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janschunck
11-20-2007, 02:56 PM
I am 1.87 mtr high and my original windshield for my R1200RT 2007 model is too low. Has anyone of you a good idea for - especially - lowering the noice around my helmet.

kbasa
11-20-2007, 05:07 PM
I'm a big fan of the CalSci shields.

I think they're at www.calsci.com. I've got one on my R12RT and it works great!

Are you part of the BCE? It's nice to have you with us!

sfarson
11-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Also very pleased with the CalSci shield.

dancogan
11-21-2007, 06:34 AM
I'm a big fan of the CalSci shields.

I think they're at www.calsci.com. I've got one on my R12RT and it works great!

Are you part of the BCE? It's nice to have you with us!

Dave, I have a Cee Bailey on my RT. It works very well and substantially reduces wind noise. However, I also lose almost 10% of my gas mileage (it's 1" taller and 3" wider than stock). How is the calsci windshield for wind noise and does it affect gas mileage?

Rob Nye
11-21-2007, 07:36 AM
I'm a big fan of the CalSci shields.

I think they're at www.calsci.com. I've got one on my R12RT and it works great!

Are you part of the BCE? It's nice to have you with us!

On Dave's advice I bought a Calisci shield three days before the Iron Butt Rally.

I loved the screen and I was very happy to have it. With the stock screen I had nose and buffeting which all went away with the Cali Sci.

Greenwald
11-21-2007, 08:22 AM
I have run a Cee Bailey on my R1200RT for two years now - very happy with it for wind deflection, protection from rain, quality of construction and reduced noise.

I hear good things about CalSci but not sure I want a hole in the middle of the shield (i.e. rain, dust, bugs, etc.).

Regardless of which shield you eventually choose, you should consider an upgrade to the struts that support the R1200RT windshield as it travels up and down. The increased torque of a larger surface area translates into greater pressure and could eventually snap these supports - been there, along with many other riders.

There is an excellent aftermarket bracket, solid aluminum and powder black - contact me via PM and I can hook you up with the source.

Good Luck!

dancogan
11-21-2007, 10:14 AM
On Dave's advice I bought a Calisci shield three days before the Iron Butt Rally.

I loved the screen and I was very happy to have it. With the stock screen I had nose and buffeting which all went away with the Cali Sci.

Did you notice any difference in gas mileage?
Sorry to hear about your nose, but glad to hear it's protected by the Cali Sci screen. :stick

kbasa
11-21-2007, 10:40 AM
I get right around 42 to 44mpg on mine, riding it like a complete squid. We get crappy CA gas, which doesn't yield as many miles per gallon as other blends.

I don't worry enough about gas mileage to really have considered it, to be quite honest.

henzilla
11-21-2007, 10:47 AM
saw one of those a few weeks back and was wondering what effect the HOLE had in rain?

janschunck
11-21-2007, 01:03 PM
I'm a big fan of the CalSci shields.

I think they're at www.calsci.com. I've got one on my R12RT and it works great!

Are you part of the BCE? It's nice to have you with us!

Hi and thanks. I am member of the Danish BMW MC club, totalling around 400 members.
I am wondering if the hole in the screen affects the amount of bugs being spread on my visor or if this has no effect?
JanDane

kbasa
11-21-2007, 01:19 PM
Hi and thanks. I am member of the Danish BMW MC club, totalling around 400 members.
I am wondering if the hole in the screen affects the amount of bugs being spread on my visor or if this has no effect?
JanDane

It actually seems to let the air flow straight off the top of the screen, rather than tumbling around at the top. Not much seems to come through it, actually. My visor isn't any dirtier than it was previously, but my riding is much quieter.

I think the Danish club was part of the "dissenting clubs" and you guys are now part of a new umbrella organization, right? This must be pretty exciting.

kbasa
11-21-2007, 01:20 PM
saw one of those a few weeks back and was wondering what effect the HOLE had in rain?

Rob can probably speak to that.

BMWDEAN
11-21-2007, 02:24 PM
http://jeffdean2.home.att.net/cee.htm

sfarson
11-21-2007, 11:00 PM
Did you notice any difference in gas mileage?
Sorry to hear about your nose, but glad to hear it's protected by the Cali Sci screen. :stick

Average 50-52 mpg stock screen, and the same with the CalSci. The small opening in the screen down low lets wind come up the inside of the screen and shoot out the top... I think pushing dirty wind coming over the top up and away. No issues with the opening whatsoever.

Have the "large" CalSci... the medium resembles the stock dimensions. The large is an inch or two wider/taller, and the xlarge 2-3 inches larger.

A small pause with the CalSci... from certain angles there is a lavender tint to the screen, mostly observable from the saddle, not from this view. Still, a fine screen for ~$200...

http://www.farson.com/r1200rt/r1200rtnederland.jpg

janschunck
11-22-2007, 10:34 AM
It actually seems to let the air flow straight off the top of the screen, rather than tumbling around at the top. Not much seems to come through it, actually. My visor isn't any dirtier than it was previously, but my riding is much quieter.

