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mandypants
10-18-2006, 01:39 PM
I'm just testing the waters here, but I was wondering if the Country Store carried hoodies (college speak for hooded sweatshirts):

1) If you would buy one
2) What color you would want
3) What you think the design should look like

Personally, I'm a fan of a blue or black hoodie, with a simple MOA logo somewhere on the front. Simple is beautiful.

Is there enough of an interest that we could make this happen?:idea

snoone
10-18-2006, 01:46 PM
Love Hoodies any color

but about that logo! needs some help!

Rasbutan
10-18-2006, 01:47 PM
Count me in.

Black, blue, sage green, dark gray, maybe purple for the pants.

I think you could even do something like BMWMOA across the front instead of a logo.

Its nice to have something to wear in the winter time to remind me of how much I enjoy riding. Or wear it under your riding clothes if you enjoy riding in the winter time, like me.

:clap

godzilla
10-18-2006, 02:05 PM
A hoodie would be cool. I like dark colors, so blue or black would be good. Even dark green... A simple logo works for me.

Montana
10-18-2006, 02:26 PM
I love hoodies and they are good as a riding layer if the hood draw string has a sewn-in path to keep it in front and if the hood doesn't have lots of seams or a big frickin' pointed end, as those are hard to put in the helmet. But most times I just use the hood as a rear neck warmer.

Mika
10-18-2006, 02:26 PM
green and gold naturally but blue ones are the fastest.

BubbaZanetti
10-18-2006, 02:55 PM
hey mandy!

i'm assuming you've heard of the company neghiborhoodies (http://www.neighborhoodies.com/catalog/)? how about something like that that says "WORLD" on the front and then has the MOA logo on the back. it'd be tres hip!

Hodag
10-18-2006, 03:02 PM
I think Hoods on a sweat shirt are a wasteful overusage of natural resources.


I would want one, can it say "mortorcycle" on it?

nhlkats
10-18-2006, 03:07 PM
I agree, text > logo. And hoodies are more than just hooded sweatshirts, they have an oversized hand pouch/pocket in the front!

And Id buy one.

BubbaZanetti
10-18-2006, 03:14 PM
I think Hoods on a sweat shirt are a wasteful overusage of natural resources.


hey mark, why don't you um....uh.......mmm, GO POUND SAND!

Belquar
10-18-2006, 03:15 PM
Almost all my sweatshirts are hoodies. I think a Dark Gray or light gray would be good. Maybe the MOA logo on one sleeve and the roundel on the other (have to get permission from BMW). Web addy on the back with some snappy motorcycling quip like BMW riders ride harder and longer or Beemers are better than Viagra (prolly wouldn't be able to do that one for copyright reasons) and for the front maybe a choice if possible of bikes. (for a special price you could special order with a photo of your choice) Obviously this couldn't be embroidered because that would be way to expensive.

I would definitely buy one. Majority of what I wear in the winter is a hoodie. Great idea. Would be even better if it could get fast tracked so that a mention could go in the next ON and we could have them before this winter is over. Christmas is probably too soon but not impossible. A postcard mailing to the membership announcing a contest for the saying would get the word out about the sweatshirt and the contest. Since on here we are only touching a small percentage.

Great IDEA!!!! :clap

bigdelta
10-18-2006, 03:17 PM
as soon as you allow(for a fee) a business to advertise in a special Flea Market section for only that purpose.No,I don't own a business.We spoke and you handed me off to some advertising guy who sounded like he couldn't be less interested.But I digress-the hooded sweatshirt is a great idea. :heart

Prof. Robert
10-18-2006, 03:35 PM
I'd be interested, too. And, I'll cast my vote for the logo and text.

Robert

cjack
10-18-2006, 03:48 PM
I'm just testing the waters here, but I was wondering if the Country Store carried hoodies (college speak for hooded sweatshirts):

1) If you would buy one
2) What color you would want
3) What you think the design should look like

Personally, I'm a fan of a blue or black hoodie, with a simple MOA logo somewhere on the front. Simple is beautiful.

Is there enough of an interest that we could make this happen?:idea

1. Maybe
2. Black
3. BMWMOA logo

Aren't these hot on your back when you are not in the hood?

Friedle
10-18-2006, 03:56 PM
Do you get a "package" of crack to sell while wearing the hoodie at night hangin on the corner? :D

Most of the people I see wearing hoodies as i am driving down urban Main Street are wearing them because they don't want you to see their face!

How about some wing tip pattern riding boots instead? :D

Friedle

snoone
10-18-2006, 04:25 PM
Do you get a "package" of crack to sell while wearing the hoodie at night hangin on the corner? :D

Most of the people I see wearing hoodies as i am driving down urban Main Street are wearing them because they don't want you to see their face!

How about some wing tip pattern riding boots instead? :D

Friedle

My nineteen year old college student whitebread son is fond of the above style. I'm not sure I get it, but I am sure he would be questioning(laughing at) my nehru style shirt,love beads and elephant bellbottom pants seen in a couple of old sixties pictures I won't dig out.

Mar
10-18-2006, 05:38 PM
I bought a hoodie at the Falling Leaf Rally. Don't know if I need another one but I think it's a good idea. Hoodies are great for cool weather rallies to keep your head, neck and hands warm.

SheRidesABeemer
10-18-2006, 08:51 PM
I would want one, can it say "mortorcycle" on it?

I'd like to own something from MOA that mentioned motorcycles or had a graphic of a motorcycle. Please NO large logo until the logo HAS A Motorcycle on it. :doh

clowry
10-18-2006, 10:27 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me...navy, black, dark green, grey -whatever. And a simple logo, or MMW MOA in big letters like a varsity-type sweater might be cool..

