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hondarider
01-24-2007, 04:16 PM
Beware of Loctite®!!!!

A few years back I was the proud owner of a shiny, new, blazing, yellow Honda CBR900RR sport bike…it had a few tenths of a mile on it when it was delivered and I treated that thing like it was made of gold…I broke it in with such care and dedication…I polished it before and after every ride…I was a complete freak about the attention lavished upon this machine…it’s the classic story...a boy and his crotch rocket.

So I rode it for the first summer and never so much as blemished its glorious bodywork. Winter came and I purchased a pair of paddock stands to store it in my garage. I even installed a furnace and a thermostat to keep it warm during those cold New England nights. That winter I completely disassembled the bodywork, scrubbed every inch of the chassis with WD-40 and a toothbrush, and coated the plastics with numerous coats of wax. Then I reinstalled every nut and bolt with Loctite 242, hooked it to a battery tender, and then tucked it in with a soft comforter and a kiss on the cheek.

When spring arrived, the tulips bloomed, a warm wind blew, and it was time for the first ride of the season. I caringly rolled the bike out for the first ride of the year. The sunlight danced across the tank and with the push of a button, the sleeping engine sprung to life in a fast idle. Feeling like some sort of armor-clad super hero, I donned my new Vanson leathers and threw my leg over the seat. But just as my bum came to rest upon the seat, an image registered in my brain...I had noticed something amiss on the tail section…a blemish of some sort. So I climbed off of the bike to investigate and I found a crack emanating from one of the mounting screw holes. OH NO! This cannot be! I’ve taken such care! I was so diligent! But there it was in the glaring light of the hateful morning sun…my day was ruined! As I circled the bike in frustration and anger, I noticed more cracks surrounding many of the mounting points for the fairings and the tail section. CRAP! I must have over tightened the screws when I remounted the plastic. How could I have been so careless? What a fool! Why did this happen to me? WHY?! WHY?! WHY?!

So, being a bit of an OCD freak, I couldn’t possibly ride the bike in this condition…it’s just not right…I can’t focus on the road when all I can think of are these fractures in the surface of my pristine machine...imagine the increase to drag coefficient!

With a tear in my eye, I wearily rolled the bike back into the garage and began to develop my plan for corrective action. I ordered an entire new set of ridiculously expensive OEM plastics from my local Honda dealer and the factory service manual so that I could follow the assembly instructions to the letter. And since I was tearing things apart anyways, I opted for a new Corbin seat and a rear fender eliminator kit from some company in Europe. I can’t remember the exact total now but I believe that it was in excess of $1500. A few weeks later, all of my parts had arrived and I began the painstaking process of replacing all of the plastic pieces. I swapped over brackets, mirrors, gaskets, heat tape, adhesive foam, a lock set for the tail section, windshield, directionals, etc... EVERYTHING! Every piece transferred with delicate care...every bolt and screw installed with a drop of Loctite and the exact torque applied...every panel aligned perfectly...until it was once again PERFECT.

I sat there in my garage and basked in the glory of it...I admired it from every possible viewing angle...I took pictures...I whispered warm things to it...I promised to never put it through such a traumatic experience again. Then I covered it up, turned off the lights, and went inside to pack for a business trip.

I was in Mexico for two weeks and all that I thought about was getting out on the road and honing my squid skills. I took solace in the fact that while I was away, the Spring rains were scouring the roads of the winter’s salt and sand. Surely the twisty two-laners around my home would feel like Laguna Seca by the time I returned. It was June by now and I hadn’t even ridden the bike once yet. I was way overdue for some triple digit stupidity and silly lean angles.

I returned home late on a Friday night and could hardly sleep due to the anticipation. I was like a 9 year old on Christmas Eve. I woke up at about 6:00...the birds were singing...the sun was shining...the grass was green...all was perfect in the universe. My big black Lab and I sprung across the back yard...I took a 5 minute detour to play a little fetch with her and wrestle on the lawn. There was laughter in the air. Surely there had never been a better day in the history of man.
The garage door groaned and creaked as it rose...the harsh rays of the sun pierced the dark shadows and immediately warmed the cool confines of my garage. I strode inside like a returning King and threw back the bike’s covers in triumph. I took it down off the stands and rolled it out in the driveway. Once again, the sun danced across the sparkling yellow body with blinding results. Today was going to be epic!

