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zepper
12-16-2003, 11:38 AM
I think I would like to trailer my R1200C out of the big city (Houston) and enjoy the countryside rides. On the bike the trip out is ok but the trip back often at night and tired could be best done towing the bike behind the Tahoe.The obvious problem is the storing of the trailer all year for the ten times it is desired for use. What have others done? Rented? Borrowed from the Annonymous Book? Please share your thoughts and experiences.
kbasa
12-16-2003, 01:53 PM
What's a trailer?
;)
zepper
12-16-2003, 01:57 PM
A trailer is a two wheeled vehicle that you can load your motorcycle on and get it somewhere while you load your wife and all of her stuff into the truck so you can get her and her stuff to the same place you take the motorcycle.
username
12-16-2003, 03:01 PM
sounds like your priorities are messed up...
youre putting your wife and living in houston ahead of your riding? i think they can revoke your membership for an offense of that nature. yes, it's that serious. ;)
follow my five-step plan and maybe youll get off with a slap on the wrist:
step 1: women LOVE presents and christmas is coming. get your wife a bike and enroll her in the MSF class.
step 2: leave houston. immediately. dont even sell your house or pack up your stuff, just go. youll thank me later. (in step 3.)
step 3: write username a nice email thanking him for the fantastic advice!
step 4: take fun rides with wife, elevate marriage to a new level, etc.
step 5: repeat step 4.
:D
zepper
12-16-2003, 03:20 PM
Sounds like a plan, Username, but not a good one. My wife was the one who encouraged me to get the bike and she is the one who wants to ride all the time. She does not want to drive one herself but prefers to hug me tightly as we buzz along.
I think she would enjoy the rides more if we began the rides in more scenic areas than Houston highways that take one hour of riding to get into nice back roads.
We would like to ride around Austin but I would rather drive the truck there and then ride around rather than taking the tough ride up there on the bike.
jerry
12-16-2003, 04:32 PM
what's a wife? :clap
Or you could do what a buddy just did, buy an enclosed cargo trailer, rig it for motorcycle transport, and it doubles as his garage/storage shed. About 3 grand, but cheap for the long term.
beemerron
12-16-2003, 08:56 PM
I always pictured a trailer as something that you pull behind a motorcycle. You can put a motorcycle on a "trailer" and pull it behind a car?
You guys are crazy. What will they think of next?
BradfordBenn
12-16-2003, 09:00 PM
At BMW of South Bend, they have a "Kendon Stand Up Motorsport Trailer" that literally stands up for storage. About $1,500 IIRC.
The idea of the enclosed cargo trailer is also nice as it can be used for other stuff and provides a storage place for those other items that get in the way of motorcycles ---- lawnmowers, snow blowers ... wait up you are in Texas.
kbasa
12-16-2003, 11:59 PM
zepper, you're just getting all kinds of abuse over here. :bliss
For what it's worth, I think Brad is on to something. I've seen those stand up trailers and they're pretty nice.
Not that I'm a trailer guy under most circumstances....
:)
basketcase
12-17-2003, 09:08 AM
Some of us do sometimes trailer our beemers. :brow And for me, it is the best way to take the bike on a family vacation, or on an extended business trip with free evenings.
In my bunch, I am the only one who awakens early. I need my eight hours of shuteye, but will nonetheless wake up soon after the sun rises. So I am often able to get in an early morning ride before the crowd comes to life. Also, for 13 of the last 25 years, I worked and lived “away from home,” so family vacations usually included a leg through the hometown to see family and friends – among which are numbered several motorcyclists. A trailer quickly became part of the routine travel stuff.
For several reasons, I started with a standard 5' x 8' wood-bottom utility trailer with a drop gate, and gradually tweaked it to make it a multi-purpose motorcycle, family stuff, and yard-trash hauler. Trailer cost new was $495.
First off, I went to a local machine shop and had them fabricate a metal foot to secure the front wheel. The foot bolts up to the trailer frame. At the same time, I drilled the frame at a half dozen strategic points to utilize tie downs. Cost of the foot was $55.