Cheryl

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 01:48 AM
Do you get a "package" of crack to sell while wearing the hoodie at night hangin on the corner? :D

Most of the people I see wearing hoodies as i am driving down urban Main Street are wearing them because they don't want you to see their face!

How about some wing tip pattern riding boots instead? :D

Friedle

we don't see many hooded ones here in South Florida.I'd prefer a normal one w/o the logo but w/BMWMOA.

mandypants
10-19-2006, 09:01 AM
Wow! You guys are great! Thanks for all the feedback.
I'm gathering that few of you are really interested in having the MOA Logo on it, but the letters are ok. Something simple sounds good to most of you.
Dark colored hoodies (black, blue, green, gray, etc).
I'm going to sketch some things out and see what I can come up with.
Keep talking this out :blah ...I'm reading all your comments and taking them into consideration.

The only problem with putting a motorcycle graphic on the hoodie is choosing a bike! K? R? F? Who knows, and they all have to be the same for the sake of the ordering and budget constrictions.

I'm also not sure we can get the BMW Roundel logo on the hoodie. That's sort of sacred ground. :dunno

Mar
10-19-2006, 09:02 AM
Re bigdelta's avatar.... guess I'm going to have to find one wth a Chippendale guy's bouncing crotch. Kinda juvenile, don't you think? I think so. Grow up.

Mar
10-19-2006, 09:05 AM
[COLOR=Indigo]The only problem with putting a motorcycle graphic on the hoodie is choosing a bike! K? R? F? Who knows, and they all have to be the same for the sake of the ordering and budget constrictions.

How about a motoman and the acronymn BMW MOA?

mandypants
10-19-2006, 09:06 AM
Can we use the Motoman? Is he copyrighted?

Mar
10-19-2006, 09:27 AM
Can we use the Motoman? Is he copyrighted?

Dunno, but I bet Michael Cohen could design our own BMW MOA motoman. :)

Belquar
10-19-2006, 09:31 AM
Re bigdelta's avatar.... guess I'm going to have to find one wth a Chippendale guy's bouncing crotch. Kinda juvenile, don't you think? I think so. Grow up.


Someone over at ADV has that avatar.

jdmetzger
10-19-2006, 09:41 AM
How about a motoman and the acronymn BMW MOA?

I like the motoman, or something similar, but the "BMWMOA" will leave people asking me "What's the BMWMOA? Is it the BMW M-series Owners Association? The BMW Motors Owners Association?" I think we should try to get our logo on there, if we can, with the words around it.

If we're going to use a picture of a bike, only an airhead will do... maybe, a naked R80/7? :D

Belquar
10-19-2006, 09:47 AM
Wow! You guys are great! Thanks for all the feedback.
I'm gathering that few of you are really interested in having the MOA Logo on it, but the letters are ok. Something simple sounds good to most of you.
Dark colored hoodies (black, blue, green, gray, etc).
I'm going to sketch some things out and see what I can come up with.
Keep talking this out :blah ...I'm reading all your comments and taking them into consideration.

The only problem with putting a motorcycle graphic on the hoodie is choosing a bike! K? R? F? Who knows, and they all have to be the same for the sake of the ordering and budget constrictions.

I'm also not sure we can get the BMW Roundel logo on the hoodie. That's sort of sacred ground. :dunno

I think it would be worth a call to BMW. It would be free advertisement for them. Seems kinda stupid to restrict the use of something when the use of that something gets your product more visible. Gimme the number and I will call them. Worse thing they can do is say no. Which will annoy me and prompt me to just call all the time until they say yes. :ha You can buy hats and shirts from the dealers. Would we have to cut BMW in for a piece of change? A dollar a sweatshirt. If they are that concerned about the bottom line they are pretty lame. Since even if the entire club bought a sweatshirt they would only get about as much as the cost of one of their cars anyways. But to buy that much advertisement would cost a fortune. I am sure someone could present it in a way to make it appealing for all parties involved.

Another idea for the hoodie....put all the national rally locations on the back like a tour shirt for a band.
Also to cover the costs of the hoodie you could sell a spot on the sleeve or something to a dealer or vendor.
Or...

Since 1972 with an old and new graphic.

Since 1972 the BMW MOA has accumulated X number of miles from it's membership. Then you would have to find @ how many miles the entire club has covered. Obviously it would be an estimate. I am sure one of the Math wizards could come up with a number.

Dunno.

Just some thoughts today.

Brian

snoone
10-19-2006, 10:21 AM
Someone over at ADV has that avatar.

one and the same

wmubrown
10-19-2006, 10:56 AM
I think it would be worth a call to BMW. It would be free advertisement for them. Seems kinda stupid to restrict the use of something when the use of that something gets your product more visible. Gimme the number and I will call them. Worse thing they can do is say no.
You'd be surprised at all the limitations and restrictions BMW places upon the use of it's logo. That's why you don't see more stuff with the BMW logo on it - pens, belt buckles, you know - 'gifties'. I requested their terms a couple years ago and at that time there was a 10,000 unit production minimum. That was just for starts... and enough to count me out. Can't hurt to ask though...

mandypants
10-19-2006, 11:11 AM
Ok, so for sanity's sake, let's assume that we can't use the Roundel. Trust me, I've asked around and I'm not saying it's impossible that we can use it, but it's more likely that Justin Timberlake show up at my door asking for a date.

I've gotten the following image from the Country Store...it's the international decal (https://stl.bmwmoa.org/source/Orders/index.cfm?section=Orders&task=3&CATEGORY=GENMERCH&PRODUCT_TYPE=SALES&SKU=8203&DESCRIPTION=&FindSpec=&CFTOKEN=91536555&continue=1&SEARCH_TYPE=find&StartRow=21&PageNum=5). We could use this on a hoodie, or we can pursue the Motoman idea.

