GS parked on it's side...

[mike cousino]

What was with the guy leaving his GS on it's side near the Hospitality Tent and then yelling at people that were nice enough to pick it up for him?
:lurk

[iRene]

Pm me

[soffiler]

Pm me

Not suitable for public consumption? I was curious too.

[Unregistered]

prolly the wee girl that did the demonstration for picking up bike.

[The_Veg]

My understanding is that there's some guy out there who's notorious for simply preferring to park it that way. I think I saw his bike at last year's rally with a sign on it saying not to pick it up.

[Unregistered]

My understanding is that there's some guy out there who's notorious for simply preferring to park it that way. I think I saw his bike at last year's rally with a sign on it saying not to pick it up.

Why in the world would anyone do that?

[snoone]

We had a GS discussion at the rally with our neighbors we were camping with and decided that laying your GS on its side was the ultimate GS cool thing only seconded by all the GS guys that ride around standing on their pegs

[aaaaaa]

If I see this bike next year, I'll putting mine next to it on it's side. The more that do it the better. Trend setting, that's what it is.
robert :lurk

[wuli959]

If I see this bike next year, I'll putting mine next to it on it's side. The more that do it the better. Trend setting, that's what it is.
robert :lurk

just lay it on top of his so yours doesn't get dirty :buds

[Unregistered]

Creepy Trials Guy. He showed at an Advrider function in WV last year. Same shtick.

He's an attention whore, and at one time during the MOA decided to take it upon himself to try and "teach" how to pick up a bike. Lady tried, popped a disc in her back (her words), and was carted off by the EMT's.

Not welcome at any Advrider events in the future, that's for sure, at least none that I'm involved with.

Drif10

[aaaaaa]

We saw that lady on the ground. She was already being helped so we left without knowing how she got hurt. Something that seemed funny can turn on you awfully fast.
my apoligies,
robert

[Hodag]

all them adv guys should be banned from attending moa functions

[kbasa]

all them adv guys should be banned from attending moa functions

we should start with that hodag guy, but he'd have to attend an moa function first.

[Emoto]

What's ADVRider?

































:hide

[flash412]

What's ADVRider?Guys that generally don't join the MOA because they're NOT OLD FARTS. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif

[Unregistered]

all them adv guys should be banned from attending moa functions
I think that a total of about 800 MOA members on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday would've agreed with you, had they have known who was telling them NO!

:ha

Drif10

[mike cousino]

He's an attention whore


Is he the same one that rode through the mud just before the Closing Ceremonies?

[kbasa]

Guys that generally don't join the MOA because they're NOT OLD FARTS. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif

Heh. Former AdvRider mod here and member since way back. :evil

[BouncinBob]

Saw it in Lima, Ohio. Same MO. He should take the kick stand off to decrease the weight.

This guy has been doing this for years. I think he needs the attention. I wonder how often he gets air in the clutch (I think I always see it with the right side down).

[GreenStainz]

This guy has been doing this for years. I think he needs the attention. I wonder how often he gets air in the clutch (I think I always see it with the right side down).


who cares sounds like the dude is a jaggoff and really needs a girlfriend

[jeneralist]

Creepy Trials Guy. He showed at an Advrider function in WV last year. Same shtick.

He's an attention whore, and at one time during the MOA decided to take it upon himself to try and "teach" how to pick up a bike. Lady tried, popped a disc in her back (her words), and was carted off by the EMT's.


FWIW, when I started looking at a GS that was deliberately laid down -- it had "don't worry, I always sleep like this" and other such messages written on it -- the owner showed me how to pick it up, then let me do it myself. I'm grateful for the chance. Same technique that Skert was using later the same day....

[OUTBACKUFO]

Heh. Former AdvRider mod here and member since way back. :evil


The GS stands for Girth and Sustenance :laugh

[Hodag]

we should start with that hodag guy, but he'd have to attend an moa function first.

when is the board meeting in west bend?
I have several grievances to air

[Kev95GS]

The GS stands for Girth and Sustenance :laugh


That must be why I get all those e-mails about increasing this and that. :laugh

I've seen the laid down GS guy as well. I was volunteering last year when he had his bike in the bike show. People would come and tell me his bike had fallen over. I'd just laugh and say he was a goob! He also has his oil filler cap epoxied shut, I guess he turns it over on the handlebars and seat, like we used to with bicycles, and fills it up from the drain hole. :laugh

To each his own I suppose.

Kevin

[soffiler]

...I've seen the laid down GS guy as well. I was volunteering last year when he had his bike in the bike show. People would come and tell me his bike had fallen over. I'd just laugh and say he was a goob! He also has his oil filler cap epoxied shut, I guess he turns it over on the handlebars and seat, like we used to with bicycles, and fills it up from the drain hole....


Wow. Wow wow wow. I still haven't been able to get over the parking on the side thing, and now the epoxied oil filler. My brain just went tilt. I'm trying NOT to wonder what other oddities characterize this man's life. I'd better get back for my Diversity Training refresher course.

[kbasa]

Wow. Wow wow wow. I still haven't been able to get over the parking on the side thing, and now the epoxied oil filler. My brain just went tilt. I'm trying NOT to wonder what other oddities characterize this man's life. I'd better get back for my Diversity Training refresher course.


I don't want to know how he eats. :ha

[iRene]

Guys that generally don't join the MOA because they're NOT OLD FARTS. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif

Ouch, that 'un HURT!!!!

[soffiler]

I don't want to know how he eats. :ha


What!? No, don't tell me his mouth is epoxied shut too...

:bolt

[aea6574]

Howdy All:

I hope you are well.

I did not see anything wrong with the bike on the side. I figured the guy knew what he was doing. It was pretty clear that he meant to have it that way.

http://www.nopony.com/pix/gs.JPG

[FredRydr]

He also has his oil filler cap epoxied shut....
He has to do that. He is turning his valve cover and head and cylinder into the sump for four quarts of oil. In order to show off without all the oil escaping around the stock oil filler cap, he has to seal it shut with glue. But hey, desparate times require desparate measures, and based upon his behavior at Finger Lakes last year, he must be desparate.

