Yikes! What are YOU paying for gas?

[basketcase]

I live in Alabama, and just paid $1.60 a gallon for the 89 grade that I run in my Ranger truck.

Premium -- which I run in the K, is at $1.80.

So now I'm curious about what others are paying in other parts of the country.

[Gnome]

Try this my friend,

Gas Price watch- www.gaspricewatch.com

:idea

[YB in IN]

$1.79 for the cheap stuff up here in Indiana.

[knary]

yep.

$2.04/gallon for premium the other day. I miss the old days of $.77/gallon in Georgia. But in the grand scheme of things, I don't notice it. I'd pay $5/gallon for the grins. :D

[brooksie]

83.8 Cdn cents per litre as of a couple days ago... is there a long weekend coming? Usually that's when the prices jump!

[MCMXCIVRS]

Quit whinning and come to Canada if you want to see high gas prices. Currently premium sells for $0.769 per Litre, which after conversion to US gallons and US dollars equals $2.19 per gallon. And the price is down right now. It was up over $0.90 per Litre a while ago.

I can't wait for spring when I can ride my bike to work again, I can't afford to drive my truck much longer:cry

[Gizmo]

Here in Phoenix I just spent $2.15 per on Premium. The same station had regular at $1.99 per.

[Cliffy777]

1.79 for reg. 1.89 for mid-grade and 1.99 premium in my neck of the woods.

[username]

yeah, but how much are you paying PER MILE?

gas is $1.70-something here. i pulled up last week, a lday was already filling her Ford Expletive with gas. i dismounted, put the bike on the center stand, dorked with my credit card, put the gas in, dorked some more.

she was still filling.

i think i put in 3 gallons, and it cost 5 bucks or so. she says, 'wow that was fast!' and i said, 'i guess. five bucks for 160 miles is pretty good. but i wish i had a big car like yours so i could talk on the phone and zone out while im driving.' and she says, and i swear i am not making this up, 'yeah, it's nice to be able to do that.' :(

[Ironhorsecowboy]

Here in Cleveland Tn. -- premium for the K is $1.76 to $1.82 per/gal and diesel for my truck (when not on the bike is $157.9 per/gal) I can relate with the previous post about the Ford lady still filling up her behemoth. My diesel has about 50 gallon tank. At least it gets 15 mpg.

[BMWRider]

As of this afternoon, $1.99 for premium here in beautiful central Ohio.
I am NOT a happy camper. :brow

[DarrylRi]

Geez, even the Canucks are getting cheaper gas than here in Baghdad by the Bay. $2.33 for premium at my neighborhood Union 76 station....

[DDHR1150RT]

Originally posted by knary
yep.

I miss the old days of $.77/gallon in Georgia. :D

So do I!
Two years back we were actually paying less than $.70 a gallon for the regular stuff and under a buck for premium. Now, Georgia prices have fluctuated by as much as 30 cents a gallon in two weeks or less. I just filled my GMC truck with the cheap stuff at my nearest Kroger gas station and it cost me $1.45 nine with my Kroger card discount (discount of $.03 per gallon). Add 20 cents more for premium and you basically have "current" Georgia prices, give-or-take a nickle or dime here and there depending on location.

Remember the days when gas prices SLOWLY increased by pennies a week or a month? Now, we have $.10 or even $.20 a gallon increases overnight! What happened? Have the Oil companies become that brazen with price increases that they fear not any repercussion for their actions? I think they have.
So, what are American's to do about it then, right? I say screw the Oil companies and ride our gas sipping (ok, maybe not for all) motorcycles everywhere and for anything possible! Which I'm going to start doing again this week now that the snow is melted and I may ride in comfort again (sorry for the weather jab to anyone living in colder regions. I am originally from the Northeast part of Ohio and understand the MONTHS of cold).

Locking my cage keys away until my now thin southern blood panzies out from the cold.

Big Oil needs to fall!

Ride on and ride safely!

[iRene]

Brunswick, ME
Premium $1.82
Mid Grade $1.72
Low Grade $1.62

I remember $0.35 a gallon in 1974....

I feel OLD!

[BradfordBenn]

Just got back from a business trip. The cost for gas was $2.17 per gallon for cheap stuff. The cost of gas from hertz per gallon as a frequent renter... $1.90. I returned the tank empty.