Do you like it? Keep in mind, there are very strict rules on the logo, and it cannot be changed to make the Roundel bigger. It's take it or leave it.

BubbaZanetti
10-19-2006, 11:25 AM
Do you like it? Keep in mind, there are very strict rules on the logo, and it cannot be changed to make the Roundel bigger. It's take it or leave it.


i'd be more than happy for that, i'm showing my involvement in a club, not being a corporate billboard.............

cjack
10-19-2006, 11:31 AM
Ok, so for sanity's sake, let's assume that we can't use the Roundel. Trust me, I've asked around and I'm not saying it's impossible that we can use it, but it's more likely that Justin Timberlake show up at my door asking for a date.

I've gotten the following image from the Country Store...it's the international decal (https://stl.bmwmoa.org/source/Orders/index.cfm?section=Orders&task=3&CATEGORY=GENMERCH&PRODUCT_TYPE=SALES&SKU=8203&DESCRIPTION=&FindSpec=&CFTOKEN=91536555&continue=1&SEARCH_TYPE=find&StartRow=21&PageNum=5). We could use this on a hoodie, or we can pursue the Motoman idea.

Do you like it? Keep in mind, there are very strict rules on the logo, and it cannot be changed to make the Roundel bigger. It's take it or leave it.

You can't use the roundel.
Who's Justin Timberlake?
Can't we just have one of those round BMWMOA things on the shirt? That big square deal seems like too much.
What does that mean about changing the logo and making the Roundel bigger?
There's a Motowoman too.
I'll take a black one in large. Or medium if they run big.
Viki wants one too. Small.
I can have anything I want as long as I get two of them.

john1691
10-19-2006, 11:32 AM
What about something like "Love to ride my BMW" or something to that effect?

john1691
2000 K1200RS

SheRidesABeemer
10-19-2006, 11:33 AM
Someone over at ADV has that avatar.
And that's exactly were it belongs. But bigdelta seems to feel that because women are in the minority on this forum he can offend us all day long. :brow That is how he responded to my request that he remove it. I've forwarded my request for its removal to some of the admins. As if there are not enough web sites that cater to boys who need that type of entertainment.

Sorry for the interuption...

Belquar
10-19-2006, 11:36 AM
What is this Motoman thing. I googled it and got a bunch of stuff on robotics. Is this it?

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/belquar/motoman.jpg

That is pretty cool too.

I sent an email to BMW to find out if they would be willing to grant us permission for this idea. Will post their answer when I get it. Seems kinda wierd that you can go just about anywhere and buy a roundel and stick it to whatever you want but we would get in trouble if we put it on a shirt. Keeping the fingers crossed.

Belquar
10-19-2006, 11:39 AM
And that's exactly were it belongs. But bigdelta seems to feel that because women are in the minority on this forum he can offend us all day long. :brow That is how he responded to my request that he remove it. I've forwarded my request for its removal to some of the admins. As if there are not enough web sites that cater to boys who need that type of entertainment.

Sorry for the interuption...

Maybe he is compensating.

























:hide

Mika
10-19-2006, 12:51 PM
I believe MotomMan is copywrited. This was discussed once before. The international decal is a BMW approved design for club use.

GSTom
10-19-2006, 01:05 PM
And that's exactly were it belongs. But bigdelta seems to feel that because women are in the minority on this forum he can offend us all day long. :brow That is how he responded to my request that he remove it. I've forwarded my request for its removal to some of the admins. As if there are not enough web sites that cater to boys who need that type of entertainment.

Sorry for the interuption...

I heartily agree. The avatar is not appropriate for this forum. BigDelta needs to take this one to JoMamma on ADVRider if he feels the need to represent himself by using the image of a large breasted woman.

Mar
10-19-2006, 01:25 PM
I heartily agree. The avatar is not appropriate for this forum. BigDelta needs to take this one to JoMamma on ADVRider if he feels the need to represent himself by using the image of a large breasted woman.

Hmmm. That's an interesting way to think of his insulting and immature avatar. He needs to represent himself with that image.... is bigdelta big elsewhere, too????? :D

Back to hoodies... the Forever Endeavor Cycles hoodie that I bought at the Falling Leaf Rally is made by Jerzees. It's a pullover style without a zipper. I've washed it and it didn't shrink. It's fairly lightweight so it won't take up a lot of packing space, but it's still pretty warm. I wore it Saturday night at the rally and I was comfy. I also slept in it and it still looked decent the next day.

SheRidesABeemer
10-19-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm actually waiting for MOA Hoodsies. Can we import them to WI?
Do people outside of New England know what Hoodsies (http://www.boston-online.com/glossary/hoodsie.html) are? Yummm :thumb

Newstar
10-19-2006, 01:40 PM
And that's exactly were it belongs. But bigdelta seems to feel that because women are in the minority on this forum he can offend us all day long. :brow That is how he responded to my request that he remove it. I've forwarded my request for its removal to some of the admins. As if there are not enough web sites that cater to boys who need that type of entertainment.

Sorry for the interuption...

Not to add fuel to the fire....well, ok, maybe that is the intent. I'm with Gail on this one.

Tracy
fellow minority MOA member

Newstar
10-19-2006, 01:42 PM
What is this Motoman thing. I googled it and got a bunch of stuff on robotics. Is this it?

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/belquar/motoman.jpg

That is pretty cool too.



Yup, that's it. I'd like to see more Ms. Moto stuff too. That's pretty hard to find.

mandypants
10-19-2006, 01:47 PM
Back to hoodies... the Forever Endeavor Cycles hoodie that I bought at the Falling Leaf Rally is made by Jerzees...