Fred
R1150R - upright and glad of it!

[R80RTJohnny]

Quite obvious that the bike prefers to rest on it's side. It's different, but to each their own.

[GSfornow]

Maybe it is an attention getting devise - So pay no attention :D

[BradfordBenn]

What ever makes him happy.

Could be worse, he could be walking around with a funny hat on... :brad

[jdmetzger]

What ever makes him happy.

Could be worse, he could be walking around with a funny hat on... :brad

Yeah, who was that jerk with the ears and tail on his hat? Talk about needing some attention!!! :laugh

[Fritzc]

Wow. Wow wow wow. I still haven't been able to get over the parking on the side thing, and now the epoxied oil filler. My brain just went tilt. I'm trying NOT to wonder what other oddities characterize this man's life. I'd better get back for my Diversity Training refresher course.
These thoughts make me chuckle a bit. It makes me think how one's perception of a person can change as you get to know them. Greg belongs to our BMW Touring Club of Detroit and is a very cool guy. Greg contributes a lot to the club with his humor and willingness to volunter for extras. When he leads a group ride he is very considerate and our safety is his primary concern. Greg has taught every female rider in our club how to pick up his bike. You would not believe the look of confidence that comes over their faces when they realize they can do it. I'm still not sure just why he does it. Perhaps it fell over one day and he though, why not? When I was a kid I always dropped my pedal bike flat on the ground just out of habit and the fact it had no sidestand. :wave

[vtpaul]

Greg has taught every female rider in our club how to pick up his bike.

Soon they should be able to pick up their own! ;)

[mike cousino]

Greg has taught every female rider in our club how to pick up his bike.

Begs the question: Why only females? :dunno

[Rob Nye]

Greg placed his GS directly in front of the fairground offices.

The general manager of the facility watched as people would see the bike and pick it up, thinking they were helping.

Greg would then storm out of hospitality and proceed to scream at the good samaritan.

The GM then watched as Greg tried to "teach" a woman how to pick up a bike. She was transported to the hospital with a back injury.

Security got involved (Security chair is Seargent in Rehoboth PD) only to ask him that if he had to keep his bike on it's side that he do so at his tent. Greg gave him so much mouth that he almost got bounced from the rally, which after injuring a guest I would have supported 100%.

Your hero is my moron.

[soffiler]

These thoughts make me chuckle a bit. It makes me think how one's perception of a person can change as you get to know them...


That's why I need to get back to Diversity Training. At the moment I've forgotten how to get over my complete lack of desire to get to know this person.

[dugmar]

Your hero is my moron.

After hearing and now reading about that he's my moron too.

[eddie]

He who storms out and screams soon will storm out and scream at wrong person.

[beemerron]

Greg placed his GS directly in front of the fairground offices.

The general manager of the facility watched as people would see the bike and pick it up, thinking they were helping.

Greg would then storm out of hospitality and proceed to scream at the good samaritan.

The GM then watched as Greg tried to "teach" a woman how to pick up a bike. She was transported to the hospital with a back injury.

Security got involved (Security chair is Seargent in Rehoboth PD) only to ask him that if he had to keep his bike on it's side that he do so at his tent. Greg gave him so much mouth that he almost got bounced from the rally, which after injuring a guest I would have supported 100%.

Your hero is my moron.

Greg may be geek or a few other things but he's not a moron.

Someone who tries to pick up a bike that has "do not lift" or "bike at rest" written all over it, is a moron.

Someone, while relaying some very important infromation to a crowd, screams at them to shut up when they try to tell him that they can't hear him, that's a moron. (Charleston reference)

Greg did not injure the guest. She injured herself and could have just as easily hurt herself at the Skert demo.

[Emoto]

Greg did not injure the guest. She injured herself and could have just as easily hurt herself at the Skert demo.

What he did was create a dangerous situation where a woman injured herself, because he wasn't smart enough to realise that maybe - just maybe -not everyone in the world is fit enough to right a 600+ lb motorcycle. I don't tend to call names, but as far as I am concerned your pal ought to be riding the short bus, if you know what I mean. An F650GS or some other small bike would have been perfectly adequate for teaching the PRINCIPLES of picking up a bike. To use a full-size GS was to invite injury. The woman trusted him, but he hadn't really thought things through. It is too bad Greg wasn't injured instead of some poor trusting woman. I would say the same thing to the guy's face, FWIW.

[BoxerTwin]

Greg may be geek or a few other things but he's not a moron...
Attention whore? Jerk? Those would apply...

[BubbaZanetti]

someone one enjoys attention, no other logical explination for this action

[BradfordBenn]

Greg did not injure the guest. She injured herself and could have just as easily hurt herself at the Skert demo.

Being that he was the one doing the instruction he has some culpability in the situation.

[kbasa]

Curious behavior, to say the least.

[dancogan]

"Being that he was the one doing the instruction he has some culpability in the situation."

So this is an instance of absolute liability? Hmmmm.

"Curious behavior, to say the least."

Lots of judgmental opinions going on here, and I'll bet by people who did not witness the incident. If he's the fellow I think he is, he's in the same club I am, and parks his bike the same way at Sunday breakfast. Attention whore? No, even though I've seen his parking method numerous times, I couldn't point him out. Doesn't seem to crave attention.

[bluehole]

GSfornow has it right. This guy is obviously seeking attention. The best thing to do is ignore him and his bike.

[BradfordBenn]

"Being that he was the one doing the instruction he has some culpability in the situation."

So this is an instance of absolute liability? Hmmmm.

"Curious behavior, to say the least."

Lots of judgmental opinions going on here, and I'll bet by people who did not witness the incident. If he's the fellow I think he is, he's in the same club I am, and parks his bike the same way at Sunday breakfast. Attention whore? No, even though I've seen his parking method numerous times, I couldn't point him out. Doesn't seem to crave attention.

