R100R side stand issues

[mandypants]

I ride a 1993 R100R, and for the life of me, I cannot extend my side stand fully while I'm on the bike. It's spring loaded, so as soon as I sit on the bike, it pops back up. I like this feature. However, I do NOT like having to get off my bike and hold it up while I put in on the side stand or center stand.

It's not that I'm short. I'm just a smidge over 5'8". Guys taller than me sit on my bike and can't get the side stand down either.

If I'm riding a short distance, it's no big deal. I just dismount and hold her up while I put the stand down. The problem comes in when I've been riding long distances and am physically tired and try to hold it up while putting it on the stand. :jawdrop

The sidestand needs to be modified, moved or otherwise. As it is, the side stand is mounted to the engine guards.

Does anyone else know anyone with a similar problem? :idea

Anybody got an R100R that gives them fits with the stand? :dunno

Thanks!

[Isamemon]

you actually like the self fold up part, wow
it must be different on the "newer"airheads, as I hated it on my 80/7
there are lots of after market options to fix this
Browns side stands is one, "fixer bracket", is another, sure that there is more
for me , at 5'10. I just have to lean the bike a bit the right side adn get my foot to kick the sidestand out
of course, I have one of the fixes

[widebmw]

I have this on my 92 R100R
http://www.schneidersinc.com/side_stand_fixer.htm

[rinty]

Mandy:

Just have your tech weld a tang onto the side stand that you can get the heel of your boot on. I had one on my '82 and it worked well. It was about an inch and a half long.

Rinty

[mikea]

Schneider Fix bracket here. Be very, very careful that you put up the stand before riding off. It no longer self-retracts, and having had that function w/the stock stand can make you forget.

Wudo used to sell a stand with a bracket already attached to allow you to push the stand all the way down while seated on the bike.

Mike

[BeemoKat]

Mandy, I just bought one of these (r100r) and noticed the same thing, but figured out that if you get your boot under the footpeg, it will fold up and allow you to get at the sidestand. HTH
dave

[jdmetzger]

Mandy,

I'm not sure if the R100R is different than the older airheads or not. If it's the same, you can always loosen the mounting bolt for the sidestand (also the engine mounting bolt), hold the stand down, and then re-tighten the bolt. All while the bike is on the centerstand, of course.

This will turn the stand into a non-auto retract stand. I know you said you like the auto-retract feature (I am one of the few who like it, as well), but this might be a good temporary solution while you get an aftermarket stand, or go some other route.

Coincidentally, I'm 6' tall, but still stretch a little to get the stand all the way down. I usually get it partway deployed with my foot on the ground, then pull in the clutch and walk the bike backwards (leaving my foot in place on the stand), to get it to fully extend. This might be dangerous if you get partway and find out your leg isn't long enough, however.

[BeemoKat]

[QUOTE=jdmetzger]

I'm not sure if the R100R is different than the older airheads or not.

Josh, it's a different stand, different mounting.

[jdmetzger]

[QUOTE=jdmetzger]

I'm not sure if the R100R is different than the older airheads or not.

Josh, it's a different stand, different mounting.

How dare BMW change the stand mounting without consulting with me? ;)

My fault; I didn't see your posting before I replied. I even did a search of the airheads-tech email list archives (FULL of good information) and all I found was links to that schneiderinc.com "fix", and the instructions you provided; involving the footpeg thing.

[kbasa]

Put the sidestand down enough to touch the ground and then roll your bike back a bit to extend it fully.

[BeemoKat]

Mandy:

It was about an inch and a half long.

Rinty
But what about the sidestand tang?!? :rofl

[mandypants]

Put the sidestand down enough to touch the ground and then roll your bike back a bit to extend it fully.

I'm thinking that this is the best option for me, although leaning it over THAT FAR freaks me out. My gut instinct is to NOT let myself lean that far.

I think the solution is going to be to somehow extend the side stand so that it touches the ground sooner, and then do exactly what you suggested, Dave.