[CustomSarge]

Average price vs cost of living is one thing. What is up with a 10 to 25 cent increase Thursday afternoon & droping back Monday morning. Is this just in the midwest or what?

[kbasa]

$2.30 for premium at the local Chevron. Out on Hwy. 1, the campground at Olema is selling regular for $2.25.

[ScottM]

Originally posted by KBasa
$2.30 for premium at the local Chevron. Out on Hwy. 1, the campground at Olema is selling regular for $2.25.

Don't you just love living here in CA? I filled up for $2.29 Saturday. This reeeaaalllly Sux!:( :(

[kbasa]

Originally posted by ScottM
Don't you just love living here in CA? I filled up for $2.29 Saturday. This reeeaaalllly Sux!:( :(

I dunno. I was in Chicago a couple weeks ago and it was 20F. I'm OK with paying a bit more for gas, given that whole thing.

No doubt about it, though. Gas prices suck.

[BradfordBenn]

Originally posted by CustomSarge
Average price vs cost of living is one thing. What is up with a 10 to 25 cent increase Thursday afternoon & droping back Monday morning. Is this just in the midwest or what?

Try living by Notre Dame. It is a know thing you can almost set your watch/calendar by home games and the prices.

[riderR1150GSAdv]

Down here in Florida $ 1.75 for cheap stuff and $ 1.99 to $ 2.15 for super unleaded in Key West. Just in time to s&^# all the bikers attending Mardi Gras in Key West and Daytona Bikeweek.
Add the usual road construction crap, timed well to coincide with tourist season as to create more traffic jams, (more gas usage) and the oil industry has is made.:cry

[ScottM]

Originally posted by KBasa
I dunno. I was in Chicago a couple weeks ago and it was 20F. I'm OK with paying a bit more for gas, given that whole thing.

No doubt about it, though. Gas prices suck.

Sorry, I think California is being drug over the coals. Granted we have some pretty good weather, but the 'special' blend of gas they force on us is supposedly driving up the price. B.S. I think it's vast conspiracy to drive up their profits at our expense. After all, can we do anthing at all about? NO! Enough said.

[MCMXCIVRS]

Our price at the pump just jumped $0.11 per Litre this morning. Now its 86.5 for premium. :mad

[The_Veg]

I completely believe Username's experience. Welcome to TexSux! Getting creamed by SUV-driving, phone-talking morons is our state sport.

[BradfordBenn]

First time I have broken the $10US mark filling up. Then again it was fumes.

:dunno

[knary]

Originally posted by BradfordBenn
First time I have broken the $10US mark filling up. Then again it was fumes.

:dunno

Just wait until you head west. Some of the itty bitty gas stations in remote locations have gas prices pushing $3/gallon.

I once watched a Ford Expedition fill up at the gas station on the north end of Bridgeport, CA. The total bill was $80. One the plus side, they'll be able to go just as far as a GS Adventure with that much gas.
:eek

[ian408]

Originally posted by ScottM
Sorry, I think California is being drug over the coals. Granted we have some pretty good weather, but the 'special' blend of gas they force on us is supposedly driving up the price. B.S. I think it's vast conspiracy to drive up their profits at our expense. After all, can we do anthing at all about? NO! Enough said.

I thought with the banning of MTBE, the formulation would be
more in line with the rest of the US.

What I don't like is the perception that prices are not based on
what's in the tanks or at the gas factory production line. It's like
the price at the pump is based on what comes out of the ground
today.

Does anyone know how long it takes to get from say Kuwait to
Benicia (NorCal)?

Ian

[mthelmet]

iRene said she felt old when she remembers 1974 gas a $0.35/gal.

I remember gas being at $0.09, then the station in the area started the gas war prices went to $0.05/gal. Dad said fill it up to the guy who came out to pump the gas, an got change from the $2.00 he handed the attendent and he checked the oil, water and wiped the windshield. OH, where did all those guys go.

I would give you the year if I could remember it.

OLd fart, I am.

:dunno :dunno
:clap :clap :clap

[1969 R90/2 US]

One of the advantages of living near DC...

I, as well as your elected representatives, are filling up for about $1.58 for reg. and about $1.74 for the good stuff.

[jgr451]

84 point 6 effing cents per liter,Canadian.AND we produce the sodding stuff!! .Up from 78.6 per liter last week.Tell me why?

