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screwtop

08-30-2007, 07:49 PM

I've got a little John Deere LT 155 lawn tractor. I wish I had a bigger one (who doesn't?) :blush .

Anyway, now that the grass is actually growing again in this part of the country, I thought I'd do my mid-season maintenance on the tractor. I pulled the deck off, greased the mower deck pulley spindles, sharpened the blades, and then decided I'd change the oil. Much to my chagrin, the oil filter was on too tight (I can usually twist them off with my hand). The last service had been done at the dealer, so at least I had someone to blame. Then, I tried a variety of oil filter wrenches that I've accumulated over the years for the cages to see if they would fit. None of them would. Then I thought, what about that wrench for the GS? :idea The "Hazet 2169" that I paid some ridiculous price for 10 years ago. Well guess what? It fit perfectly! So if you've got a John Deere and an Oil Head filter wrench, you might save yourself the agony of having to drive a screwdriver through an oil filter.

Belquar

09-21-2007, 10:00 PM

Deskunking your thread for you. Great job. Now go cut the grass and be glad you have a yard big enough to need a riding mower.

RebeccaV

09-21-2007, 10:02 PM

Deskunking your thread for you. Great job. Now go cut the grass and be glad you have a yard big enough to need a riding mower.
That was nice of you Belquar!!

Green is my favorite color. :)

Belquar

09-21-2007, 10:07 PM

Just want the guy to feel welcome. :ha Since I have been posting there have been quite a few that have moved on. Gotta keep the forum alive. What would I do at work then?

Newstar

09-22-2007, 05:37 AM

(sorry, I still can't figure out how to insert a picture but here's an attachment.)

Newstar

09-22-2007, 05:38 AM

Oooh, I did it! I did it!!!:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

bmdubyou

09-22-2007, 04:33 PM

Wayyy cool!!! That thing looks like it could actually cut grass! But where are the hand controls?:brow

osbornk

09-22-2007, 08:07 PM

It depends on which engine the John Deere has on it. I have or have had John Deeres with Kohler, Onan and Kawasaki engines on them and my neighbor has one with a Briggs on it. The Kohler and Kawasaki can use the same oil filter as the K-bike and V6 Toyota pickup. The Kawasaki and Briggs takes a different one.

robsryder

09-23-2007, 05:19 PM

The editor of Airmail, B. Jan, had his bike painted in JD colors. It was featured as a color cover a little while back.

An on-line article is here:
http://www.bikernewsonline.com/labels/BMW.htm

freewhell

03-14-2010, 04:10 PM

changing the oil on my 07 lt. cover had one bolt very hard to remove as it was under the center stand bracket. now i can't get it started to replace it. any suggestions?

DarkCloud

03-14-2010, 05:07 PM

Who was the last person to change the oil? If it was a dealership contact them.

Is one of the cap screws threads all buggered up?

Have you tried a different cap screw in the difficult to thread hole?

Do you have access to a set of metric taps?

freewhell

03-14-2010, 06:24 PM

can't tell that the threads are damaged but will retap anyway. dealer did change last time. the center stand makes the one bolt hard to remove.

Ted

03-14-2010, 06:42 PM

At least two things - the accessory power plugs work in both (and the Deere ones are quite a bit cheaper!)

Brown71

03-15-2010, 07:16 AM

Don't Forget they are also both German Companies.

PAULBACH

03-15-2010, 07:42 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g264/PaulBach/ClipArt/31c54de2.jpg

GS?
GT?
R?
F?
Air Head?

Thanks Lyman

Oznay

03-15-2010, 08:22 AM

A friend of mine cobbled this together last year.

shropdog

03-16-2010, 09:21 AM

A friend of mine was in the UP of Michigan last summer on his '85 R80 and encountered an electrical problem. The only remotely close resemblance of a repair shop was a local John Deere dealer....they diagnosed the problem as a bad coil, took one off their shelf (not sure which model tractor), installed it in the R80 and he was on his way with no more problems! :D

DARRYL CAINEY

03-16-2010, 03:48 PM

Comes complete with comfortable headrests!

pmdave

03-16-2010, 09:02 PM

So, it's early spring, it's still nippy, and the wind is howling off the ocean. What's a John Deere man to do? Wear your 'stich, of course.

pmdave

pmdave

03-16-2010, 09:08 PM

And, you can plug in your electric vest, too.

pmdave

bogthebasher

03-16-2010, 10:24 PM

Boy am I glad winter is almost over... IMHO you guys are slipping into the abyss...