After pulling it a few times, I realized I was getting a lot of wind resistance (and gas mileage loss) because of the gate. Given the design issues, the gate was part of the weight distribution configuration, so culling it for ramps was not the best route. I took it back to the machine shop and had the drop gate cut and hinged at the half-way point. The result was a trailer that pulled easier and with much less wind drag. Cost: $200.
I added bearing buddies, ($30) and found an old Army equipment box at a salvage store for $5. The box was mounted on the trailer tongue for jack, grease gun, and strap stowage. I found a spare rim and tire at a junk yard for $25. (Regarding replacement tires for the trailer, I use the 15" tires off my truck for replacement trailer tires).
Last year, the wood was needing replacement. Naturally, the manufacturer had taken the quick (and cheaper) route and spot welded the plates to hold the wood down. So, I cut the old wood out with a circular saw, and took it back to the machine shop again. This time, I had them cut out the front (top) retaining plate, and I purchased a piece of 2" flat-bar that I drilled and painted myself as a replacement. The machine shop labor and cost of the flat-bar was about $30. The new wood (treated 2x) was around $65.
The end result is not as sporty as some of the motorcycle specific trailers on the market, but the rig meets my multipurpose needs. And the fact is, the K does not know the difference.
Discounting the new wood as a routine maintenance item, I have roughly $840 in the thing after 10 years.
For my purposes, the only down-sides are the weight of the trailer, and the eight foot length. The wood bottom is heavy, but works better as a non-abrasive tire surface, and for hauling family and yard stuff. Regarding the length, all of my BMW's have loaded and hauled with no problem. The K11 is the longest, but has about two inches to spare when the gate is shut. However, when I had a Gold Wing, I found the eight foot length too short, making a 10" trailer desirable. The same issue might some into play if you need to haul a K12.
I first wrote this on online and was going to upload pictures, only to get a “file size too large message,” and then a time out notice. I lost that post into the blackhole of webdom ... :mad This submission was humbly done in WordPerfect before posting.
When I can get the photo size editing thing figured out, I’ll upload pictures. Meanwhile, I’ll email them to anyone who drops me a note.
zepper
12-17-2003, 11:07 AM
I appreciate your many and good responses. I am still surprised trailers are not shared by a group and I am still to hear from anyone who has thought to rent a trailer. It seems most of the time, even with yard work and such, the trailer would sit without being used and depreciating. I have seen the fold up and easy to store trailers and these I have considered. But still, it will sit in the garage for weeks and months without use and then be used only for a weekend or special week trip. I think I will explore renting a trailer although other rider buddies of mine have offered to share in the expense of a trailer. Thanks for all the kind and otherwise clever comments.
kbasa
12-17-2003, 11:15 AM
My brother and I rented a UHaul enclosed trailer back in 89 to go to Daytona from Boston. The trailer cost us about $125 for an entire week back then. It wasn't a motorcycle specific trailer, but it had a wood floor. We installed some brackets so we could attach the tie downs. It worked great.
Honestly, though, I really love riding right out of my driveway. There's nothing better than getting home after a long trip, pulling into your garage and switching the engine off. It really does feel like you've completed something special at that point.
basketcase
12-17-2003, 03:50 PM
Provided I got the Infranview thing right! ;)
basketcase
12-17-2003, 04:05 PM
No tailgate party in the making here ... the old grill was long since hauled off. ;)
The foot is just sitting in place and is not bolted down in the picture, and you have to look closely to see the hinging in the drop gate.
Still figuring out how I did the photo thing ... :confused: but it worked. And yes, after 10 years, it is due for a new paint job.
The_Veg
12-17-2003, 11:15 PM
This may not be much help, but get in touch with The Chain Gang (www.f650.com). There's a guy in their ranks who knows a guy in San Antonio I think who makes a small trailer that can be disassembled and stored in tight places yet is sturdy enough to haul an RT. It's basically just a long tongue that crosses the axle and has a track for the wheels to sit in, a small hinged section of track that serves as a ramp then folds up, and a few tie-down points and a pair of wheels. Light enough that you don't need a huge truck too.