Because Iran has slumped back into anti western fundamentalism?

[kbasa]

One of my first jobs was working in a Shell station. Directly across the street was an Arco station.

When the guy across the street raised his prices, the owner of the Shell station would raise his to match. This was, of course, in the mid 70s and gas prices could be volatile.

Anyway, after a while of having the exact same price, the Shell station owner would lower his prices by enough that the Arco guy would have to follow suit.

The wierd thing was that they'd do this even if their cost of fuel hadn't changed!

[lorazepam]

I haven't looked since I got back from LA. It was 2.15 for regular at almost every station, and some were at 2.20 for regular while I was out there. I think state taxes play a part in what you pay at the pump. Someone has to pay for all those extra signs warning you about all the harmful things you have all around you in California. I wasn't aware smoking was dangerous until the big sign in the hotel told me, and I didnt know gasoline was harmful to me till I saw the extra signs in california telling me that. It is pretty out there, all the palm trees next to 500,000 dollar two bedroom bungalows crammed next to each other. How does anyone make enough money to live where it costs so much? Guess that is why a grocery bagger makes 16 bucks an hour, and they don't want Wal mart to come in and pay 7 bucks an hour. You would have to take the bus and live in a cardboard box if you made that kind of money in southern california. It was just too amazing and almost too sad to comprehend.

[widebmw]

Today March 7, 2004 Sunday
Bridgeport California. Regular $2.59, Super $2.69, Premium $2.79
I did not see many motorhomes out today.

[jgr451]

Gas jumped from 76.9 to 84.9 cdn last week,for regular.That is about $3.50 cdn per US gallon.
You do the math,and figure out who is screwing whom?

We actually produce petroleum in Canada!
What a rip.

[knary]

Originally posted by widebmw
Today March 7, 2004 Sunday
Bridgeport California. Regular $2.59, Super $2.69, Premium $2.79
I did not see many motorhomes out today.

That's not bad for Bridgeport.

:eek

how weird is it that complete strangers that live 600 miles apart can talk about a gas station, of all thngs, that's in a whole other place

[Cliffy777]

Do you folks enjoy the weekly fluctuation that we do here in Michigan? You are better off filling up on Tues or Wed because many times they raise the price on Thursday and keep it up there through Monday night.
And like Canada, it is so mysterious that with five different retailers in the little town of Lowell, they all have the same price.

[tessler]

$1.79

(I'm kidding! I thought we were in 2004!)

[klrobins]

Gas jumped from 76.9 to 84.9 cdn last week.

...maybe out west... here in ontario "premium" which is only 91 octane is around $1.06 - $1.10 PER LITRE!!!

:banghead

[grossjohann]

It’s amazing that fuel prices are so high in Canada. Since the dollar is weak, and the price on oil is tied to dollars, I would think you should see lower prices as of late… Unless the bulk of that is in taxes.

[BeemerMike]

1. Reason two gasoline station owners across the street from each other raise or lower their prices in response to what the other does, even if no change in their cost to purchase gasoline? Capitalism 101.

2. Reason gasoline in California generally costs more than in other places in the U.S.? California requires special gasoline blends that cost more to make, and there is a limited number of refineries that have the equipment to make it.

3. Reason gasoline in Canada (and in many other countries) costs more than in U.S.? Generally, most other countries have much higher taxes on gasoline than the combined federal/state taxes on gasoline in the U.S.

At least we ride vehicles that get 40+mpg! :)

Mike
R1100RS
K75S
R90S
916
900 SS

[tourunigo]

Do you folks enjoy the weekly fluctuation that we do here in Michigan? You are better off filling up on Tues or Wed because many times they raise the price on Thursday and keep it up there through Monday night.
And like Canada, it is so mysterious that with five different retailers in the little town of Lowell, they all have the same price.

Corporate Socialism me thinks. side note: Why do you think that the little urban designed electric car (two companies actually)- designed and produced in Canada- cannot even get on the street here because of Transport Canada's ever changing regs. Follow the money on that one also. Both electric car manufacturers are heading to the U.S. where forward thinking still prevails (so it seems) for that sector. Gas price here: reg= $4.00/U.S. Gal. However, if you travel in Europe even our cost is a bargain. -Bob

[GlobalRider]

Last summer, it ran me just over $63 to fill up my R1150 GS Adventure...and the tank wasn't even empty.

