ADV Rider Question

[Motor31]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger. I know that there are several here who post there so I figured to ask here first.

[PacWestGS]

It's the ADVrider "Salute" don't know who started it. Maybe Kbasa or Fish knows.

Goes along with FYYFF I refrain from further insensitive name calling... :)

[knary]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger. I know that there are several here who post there so I figured to ask here first.

Relatively wealthy middle of the road men with good manners like to wag their middle fingers at each other as a token of youthful brashness, pretending that the single gesture takes them a little bit closer to the edge that's so glaringly missing from their generally bland lives. It's stupid. And, yes, I've been known to do it. :ha

[rangepig]

Adventure riding to me is much more. I hope I did'nt put my foot on my mouth ?
I think you nailed it on the head here. Adventure riding isn't any one thing, it's different things to different people. To someone who only commutes to work or does a Sunday morning breakfast ride, an overnight tour to the next state is an adventure. To someone like Glen Heggstad I imagine now an adventure is riding the moon or Mars :D

Adventure is pushing yourself beyond your personal comfort zone.

[BubbaZanetti]

Relatively wealthy middle of the road men with good manners like to wag their middle fingers at each other as a token of youthful brashness, pretending that the single gesture takes them a little bit closer to the edge that's so glaringly missing from their generally bland lives. It's stupid. And, yes, I've been known to do it. :ha


makes you feel "manly" huh?? :laugh

[knary]

makes you feel "manly" huh?? :laugh

Something like that. The guys who most embrace the salute seem to be those with the least amount of control over their day to day life.

[BubbaZanetti]

Something like that. The guys who most embrace the salute seem to be those with the least amount of control over their day to day life.


you've given this careful consideration

[knary]

you've given this careful consideration

Yes.

Motorcycle geeks seeking the cave bear that's missing from their life annoy me .

:ha

[Rasbutan]

That picture of the foot scares me.

Where's the rest of the body????

[Motor31]

That picture of the foot scares me.

Where's the rest of the body????


Hey hey hey!!! The foot is bad enough, why would you want to see any more?!?!?! :sick :bolt

[OUTBACKUFO]

Something like that. The guys who most embrace the salute seem to be those with the least amount of control over their day to day life.

+1


I only posted the ADV salute once and that was over a Bar Harbor lobster....

i dont care much for it... but is the freedom of the site which allows other good things to come about...

The guys who really do Adventure riding as the style that we have learned from TV and photos from the far edges of the world dont do such... even though Glen Heggstad has done alot of great things for the ADV community in the world riding catagory he does take it all away in a heart beat with his "girls of the world" postings of his vouryerist darkness... takes all the proffessionality out of the whole thing he is about and his riding :greg

I was going to go the WAR (Western Adv Rally) in BV, CO this summer before heading to AK and other northern dirt roads, but decided not to even if there were some of the orignal first year ADVrider people there... there is too much :buds then :sick for my tastes...

IN THE END
It is about the comfort level, the stupidity level, some bacon level, a few 'dead kittens' and a very complex non-linear equation of astro mega-mathimatic

[ian408]

'ufo, Sorry you didn't make BV. It was a lot of fun. I wish you'd have
swung by.

Some drinking and barfing occurs but I've seen that from events organized
here too. I'm pretty sure the 'bird doesn't fly as easily here as there though.

As far as what makes Adventure Riding? I think that depends on the rider.
For some, the adventure is a weekend away with a spouse. For others, it's
a trip around the world. It's really what you make of it. I wouldn't worry
about what others think or do.


Ian

[judjones]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger. I know that there are several here who post there so I figured to ask here first.

It's a postmodern ironic reference to a biker tradition codified for popular consumption during the Ford/Carter/Reagan years by Easyriders.

[GlobalRider]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger.

It comes from their Harley Davidson riding days. No question about it.

[SIBUD]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger. I know that there are several here who post there so I figured to ask here first.

Boys will be boys.


:lurk

[Hodag]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger. I know that there are several here who post there so I figured to ask here first.

just a bunch of modern day stoics

[kbasa]

I was just wondering what the fixation, obsession really, is with the majority of their photos showing an upraised middle finger. I know that there are several here who post there so I figured to ask here first.

It's a pretty long standing tradition over there, actually. They're not alone, though, BARF and LABusas do the same thing.

I think, back in the old days of ADV, it was recognition that the folks in the photo were out doing something while the observers at their computers weren't.

The middle finger is a representation of that situation.






or it could just be a bunch of middle aged guys trying to be rebellious. Personally, I think it's kind of played.

[pilot]

Its just a little better than the alternative of having the finger in their nose. I mean, you have to do something with your hands, might as well do that. Or something.

[alien_hitchhiker]

Could this be the origin of the ADV salute?

[knary]

Its just a little better than the alternative of having the finger in their nose. I mean, you have to do something with your hands, might as well do that. Or something.


Wait... is that... it can't be. But it is.

:wave
Howdy Pilot

Aren't you supposed to be in a jungle somewhere?

[kbasa]

Wait... is that... it can't be. But it is.

:wave
Howdy Pilot

Aren't you supposed to be in a jungle somewhere?

:ha

Hi, Pilot!


http://kbasa.smugmug.com/photos/29416810-M.jpg

[PacWestGS]

Looking at the Easy Rider and other posted pictures of HD rider's flipping the bird. I see that as an expression of rebellion against the machine (Gov). In the ADV world I see as others have said "FYYFF" I'm having fun and you're not.

I wonder though, how well the ADVrider salute would go over say if someone riding a BMW, KTM or other brand bike used it towards those same "I hate the world" HD riders. I bet that would become some kind "FYYAH" and them be :fight ing expressions. Just sayin' is all... :dunno

[PacWestGS]

Maybe the reason the so-called Adventure Riders can salute like that is because they feel they can escape on knobbies. Going somewhere where the polishers will not thread ? :wave

Hehehehe :D