The guy who makes them is a high school shop teacher and all proceeds from trailer sales benefit the school.
helliott
12-18-2003, 07:37 AM
One of my fellow Rolling Thunder chapter members hauls a full dresser Harley on a "Trailer-in-a-Bag." I know nothing, other than that, but, if you're interested, I'll find out for you.
Hall
zepper
12-18-2003, 09:34 AM
Thank you Wordsmyth for all your efforts. That is a great trailer and one I would love to have. I do not have a place to keep a trailer that size and it would mean taking my wife's car out of the garage. I have already moved everything else out for the bike, and she may even go for it if I asked, but I would know I was taking advantage of her. I do take advantage of her but usually the rewards are not parking space for a trailer. Thanks again and great workmanship!
basketcase
12-18-2003, 10:43 AM
Zepper, thanks for the positive comments. I understand fully about the space considerations and not over crowding the carport!
My route on the trailer is certainly not for everyone. Keep in mind that I had a multipurpose need. At the time I bought that one, I was living in a small town with a large, wooded yard, and I had to make an occasional trip to the landfill. Plus, my travel needs were such that I had other opportunties to put it to use.
If I were starting from scratch today I would take a different route. I now have a 10' trailer that I used for a while in my business -- it will eventually be configured much like the earlier one. Truth be told, where I am at the moment I have very little need for a trailer to haul the motorycycle, but I hate to get without one and then not have it if I need it. So I will eventually modify the 10 footer and sell the other.
While I was riding a Wing I met a lot of riders who built trailers from kits obtained at Harbor Freight (http://harborfreight.com/).
They dragged them all over the country with all manner of stuff stowed away in the cargo boxes. The running gear is the prime concern, and everyone I knew had great service out of them. I obtained the 3.5' x 4' kit with eight inch wheels and built a cargo trailer.
Click the link and when you get to the home page, and then use the key word function to search for trailers. You will find several inexpensive models that would be suitable for trailering a motorcycle, and they sell an accessory package specifically for that purpose. If you should go that route, I would suggest the 12" wheels, and I think it is on sale right now.
Good luck.
PS: (added via edit) -- Going back to Kbasa's comment, if you only need one a couple of times a year, renting may be the way to go. No storage issues, no maintenance, insurance, theft, or other matters to sweat.
JULIE
01-04-2004, 10:22 PM
Maybe you could become active in a local club and find someone to work out a deal where you and/or a few people pay for a trailer and storage, kinda like a time-share situation.:idea
R100RS
01-14-2004, 11:27 AM
I like the enclosed trailer/storage shed idea.
I can totally understand your situation having lived in Houston. Luckily for me, they gave me a diploma and I beat feet out of there.
Here's what I have (yes, I have a BMW AND a trailer)...
I have a homemade 4x8 flatbed/tiltbed trailer. The plywood deck is bolted (with eyelets) to a frame that tilts for easy loading. For storage, I lean it against a wall in my garage. I bolt two 2x4's (one across the front, one across the back) that hold the weight when it's against the wall (so that it's stable and so one wheel/hub doesn't take all of the stress). I have a 2x4 attached to the garage ceiling (across 3 rafters) with an eyelet on it. I use a puller to hoist the trailer up. I've only used the trailer a couple of times, so it's not all that inconvenient. I'll be adding removeable sides to it this spring to haul mulch/rocks/etc for home landscaping.
Overall, I only lose about 24" to 30" of the width of my garage, the length of the trailer. I still have room to park 2 cars and the bike and still be able to get anything out (except the trailer) I want without moving something else.
Having two cars (no trucks), I like having the trailer around as a "rescue vehicle."
zepper
01-14-2004, 01:40 PM
Thank you for the great message and ideas. Can you believe I have lots of those degrees and I still stay in Houston instead of moving to Colorado? It is hard for me to believe most of the time. I am looking more and more into closed trailers that are obviously hard to hide in the garage but I very much appreciate your advice.
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