As I took a victory stroll around the bike to admire my handiwork, I noticed something inconceivable...a small black line emanating from a screw head on the tail piece. Surely it must be a hair or a fiber from the cover. I tired to wipe it away with a finger but it was steadfast...it was a CRACK! In a panic, I began inspecting the body panels up close. The blazing sun and its cursed reflection burned my retinas as I tried to focus on the minutia of the mounting points. One by one, I detected more cracks and spider webs. I began jumping up and down...cursing the heavens...screaming profanities as most of my neighbors labored to sleep. I ran to the house...the big black Lab, assuming that life was still merry, attempted to pounce on me as I ran. I swatted at her and yelled and cursed some more. I stormed upstairs to find my slumbering young wife. I flung open the bedroom door and demanded to know why she had been in the garage while I was away. Why had she knocked over my beautiful yellow motorcycle and then tried to hide her transgression? What was her motivation for such a heinous act? Was she raised by wolves? How could she hate me so? WHY?! WHY?! WHY?!

She sat up in bed, rubbed her eyes, and pointed out that she didn’t even have a key to the garage...nobody other than me had a key...I was way too much of lunatic to let others have access to my stuff. She had even bought her own screwdrivers because she couldn’t get to mine. Remaining calm and resolute in the face of my wild-eyed anger and accusations, she dismissed my charges and lay back down. AAAAAAARGH!!!!

I bounded down the stairs in two hops and stormed back out to the driveway. Once again, the lab pounced, but I pushed her aside and took a swat at her. I was in no mood for frivolity. Today must certainly be the worst day in the history of man. As I stalked around the bike, anger and rage eventually subsided into self-pity and sadness. I investigated the garage but found no possible disturbance that could have caused the damage. I looked for signs of forced entry...maybe a burglar had broke in, ignored all of my expensive tools, and then very delicately applied just enough pressure to the individual body panels of my bike to crack them at the mounting points but NOT blemish them in any other way. Then, said burglar, walked past the rest of my bikes, ignored the keys in the ignitions, exited through the back door, and locked it behind him. When all other possibilities have been eliminated, the remaining possibility, no matter how unlikely, must be the correct one. Isn’t that what they say?

I sat down on the back steps...sulking...the bike mocking me in the angry sunshine 20 feet away...my dog sitting beside me...perplexed by my sudden change of emotion. Eventually, my wife came out to join me with her coffee. As we sat there, I explained to her every step of the replacement process in excruciating detail. Neither of us could conceive of circumstances that would have led to the damage. So I sat...and thought...and sat...and pondered...and sat...and then...S%$&!

I leapt from my perch and sprinted for the garage. I threw open a cabinet and searched the contents. NOTHING! I flung open another and scattered the contents across the counter. Still NOTHING! I opened a third and there I found it...a little red bottle with a white cap...the size of a bottle of nail polish... Loctite® 242 Removable Thread locker. The label was smudged from countless applications but I wiped it in desperation...fearful of what I might find hidden amongst the lines of inane directions and contents. And then...there it was...half-way down the back label...in all capital letters...mocking me...taunting me for my ignorance...


MAY ATTACK SOME THERMOPLASTICS


Crestfallen...head down...feet dragging...I made my way out of the garage and found my wife surveying the damage. I handed her the bottle. She looked at it but didn’t make the connection. I told her to read the label. She obliged me but still failed to see the problem. I showed her the exact line on the label.

“What does that mean?” she inquired.

“It means that I’m an a##hole” I replied

She took my word for it and went off to tend to the flowers.

Later that day, I made yet another list of damaged parts, returned yet again to the dealership, placed yet another excruciating high dollar order for more OEM body parts, and returned home to sulk. Two weeks later, the parts arrived and I swapped them out...again...in disgust. The CBR had started as a technological marvel...a gleaming yellow beacon, signifying man’s dominion over speed and precision and the very laws of physics. Now it was a painful reminder...an ugly, yellow, glaring monument to my lack of attention to detail. I could never enjoy it again.

So, on the first Saturday after reassembly, I rode it to the dealership...paranoid that I would dump it and start the entire nightmare over again...and demanded a motorcycle made completely of metal. No fairings, no sculpted body work, no aerodynamic fluff...just a bike that won’t erode in my garage for no apparent reason while I’m away...I rode home on a new Valkyrie.