So quit your complaining and whining. :stick

[GlobalRider]

It’s amazing that fuel prices are so high in Canada.

And thats one of the reasons why I make sure I'm on near empty when I head stateside to pick up orders that have saved me hundreds of dollars...I might as well make it hundreds of dollars plus a few more in savings. :thumb

[Voni]

$3.04 in Study Butte, Texas.

$3.20 in Big Bend National Park.

Voni
sMiling anyway

[Paul_F]

On my morning walk today, the local station had the regular grade priced at $1.00/litre. That's about $4.00 an American gallon. Travelling in the US this summer was great with your "cheap" gas.

[jdmetzger]

We're running around $2.94/gallon in Toledo. I have to fill up the PD at lunch time, too. :doh

This is for the cheap stuff (that the PD burns) BTW. Also happy to have the R80 dual-plugged and running on the cheap stuff.

[DarrylRi]

On my morning walk today, the local station had the regular grade priced at $1.00/litre. That's about $4.00 an American gallon. Travelling in the US this summer was great with your "cheap" gas.

Around $3.50 for premium here in the Golden State.

[r11rs94]

I live in Alabama, and just paid $1.60 a gallon for the 89 grade that I run in my Ranger truck.

Premium -- which I run in the K, is at $1.80.

So now I'm curious about what others are paying in other parts of the country.

:wow Up here in Rhode Island we pay $2.69 for Regular and $2.99 for High Test.

[adamceckhardt]

I have no clue what gas costs here in Bozeman! I never look- its one less thing to get irritated over! My company vehicle is usually a Civic, which politely sips fuel for all 5 minutes of my commute- and my GS is even better.

[kbasa]

$3.50 or so for premium.

[DarrylRi]

$3.50 or so for premium.

So, KBasa, you voted that you don't read the whole thread before posting, right?

:ha

[BeemerMike]

This morning . . .

$2.89 for BMW fuel (premium)

$2.69 for Jeep fuel (regular)

[kewlmoose]

I paid $3.15 for premium on Tuesday. Cheap stuff for the car is at $2.99.

[AirForce]

I live in Alabama, and just paid $1.60 a gallon for the 89 grade that I run in my Ranger truck.

Premium -- which I run in the K, is at $1.80.

So now I'm curious about what others are paying in other parts of the country.

Isn't it scary to go back to Post #1 and see how far we've come in just a few years???
Here in mid-MO, we're paying $2.79 for 87 and $3.19 for diesel. At 45mpg on the GS and 21 in the Cummins, it is just one more reason I am happy to ride the bike.

??? Has your area gone to the .15 difference between grades, up from the old .10 difference???

[henzilla]

filled my Cummins for $3.20 a gallon and parked it again, figuring it will be $4 by next tankful. Took $27 to fill the RT & R Sunday afternoon.
I'll be riding to work the rest of year !
Is the northern heating oil use also as high and climbing?

[rkasal]

To my knowledge, the highest octane we have readily available in Iowa is 92 and it's right about $3.08 and not much difference in Omaha. I only use premium in my rads and turbo. Yeah, I know, less expensive will work.

Just fyi, I paid $93 USD to fill 'er up in Hungary at and Autobahnstation this summer. That was 40L of benzene and 1L of oil. Full service - apparently no choice at that station just like in Oregon. He did check and fill the water as that, along with the oil, keep leeing from my nifty 60k kilomoter Opel Astra. And air leaked from the tire. Some of the charge was the exchange rate but fuel is more espensive in Europe.

Regards,


Randy Kasal

[bubbagazoo]

91 cents/litre for regular in the Edmonton area. 97 cents for mid-grade and I think $1.02 for premium. Even though the price of crude has gone up well over $90.00/barrel, the price of gasoline in this market has remained the same over the same period of time. It might have something to do with the strengthening Canadian dollar which closed yesterday at $1.05.98 US

[kbasa]

So, KBasa, you voted that you don't read the whole thread before posting, right?

:ha

:ha

You know me well.

[Motor31]

I topped off the Volvo last Saturday at $2.94 and paid $437 for it. Today gas was $2.79 in Austin for regular and up to $3.09 for premium.

[jyambrovich]

Your tank is 148 gallons??? Brother, you can KEEP that thing.