You know Dan, you have a point, I was making a judgement without being there. I did not say he had absolute liability, just some culpability (Deserving of blame or censure as being wrong, evil, improper, or injurious.) the idea being improper in my mind. Just like freedom of speech allows one to say many things, it does not protect the right to yell fire in a theater. So going to a motorcycle event and laying your motorcycle on the ground and then not expecting someone to try and stand it up is improper in my opinion.

I will say though that when one is teaching something, one needs to be aware of the abilities of the student and work within those limitations. Not saying he is a bad person, just saying I think that the situation he created was not the most appropriatte to the venue.

We still buds though
:thumb

[BoxerTwin]

Sorry, in my book anyone who parks a 600 lb motorcycle on its side with "do not lift" written all over it, when there is no mechanical advantage (and indeed most likely a disadvantage) in doing so, then screams at people who do what any sane motorcycle owner would do, is an attention whore.

That, or he just gets his rocks off by screaming at people who fell into his trap, in which case he's an *******.

[dancogan]

We still buds though
:thumb

Oh yeah! :buds I just get the feeling that there's a lot of jumping on the bandwagon going on here, and I really don't know that any or most of it is warranted.

[BradfordBenn]

Agreed.


Gotta admit I would not park my motorcycle, either of them, on its side.

[Oznay]

This starved for attention character should hook up with skert,she could always lift his show off machine up for him :wave

[Hodag]

attenti0n whore..*******...jerk.... moron

I'm glad we got rid of the negative vibes by removing unregistered guests

[tuber1]

yeah, what is it with all these guys ridin around standing on their pegs...I see the squirrels doin it in traffic all the time...i only used to do it on long rides when my butt hurt,lol

[Daver90s]

There is a guy here in southeast MI that does that all the time (wonder if it's the same guy) - - It's really kind of stupid even if you can do it. maybe I'll lay my Roadking down next to his the next time I see him do it.
or - maybe I'll just use my kickstand. :brow

[Emoto]

There is a guy here in southeast MI that does that all the time (wonder if it's the same guy) - - It's really kind of stupid even if you can do it. maybe I'll lay my Roadking down next to his the next time I see him do it.
or - maybe I'll just use my kickstand. :brow

Park it real close, so he can't pick his up! :stick :D

[Rob Nye]

Park it real close, so he can't pick his up! :stick :D

Don't forget to stand by and watch so you can cuss him out when he moves your bike. :bolt

[Robert Briere]

:dunno We heard someone say that it belonged to Rob Nye, just repeating what we heard

[Rob Nye]

:dunno We heard someone say that it belonged to Rob Nye, just repeating what we heard

Yet another example of the good folks in Wisconsin being misinformed. :nyah

That's a joke folks. I have had some wonderful times in Wisconsin and I look forward to more in 07.

Feel the love. :hug

[RickG]

Not taking sides here, but FWIW...I have met Greg a couple of times at different rallies and he has always had a smile on his face and always said hello. So he likes to keep his bike on its side. I say...So What! There are far greater things in life to get upset over...like the Middle East for instance! 5 pages of discussing why he does it is even more overkill than his act of doing so.

Maybe some of you guys need some attention!

Rick G

[mike cousino]

Maybe some of you guys need some attention!

Yeah! :kiss

What I saw, was a guy screaming at some good samaritans that thought the bike had fallen over and were picking it back up. Maybe I wasn't close enough, but I didn't see any writing on it saying not to pick it up.
If the guy wants to teach riders how to pick up a fallen bike, why not give the Dropped Bike Demonstration?
But really, it's not that hard is to pick up an unloaded R-bike with crash bars and panniers. The thing is half way up already!

[beemerron]

Being that he was the one doing the instruction he has some culpability in the situation.

As does Skert. We ride motorcycles and hopefully have 1/2 a brain. If ya got a bad back, ya call AAA to pck your bike up. Did Greg grab her out of a crowd and beg that she pick up his bike. Sure. Maybe she tried to pick up a bike that had "do not lift" written all over it? My guess? The latter.
So the lady drops hers bike in the middle of an intersection, she throws her back out trying to pick it up. Now she's hobbled, in the middle of a busy intersection and she can't pick her bike up let alone move. Greg did her a big favor by exposing her malady before she really gets in a bind. Thank you Greg.
Get that back looked after woman.

[Crow18]

http://www.nopony.com/pix/gs.JPG

Me, I don't think the guy has made his point very well. He only wrote "Do not lift" on the side cases, which makes me think I'm not supposed to lift the side cases. All the rest of the stuff about "I did not fall" and "I'm sleeping" only make sense if you've heard of the guy who parks his GS on its side. Otherwise it's just kind of obtuse.

Maybe something like: "Please do not lift my bike. I lay it down to park it." Clear and direct.

Although heaven forbid he ever ends up underneath it.

[beemerron]

Ah, the irony.

[cruizbz]

I saw the bike and the lady on the ground at MOA. It was right next to the hospitality tent along the busiest walkway in the complex.

I thought, she had either been hit or had tried to advoid hitting someone and dropped the bike. I thought it very stupid to try and ride, where so many people were walking and gathering.

It is now, obvious the bike was placed to get the maximum attention from the most people. This is behavior is far more stupid than my first assumption.

My vote is for Jerk, Moron, A-HOLE!

Give him a few years to mature, before allowing him to attend more rallies.

[mike cousino]

Me, I don't think the guy has made his point very well.

That picture was not taken were we saw the bike, so I wonder if the warnings were added later?????

[beemerron]

Give him a few years to mature, before allowing him to attend more rallies.
Yea, and make him ride a K bike.

[Visian]

Sorry, in my book anyone who parks a 600 lb motorcycle on its side with "do not lift" written all over it, when there is no mechanical advantage (and indeed most likely a disadvantage) in doing so, then screams at people who do what any sane motorcycle owner would do, is an attention whore.

That, or he just gets his rocks off by screaming at people who fell into his trap, in which case he's an *******.

Point of fact: when I saw the bike on it's side, I left my post in the Ambassador's tent to go pick it up.