And thus ended any possibility of future glory as a Miguel Duhamel poser squid for me.

I thought of this story yesterday...as I reassembled my GS...and installed each bolt with a little blue gob of Loctite:violin

kbasa
01-24-2007, 04:59 PM
I don't whether to laugh or cry for you, man. :ha :cry

Oldhway
01-24-2007, 05:07 PM
I feel your pain. :violin

wezul
01-24-2007, 07:14 PM
Great story. ****ty circumstances.
Whenever I see a thread started by you I open it up with a thought like "what the H E double toothpicks (ok, I cleaned it up, it's a family show), is Ross up to now"!

I wonder if this stuff is based similarly to Krazy Glue which seems to have a similar affect on said materials.

We live and learn or we screw up again.

Peace.

Wez

hondarider
01-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Just wait until I feel comfortable enough to share some REALLY embarassing stories:laugh

RedBeemer
01-24-2007, 08:25 PM
I did not laugh but just sat here at the PC with a VERY big grin as soon as I saw the name Loctite, and in the hands of a non-professional, I knew bad was going to happen.

Be glad you did not use the BLACK Loctite!:)

dlowry
01-24-2007, 08:42 PM
And here I was finally thinking of getting Loctite to have in my kit. Never again will that though cross my mind. Thanks for the heads up! That might have made a mess of the XN85 and that's something I can't get replacement parts for!

Dave...

jshuck
01-24-2007, 09:16 PM
try Gorilla Snot... 3M weatherstripping cement.

GregFeeler
01-24-2007, 11:08 PM
I don't whether to laugh or cry for you, man. :ha :cry

Me either. Don't take this wrong, but I really like your writing style, so maybe if you have the lousy luck to screw something else up you'll tell that story, too?? :hide

wezul
01-24-2007, 11:15 PM
He's either insane or a genius. (That's the whole fringe argument, another thread, perhaps).

Regardless, Ross appears to have a talent untapped.

I am so happy to be part of this forum, so many views and so many subjects, expressed in many cases succinctly.

RandyB
01-24-2007, 11:33 PM
He's either insane or a genius.


It's a fine line. Great read. That is too funny and I needed a laugh.

crazydrummerdude
01-24-2007, 11:52 PM
Just wait until I feel comfortable enough to share some REALLY embarassing stories:laugh

Among my first posts was a story of one of the few occasions I've crapped my pants at school. So, go ahead with the embarassing stories..

hondarider
01-25-2007, 04:53 AM
I did not laugh but just sat here at the PC with a VERY big grin as soon as I saw the name Loctite, and in the hands of a non-professional, I knew bad was going to happen.

Be glad you did not use the BLACK Loctite!:)

What profession imparts the negative impact of Loctite 242 on thermoplastics? I've been a technician, a machinist, process engineer, maintenance manager, engineering manager, and eventually technical director over the years. I've shared this story with countless engineers, mechanics, and other technical professionals since 1998 when it happened. I've posted it on half a dozen forums. I've yet, in hundreds of people, had one person say "oh yes, I knew that." Are you an application engineer for an adhesive manufacturer? The narrative was meant to describe the perils of not reading labels on products carefully. Certainly I did not...and I paid the price.

snoone
01-25-2007, 06:21 AM
Wonderfully written story. Sorry about the harsh lesson:banghead

hondarider
01-25-2007, 07:53 AM
snoone...nice quotes frommy favorite author:thumb

Belquar
01-25-2007, 09:35 AM
Among my first posts was a story of one of the few occasions I've crapped my pants at school. So, go ahead with the embarassing stories..


BTDT

GregFeeler
01-25-2007, 01:13 PM
BTDT

Dudes! TMI! :rofl

Belquar
01-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Dudes! TMI! :rofl

It was TMI back in 10/05 but we are a shameless bunch. :laugh No better medicine than the ability to laugh at yourself.

crazydrummerdude
01-25-2007, 01:48 PM
No better medicine than the ability to laugh at yourself.

Agreed... 1000x over.