[dancogan]

Cheapest I saw on the way in to work today was $3.159 for regular. Ugh. :rolleyes

[robsryder]

In the heat of the summer I have pinging issue with my R60/6. A few times during the summer (most recent was a few weeks back) I add a couple of gallons of 110 octane "racing gas". This stuff is about $8 per gallon. But, man-O-man, does that R60 run sweetly with the "good stuff".

[Muriel]

Last week cheap stuff was 2.76/gallon; yesterday am 2.93, today 2.99. Arghhhhh! "They" say it's because they might not have enough heating oil this winter . . . but here in the NE we've had probably record-breaking warmth. I didn't even turn my heat on until October 28. The farmers were still selling fresh corn on the cob then.:brow

Muriel

[wmubrown]

I refer to this site before I get gas:

http://www.michigangasprices.com/price_by_county.aspx

That is their national map. I use a different link which shows all my local stations, which can vary by $0.20/gal just a few miles apart!

You can enter your zip code on this map and check your own local stations :)

[Mika]

The official Lilydale gas sign has Regular (87.9 octane 10%ethenol blend) at $3.09 and any size cup of coffee for $0.89.

Does coffee have an octane rating?
:bolt

[RTs4me]

Quit yer whinin' !!!:) :) :)

Over here in the UK, we're paying about £1 Sterling per litre. One US gallon is about 4 litres, so that'll be £4 per US gallon. The current $/£ exchange rate is just over $2 per £1. Making a grand total of about $8 per US gallon:jawdrop

Costs me about £21 ($42) to fill my R1200RT.:banghead

[Motor31]

Your tank is 148 gallons??? Brother, you can KEEP that thing.



My tank is actually 300 gallons. It's pictured in my avatar. It pulls our home and the bike rides on the back of it when we are moving the house.

[YELLOW_S]

About $2.75 for regular

Looking at the gas price finder website, there is a 7-eleven in Kansas city, MO which has gas for
$2.07 (regular)... It was cheaper on the Kansas side, but it went up the last week or so. Its always cheaper on the Missouri side (less taxes). I like living so close to the Missouri border, only 15 minutes away!

[mrich12000]

Quit yer whinin' !!!:) :) :)

Over here in the UK, we're paying about £1 Sterling per litre. One US gallon is about 4 litres, so that'll be £4 per US gallon. The current $/£ exchange rate is just over $2 per £1. Making a grand total of about $8 per US gallon:jawdrop

Costs me about £21 ($42) to fill my R1200RT.:banghead

Here it can cost over 18.50 for 5.5 lit. Shell 91, at 1.10 lit.Oshawa,Ont.:banghead :scratch

:fight The lies the big oil spews out, along with the:brad gready mercatile traders shall I go on.

[Muneio]

About $3.50 a gallon for premium here :cry

[mrich12000]

:dunno :lurk :bolt

[PAULBACH]

Does coffee have an octane rating?
:bolt

Both Army and Navy coffee have octane ratings but in order to protect society and provide security that information is classified. But

Army coffee puts hair on your chest.

Navy coffee takes it off.

[Rod Sheridan]

Regular was $1.039 Canadian this morning........Rod.

[PAULBACH]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/Misc%20Stuff/suv-econ-gas-pumpjpgw300h294.jpg
$3.159 in Ballston Spa for low-test.

[AZ Greg]

$2.959 for premium last night in Cochise County AZ.

[osbornk]

$2.99 for regular this morning in SW Virginia.

[BubbaZanetti]

not sure, sunday was the first day i've put gas in anything in weeks and i didn't notice the price, i was just so elated to be out riding:laugh

[R80RTJohnny]

1.02 per litre in Ottawa this morning (Regular) roughly 3.86 per US gallon.

[bubbagazoo]

1.02 per litre in Ottawa this morning (Regular) roughly 3.86 per US gallon.

96.4/litre for regular in Edmonton today. I bet, however, that you can find a variety of prices at Ottawa gas stations. In the Edmonton area, everybody has the exact same price regardless of oil company affiliation.

[Oznay]

$3.09 a gallon'cross the river in Baudette,Mn. this morning. Here in Ont, I believe it's $1.10 a litre...

[rkasal]

I'm keeping my tanks filled. Today, my fill-up of five gallons on the car was $3.399/gal for 92 octane at BP. It's going to get worse. Much worse. SUV's are gonna be a big albatross around people's necks. Especially if they're upside down on the SUV or worse, took out a second loan on their home to buy an SUV AND they're upside down.