At that point in time, it did not have "do not lift" or anything else written on it.

Ian

[beemerron]

Point of fact: when I saw the bike on it's side, I left my post in the Ambassador's tent to go pick it up.

At that point in time, it did not have "do not lift" or anything else written on it.

Ian
In light of the above. I take back all those nasty things I said about the folks that tried to pick that bike up. You are not morons.

Greg is one of us. He's a motorcycle fanatic and what I know of him a very nice guy and very knowlegable about all things motorcycles.

For Rob or anyone else to refer to him as a moron, frosts my cake. The guy that turns left in front of you is a moron. The gal that yaks on her cell phone while your green light fades to amber is a moron. Greg is one of us and deserves some respect.

[soffiler]

...Greg is one of us and deserves some respect.

One of... who? Who's "us"? Personally, the German blood and the engineer in me are both apalled by whatever sort of mentality concludes it's OK to park a motorcycle on its side. I also don't feel much togetherness with the helmetless straight-pipe Harley rider or the race-pipe ricer either. There's lots of definitions of "us" and none of mine include every single last yahoo on two wheels with an engine in between.

Anybody here a golfer? Parking a motorcycle on its side is like teeing off with a putter.

[beemerron]

One of... who? Who's "us"? Personally, the German blood and the engineer in me are both apalled by whatever sort of mentality concludes it's OK to park a motorcycle on its side. I also don't feel much togetherness with the helmetless straight-pipe Harley rider or the race-pipe ricer either. There's lots of definitions of "us" and none of mine include every single last yahoo on two wheels with an engine in between.

Anybody here a golfer? Parking a motorcycle on its side is like teeing off with a putter.

Ummm.. a member of the BMWMOA. As far as your German blood goes....

[dancogan]

Anybody here a golfer? Parking a motorcycle on its side is like teeing off with a putter.

Ahhhh, tolerance. It's what I used to like about this forum and the people that frequent it... :hide

[BoxerTwin]

...The guy that turns left in front of you is a moron. The gal that yaks on her cell phone while your green light fades to amber is a moron...
...or the guy who parks his motorcycle laying on its side in a high traffic area at a motorcycle rally, and then barks at passers-by who try and help...

[Visian]

Greg is one of us. He's a motorcycle fanatic and what I know of him a very nice guy and very knowlegable about all things motorcycles.

OK... can definitely accept that. We are a community of rather unique individuals and no one deserves to be called a moron just for being half a bubble off (or more....). :D

BTW, this all happened right after I helped some very bizarre guy with an eye patch identify the direction for east and the approximate direction for Jerusalem. Armed with this information, he proceeded to orient his tent appropriately and began some form of tea drinking ceremony.

Go figger. :dunno

Ian

[Visian]

Anybody here a golfer? Parking a motorcycle on its side is like teeing off with a putter.

Hahaha...

I get the same looks when i flip the ball on the ground and smack it 275 yards with a 9 degree driver... and no tee.

to each his own... i was taught a very classic form of the game where you could only put the ball on a small pile of sand.

[BradfordBenn]

Ahhhh, tolerance. It's what I used to like about this forum and the people that frequent it... :hide

Remember I am not prejudice, I hate everyone equally!!!

[BoxerTwin]

BTW, this all happened right after I helped some very bizarre guy with an eye patch identify the direction for east and the approximate direction for Jerusalem. Armed with this information, he proceeded to orient his tent appropriately and began some form of tea drinking ceremony.



Ian
Yeah, who was that guy? It looked like he brought then entire dining set from the Titanic with him.

[beemerron]

Yeah, who was that guy? It looked like he brought then entire dining set from the Titanic with him.

And I was bummed about having to carry a cast iron skillet. At least I didn't have to worry about it breaking.

[cruizbz]

Yea, and make him ride a K bike.
I don't understand how riding a K bike will help him mature?

Riding a K bike implies that the person has some intelligence. It has been established by a vast majority that this guy is a moron and idiot of the first degree.

Remember, that you are what you ride. This person obviously enjoys running on 1/2 the cylinders of us normal people.

A GSA is butt ugly, SLOW, and likes to wallow in the mud. This person has shown 2 out of 3 of those traits.

A K bike like their owners are, good looking, sophisticated, and know how to handle our selfs.

Let's stick with time out from rallies. Even a 2 year old can be taught how to behave.

[sjbmw]

I don't understand how riding a K bike will help him mature?

Riding a K bike implies that the person has some intelligence. It has been established by a vast majority that this guy is a moron and idiot of the first degree.

Remember, that you are what you ride. This person obviously enjoys running on 1/2 the cylinders of us normal people.

A GSA is butt ugly, SLOW, and likes to wallow in the mud. This person has shown 2 out of 3 of those traits.

A K bike like their owners are, good looking, sophisticated, and know how to handle our selfs.

Let's stick with time out from rallies. Even a 2 year old can be taught how to behave.


K riders are really closet boxers, but can't cure the cylinder envy. :)

With all due respect:

1. This is America. Personal property is the owner's. If I want to feed my bike to a car compactor that is my perogative.

2. I would never touch another's motorcyle, except in a roadside emergency, or when asked. Yes, even if it was laying down. It's a simple rule I got from the Harley guys, and it works. Hands off da bike please.

3. I saw sign that said 'No Riding' and people rode right past it. I saw tent by a 'No Camping' sign. I have not read one post here complaining about that.
Where was the No Horizontal Parking sign?

Let's let this slam fest die...

[soffiler]

I don't understand how riding a K bike will help him mature? ...

It's simpler than that. A K-bike isn't partially propped up and relatively easy to pick up when it is laying down.

[soffiler]

To the rider it is self expression. So I look at his GS parking like I do with art. You see it and you like or dislike it. It does seem to be self serving to many and you are right it is an expression of the rider or artist. Many come to a Rally to show their way of the art of the rider and the zen of motorcycling. 83 plus replies on this art / self expressive form so far. Does it belong now in a museum ? It must not be hurting anything because I have seen it at two Rallys so far ? How much more shocking is it compared to the other dressed motorcycles ? The one with the watercraft sidecar for example ? Please keep the thread going this is enjoyable.