I've also got a few Russell 50/50 cotton hoodies from college that I love. I've had them for 4 years or more and they've held up great! One of them most definitely got slept in at Falling Leaf - else I'd have frozen to death!

I'd be happy with Russell or Jerzees...we'll make sure that we order something of good quality. :thumb

Mika
10-19-2006, 01:56 PM
Big sizes please with long bodies.

BubbaZanetti
10-19-2006, 02:33 PM
Big sizes please with long bodies.


not enough companies market a size medium that actually fits someone 6'5". i always look like i'm borrowing clothes from a shorter friend.

Rasbutan
10-19-2006, 02:51 PM
Can we use the Motoman? Is he copyrighted?

ooh ooh, yeah, one with a motoman and BMWMOA on it. Thats what I want.

:dance

Rasbutan
10-19-2006, 03:01 PM
I believe MotomMan is copywrited. This was discussed once before. The international decal is a BMW approved design for club use.

Oh crap.

If Motoman is copyrighted, then I'm in trouble.

kbasa
10-19-2006, 03:14 PM
Hoodies are cool, but I'd love to have some kind of gear I can actually wear while riding with an MOA logo on it. Think fleece liners, polypro undershirts and that sort of thing.

BMW allows use of the logo if it complies with the Corporate Identity guidelines. Our International symbol complies and would be the best way to go, I think.

Having just finished the International Council of Clubs meeting, I can assure you that BMW takes the use of their logo and name very, very seriously.

I'm not sure what their take on the motoman is, but I'd bet it's copyrighted.

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 03:43 PM
Re bigdelta's avatar.... guess I'm going to have to find one wth a Chippendale guy's bouncing crotch. Kinda juvenile, don't you think? I think so. Grow up.
Juvenile reply,yes.Grow period,Marilyn!

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 03:45 PM
And that's exactly were it belongs. But bigdelta seems to feel that because women are in the minority on this forum he can offend us all day long. :brow That is how he responded to my request that he remove it. I've forwarded my request for its removal to some of the admins. As if there are not enough web sites that cater to boys who need that type of entertainment.

Sorry for the interuption...
it's there for a purpose.

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 03:46 PM
[QUOTE=Belquar]Maybe he is compensating.
?

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 03:48 PM
I heartily agree. The avatar is not appropriate for this forum. BigDelta needs to take this one to JoMamma on ADVRider if he feels the need to represent himself by using the image of a large breasted woman.
on Adv.I think it's an excellent representation of myself,personally.

Rasbutan
10-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Oh for sh*t's sake!!!!

If you guys want to get into a pissing contest, please do it in another thread. We're trying to get hoodies made here and I don't want to see this thread go to the doghouse.


Honestly.....

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 03:58 PM
And that's exactly were it belongs. But bigdelta seems to feel that because women are in the minority on this forum he can offend us all day long. :brow That is how he responded to my request that he remove it. I've forwarded my request for its removal to some of the admins. As if there are not enough web sites that cater to boys who need that type of entertainment.

Sorry for the interuption...

would you like me to print here the names you called me beginning with your 2nd PM?Or the insults?
Not so innocent now.
Apologize for thread hijack.

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Oh for sh*t's sake!!!!

If you guys want to get into a pissing contest, please do it in another thread. We're trying to get hoodies made here and I don't want to see this thread go to the doghouse.


Honestly.....
As I said earlier,I'm in for a black sweatshirt w/BMWMOA.Preferably not hooded.

crazydrummerdude
10-19-2006, 04:35 PM
If the MOA gets hoodies, make sure the string in the hood is like sown towards the front. I have some that the string can move around in the hood and you tighten it up, and all it does is choke you.

Mika
10-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Before this goes to the doghouse, have you considered something like this?

http://images.duluthtrading.com/email/emailT26we46_main.jpg

I like hoodies and all that. My point is something like this could be used under your riding gear this time of year.

Second question: Have you considered a customization option? Could we have our screen name embroidered on the thing, for example.

NOTE:I do buy things from Duluth trading but I do not have any financial interest in Duluth Trading.

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 05:55 PM
Before this goes to the doghouse, have you considered something like this?

http://images.duluthtrading.com/email/emailT26we46_main.jpg

I like hoodies and all that. My point is something like this could be used under your riding gear this time of year.

Second question: Have you considered a customization option? Could we have our screen name embroidered on the thing, for example.

NOTE:I do buy things from Duluth trading but I do not have any financial interest in Duluth Trading.

I'd pay $50.00 for it!

John Brase
10-19-2006, 05:55 PM
Until recently I thought Bigdelta was a male. Imagine my surprise when I saw her new avatar!

It starts to make sense now.

John

bigdelta
10-19-2006, 05:57 PM
Until recently I thought Bigdelta was a male. Imagine my surprise when I saw her new avatar!

It starts to make sense now.

John
to somebody!
John

BradfordBenn
10-19-2006, 06:00 PM
<ahem> Let's stick to the topic at hand, hoodies.

I think the concept is interesting, but I agree with something Manley said in Vermont, let's get gear we can use while we are riding :)

RebeccaV
10-19-2006, 06:01 PM
Mandy, I love hoodies. I usually don't take them anywhere on the bike though because they are too bulky. I buy my hoodies in a men's XL so that I can just sink into them. Heavyweight cotton or 80/20 cotton/poly is my fav.

I've never ordered any clothing from the country store because I'm not crazy about the styles. Some new stuff would be nice. I prefer darker colors.

I agree with you that simple is good when it comes to logos, etc. I think that the MOA logo or the international logo would be nice.

Thanks for asking! :wave

Bob_M
10-19-2006, 06:31 PM
Until recently I thought Bigdelta was a male. Imagine my surprise when I saw her new avatar!

