Stumped about no sale on my bike...

[Gravity]

Sigh...been trying to sell my '04 KGT for nearly 6 months now and now bites. It is priced below wholesale and I cannot move it. I was hoping to get $$ to help defray the cost of an expensive divorce (is there any other kind?).

Anyhow, just a rant to say that I guess I bought a special bike and there aren't that many special bike riders out there.

tapping foot,

Gravity

[henzilla]

where all is it listed? MOA site, Craigslist and lastly , your local paper should at least get someone looking. I have bought/sold three bikes on Craigslist and one off the MOA site.

anyways, sorry for your personal predicament...been there...and good luck finding a buyer...they are out there somewhere

[BubbaZanetti]

try IBMWR or ebay as well.

it's a tough time of year and also, a new model makes an old one slightly harder to sell

[Gravity]

craigslist, cycletrader, newsonwheels, local paper, IBMWR, and here. Also on the advrider forums, K-bikes.com and everywhere else I could think of. I even parked it by the road with a sign on it for a few days. Had a few tire kickers (2) but no one pulled the trigger.

[DarkCloud]

Location is probably your problem. You need to get it close to the buyers. Most internet vehicle sales are probably within 2 to 4 hours from the buyers home. Fly and ride home can get pretty expensive when you figure in lost wages, weather, dealers not open on Sunday or Monday if you have to take the bike to a shop.

JON

[gambrinus]

Sigh...been trying to sell my '04 KGT for nearly 6 months now and now bites. It is priced below wholesale and I cannot move it. I was hoping to get $$ to help defray the cost of an expensive divorce (is there any other kind?).

Anyhow, just a rant to say that I guess I bought a special bike and there aren't that many special bike riders out there.

tapping foot,

Gravity

Keep the bike and sell the wife.

Feel free to post any possible Craigslist ads that you come up with.

RW

[mrich12000]

Some may think it's a huricane bike.

[dbOnIce]

Having purchased my '04 RRS in January at which point my awareness of the BMW brand was having driven a 1980s vintage 4 door sedan and having the motorcycle salesman say to me (when I was looking at big Honda cruisers) "Well most of the real well traveled motorcycle riders ride BMW".

Being a natural born techie it was second nature to learn more about the brand and I found myself attracted to the performance and robustness of the powerplant used in the K series, and am mysteriously drawn to the GT. Not that I don't like my RRS which continues to surprise and please me.

I am guilty of a significant number of those 500 some times your add has been viewed and have been working on a way to rationalize owning a third motorcycle. I'm almost to the point of selling my workhorse diesel 4x4 or begging the wife to break into the 401K.

Again, more :blah no money.
I am sure there are more frantic plotters like me out there...May the most desperate man (or woman) win!

[Rasbutan]

Keep the bike and sell the wife.



:thumb :thumb :thumb

[SheRidesABeemer]

First problem is having a fairly new model bike that has already been replaced. While its a new model, the platform is now a generation behind the current offering, causing the value to take a nose dive. You are competing with K12RS in the used market, check out the prices there. People are unlikely to pay a premium for the few extras the GT offers.

If you like the bike, you might reconsider keeping it, its value right now is in riding it. Throw the soon to be ex wife some other bone instead of cash from the bike.
Better yet, toss out the lawyers, they are the ones sucking your wallet dry.

[FredRydr]

Had a few tire kickers (2) but no one pulled the trigger.You are putting a price on the bike higher than your potential buyers think it is worth, which as stated above, includes buyers' cost to take possession.

You either have to market it to increase perceived value, or lower your price.

Fred

[26667]

take Gail's advice. Dude, "Listen to the woman." I know you got burned on one, but Gail's obviously not one of the regular ones; she rides a Beemer. Ya gotta think she's one of those women who knows a lot of stuff men just don't.

[sjbmw]

Expensive divorce? Understood.
Sell my beemer? No f'in way!
I would keep the bike, and state the obvious: "I'll pay you when I get it'


Then I would schedule a road trip as soon as the divorce is final. :dunno





btw, post a pic of the bike would ya? :lurk

[Rasbutan]

btw, post a pic of the bike would ya? :lurk

and a pic of the soon to be ex too!

[Motor31]

If the property settlement has not been finalized how about using the bike as part of what you are ordered to turn over. In other words she gets the bike and you keep other items or $ that allows you to re invest in a bike you really want. Let her have the hassle of selling it, or if she can't offer her a minimal amount and buy it back when she can't get a decent sale.

[BONEY]

There is someone out there who wants your bike at a price you can take. It's just that you're not speaking their language, and they don't know how bad they want it.