RedBeemer
01-25-2007, 07:30 PM
I should have said "non-professional mechanic", my bad. One of my partners in crime of a few years ago use to lay out the pit falls of misuse of various tools of the trade during his tenure as a mechanic for the county.

hondarider
01-25-2007, 07:40 PM
LOL...did he have first hand experience with this issue? Back when it happened, I told the owner of the Honda dealership all about it and he had never heard of such a thing. So he called the Honda rep and ran it past him...also never heard of it. We used 5 different grades of Loctite adhesives in the factory and nobody had ever encountered a problem...I guess because none of our machinery used thermoplastic parts...I suppose it makes sense that you would run into this issue in the automotive world:thumb

Crow18
01-25-2007, 09:04 PM
I had a similar experience last winter with the instrument cluster on my K75.

Like many early K-bikes, the speedometer tends to crap out in the cold and/or wet. Word on the street (at least on IBMWR Street) is that you can take the instrument cluster apart, use some electrical contact cleaner to clean the corrosion off the long metal prongs that plug into the back of the speedo, take some pliers and give the prongs a little twist so that they make better contact, and then put everything back together. Great. I have a spray can of Honda Contact Cleaner in the garage, so I pull the instrument cluster off the bike, take it downstairs, disassemble it, and swab the plugs with the contact cleaner. Thinking there's got to be some corrosion inside the holes that the three plugs go into, I swab some contact cleaner down there, too. That was when the plastic back of my speedometer turned liquid and started sticking to the swab and the plugs and the sleeve of my shirt and...

um...

er...


wuh-oh.

Yeah. There's that warning on the can. I couldn't help but wonder if there was some way I could blame this on being left-handed.

I was able to get most of the melted plastic off and complete the repair, and the speedo actually works much better than before, but I've still got the plastic on the sleeve of that shirt as a little reminder.

mrich12000
01-25-2007, 09:53 PM
[QUOTE=hondarider;180784]Beware of Loctite®!!!!:lurk :drink :drink