It starts to make sense now.

John

Oh I get it; like the Delta of Venus

:clap

ultracyclist
10-19-2006, 07:27 PM
Yes, I would buy.

Black is always good. Blue, too. Why not have some colors that are close to the colors of bikes? If one orders a hoodie in your bike's color, the $1.00 goes to "xxxxxmotorcycle organization", or a charity of your choice, or KBASA foundation?.

I prefer a zipper version instead of pullover.

The logo...why, of course! But I agree that the logo needs a bit of work.

PLEASE...put a big closable/sealable pocket on the upper arm for cell phone or sunglasses AND a closable pocket in chest center.

How about a fold in feature for the hood storage?

My 0.02.

bigdelta
10-20-2006, 12:55 AM
Yeah that Bigdelta lives a great Catholic lifestyle by example. I feel members should be more welcoming and make him feel accepted here.

Welcome home Bigdelta, thank you for your service "God Bless". Please hang in there. :usa









:hide

! :usa

PAULBACH
10-20-2006, 06:46 AM
Any thought to making this a truly functional motorcycle hoodie?

Make the hood a barclava and then the sweatshirt with the attached barclava make a very versatile piece of gear.
:thumb

jdmetzger
10-20-2006, 06:46 AM
I still think the hoodies are a good idea. I know some people are looking for things that can be worn while riding. There ARE times when I don't ride, so I need something to wear then. I'll probably be down for a month or so when I get the valves done on my airhead, so my only option is to get a hoodie, showing my love of BMW's, OR I can buy another bike. The other bike is a good idea, but a bit more expensive than a hoodie or sweatshirt.

I like the idea of the dark colors; blue, black, green, grey.

Do we have a price?

Rasbutan
10-20-2006, 07:40 AM
You know, while we're on this topic....what about a matching set of sweatpants? Something to wear to bed at a rally. It could have the BMWMOA down one leg like the college ones do.

Rasbutan
10-20-2006, 08:15 AM
Something like this.....

Belquar
10-20-2006, 08:26 AM
Dear Mr. Carty:

Thank you for contacting BMW Motorrad USA. We appreciate your interest in our motorcycles.

In regards to your inquiry, please contact an officer from the BMW MOA. These representatives have contacts within BMW Motorrad USA that can assist them with your inquiry. We hope this information is helpful to you.

If you have any further questions we may assist with, please respond to this e-mail or contact the Customer Relations and Services Department at 1-800-831-1117. Our office hours are Monday through Friday from 9:00 A.M. to 9:00 P.M., Eastern Standard Time.

Regards,
BMW Motorrad USA

Rasbutan
10-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Dear Mr. Carty:

Thank you for contacting BMW Motorrad USA. We appreciate your interest in our motorcycles.

In regards to your inquiry, please contact an officer from the BMW MOA. These representatives have contacts within BMW Motorrad USA that can assist them with your inquiry. We hope this information is helpful to you.

If you have any further questions we may assist with, please respond to this e-mail or contact the Customer Relations and Services Department at 1-800-831-1117. Our office hours are Monday through Friday from 9:00 A.M. to 9:00 P.M., Eastern Standard Time.

Regards,
BMW Motorrad USA

So we still don't know if we can use the motoman. Ah nuts.

cjack
10-20-2006, 09:09 AM
So we still don't know if we can use the motoman. Ah nuts.

I am not connected in any significant way, but I don't think and do not ever remember, BMWNA or AG allowing their logo(s) to be used by anyone other than a licensed BMW dealer.

That's their deal. We got our own deal. I like the BMWMOA logo. The big international with BMW MOTORCYCLE OWNERS OF AMERICA around it. Maybe a big one on the back and a small thing over the heart.

Mika
10-20-2006, 09:38 AM
I like the idea of a big logo on the back. I use cheaters to read and it gets embarassing or sends the wrong message, at times,to be squinting at the writing on an interesting t-**** or hoodie and have the woman wearing it think that I am just interested in her boobs. Heck it may be both but something on the back would eliminate the distraction depending on the case.

DocZ
10-20-2006, 09:49 AM
Whats next, Kevin Federline doing BMW bike adverts?

For the younger, and younger at heart I grit my teeth and say: ok, but the first one of you who suggests BMW or BMWMOA "skullets".....

:bottle

"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than have to have a frontal lobotomy"

Rasbutan
10-20-2006, 09:54 AM
Whats next, Kevin Federline doing BMW bike adverts?

For the younger, and younger at heart I grit my teeth and say: ok, but the first one of you who suggests BMW or BMWMOA "skullets".....

:bottle

"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than have to have a frontal lobotomy"

That's K-Fed to you :stick

Seriously, what's a skullet? Is it the thing the rappers wear? Please don't make fun, I'm from the midwest. :dunno

Belquar
10-20-2006, 11:32 AM
I don't know what a skullet is either. When I googled Skullet this is what I came up with. I believe it is some sort of hairstyle. Here are some examples:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/belquar/skullet.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/belquar/skullet2.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/belquar/skullet3.jpg

For some reason I don't think this is what was meant unless of course the hoodies purpose would be to protect the public from such a trendy hairstyle.

jdmetzger
10-20-2006, 11:52 AM
This one is High Viz. We can place our logo on the front ?

I don't know if that one is such a good idea. It would make all of us look like Grand Wizards in the Klan, or something. White is also out. If you want high-viz, go yellow. :)

Daver90s
10-20-2006, 12:47 PM
Oh for sh*t's sake!!!!

If you guys want to get into a pissing contest, please do it in another thread. We're trying to get hoodies made here and I don't want to see this thread go to the doghouse.


Honestly.....
Did I miss something or is everyone PO'ed because of a James Brown avitar?