I sold an F650 earlier this year. I put up the usual "ho-hum" motorcycle ads on Craigslist, ADVRider and a couple of other forums. They looked like this:

http://www.beachbus.net/f650

I got a few calls and interested people but no one ever gave me much confidence that they actually wanted to buy it. They were mostly "gee that's a bike I'd like to have when I get a job" and stuff like that. It annoyed me a little, so I decided to get proactive. I wrote this ad:

http://www.beachbus.net/f650/ad.htm

I got full asking price. They guy promised to buy it over the phone. I told him I spoke "cash" and he was at my door in an hour with it. I had to force him to take a test ride. I started a list of "back up" buyers since my phone was blowing up from all the calls and turned it off when the buyer came (If I thought he was going to try to talk me down, I would have left it on http://www.beachbus.net/storage/deal.gif)

Write an engaging ad. You'll notice that several other dual sport bikes are named as keywords, but it's not blatent cross marketing. I added most, but not all of the accessories and why they were on the bike/useful. Throw in some interesting pictures of the bike doing it's thing. Most of all, show other people how much they will love the bike, just like you did.

[sjbmw]

There is someone out there who wants your bike at a price you can take. It's just that you're not speaking their language, and they don't know how bad they want it.

I sold an F650 earlier this year. I put up the usual "ho-hum" motorcycle ads on Craigslist, ADVRider and a couple of other forums. They looked like this:

http://www.beachbus.net/f650

I got a few calls and interested people but no one ever gave me much confidence that they actually wanted to buy it. They were mostly "gee that's a bike I'd like to have when I get a job" and stuff like that. It annoyed me a little, so I decided to get proactive. I wrote this ad:

http://www.beachbus.net/f650/ad.htm

I got full asking price. They guy promised to buy it over the phone. I told him I spoke "cash" and he was at my door in an hour with it. I had to force him to take a test ride. I started a list of "back up" buyers since my phone was blowing up from all the calls and turned it off when the buyer came (If I thought he was going to try to talk me down, I would have left it on http://www.beachbus.net/storage/deal.gif)

Write an engaging ad. You'll notice that several other dual sport bikes are named as keywords, but it's not blatent cross marketing. I added most, but not all of the accessories and why they were on the bike/useful. Throw in some interesting pictures of the bike doing it's thing. Most of all, show other people how much they will love the bike, just like you did.

Damn. I want that bike too.

[Gravity]

Some may think it's a huricane bike.

The bike was in Connecticut during the hurrican. Previous owner live there with it. I bought it in '06. Interesting though though...I may need to clarify that in my ad.

Thanks,

Gravity

[Gravity]

First problem is having a fairly new model bike that has already been replaced. While its a new model, the platform is now a generation behind the current offering, causing the value to take a nose dive. You are competing with K12RS in the used market, check out the prices there. People are unlikely to pay a premium for the few extras the GT offers.

If you like the bike, you might reconsider keeping it, its value right now is in riding it. Throw the soon to be ex wife some other bone instead of cash from the bike.
Better yet, toss out the lawyers, they are the ones sucking your wallet dry.

I agree with some of what you said, but it's priced below most '03 and better RS models. As for bones for the STBx, she gets none of this. Cash from the sale would be split between lawyer and other debt.

I think you're right about the model though.

Thanks for your input,

Gravity

[Gravity]

and a pic of the soon to be ex too!

Pic of said bike!

[Gravity]

and a pic of the soon to be ex too!

As per your request. This is about as happy as she gets.

BTW, I have an anniversary edition R1150GSA that I get to keep so this bike is sorta surplus goods. I have recently toyed with the idea of selling the 2006 GSA and keeping the KGT....2006 and the attraction to the anniversary editon might make it an easier sale.

Best,

Gravity

[Rasbutan]

Damn. I want that bike too.


After that description, so do I!!!!!!!

[Rasbutan]

As per your request. This is about as happy as she gets.



What an excellent smile!!!

Good luck!!!

[sjbmw]

Whoa. Hurry, give her the bike.

[PAGoldsby]

and a pic of the soon to be ex too!Maybe you can take over the payments of both of them! ;)

[Gravity]

Maybe you can take over the payments of both of them! ;)

You should know that only the bike is rideable.

Gravity

[PAGoldsby]

You should know that only the bike is rideable.

GravityOoooooooohhh! Burrrrrn!

I have a brace of ex-wives myself. I'm apparently a GREAT boyfriend, but a really horrible husband.

[Cruzin]

I don't know what to tell you about selling the bike, but I feel for anyone going through a divorce. Just don't be nasty and don't try to be too nice. The best thing to do is to try and be fair to yourself and the everyone else involved. Try to put yourself in a third partys place. I've been there. One of the hardest struggles anyone can go through. Best of luck to you! There is a wonderful life awaiting you!!

[Gravity]

I don't know what to tell you about selling the bike, but I feel for anyone going through a divorce. Just don't be nasty and don't try to be too nice. The best thing to do is to try and be fair to yourself and the everyone else involved. Try to put yourself in a third partys place. I've been there. One of the hardest struggles anyone can go through. Best of luck to you! There is a wonderful life awaiting you!!

Thanks Cruzin!

My perspective is that this is a business relationship now. It is worth every penny, I just wish it didn't COST every penny! We'll be chatting for the next 7 years or so since we have two daughters together. The teen lives with me full time and the 10 year old goes back and forth.

