacuum greases are quite thick. It it's too thick the effect will be like too tight steering head bearings (tend to wander and take a "set"..)
mrich12000
03-18-2008, 06:24 PM
Is there a dampner that can be attached to the steering head?:scratch :dunno
GregFeeler
03-18-2008, 07:44 PM
Is there a dampaner that can be attached to the steering head?:scratch :dunno
The fluidblock system is the steering dampener. Why not just use the OEM grease - it's still available :scratch
98lee
03-18-2008, 09:30 PM
Greg:
After checking the fische, it shows NA, as Noble suggested.
I know it was available last year, when I redid my wife"s bike. I need to get a supply now before all the back shelf supplies are gone!
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GregFeeler
03-18-2008, 09:35 PM
Greg:
After checking the fische, it shows NA, as Noble suggested.
I know it was available last year, when I redid my wife"s bike. I need to get a supply now before all the back shelf supplies are gone!
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Really!!?? Thanks for the tip - I'll see if I can scarf some of the last remaining supplies.
Burnszilla
03-19-2008, 12:33 PM
Ted Porter uses Redline synthetic grease.
98lee
03-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I called BMW Motorad Customer Service. 1 800 831-1117
They said that that grease is the ONLY approved and recommended grease for that application. They also confirmed that it was no longer available. They had no suggestion. Thanks BMW!
I called four of the local dealers and also Chicago BMW and was able to locate two tubes.
I also spoke with all of their service departments. I got varying answers from "any medium weight silicone grease will work" to "they will work just as well dry" to "what's a fluidblock".:dunno
San Jose BMW is in the process of trying to find a replacement source (possibly the OEM) from europe.
Obviously, the thinner the viscosity or the greater the lubricity, the less the dampening.
For very heavy dampening try peanut butter (chunky style)?:stick
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BeemerMike
03-19-2008, 03:40 PM
I called BMW Motorad Customer Service. 1 800 831-1117
They said that that grease is the ONLY approved and recommended grease for that application. They also confirmed that it was no longer available. They had no suggestion. Thanks BMW!
Well, for liability reasons, what else are they going to say? But, you're right . . . Thanks BMW. :(
breyfogle
03-20-2008, 08:34 AM
BMW doesn't make grease, they buy it from some manufacturer. IMHO, any grease of similar spec should work just fine.
98lee
03-20-2008, 09:36 AM
BMW doesn't make grease, they buy it from some manufacturer. IMHO, any grease of similar spec should work just fine.
Absolutely true.:thumb
Now, if you could please give us those specs, we could all be happy campers.:dunno
Mil Spec.?, ASTM Spec.?, Viscosity?, Specific Gravity?, Temp Range?, Evaporation?, Penetration Range?,
Drop Point?, NLGI Grade?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?.
I'm not one to rely on the touch, smell, and taste method if I don't have to.:sick
Trial and error could be a very labor intensive way of doing this:
Disassemble, lube with grease A, Assemble, Test Ride, Not enough/too much dampening
Disassemble, lube with grease B, Assemble, Test Ride, Not enough/too much dampening
Repeat
Repeat
Like I said, San Jose BMW is trying to research the original source.
If someone works for Dow Corning and has a tube of the BMW stuff, they could come up with a similar spec. after they checked it out in their lab.
Otherwise you could follow the recommendations of the service departments that I spoke to: "any medium weight silicone grease", "they work just fine dry", "maybe Vasalene", "what's a Fluidblock?".
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