HA! get back - HA! Gotcha!

userw5
10-20-2006, 12:53 PM
Did I A)miss something or 2) is everyone PO'ed because of a James Brown avitar?

HA! get back - HA! Gotcha!

A :brow

Daver90s
10-20-2006, 12:57 PM
Ah, well, thanks - I guess I should log in more often - keep missing all the drama.
As far a hoodies go, I'd say make it any color (read:black) and put the MOA logo on the left breast. - I'd buy that for a dollar.

GSTom
10-20-2006, 01:44 PM
Did I miss something or is everyone PO'ed because of a James Brown avitar?


It was a different avatar that featured a large breasted woman. Bigdelta changed it to the James Brown after the fuss started.

bigdelta
10-20-2006, 02:11 PM
Did I miss something or is everyone PO'ed because of a James Brown avitar?

HA! get back - HA! Gotcha!

complained and/or were offended,mostly the 3 or 4 female members that bother to post here.And about the same number or fewer mamby pamby male(?) members also.Bet it's fun having a beer with those guys(?).The Milwaukee Lite commercials come to mind.You know,the ones where the men show their female dominated side. :bottle
I decided to use the JB avatar because unlike some men here,JB had the stones to make,"It's a Man's World",about 40+ years ago.Applies to this hobby and the clubs that represent this hobby-male dominated..
And in the future,as I suggested earlier,if you don't like what someone posts,use the ignore feature-works like a charm.

DocZ
10-20-2006, 02:14 PM
I was in retrograde orbit about the planet Zero and could not be reached. Someone below found the "Skullet". See the pic of a fairly rancid dude.

Ahh. "K-line"....I'll see that that info is put where it can do the most good!

Being from the Midwest - Very good! And I'm a southern boy.

DocZ
10-20-2006, 02:16 PM
Looks like I'm not quite back from Zero just yet. K-Fed. Got it.

I suppose I ought to start watching ET, reading "People" even thought the small words and giant font confuses me....

DocZ
10-20-2006, 02:20 PM
http://www.mulletjunky.com/skullet.htm

See how "hoodies" fit right in?

Friedle
10-20-2006, 02:36 PM
Yes, I would buy.

Black is always good. Blue, too. Why not have some colors that are close to the colors of bikes? If one orders a hoodie in your bike's color, the $1.00 goes to "xxxxxmotorcycle organization", or a charity of your choice, or KBASA foundation?.

I prefer a zipper version instead of pullover.

The logo...why, of course! But I agree that the logo needs a bit of work.

PLEASE...put a big closable/sealable pocket on the upper arm for cell phone or sunglasses AND a closable pocket in chest center.

How about a fold in feature for the hood storage?

My 0.02.


Sounds like what you want is a JACKET, not a hoodie.

Friedle

CanadianSteve
10-20-2006, 08:15 PM
I would be interested in a hoodie, OR a jacket for that matter ... I like the idea of motoman as well ... really want this to reflect motorcycles though, so let's have a direct motorcycle reference included, not just some letters such as BMWMOA, although that should be included as well. Thanks for trying this Mandy. Let's do it eh !!!
Steve

cjack
10-20-2006, 08:20 PM
... really want this to reflect motorcycles, Steve

Good thought. How about our own MOARIDER LOGO. Let BMW have their outdated, overused motoman/girl. It shouldn't be rocket science for some of the talented folks around here to come up with an MOARIDER.

12bswayed
10-21-2006, 12:36 PM
Hello all...I don't post much, but for what it's worth, I would buy a hoodie or that fleece jacket from Duluth looks good too. If the logo is huge, I probably wouldn't buy it. I like the Motoman logo with the BMW logo (the club logo)...that would look good.

That James Brown avatar is hilarious! Love that hair!!

The_Veg
10-21-2006, 03:35 PM
Who knew that sweatshirts could inspire so much discussion. You all *REALLY* need to go ride! :nyah

cjack
10-21-2006, 04:34 PM
Who knew that sweatshirts could inspire so much discussion. You all *REALLY* need to go ride! :nyah

Those are the things we wear up here when it's 80 deg F in Dallas in January. We were on our way to the Fredricksburg National and after a particularly heavy rain we stopped in a truckstop to buy Viki a sweatshirt. They didn't have any. Just t shirts. I guess y'all don't need them.

Mika
10-22-2006, 06:07 AM
http://www.map-engineering.com uses the Motoman logo. So who does it belong to ? What harm is there of it being deviated from the owner of the trademark ? Even a copy of sort is an infringement ? :lurk

We have had a couple of discussions of over my forum membership that have brought up the use of motoman. Each time it was reported to be trademarked or copywrited and BMW was not allowing use of it. I don't remember the author of the information but at the time they seemed credible and so I remembered it.

I still like our current logo big or small on a MOA hoodie or fleece jacket, but I am a logo luddite of sorts.

BradfordBenn
10-22-2006, 08:12 PM
I just don't like the current logo, it does not indicate motorcycles. I would hope to see the motoman.

darencs
10-22-2006, 11:08 PM
I probably wouldn't buy a hoodie, if my head's cold I'll put on a hat, and that extra material under a coat bugs me, But, if the country store had sweatshirts with the same markings of the Basic Club Short Sleeve T-shirt I'd buy one. I would prefer black or dark blue but grey would be good too.
I don't like the MOA world logo on anything but I kind of like the looks of the t-shirt design
Described as: "Silk-screened BMW Roundel with club name surrounding it on the left breast and on opposite shoulder. On the back is the BMW Roundel above 'The legendary motorcycles of Germany'. "

Belquar
10-23-2006, 06:08 AM
Described as: "Silk-screened BMW Roundel with club name surrounding it on the left breast and on opposite shoulder. On the back is the BMW Roundel above 'The legendary motorcycles of Germany'. "


I like this too.