Gravity

[Rasbutan]

Maybe you can take over the payments of both of them! ;)

Are you kidding? I can't afford the ones I have now!!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Gravity]

Thinking I may keep this bike and sell my '06 1150 GSA anniversary edition. Had hoped to ride it to Alaska next summer but looks like the KGT needs garage space.

I'll be taking the KGT off consignment. I'm thinking the shop still wants their pound of flesh for keeping it for me for 4 months. Any ideas on how to escape without paying their consignment fee?

Best,

Gravity

[gambrinus]

Report it stolen..

RW

[baldwithglasses]

Gotta remember: it's not what you're sellin' - it's what they're buyin'.

[Motor31]

Ask Boney to write 2 adds for you. One for the bike and one for the ex. See which one sells first. Maybe you'll get to keep the bike!

:stick

[gambrinus]

Keep the bike... The soon-to-be-ex is going to end up with everything else anyway.


RW

[sjbmw]

Ask Boney to write 2 adds for you. One for the bike and one for the ex. See which one sells first. Maybe you'll get to keep the bike!

:stick

Nothing like raising the bar huh?
After the 650 ad we can see the talent, but we may be defying the laws of physics here.



But I think a bike ad would work :lurk

[osbornk]

Report it stolen..

RW


Felonies make my nervous.

[Jamming]

Felonies make my nervous.

Yea, and a cellmate named Cletus.

[gambrinus]

Keep the bike and think evil thoughts about the soon to be ex everytime you go for a ride.


RW

[Seeker]

Have you tryed CycleTrader.Com?
The hard copy comes out every Friday and there is a web site as well.
Its like the cycle version of auto trader.
Ive sold a few bikes that way, You can place an add that will run until it sells.

[antaeas]

I recently had a big Volvo sedan for sale that was also going nowhere. In addition to high gas prices, I was dealing, as are you, with a credit crunch for buyers of moderate means, bad credit scores, etc. One day our landscaper was looking at it and said he'd like to buy it, but he was was short of cash while his new house was being built. Then I had a FLASH of inspiration: I write big checks to this guy, and having credit with him was as good as cash in my pocket. The offer was made and accepted on the spot. I signed over the title for a sum as low as the book would allow, to his benefit for tax purposes, and then we both signed an agreement to barter his services at my car's high book value. Thus far, the deal is working well.

So... is your dealer up for barter? How about your attorney? Anyone to whom you might be writing big checks might be a possible swapper. Hope so.

[Gravity]

I like the barter idea but the only person I'm writing checks to is my attorney. She is too practica and too married to consider it. Nice thought though. I do appreciate it.

It looks like the GSA is sold, although to some dude who claims money is no object and he'll send a cashier's check right away. Who knows.

Thanks again for all the interest, sentiments and jokes.

Gravity

[antaeas]

I like the barter idea but the only person I'm writing checks to is my attorney. She is too practical and too married to consider it. Nice thought though. I do appreciate it.

I've found that attorneys who take barter don't always do so for their own uses, but often know how, when & where to move goods at a profit (e.g., sheriffs' auctions). Fact is, an attorney's hourly rate is always negiotiable.

[Gravity]

I've found that attorneys who take barter don't always do so for their own uses, but often know how, when & where to move goods at a profit (e.g., sheriffs' auctions). Fact is, an attorney's hourly rate is always negiotiable.

Further sending them to the bottom of the popularity list. Take people's goods when they have no cash and sell them for a profit. Nice. Nothing like kicking someone when they are down. I despise them for the most part...well, totally despise them!

Gravity

[dbrick]

I despise them for the most part...well, totally despise them!

Yes, a truly despicable bunch. Bottom-feeders. Scum. Parasites.

Unless, of course, you actually need one.

[dplevy]

I had the same problem selling mine (it was a 2003 GT with 5K miles, lots of accessories). I kept dropping the price by $500 per week. Listed it on IBMWR, Craig's list, etc. Eventually sold it below wholesale - fortunately I'd bought it used, so I didn't take too great a beating - but this was a 2 year old bike, with warranty left and it sold for $10K. I just didn't like the bike and wanted it gone.

These bikes dropped dramatically in value once the new ones came out. Like a rock. Things sell at the right price. Only question is whether you are willing to sell at the price that others are willing to pay. If it has been sitting for 4 months, it is obviously not priced right.

[Gravity]

I had the same problem selling mine (it was a 2003 GT with 5K miles, lots of accessories). I kept dropping the price by $500 per week. Listed it on IBMWR, Craig's list, etc. Eventually sold it below wholesale - fortunately I'd bought it used, so I didn't take too great a beating - but this was a 2 year old bike, with warranty left and it sold for $10K. I just didn't like the bike and wanted it gone.

These bikes dropped dramatically in value once the new ones came out. Like a rock. Things sell at the right price. Only question is whether you are willing to sell at the price that others are willing to pay. If it has been sitting for 4 months, it is obviously not priced right.

I hear ya! However, I'm below wholesale!!

It's defarkeled but I tried to sell it even when it was fully farkled. It's still under warranty too.

Thanks for sharing your experience,

Gravity