Statdawg - a similar thought occurred to me last night just before I drifted off to sleep. It's kinda like art. He's doing it specifically to create a reaction, as does the painter, sculptor, actor, musician, etc. Difference, I think, is that those artists hope to create a positive reaction (most of them, I think, anyway). They want people to enjoy their work so hopefully they'll keep coming back for more (again IMHO). Greg on the other hand appears to be going for a negative reaction, which is a bit twisted (once again IMHO).

[bluehole]

Keep this going, huh. Okay, is this art or a hate crime against a motorcycle? :) Is that a big enough grenade?

[Rollifahrer]

There is a reason for everything, although it's not always discernable. I thought people went to carnivals, fairs, bikenights and rallies to see and experience things that only happen when diverse people share a space. What Greg does with his bike and how he responds to responders is an anomally, kind of like 2-headed cats, quiet Harleys from out of state, and guys who carry wheelchairs on the back of motorcycles. This whole thread makes me glad I toured the Canadian side of Lake Superior alone instead of Vermont with 9100 percieved-by-the-public snobmobiles. Makes me want to pry the roundels off. I propose all future intolerance be directed at half naked, bar hopping, you-know-what riders with life-saving pipes rather than what has been reported to be a bright and friendly guy who dares break a norm. Actually, the universal norm is "hands off other guys' bikes", hence we can leave helmets and leathers and GPS's unattended at most restaurants and gas stations.

If you can't enjoy or at least tolerate the wierd things people do, then go where they ain't. I can't tolerate intolerance, so I ride alone on my 1100RT, or go to /5 rallies on my R65.

PS: It would be easier to put up with snobby beemer guys at big rallies if there were wheelie, burnout and/or wet T shirt contests. (Relax, that's a joke; all beemer guys aren't snobs, just he ones that...you know who you are.)

[Mika]

Visited my mother last night at the retirement community she lives in. We watched Antiques Road Show together. There was a gent that brought in a Ngombe executioner’s sword. The expert gave it one value mounted horizontally and displayed as a weapon. A different higher price was given if it was mounted vertically because then it was decorative art. Just thought I would tell you that. Interpret it as you will. Art has different values and performance art is the most difficult to understand.

If I see a GS on its side while attending the WI national I know to walk around it. If the guy with the Ngombe executioner’s sword shows up I would send him off to cut cheese wheels for the beer tent.
:drink :eat

[Rollifahrer]

Oh, one more thing:

If you didn't see it go down, or see a person or puppy trapped under it, or fluids leaking out, leave it alone. Besides, we should all know by now not to touch anything till CSI gets there.


Ahnungslosigkeit herrscht. Wer bleibt noch frei?

[Kev95GS]

I can't tolerate intolerance,...

So.... You are intolerate of intolerance?.... Hmmm :dunno

Kevin

[Belquar]

So.... You are intolerate of intolerance?.... Hmmm :dunno

Kevin

:laugh :rofl

[Rollifahrer]

Dirty Harry said: "A man has got to know his limitations."

I guess that's (one of) mine. Funny how that works.

[dmr]

Reminds me of a trip in the BWCAW. We were portaging east, a group of women were portaging west. Each group had a pile of backpacks, etc. at the beginning of the trail. Since one always returns for the second trip unladen, my friend decided to "help out" and carry a pack back for the ladies. I thought it was a bad idea at the time. He discovered it was a bad idea when he crossed paths with the other group. We had a long discussion later about why the negative reaction. :fight

Same thing here. Not yours, leave alone. I wouldn't even pet a dog on a leash without asking first. If the guy wants to leave it on the side, so what. You may think you're a good samaritan, but you may not think like everyone else.

[phil]

[QUOTE=OUTBACKUFO]The GS stands for Girth and Sustenance

Now thats funny stuff right there. I think you people here are all mad becouse you didnt think of this first. My wife said you all need a spanking.

[101905]

After taking a bit to read all the posts I thought I would put my two cents in regarding the topic.

Having known this “individual” a few years now, I honestly can’t see the reasons for all the negative talk. After all, we are all in this together by being crazy enough to buy into the BMW realm of things.

We all have our quirks, our uniqueness, our strange and eccentric behavior. But to openly bash an “individual”, with whom you have not had much interaction, is just plain wrong. He has harmed no one. The lady with the disc problem, should have known her limitations, sorry to say. Bad discs don’t appear overnight. Though, I am sorry she is hurt. However, it could have happened on the road, camping or picking her own bike up.

Personally, when I see a fallen bike I seek the owner first, with exception to it causing a safety issue. It is after all, someone else’s property.

Yes- Greg is unique, and he likes to lay his bike down on the heads. Who cares?

He likes his dirt, playing in the mud, and having fun on the bike. He could be the poster child for the GS. If the bike or he, don’t hurt anyone or damage another person's property “forget about it”, as my Jersey and New York friends would say.

Something you should know….this guy would give you the shirt off his back to help anyone of us in need. In fact, he and his wife gave shelter to a fellow without housing Saturday night.

I have seen him unselfishly give others help and time with mechanical, electrical, and technical issues for years with no reservation. He has taught a lot of folks in and out of the Detroit Club/MOA about their bikes, GPS’s, and gadgets (including myself) to make travel more fun and safe.

He is no different than the eccentric "sub-clubs", the “clicks”, or “individuals” in ourm organization that prowl this forum and are seen at every BMW rally and gathering. He makes no excuses in laying the bike down, he just does, so let it be. That is just the way he expresses himself. No different than animal ears and tails on a helmet, gluing cartoon characters on the bike, wearing dead animal pelts/antlers on helmets, or transporting a poodle, named after a late Victorian heiress, in a basket on their bike. You can accept it or ignore it. It hurts no one.

I rather ride with, and have more friends like Greg than associate with some of the shallow and belittling folks that have commented on this forum this week. Just my input.