Belquar
10-23-2006, 06:10 AM
Since use of the Roundel is so restricted, maybe we could find a dealer who would be willing to help us with getting the hoodie together.

The_Veg
10-23-2006, 09:38 AM
I find the hood useful in the down-position for keeping my neck and shoulders warm, but not so much that I own one now except for a twenty-year-old one I've kept for sentimental reasons (has the logo of the university I would attend several years later on it). But if my head is cold I'll wear a hat.

Daver90s
10-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Hey - Big Delta stole my avitar - That aint cool.
maybe he should go back to the big, bouncing boobs.
at least it was original.

jdmetzger
10-23-2006, 09:27 PM
Hey - Big Delta stole my avitar - That aint cool.
maybe he should go back to the big, bouncing boobs.
at least it was original.

Did you just call him a big bouncing boob? I didn't think name calling was allowed on the forum, accurate or not!! :stick ;););)

.. Don't worry, I'm sure it's a placeholder while he comes up with a NEW offensive avatar! :D

:lurk

Braddog
10-23-2006, 10:57 PM
Hey Mandy,
I would definitely buy a hoodie. Living in Minnesota, "hoodies" are what I wear about 6 months out of the year around the house.

I don't really care about color, darks would be good, blue, green, charcoal, etc.

Make it happen!

DSBMW1
10-25-2006, 09:26 PM
A hoodie would be great. How about a motorcycle licence plate with BMW MOA for the plate number. It might be kind of cool. what do yall think?

bigdelta
10-25-2006, 10:34 PM
Hey - Big Delta stole my avitar - That aint cool.
maybe he should go back to the big, bouncing boobs.
at least it was original.

But to appease you along with the other avatar whiner earlier,I changed it.
"bigdelta stole my avatar".What a whiner.I can only imagine what your life is like,"He went ahead of me and I was 1st"."That's mine-you can't have it".
"I wanted that". ect....

bigdelta
10-25-2006, 10:37 PM
Did you just call him a big bouncing boob? I didn't think name calling was allowed on the forum, accurate or not!! :stick ;););)

.. Don't worry, I'm sure it's a placeholder while he comes up with a NEW offensive avatar! :D

:lurk
It's probably offensive enough for you.Next.

BradfordBenn
10-25-2006, 10:53 PM
Hey - Big Delta stole my avitar - That aint cool.
maybe he should go back to the big, bouncing boobs.
at least it was original.

I gotta ask, did you create it? Cause if you did I would be interested in a bigger version of it to explain what a boxer is....

bigdelta
10-25-2006, 10:57 PM
he has copyrighted/trademarked it.


I gotta ask, did you create it? Cause if you did I would be interested in a bigger version of it to explain what a boxer is....

Belquar
10-26-2006, 07:39 AM
Big Delta,

I tend to find your "abrasiveness" amusing. But you seem to be intent on burning bridges around here. I had a buddy in Colorado who we used to call 60 grit because he very often made our trainees cry under pressure. You remind me a lot of him.

Take it easy,
Brian

EastTNBeemer
10-26-2006, 07:53 AM
I would guess the motoman could be modified somewhat...... like the avitar I "borrowed". Count me in.

mandypants
10-26-2006, 08:54 AM
Ok, so honestly, I've checked into the restrictions on the Motoman, and it doesn't look promising for our cause. It looks like we're going to have to go with the MOA logo.
I'm thinking that we'll just run some black or blue hoodies with one line of color...maybe in the "BMWMOA" license plate look or something else simple.
Before this thread jumps back into a discussion of other subject matters, I would like to thank everyone for their input and sharing of ideas. I hope you like (and purchase!) what we come up with to support the Country Store. :heart

I look forward to seeing y'all around a campfire with your MOA hoodies on! We'll all be Twinkies! :wave

Rasbutan
10-26-2006, 08:56 AM
I look forward to seeing y'all around a campfire with your MOA hoodies on! We'll all be Twinkies![/COLOR] :wave

Twinkies??

Belquar
10-26-2006, 08:57 AM
Twinkies??


+1???

Hodag
10-26-2006, 08:59 AM
children sized clothing would be nice also.

RebeccaV
10-26-2006, 08:59 AM
I would like to thank everyone for their input and sharing of ideas. I hope you like (and purchase!) what we come up with to support the Country Store. :heart :wave

Thank YOU Mandy! I like the idea of a BMWMOA license plate.

I am looking forward to adding another hoodie to my collection.

mandypants
10-26-2006, 09:06 AM
Twinkies??

You show up at a rally wearing the exact same shirt in the exact same color as your best friend.
You are now officially TWINKIES...like two of them in a little package - identical.
Got it? :buds

cjack
10-26-2006, 09:09 AM
Thank YOU Mandy! I like the idea of a BMWMOA license plate.

I am looking forward to adding another hoodie to my collection.

Me too, I like that license plate idea. It will be my first hoodie.

Rasbutan
10-26-2006, 09:11 AM
You show up at a rally wearing the exact same shirt in the exact same color as your best friend.
You are now officially TWINKIES...like two of them in a little package - identical.
Got it? :buds

So what happens when there are more than 2? Is it a carton then? Maybe a case? :stick

BTW...are these going to be ready by xmas?

Hodag
10-26-2006, 09:15 AM
I'm hungry for a twinkie now

wmubrown
10-26-2006, 10:27 AM
A hoodie would be great. How about a motorcycle licence plate with BMW MOA for the plate number. It might be kind of cool. what do yall think?
You have to get that through your DMV and there could only be one per state. Or am I missing something? Do you mean a plate "back"??