Maybe that way, I can keep my bike upright and myself sane! Fanx, everyone! :wave

[bmw14651]

I had a similar problem with my '86 R80RT. I'm short and found I had to get off the bike to properly deploy the stand, an uncomfortable and unstable situation. I found that there is no Brown sidestand available for the later airheads such as mine. I did find a wonderful solution in an accessory sidestand from MotoBins, a large BMW mail order house that operates out of the UK. This stand mounts several inches further back than the stock stand and is easily deployed while seated on the bike. I love it.

[Braddog]

Put the sidestand down enough to touch the ground and then roll your bike back a bit to extend it fully.

You get the hang of it, but then again, I'm 6'2".

Brown sidestands on both the airheads now, and I'm very satisfied.

[AntonLargiader]

I think the solution is going to be to somehow extend the side stand so that it touches the ground sooner, and then do exactly what you suggested, Dave.
Mandy, I think you should not lengthen the stand. This usually creates problems with where the foot of the stand goes when it folds up, or with something else. Plus the bike won't sit right any more.

We call it the "Leap of faith sidestand" because of how you deploy it once you're used to it. On my R100R I sort of push it out with the ball of my foot and then plant my heel in the ground and rock the bike back a bit. On my GS, where there is more room, I just swing it out and plop the bike over on it without even touching the ground (which is very alarming to watch but it's all OK). These bikes can sit WAY over on the stand without problems.

Lastly, you might want to compare it to another R100R just to see if the stand is the same. It might have been messed with in the past.

[lkchris]

Extend sidestand in two steps.

1. Get it as far as you can and lightly rest the bike on it.

2. Regroup your leg and push it the final bit.

[aaaaaa]

Hi all, I've been away a while. I have a a '93 R100R with 190K miles. The sidestand functions just as BMW intended. It's perfect as is. No modifications are needed.
Robert...

[R80andR100RT]

Wudo still has the airhead side stand replacement on their web site for about $80. It has about a 6" extender that points straight up when the sidestand is raised. I have it on my RT. I push on the extender and can easily move the side stand all the way to lock and then holding it there just lean the bike over and get off.

[The_Veg]

I just eyeballed mine ('95 R) and I think the tang idea is not bad- there's just enough room at the very end of the stand's foot to attach something that would give you an inch or two of advantage and still clear the collector. Dave's idea is good too; maybe a combination the tang and a little prectise with that method may yield good results. But I'm just guessing here, because I'm Uber-Tall and have never had any problem holding it deployed while I let the bike onto it- and I like the spring-loading too.

[92r100rs]

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to order one of these Wudo sidestand tabs? The website is in German and I don't Sprecken Zie Deutch. I need just a little more tab to properly maneuver the sidestand down (by catching with the toe, rather than the heel). It seems like the sidestand was designed to work with a folding peg so you could get the right position (pegs on my 92r100rs are fixed) so it needs a little extra tab to get it right, Sounds like this Wudo tab is the fix. Thanks.

Craig

[JETHRIDGE]

Mendy: Try putting the side stand down and leaning the bike over as far as it will go and let the weight of the bike hold the side stand in place AND THEN GOT OFF. I had an R90/6 years ago that I put a 4"sq piece of plywood under the side stand, leaned it over as far as it would go and then got off the bike.(Had a string attached to retrive it on departure) Never a problem
Jack Ethridge
Ocala Fl

[r60us]

I had a friend who was killed when he forgot to retract the sidestand and was thrown into a post box.

I'll take chances with the crappy self retracting sidestand, thanks.

[92r100rs]

I agree that the stand should self retract.... The problem is just that that tab is too short to do what, in my interpretation, BMW intended. If you get can get your toe on the tab it extends great and your leg fits perfectly inside the fairing as the stand extends. But because of the position of the tab and the footpeg, you are forced to start extending with the heel and you can't slide the tab to the toe if your boots have any tread. Anyone else with the same problem? Am I crazy? Anyone just weld on a longer tab? This wudo sidestand sounds like it really nailed the fix. The dismount on this bike requires gymastics as it is.