Mark Sanford
Livonia, MI

[phil]

on the heads. Who cares


I rather ride with, and have more friends like Greg than associate with some of the shallow and belittling folks that have commented on this forum this week. Just my input.

Mark Sanford
Livonia, MI

Well said my friend...........DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER. We are all different in our own ways. Maybe you dont see it but other people do...............

[Rollifahrer]

Mark and Greg, you are both welcome at my house when visiting or riding through Columbus.

Any comments attacking your defense of Greg aren't worth reading...I'm heading over to the RT Seat thread. cya

[ironMan]

I rather ride with, and have more friends like Greg than associate with some of the shallow and belittling folks that have commented on this forum this week. Just my input.

Mark Sanford
Livonia, MI

I saw this guy at the rally and thought Hmm that’s different then bought a couple more tickets at the beer garden. It is kind of ironic that a lot members have posted about BMW loosing its soul by trying to imitate the Japanese style or how BMW is forcing the Dealers use the same carpet and all look the same then rag on some guy that does things his way. Sure he is strange but so am I.


Maybe our motto should be “Accept me Except you”

[eddie]

Been riddin for 32 yrs.anytime I see a person drop a bike or a bike that has fallen over I run to help pick the bike up.Just something I've always done,and most all ridders I know do the same.If the owner screamed or yelled at me I would be shocked.Laying the bike over on the cylinders is his business,but jumping in someones s==t who doesn't know his business and is used to picking up fallen bikes seems extreme to me because for 32 yrs. I helped pick up bikes and was always thanked by the owner for the help.I don't know him,If I did I'd probably like him.I didn't see him scream at anyone but if he did that seems kinda cruel to me.I'm sure anyone trying to pick it up was only trying to help in their mind.If I ever see a fallen GS I hope he has his signs on because I will try to right the bike.I've been to a lot of places in my HD days where screaming at someone could get you into a serious situation.If he wants to turn it upsidedown I couldn't give a rats ass.

[Rollifahrer]

Well, yea...if you SEE it fall, or some dumbass knock it over, hell yes, offer some help. Putting it down on it's head is, as you say, his business, and discouraging people from messing with is also his bis.

[PacWestGS]

OK, I can't take it any more I'm jumping in, how deep do my waders need to be? Hehehe :laugh

The natural resting position for a motorcycle is on its side, period. If you choose to place your bike on a side-stand or center-stand (like I do) great, good for you. It's a bit easier to get ready to ride again. It causes no harm to let it rest in its resting position. It's steel, aluminum, rubber and some other metals, no big deal...

If the "perception" of this man (Greg) was yelling at people after the fact that someone else (this woman) was injured while not minding her business and doing what she perceived to be a thankful service to a fallen bike, then I think everyone is missing some important point. Maybe Greg was defending his position that he chooses to leave "his" bike laying around on its side (Which is only so far for a Boxer). And, maybe the other bystanders were voicing their's first that he somehow is responsible for the injuries to this good-Samaritan.

Remember, it’s not always the first punch that the referee sees but the follow-up that everyone else sees.

I don’t know; I wasn’t there. And from the sounds of it neither were a lot of you.

I can pretty much tell when a bike fell over in the mud or soft ground. And, I think I can pretty much tell when someone has rode up and dropped their bike on the ground because they are lazy or just don’t care. Or maybe they do care but want to make a statement. In which case, I shouldn’t care about their bike either. After all it’s not mine and I probably won’t be buying it anytime soon.

You know what I like about the Rally? You can leave your camera in the tank-bag, your GPS, radio, and cell-phone on the handlebars and your key in the ignition and when you come back tomorrow it will still all be there. But doG forbid you leave your bike on it side for more than a few hours, someone will come along and pick it up for you.

This forum is really starting to get ADVrider’ish maybe that’s a good thing, maybe it’s not…?

I only have two questions?

Why was this woman trying to pick up an R1150GS by herself? Is it because she just got done learning how somewhere else? And, thought she could do it?

And,

Why is it anyone’s business how Greg wants to park his bike?

So what if he wants or is looking for attention! You all have dedicated 80 replies to some guy that treats his bike differently.

I drop mine (not just the R1150GS) all the time, they fall over, they’re bikes…

I don’t know what the problem is? :stick

Russ

[eddie]

Well, yea...if you SEE it fall, or some dumbass knock it over, hell yes, offer some help. Putting it down on it's head is, as you say, his business, and discouraging people from messing with is also his bis.

I'm not saying its not his business if he dosen't want it picked up.I'm saying if I'm walking around and see a fallen bike my natural reaction is to pick it up Wheither I see it fall or not.In all my years I've never seen anyone park by lying the bike on its side.I have no problem with him parking that way,just not something I've ever seen.If I did see one on its side my natural thought would be, jee that riders bike has fallen over.I mean how silly is it for people to see it and not know it was parked that way on purpose,doesn't everone park their bike that way,you silly people.

[Rollifahrer]

Minor point, is a motorcycle "parked" on its side really parked? It's like a "...the unlikely event of a water landing" for an airplane; it's not a landing; it's a crash.

Maybe a bike on its side LOOKS like a crash, but in the absence of skid marks, broken glass, blood and/or body parts, one should consider there may be other reasons for it being so and refrain from intervening until certain action is appropriate and needed. Otherwise ponder and proceed.

[kbasa]

Minor point, is a motorcycle "parked" on its side really parked? It's like a "...the unlikely event of a water landing" for an airplane; it's not a landing; it's a crash.

Maybe a bike on its side LOOKS like a crash, but in the absence of skid marks, broken glass, blood and/or body parts, one should consider there may be other reasons for it being so and refrain from intervening until certain action is appropriate and needed. Otherwise ponder and proceed.

I saw a metric cruiser laying on its side in front of a store the other day. I helped the guy pick it up after someone rousted him out of the restaurant.

No broken glass, blood or anything, but clearly not how it was intended to be parked.

As we were picking it up, two teens came over and gave the guy a description of the car that knocked it over.