:bolt:drink

Ken F

03-16-2010, 11:27 PM

http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3307/878JD.jpg

36654

03-17-2010, 05:56 PM

Don't Forget they are also both German Companies.

Moline, IL is a long way from the fatherland..........

37071

03-18-2010, 09:44 AM

'Nuff said

kantuckid

03-19-2010, 08:32 AM

Moline, IL is a long way from the fatherland..........

Google says Deere's made in Sanaswadi, India which I don't know much about but a long ways from me no doubt. I used to work with people that could talk about their mowers for hours, now a thread and I'm actually reading it? Just goes to show that I need to get back to my jobs...:laugh

IAMBOB

03-19-2010, 09:50 AM

Google says Deere's made in Sanaswadi, India which I don't know much about but a long ways from me no doubt. I used to work with people that could talk about their mowers for hours, now a thread and I'm actually reading it? Just goes to show that I need to get back to my jobs...:laugh

I think it depends on which Deere you buy..

If you look a the Pseudo John Deeres the likes of Home Depot and Lowes sell, they are EXACTLY the same as the Husqy, and the other three brands sitting next to them. i would assume they are all built in the same place, where-ever that maybe.

Now go to a John Deere dealer and look at their models, and you'll see a night and day diffrerence in the build quality and the engineering, and from what I understand is they are ALL built in Moline.

I have the JD2305 with a Yanmar 3 cylinder diesel, same one John Deere Marine has been putting in sail boats for about 40 years. This baby will last a few lifetimes, but alas, I need a bigger one. Luckily the local John Deere dealer is REAL local, within 1/4 mile and during (BMW) Tech Days at the house more than once they've provided replacement parts.

IAMBOB

03-19-2010, 09:59 AM

And, you can plug in your electric vest, too.

pmdave

I bought the Gerbings jacket and gloves last month. There will be a power outlet added the the JD before next winter.

Yes, we are a JD family!!

http://itsbob.smugmug.com/Trucks/Home-and-Tractor/1000454/84765045_VyFeU-M.jpg

http://itsbob.smugmug.com/Trucks/Home-and-Tractor/1000452/84765041_YyNMC-M.jpg

http://itsbob.smugmug.com/Family/Mrch-2009/DSC0060/505919983_EYhsz-M.jpg

jamesdunn

03-19-2010, 05:39 PM

I live in Iowa where tractors are often in evidence more than motorcycles and JD is more visible than any other brand. Tractor collecting and refurbishing is paramount among many. Photo shows some tractors going home after a show. I was broken down by roadside (got it repaired) when I took this photo. I am certain there are a few John Deere's in the entourage!

kantuckid

03-20-2010, 08:18 AM

20" Murray MAN here! Does great on our yard in the woods and sips the gas...:dance

crazydrummerdude

03-20-2010, 10:46 AM

Brown71

03-20-2010, 11:21 AM

Moline, IL is a long way from the fatherland..........

I stand corrected... John Deere, born in Rutland, Vermont

but if you ask a German....

jamesdunn

03-20-2010, 05:40 PM

Moline, IL is a long way from the fatherland..........

Minneapolis-Moline is a defunct brand of tractor still collected and often seen in antique tractor parades.
JD

UncleHowie

03-25-2010, 01:59 PM

Wayyy cool!!! That thing looks like it could actually cut grass! But where are the hand controls?:brow

Foot clutch, jockey shift. No brake lever, because a righteous chopper don't need no front brake!:p

pmdave

03-25-2010, 02:48 PM

I haven't mowed my grass in 9 months.

The only push mower I have is a reel mower (for the fun of it). If you have any sort of a yard, ditch the push mower or ditch the rider mower. Get a decent commercial mower. 36" is good. You'll see why.

36" is kids' play. My 240 has a heavy-duty 3-blade 48" deck and I'm thinking I need at least a 52" deck pulled by a motor with some GRUNT. I like the looks of a V-twin, and I like the idea of 25-30hp. eeeeup. Tool Time! Or, maybe I should use that spare R100 motor, with the cylinders sticking out of the hood on both sides. Trouble is, the mowers have a vertical shaft. Maybe I could adapt a horizontal shaft to a big gearbox with PTOs sticking out to run the belts for final drive, mower deck, etc. Or, how about adapting the gearbox to a shaft drive to the rear end, with a shortened F250 rear axle?