Regards,


Randy Kasal

[henzilla]

Helen used the truck this AM to move some things and pulled into local station while attendant was changing prices...up .10 in one day to $3.39 for diesel. She drove home and was parking it.
Happy Holidays all! It's going to be expensive to go to grandmas house this year isn't it?

[rkasal]

Helen used the truck this AM to move some things and pulled into local station while attendant was changing prices...up .10 in one day to $3.39 for diesel. She drove home and was parking it.
Happy Holidays all! It's going to be expensive to go to grandmas house this year isn't it?

One of the national "news" shows this morning stated that home heating oil (which is used in the N.E.) is supposed to cost to heat the average (whatever average is) home in the N.E. about $1,800 for the next six months. All those poor little old ladies and old people are screwed. It's going to get much worse, and I'm not a pessimist by nature.

I think $60 bills for heat (electric) or AC is bad. Wouldn't be much fun to pay $300 or more a month.

On your diesel, remember when diesel was much less expensive than petrol besides the better mileage?

Regards,


Randy Kasal

[henzilla]

One of the national "news" shows this morning stated that home heating oil (which is used in the N.E.) is supposed to cost to heat the average (whatever average is) home in the N.E. about $1,800 for the next six months. All those poor little old ladies and old people are screwed. It's going to get much worse, and I'm not a pessimist by nature.

I think $60 bills for heat (electric) or AC is bad. Wouldn't be much fun to pay $300 or more a month.

On your diesel, remember when diesel was much less expensive than petrol besides the better mileage?

Regards,


Randy Kasal

When I bought my first diesel, fuel was at least $1 less than regular. I used to chuckle at cheaper price and higher mileage than my gasoline using friends...at least at 22-25 MPG I am not hurting as some, especially since I am on two wheels most of time. Prices used to jump by pennies, now moved up to two digits. And I sold all my EXXON stock:banghead about the time the Shaw was ousted.

[Oznay]

Just got back from town,gas went up a nickel overnight,it's now $3.14 for regular..

[SNC1923]

Bakersfield is $3.20 per gallon for regular, up 40 cents in one month.

[henzilla]

Bakersfield is $3.20 per gallon for regular, up 40 cents in one month.

have a daughter in Redondo Beach, always thought the prices were way higher than anywhere in CA. TX and CA seem to be close at moment, not that that is a bragging thing by any means.

[hlothery]

$3.18 for premium today in San Antonio......although most stations were selling it for $3.21.

[OfficerImpersonator]

Paid $3.20/gal. for six gallons of mid-grade (89 octane) Chevron this morning in Lynnwood, WA, about 15 miles north of Seattle.

[henzilla]

if this keeps up I will start taking Helen's F650 to work...it def gets the best MPG in the garage! I think I calculated about 65 the other day

[jstanco]

:german Oklahomans are paying about 2.89 for 87, 2.99 for 89 and 3.09 for 91 Octane.
That was as of this morning. Our gas prices rise about 10-12 cents a shot and come back down only 1 penny at a time. This also depends on the station that you frequent..

Go figure..:usa :dunno

[YELLOW_S]

I'm paying $3.09 for 92 octane. I've heard, it will be up to $4.00 a gallon by Christmas. But who knows.

[gulfcoastbeemer]

Wednesday, November 7, $3.399 for premium is fairly common from Tampa down to Ft. Myers, Florida.

[OUTBACKUFO]

Up in Mountain towns of Colorado (Carbondale)... it jumped 0.13$ yesterday...

85Oct $3.26-3.29
87Oct $3.43
91Oct $3.53 was the cheaps i saw...



in the late of Asspen

85Oct $3.88 dont want to know what premium

[OUTBACKUFO]

Up in Mountain towns of Colorado (Carbondale)... it jumped 0.13$ yesterday...

85Oct $3.26-3.29
87Oct $3.43
91Oct $3.53 was the cheaps i saw...



in the land of Asspen

85Oct $3.88 dont want to know what premium

[rkasal]

http://www.theksbwchannel.com/news/14536489/detail.html $5 per gallon gas.


www.drudgereport.com also has under the "Hillary stiffs Iowa waitress for tip"

Regards,


Randy Kasal