[Belquar]

Minor point, is a motorcycle "parked" on its side really parked? It's like a "...the unlikely event of a water landing" for an airplane; it's not a landing; it's a crash.

Maybe a bike on its side LOOKS like a crash, but in the absence of skid marks, broken glass, blood and/or body parts, one should consider there may be other reasons for it being so and refrain from intervening until certain action is appropriate and needed. Otherwise ponder and proceed.

So if I see a plane floating in the water...no skid marks, no broken glass, yada yada yada...just out of the ordinary to see a plane in the water I shouldn't do anything to intervene? Maybe the pilot wanted it there? Personally I would rather go try and help and potentially get "yelled" at for helping than not do anything. Same thing for any other out of the ordinary situation. If it is potentially hazardous or damaging I am likely going to stick my nose in possibly where it doesn't belong.

I didn't see this wonderment at the Rally. So I can only speculate as to what went on. But if there was no signage and people were trying to help and he yelled. He is a jerk. Once there was signage...if he yelled...well I guess he had a right but he is still a jerk for looking for a fight. It is only natural for 9099 people who park there motorcycle in its intended fashion to want to put one upright if they see it down. Just like if we saw someone's wallet or keys or cellphone just laying on the ground being walked around. We would pick it up and turn it in to lost and found or try and locate the owner and not just assume that they meant to leave it there.

[Rollifahrer]

Whoops, I thought the blood and body parts would be a clue I was using a bit of hyperbole to make a point.

From the airline's (or FAA's) perspective, it might make sense to use the expesression "water landing" for a gazzillion ton comercial airliner making an unscheduled stop in the Atlantic Ocean, but when given some thought it's absurd.

It may be absurd to everyone except Greg to lay a GS on its side. It doesn't make sense to use an oxymoron in a preflight safety spiel, but they must have a reason. Maybe Greg has a reason, maybe its absurd, but it's his bike, it's their plane, it's our organization. Isn't there room for sideways bikes?

The wallet and keys on the ground point is pretty good, but how do we know for sure whether leaving keys in ignitions is intentional. Do-gooders running all the keys they find to L&F would create chaos. But it's a "Rally" you say? And you can do things like leave your keys and helmet and GPS unattended, allday, overnight, all weekend. Yes, it's a rally, and you might do things you don't normally do, AND be exposed to people who do things you don't normally do.

[phil]

you get a spanking if you pick up the art work ? Cut off the ear so we can listen.

Wife said your the first in line shes giving you a spanking next time she sees you. Just drop trow she will have her large mixing spoon with her.

[Stuff2C]

Originally Posted by 76650
Absolutely nothing personal, but you should poop more often....

My favorite quote ever...certinately applies to this entire thread
! :ha

[soffiler]

... It is only natural for 9099 people who park there motorcycle in its intended fashion to want to put one upright if they see it down. Just like if we saw someone's wallet or keys or cellphone just laying on the ground being walked around. We would pick it up and turn it in to lost and found or try and locate the owner and not just assume that they meant to leave it there...

This one hits the nail squarely on the head, for me anyway. Natural reaction; human nature. Face it, folks: as motorcyclists, the vast majority of us spend the vast majority of our time trying to keep it upright.

Laying down a motorcycle to park it is simply unnatural. It's going to create different reactions in different people but it IS going to create a reaction. Either the reaction is precisely what Greg is after (those of you that know him personally haven't commented yet as to exactly *why*) and if that's not his reason, then at the very least, he certainly should not be surprised that he's getting a reaction anyway.

[BeemoKat]

Greg is a nice guy. I have asked him more than once, point blank, face-to-face why he parks that way, in fact even pointed out that it takes 2 bike spaces (a problem in Ann Arbor), and still haven't gotten any reasonable answer. He just changes the subject, and I just find other things to do and other people to talk to.

[Rollifahrer]

I think Dave makes the point pefectly!

1. Consider context/circumstances (cruiser in front of restaurant v. GS at rally)

2. If it's not obvious, ask (the kids saw what happened)

3. Look for the owner (rousted out of restaurant)

No, I don't mean go traipsing around the whole rally site; I mean ask a few people sitting in the shade nearby, for example, if they know why a GS is on its side, and whether anyone knows where the owner is.

If you percieve a saftey issue or some other reason to touch another guy's bike, do so at risk of not being appreciated, but don't vilify the guy who exercises his right to do things differently AND chooses to defend that right even if it makes him look like a "jerk, moron, *******, idiot" ...to some observers.

It's not always apropriate to try to "help".



As for skidmarks at airplane "water landing" sites: please don't mix my metaphors. "Landing" an airliner on water is a crash; a bike on its side looks like a crash. Easy to understand why people WANT to "help"; hard to understand why people don't a) assess b) think c) ask before doing so. Even harder to understand why some posters need to call this guys names and advocate banning him from rallies.

(FYI: I'm a 50 yo "novice" due to taking 25 years off after a crash (a real one). New to BMW, new to MOA, new to rallies, new to forums. Didn't go to Vermont partly because I get the willies around huge numbers of bikes. After participating in this thread, I wonder: is it all the bikes or the people there that give the vibe I don't belong. No problem, I'll take my own advice from an earlier post and "...go where other people aint." Luckily, I chose to own beemers and can go alone and make it back in peace and relative comfort. So if you see a gray RT with a wheelchair on it or under the rider, and you're not a bigotted, intolerant *******, by all means stop and chew the fat. And if you see my bike on its side PLEASE help me pick it up, but don't EVER touch my wheelchair without asking. Some people do things differently because they must, others because they choose. Everyone's ride is different...so relax and enjoy.)

[eddie]

Yes,and if any of you see a 03 gray/green GT with Kentucky plates lying on it side I would really appreciate it if you would pick it up please.Many,many thanks ahead of time in case I'm not around when you right it for me.

[Emoto]

If any of you see me tipped over on my side, would you please pour me another one?

Thanks!

:drink

[Mika]

If any of you see me tipped over on my side, would you please pour me another one?