I think the Danish club was part of the "dissenting clubs" and you guys are now part of a new umbrella organization, right? This must be pretty exciting.

Hi - First: Yes the Danish BMW Club the officially recognized BMW owners club and we are member of BME Club Europe (BCE). The club started in 1972 and we are counting around 900 members (not 400 as I wrote yesterday). 900 is a high number for a special club in Denmark. Prices on fuel are high and just to drive we pay 180% in registration fee plus 25% VAT. This leads to a lot of old but well kept bikes in all clubs. Unfortunately, our webpage is in Danish only but if interrested, the address is: www.bmwmcklub.dk
Back to the shield: Thanks to you all - my new found friends - and I will settle for the biggest CalSci.
JanDane

Bob1100RTC
11-22-2007, 01:14 PM
I have the medium calsci shield. The airflow is smoother with it down than the stock shield but its also taller in the down position . I don't notice the big difference everyone talks about as far as noise and buffeting. My wife feels no difference on the back and thinks it was a waste of money. I also liked being able to see over the stock shield in the down position. I have to sit up as tall as I can to see over the calsci and then I can just see over it. All in all a toss-up for me.

Rob Nye
11-26-2007, 10:53 AM
I have the medium calsci shield. The airflow is smoother with it down than the stock shield but its also taller in the down position . I don't notice the big difference everyone talks about as far as noise and buffeting. My wife feels no difference on the back and thinks it was a waste of money. I also liked being able to see over the stock shield in the down position. I have to sit up as tall as I can to see over the calsci and then I can just see over it. All in all a toss-up for me.

Don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you are short. I am 6' and see over the calsci in the down position.

saw one of those a few weeks back and was wondering what effect the HOLE had in rain?

For the hole and rain as the rider I didn't notice any difference or water coming through the hole and shooting up to my face if that is a concern. Apparently for Iron Butt Types there is a concern about the water getting into the fancy stuff we mount but for me it was a non issue, all my electronics worked without a hitch.

I did the first 24hrs of the rally in serious rain with no problems. I do plan on adding a fine mesh screen so bugs don't get sucked though the hole.

kbasa
11-26-2007, 12:04 PM
I did the first 24hrs of the rally in serious rain with no problems. I do plan on adding a fine mesh screen so bugs don't get sucked though the hole.

:ha

It is kind of odd to get dead bugs off the inside of a windshield, isn't it?

gulfcoastbeemer
11-26-2007, 08:16 PM
I have had a ZTechnik VStream windshield on my '07 R1200RT for about 18,000 miles.

This windshield may look a little odd -- being wider at the top -- but, it's very effective and quiet. I still average around 52+ miles per gallon.

I'm a little over 6'2" tall. I find I keep this windshield at a rather low setting -- maybe less than a 1/4 the way up -- to achieve a very comfortable ride.

sfarson
11-26-2007, 11:04 PM
:ha

It is kind of odd to get dead bugs off the inside of a windshield, isn't it?

One can somehow get bugs on the inside of the stock screen as well, and this was even noted in a review once!

TomfromMD
11-27-2007, 11:07 AM
No more bugs on the inside of the shield with the Z-Technik.

njnear
11-27-2007, 08:01 PM
I am 6' tall w/32" inseam (you can do the math). Bought a 2" overstock Cee Bailey. Cost me approx. 5 mpg. Hardly ever have it on the highest setting. If I were to do it over, would go with a 1" overstock. Noise is not an issue anymore!

JREDFORD131730
11-30-2007, 08:09 AM
I am 1.87 mtr high and my original windshield for my R1200RT 2007 model is too low. Has anyone of you a good idea for - especially - lowering the noice around my helmet.

Why not just take a stock windshield and a Dremmel tool and cut out a similar shaped opening to get the CS effect and save the $200?

I could be wrong but id does not appear to be rocket science. That's my $0.02.:banghead

Rob Nye
11-30-2007, 09:59 AM
Why not just take a stock windshield and a Dremmel tool and cut out a similar shaped opening to get the CS effect and save the $200?

I could be wrong but id does not appear to be rocket science. That's my $0.02.:banghead

There is much more to it than the hole.

30300
11-30-2007, 11:48 AM
Stock shield .
School is still out, but it's a little quieter. Need to find out if the bugs still hit the inside or not.

JREDFORD131730
11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Stock shield .
School is still out, but it's a little quieter. Need to find out if the bugs still hit the inside or not.

LOL!! I wish you would elaborate. Was there any thought to the design?

How and what did it effect the most?

Thanks!

30300
11-30-2007, 12:54 PM
First tried a Calsci shield , but did not like the top profile , much preferred the stock shape and its clear optics . The vent did work in terms of no bugs on the inside , wind noise seemed a little less , still a little drumming .

So , why not ? I choose the NACA vent cut-out . It's not perfect as it does not include the inner ramp that is part of the vent design . The top edge of the vent is below line of vision when the shield is in the down position .

Less wind noise , and no drumming .

Picture shows the first hole in the center and a few cuts with the saber saw , held my breath , but no problems .

JREDFORD131730
11-30-2007, 02:20 PM
This is the cut-out shape of the CS opening.