Or, maybe I'll just keep on riding the 240.

pmdave

pmdave

03-25-2010, 02:49 PM

Foot clutch, jockey shift. No brake lever, because a righteous chopper don't need no front brake!:p

Wouldn't that be "we don't need no steenking front brake!"

pmdave

IAMBOB

03-25-2010, 09:32 PM

36654

03-26-2010, 09:13 PM

Minneapolis-Moline is a defunct brand of tractor still collected and often seen in antique tractor parades.
JD

Wrong thread.........word association is somewhere else.

As a former Allis-Chalmers employee, this JD talk is making me queezy:whistle

pmdave

03-26-2010, 10:02 PM

Polarbear

03-27-2010, 05:59 AM

TC 30 New Holland keeps me smiling on my small horse ranch:). My horses eat their share of the grass, so cut it? PM Dave, where's your Happy Face guy, from Aerostitch? That green ride needs one! My little Aerostitch Happy Guy goes everywhere on my GSA. :usa

36654

03-27-2010, 07:13 AM

For the orange tractor people, try: http://www.allischalmers.com/ It appears that AC had a much closer relationship with the germans than JD, and perhaps the same sort of loyalty that BMW owners have seen...:german

pmdave

To the best of my knowledge, the history is somewhat like the following...

The period with Deutz was very short (~5yrs), the exchange rate was favorable for the Germans, but the U.S. equipment market was headed for the toilet, so Deutz eventually sold the trademark (name) to the holding company AGCO in Georgia. Today, Deutz is part of the SAME-Deutz-Fahr group which also makes Lamborghini tractors (Laverda is also an ag. equipment manufacturer).

Prior to the sale of AC Ag. to Deutz, the two companies were teamed for several years and you could buy Deutz badged equipment at some AC dealerships. Prior to the Deutz partnership, AC sold medium sized (50-hp and lower) tractors produced in Romania by Fiat and AC construction equipment was marketed under the name Fiat-Allis. Interestingly, it was rumored that Omar Quaddafi, had a large interest in the construction equipment part of Fiat at that time. Prior to AC marketing the Fiat products, Oliver, then Hesston, sold the same products with their nameplates.

A separate division of AC, Simplicity, produced lawn tractors and garden equipment with Simplicity, AC and Deutz-Allis nameplates. At the start of the AC death spiral, Simplicity was quickly sold-off to a group of investors, since it was the most profitable part of AC in the early 1980's. Today, Simplicity is, I think, part of Briggs & Stratton.

pmdave

03-27-2010, 12:56 PM

Actually, Mr. Happy Puppet has been in hiding since we were thrown out of New Zealand by a tour operator for unacceptable dinnertime conversation.

But it's time to come out. I'm training Mr. Happy Puppet to drive the 240. Pretty soon he will be doing all the mowing.

pmdave

Polarbear

03-30-2010, 07:50 PM

Now, Mr Happy has that down pat already. He's quite the looker on that John Deere:). I knew you had to have this guy in hiding, Dave. I've got to get some more good pictures of mine, so sorry for not showing my dirty Mr.Happy:(. He's a dirt biker:). Happy Trails, RandyGSA1200:usa

crazydrummerdude

03-30-2010, 09:12 PM

To the best of my knowledge, the history is somewhat like the following...

The period with Deutz was very short (~5yrs), the exchange rate was favorable for the Germans, but the U.S. equipment market was headed for the toilet, so Deutz eventually sold the trademark (name) to the holding company AGCO in Georgia. Today, Deutz is part of the SAME-Deutz-Fahr group which also makes Lamborghini tractors (Laverda is also an ag. equipment manufacturer).

Prior to the sale of AC Ag. to Deutz, the two companies were teamed for several years and you could buy Deutz badged equipment at some AC dealerships. Prior to the Deutz partnership, AC sold medium sized (50-hp and lower) tractors produced in Romania by Fiat and AC construction equipment was marketed under the name Fiat-Allis. Interestingly, it was rumored that Omar Quaddafi, had a large interest in the construction equipment part of Fiat at that time. Prior to AC marketing the Fiat products, Oliver, then Hesston, sold the same products with their nameplates.

A separate division of AC, Simplicity, produced lawn tractors and garden equipment with Simplicity, AC and Deutz-Allis nameplates. At the start of the AC death spiral, Simplicity was quickly sold-off to a group of investors, since it was the most profitable part of AC in the early 1980's. Today, Simplicity is, I think, part of Briggs & Stratton.

Wow. I never knew.

..and I have 3 Allis Chalmers WC's at my disposal.

:)