Technical Data Sheet
LOCTITE® 242®
July-2005
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
LOCTITE® 242® provides the following product characteristics:
Technology Acrylic
Chemical Type Dimethacrylate ester
Appearance (uncured) Blue liquidLMS
Fluorescence Positive under UV lightLMS
Components One component - requires no mixing
Viscosity Medium, thixotropic
Cure Anaerobic
Secondary Cure Activator
Application Threadlocking
Strength Medium
LOCTITE® 242® is designed for the locking and sealing of
threaded fasteners which require normal disassembly with
standard hand tools. The product cures when confined in the
absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces and
prevents loosening and leakage from shock and vibration.
Particularly suitable for applications on less active substrates
such as stainless steel and plated surfaces, where
disassembly with hand tools is required for servicing. The
thixotropic nature of LOCTITE® 242® reduces the migration of
liquid product after application to the substrate.
Mil-S-46163A
LOCTITE® 242® is tested to the lot requirements of Military
Specification Mil-S-46163A.
ASTM D5363
Each lot of adhesive produced in North America is tested to
the general requirements defined in paragraphs 5.1.1 and
5.1.2 and to the Detail Requirements defined in section 5.2.
TYPICAL PROPERTIES OF UNCURED MATERIAL
Specific Gravity@ 25 °C 1.0
Flash Point - See MSDS
Viscosity, Brookfield - RVF, 25 °C, mPa·s (cP):
Spindle 3, speed 2 rpm, Helipath ≥5,000LMS
Spindle 3, speed 20 rpm, Helipath 800 to 1,600LMS
Viscosity, Brookfield - RVT, 25 °C, mPa·s (cP):
Spindle 3, speed 20 rpm *900 to 1,400LMS
Lubricity, ASTM D5648, K value, ASTM D 5648, %:
M10 black oxide steel bolts and
mild steel nuts
-10 to +10LMS
(In critical applications, it is necessary to determine the K
values independently. Henkel corporation makes no warranty of
specific performance on any individual fastener):
TYPICAL CURING PERFORMANCE
Cure Speed vs. Substrate
The rate of cure will depend on the substrate used. The graph
below shows the breakaway strength developed with time on
M10 steel nuts and bolts compared to different materials and
tested according to ISO 10964.
% of Full Strength on Steel
Cure Time
100
75
50
25
0
1min 5min 10min 30min 1h 3h 6h 24h
Steel
Brass
Zinc dichromate
Stainless steel
Cure Speed vs. Temperature
The rate of cure will depend on the temperature. The graph
below shows the breakaway strength developed with time at
different temperatures on M10 steel nuts and bolts and tested
according to ISO 10964.
% of Full Strength on Steel
Cure Time
100
75
50
25
0
1min 5min 10min 30min 1h 3h 6h 24h
22 °C
4 °C
40 °C
Cure Speed vs. Activator
Where cure speed is unacceptably long, or large gaps are
present, applying activator to the surface will improve cure
speed. The graph below shows breakaway strength developed
with time using Activator 7471™ and 7649™ on M10 zinc
dichromate steel nuts and bolts and tested according to ISO
10964.
TDS LOCTITE® 242®, July-2005
% of Full Strength on Steel
Cure Time
100
75
50
25
0
1min 5min 10min 30min 1h 3h 6h 24h
Activator 7649™
Activator 7471™
No activator
TYPICAL PERFORMANCE OF CURED MATERIAL
Adhesive Properties
After 1 hour @ 22 °C
Breakaway Torque, ISO 10964:
3/8 x 16 steel nuts (grade
2) and bolts (grade 5)
N·m 5.6 to 17LMS
(lb.in.) (50 to 150)
Prevail Torque, ISO 10964:
3/8 x 16 steel nuts (grade
2) and bolts (grade 5)
N·m 1.7 to 6.8LMS
(lb.in.) (15 to 60)
After 24 hours @ 22 °C
Breakaway Torque, ISO 10964:
3/8 x 16 steel nuts (grade
2) and bolts (grade 5)
N·m 7.9 to 17LMS
(lb.in.) (70 to 150)
3/8 x 16 cadmium nuts and bolts N·m 1.1 to 6.8LMS
(lb.in.) (10 to 60)
3/8 x 16 zinc nuts and bolts N·m 2.3 to 6.8LMS
(lb.in.) (20 to 60)
M10 black oxide steel
nuts and bolts
N·m *8 to 19LMS
(lb.in.) (71 to 168)
Prevail Torque, ISO 10964:
3/8 x 16 steel nuts (grade
2) and bolts (grade 5)
N·m 2.8 to 6.8LMS
(lb.in.) (25 to 60)
3/8 x 16 cadmium nuts and bolts N·m 0.5 to 4.5LMS
(lb.in.) (4 to 40)
3/8 x 16 zinc nuts and bolts N·m 1.1 to 4.5LMS
(lb.in.) (10 to 40)
TYPICAL ENVIRONMENTAL RESISTANCE
Cured for 24 hours @ 22 °C
Breakloose Torque, ISO 10964:
M10 steel nuts and bolts
Hot Strength
Tested at temperature
% Strength @ 22 °C
Temperature, °C
100
75
50
25
0
0 100 120 150
Heat Aging
Aged at temperature indicated and tested @ 22 °C
% Initial Strength @ 22 °C
Hours
125
100
75
50
25
0
0 100 500 1000 3000 5000
100 °C
120 °C
150 °C
Chemical/Solvent Resistance
Aged under conditions indicated and tested @ 22 °C.
% of initial strength
Environment °C 100 h 500 h 1000 h
Motor oil (MIL-L-46152) 125 100 100 100
Unleaded gasoline 22 100 100 95
Leaded Gasoline I 22 100 100 100
Brake fluid 22 100 100 100
Ethanol 22 100 100 95
Acetone 22 100 100 85
1,1,1 Trichloroethane 22 100 100 90
Water/glycol 50/50 87 80 75 70
GENERAL INFORMATION
This product is not recommended for use in pure oxygen
and/or oxygen rich systems and should not be selected as
a sealant for chlorine or other strong oxidizing materials.
For safe handling information on this product, consult the
Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS).
Where aqueous washing systems are used to clean the
surfaces before bonding, it is important to check for
compatibility of the washing solution with the adhesive. In
some cases these aqueous washes can affect the cure and
performance of the adhesive.:stick
This product is not normally recommended for use on plastics
(particularly thermoplastic materials where stress cracking of