Rasbutan
10-26-2006, 10:37 AM
You have to get that through your DMV and there could only be one per state. Or am I missing something? Do you mean a plate "back"??

We're talking about sweatshirts.

Daver90s
10-26-2006, 11:06 AM
I gotta ask, did you create it? Cause if you did I would be interested in a bigger version of it to explain what a boxer is....
No I didn't create it - don't remember where I found it. Sorry.
BTW - I have a friend who is a wizzard and was totally offended by bigd's new one - :stick

bigdelta
10-26-2006, 11:44 AM
in black.

Ok, so honestly, I've checked into the restrictions on the Motoman, and it doesn't look promising for our cause. It looks like we're going to have to go with the MOA logo.
I'm thinking that we'll just run some black or blue hoodies with one line of color...maybe in the "BMWMOA" license plate look or something else simple.
Before this thread jumps back into a discussion of other subject matters, I would like to thank everyone for their input and sharing of ideas. I hope you like (and purchase!) what we come up with to support the Country Store. :heart

I look forward to seeing y'all around a campfire with your MOA hoodies on! We'll all be Twinkies! :wave

bigdelta
10-26-2006, 11:48 AM
if you did,you would understand.Glad I'm able to amuse someone here.
And as far as burning bridges,who cares.This a message board,not life.
People take this way too seriously here.
John

Big Delta,

I tend to find your "abrasiveness" amusing. But you seem to be intent on burning bridges around here. I had a buddy in Colorado who we used to call 60 grit because he very often made our trainees cry under pressure. You remind me a lot of him.

Take it easy,
Brian

SheRidesABeemer
10-26-2006, 12:08 PM
if you did,you would understand.Glad I'm able to amuse someone here.
And as far as burning bridges,who cares.This a message board,not life.
People take this way too seriously here.
John

The forum is a means of socializing with like minded people. Most people, when they gather to socialize understand that certain norms will be observed. If they choose not to observe these norms they will be shunned by the group. Most people will choose to leave the group at this time. The internet allows cast out members to continue to linger virtually with the group. The cast out member feigns disinterest in the groups norms and protests the many ways the group does not support his values, only reinforcing the perception that he does not belong.

jdmetzger
10-26-2006, 01:57 PM
I would put your photo up as my avatar if you'd size it for me

It's probably offensive enough for you.Next.

I'd do that for you, but then you too would be cursed by the flood of women who follow me around and send me PM's all the time. That's why I need a hoodie, to try and hide myself.

... does anyone else hear an alarm going off? :snore

Hodag
10-26-2006, 02:44 PM
are they done yet?

wmubrown
10-27-2006, 07:48 AM
We're talking about sweatshirts.
OH... DOH!!!! Now I get it... mind was stuck in the rut of IBMWR plate holder fanatics...

crazydrummerdude
10-27-2006, 08:37 AM
And as far as burning bridges,who cares.This a message board,not life.

Last time I checked, I was alive...

..and wearing hoodies. Has anyone suggested just a hoodie-version of the current MOA long-sleeve shirt? Or is that not a good idea?

bigdelta
10-31-2006, 03:10 PM
http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/08/b4/76/a7_1.JPG

at about $28.

Visian
10-31-2006, 04:47 PM
Please let Knary design it... it needs to be tasteful, and not horsey or garish.

:)

RebeccaV
10-31-2006, 04:49 PM
Please let Knary design it... it needs to be tasteful, and not horsey or garish.

:)
+1

Rasbutan
10-31-2006, 08:45 PM
I have full confidence that mandy can design something tasteful, and not horsey or garish.

:thumb

Visian
11-01-2006, 06:35 AM
well... not saying that she can't... but mandy (in addition to being a very nice young lady) is a professional *writer,* while scott is a professional *graphic designer.* :)

all i know is that i don't buy anything from the country store because the designs are not well-refined.

and as long as we're talking design, i feel that the whole MOA package needs a refresh, especially if we wish to attract a younger audience. our look is stale.

think fox (http://www.foxracing.com/us/en/fox/), etnies (http://www.etniesmotox.com/), icon (http://www.rideicon.com/),etc.

ian

snoone
11-01-2006, 07:01 AM
well... not saying that she can't... but mandy (in addition to being a very nice young lady) is a professional *writer,* while scott is a professional *graphic designer.* :)

all i know is that i don't buy anything from the country store because the designs are not well-refined.

and as long as we're talking design, i feel that the whole MOA package needs a refresh, especially if we wish to attract a younger audience. our look is stale.

think fox (http://www.foxracing.com/us/en/fox/), etnies (http://www.etniesmotox.com/), icon (http://www.rideicon.com/),etc.

ian

I agree. We certainly are not even close to the coolest bike enthusiast brand around

Rasbutan
11-01-2006, 07:05 AM
well... not saying that she can't... but mandy (in addition to being a very nice young lady) is a professional *writer,* while scott is a professional *graphic designer.* :)

all i know is that i don't buy anything from the country store because the designs are not well-refined.

and as long as we're talking design, i feel that the whole MOA package needs a refresh, especially if we wish to attract a younger audience. our look is stale.

think fox (http://www.foxracing.com/us/en/fox/), etnies (http://www.etniesmotox.com/), icon (http://www.rideicon.com/),etc.

ian

+1

cjack
11-01-2006, 07:08 AM
+1

I was wondering...what's this thread about?

Rasbutan
11-01-2006, 07:15 AM
I was wondering...what's this thread about?


sweatshirts

cjack
11-01-2006, 07:33 AM
sweatshirts

Oh good. I'll take an M and an L in black.

jld2872
11-01-2006, 11:11 AM
I would buy it if its tasteful, reasonably priced, and preferably black (it's slimming!).