the plastic could result). Users are recommended to confirm
compatibility of the product with such substrates.
Directions for useFor Assembly
1. For best results, clean all surfaces (external and internal)
with a LOCTITE® cleaning solvent and allow to dry.
2. If the material is an inactive metal or the cure speed is too
slow, spray all threads with Activator 7471™ or
7649™ and allow to dry.
3. Shake the product thoroughly before use.
4. To prevent the product from clogging in the nozzle, do not
allow the tip to touch metal surfaces during application.
5. For Thru Holes, apply several drops of the product onto
the bolt at the nut engagement area.
Henkel Loctite Americas
+860.571.5100
Henkel Loctite Europe
+49.89.9268.0
Henkel Loctite Asia Pacific
+81.45.758.1810
For the most direct access to local sales and technical support visit: www.loctite.com
TDS LOCTITE® 242®, July-2005
6. For Blind Holes, apply several drops of the product down
the internal threads to the bottom of the hole.
7. For Sealing Applications, apply a 360° bead of product
to the leading threads of the male fitting, leaving the first
thread free. Force the material into the threads to
thouroughly fill the voids. For bigger threads and voids,
adjust product amount accordingly and apply a 360° bead
of product on the female threads also.
8. Assemble and tighten as required.
For Disassembly
1. Remove with standard hand tools.
2. In rare instances where hand tools do not work because
of excessive engagement length, apply localized heat to
nut or bolt to approximately 250 °C. Disassemble while
hot.
For Cleanup
1. Cured product can be removed with a combination of
soaking in a Loctite solvent and mechanical abrasion
such as a wire brush.
Loctite Material SpecificationLMS
LMS dated October-16, 1995 (*October 7, 1999). Test reports
for each batch are available for the indicated properties. LMS
test reports include selected QC test parameters considered
appropriate to specifications for customer use. Additionally,
comprehensive controls are in place to assure product quality
and consistency. Special customer specification requirements
may be coordinated through Henkel Quality.
Storage
Store product in the unopened container in a dry location.
Storage information may be indicated on the product container
labeling.
Optimal Storage: 8 °C to 21 °C. Storage below 8 °C or
greater than 28 °C can adversely affect product properties.
Material removed from containers may be contaminated during
use. Do not return product to the original container. Henkel
Corporation cannot assume responsibility for product which
has been contaminated or stored under conditions other than
those previously indicated. If additional information is required,
please contact your local Technical Service Center or
Customer Service Representative.
Conversions
(°C x 1.8) + 32 = °F
kV/mm x 25.4 = V/mil
mm / 25.4 = inches
μm / 25.4 = mil
N x 0.225 = lb
N/mm x 5.71 = lb/in
N/mm² x 145 = psi
MPa x 145 = psi
N·m x 8.851 = lb·in
N·m x 0.738 = lb·ft
N·mm x 0.142 = oz·in
mPa·s = cP
Note
The data contained herein are furnished for information only
and are believed to be reliable. We cannot assume
responsibility for the results obtained by others over whose
methods we have no control. It is the user's responsibility to
determine suitability for the user's purpose of any production
methods mentioned herein and to adopt such precautions as
may be advisable for the protection of property and of persons
against any hazards that may be involved in the handling and
use thereof. In light of the foregoing, Henkel Corporation
specifically disclaims all warranties expressed or implied,
including warranties of merchantability or fitness for a
particular purpose, arising from sale or use of Henkel
Corporation’s products. Henkel Corporation specifically
disclaims any liability for consequential or incidental
damages of any kind, including lost profits. The discussion
herein of various processes or compositions is not to be
interpreted as representation that they are free from
domination of patents owned by others or as a license under
any Henkel Corporation patents that may cover such
processes or compositions. We recommend that each
prospective user test his proposed application before repetitive
use, using this data as a guide. This product may be covered
by one or more United States or foreign patents or patent
applications.
Trademark usage
Except as otherwise noted, all trademarks in this document
are trademarks of Henkel Corporation in the U.S. and
elsewhere. ® denotes a trademark registered in the U.S.
Patent and Trademark Office.
Reference 1.0
Henkel Loctite Americas
+860.571.5100
Henkel Loctite Europe
+49.89.9268.0
Henkel Loctite Asia Pacific
+81.45.758.1810
For the most direct access to local sales and technical support visit: www.loctite.com

mrich12000
01-25-2007, 10:04 PM
Among my first posts was a story of one of the few occasions I've crapped my pants at school. So, go ahead with the embarassing stories..

O The Pain.:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :violin :violin :lurk

Andy VH
04-03-2007, 02:32 PM
Sooooo,.......in doing my typical negligence of my beloved R1100RS (ride it hard, put it away wet and grimy) I am actually doing it a favor?

Thanks for your well written, sad but none the less entertaining story and especially thanks for the "heads up" relative to what most folks would think is a harmless application of a common product.