Thanks!

:drink
Only if you have a sign telling us to pour another. Lacking that I'm calling CSI :bolt

[TheDogFahted]

I was there, at least for some of it. I saw samaritans trying to pick up his bike for him and the subsequent yelling.

I was on my way over to help them pick up the bike when the owner ran back, screaming like the bike was being stolen. I was shocked. According to his instructions, they lay the bike back down. One of them, a rally volunteer, told him to put a sign on it, lest someone else try to pick it up or security remove him and the problem from the rally entirely. There wasn't a sign at the time, if I recall correctly, and I believe there were several of these instances before the warnings were put on.

I asked him, "Just out of curiosity, why do you park it like that?" He said, "It's my bike. That's the way I park it." Confused by the lack of an answer, I just stated that I too had a GS, but I never parked it like that.

The bottom line: if you want to park your bike like an idiot you are free to do so--it's pretty obvious this is an attention-getting "Mr. Rugged Cool Guy" gimmick---but being surprised and/or angry when passersby repeatedly attempt to lift the bike slips from the realm of idiocy into mental illness, perhaps severe retardation. I don't care how nice the guy is elsewhere, how many shirts he's given off his back, how many people he's sheltered, or how considerate he is when leading group rides. The behavior I witnessed that day was totally uncalled for, unbalanced, anti-social, showed poor judgment and asked for trouble.

Almost as shocking, some other members here have suspended their own good judgement by posting Whaaa-grams about the "intolerance" for Mr. Cool Guy's ways. "I wanted to tear my roundels off" and so forth. Please, give us a break. We all know there is nothing wrong with laying down a GS, and Mr. Rugged Cool Guy is obviously getting the attention he so desperately sought, even if it isn't coming from starstruck, sighing, teenage girls. This issue at hand is his psychosis. And the danger it poses to normal, yes, NORMAL people who are trying to help.

It never ceases to amaze me how uncommon common sense is. Unbelievable! One day I'll just throw in the towel. I probably shouldn't have turned in that wedding ring I found at the gym. That women who rear-ended my wife at a red light was correct to get out of her car and start yelling at her. I'll never push an unattended, empty shopping cart back to its proper storage place. After all, you never know.

[PacWestGS]

I was there, at least for some of it. I saw samaritans trying to pick up his bike for him and the subsequent yelling.

I was on my way over to help them pick up the bike when the owner ran back, screaming like the bike was being stolen. I was shocked. According to his instructions, they lay the bike back down. One of them, a rally volunteer, told him to put a sign on it, lest someone else try to pick it up or security remove him and the problem from the rally entirely. There wasn't a sign at the time, if I recall correctly, and I believe there were several of these instances before the warnings were put on.

I asked him, "Just out of curiosity, why do you park it like that?" He said, "It's my bike. That's the way I park it." Confused by the lack of an answer, I just stated that I too had a GS, but I never parked it like that.

The bottom line: if you want to park your bike like an idiot you are free to do so--it's pretty obvious this is an attention-getting "Mr. Rugged Cool Guy" gimmick---but being surprised and/or angry when passersby repeatedly attempt to lift the bike slips from the realm of idiocy into mental illness, perhaps severe retardation. I don't care how nice the guy is elsewhere, how many shirts he's given off his back, how many people he's sheltered, or how considerate he is when leading group rides. The behavior I witnessed that day was totally uncalled for, unbalanced, anti-social, showed poor judgment and asked for trouble.

Almost as shocking, some other members here have suspended their own good judgement by posting Whaaa-grams about the "intolerance" for Mr. Cool Guy's ways. "I wanted to tear my roundels off" and so forth. Please, give us a break. We all know there is nothing wrong with laying down a GS, and Mr. Rugged Cool Guy is obviously getting the attention he so desperately sought, even if it isn't coming from starstruck, sighing, teenage girls. This issue at hand is his psychosis. And the danger it poses to normal, yes, NORMAL people who are trying to help.

It never ceases to amaze me how uncommon common sense is. Unbelievable! One day I'll just throw in the towel. I probably shouldn't have turned in that wedding ring I found at the gym. That women who rear-ended my wife at a red light was correct to get out of her car and start yelling at her. I'll never push an unattended, empty shopping cart back to its proper storage place. After all, you never know.

Thanks DogFart, puts some of this into perspective....

You're right somethings don't make sense until seen full view...

[Emoto]

What happens if your owner yells at me ? :doh

I promise to only shout good things about you in this circumstance.

[Emoto]

Hey, I wonder if the guy who owns that bike we're discussing has seen this thread.

If so, I wish he would comment so that we can understand what it is he is trying to do. :stick

Unless there is a sign on it, I may pick it up and put it on the sidestand next time I see it. I will ignore any yelling until the task is completed, and if accosted will ask for proof of ownership before listening, and will then tell him he can put it back down on its side himself. :D

Oh... just an evil little though:

Rules for Wisconsin Rally

All motorcycles on the premises must be parked on the main or side stands when not being ridden.

:laugh

[sjbmw]

I was there, at least for some of it. I saw samaritans trying to pick up his bike for him and the subsequent yelling.

I was on my way over to help them pick up the bike when the owner ran back, screaming like the bike was being stolen. I was shocked. According to his instructions, they lay the bike back down. One of them, a rally volunteer, told him to put a sign on it, lest someone else try to pick it up or security remove him and the problem from the rally entirely. There wasn't a sign at the time, if I recall correctly, and I believe there were several of these instances before the warnings were put on.

I asked him, "Just out of curiosity, why do you park it like that?" He said, "It's my bike. That's the way I park it." Confused by the lack of an answer, I just stated that I too had a GS, but I never parked it like that.

The bottom line: if you want to park your bike like an idiot you are free to do so--it's pretty obvious this is an attention-getting "Mr. Rugged Cool Guy" gimmick---but being surprised and/or angry when passersby repeatedly attempt to lift the bike slips from the realm of idiocy into mental illness, perhaps severe retardation. I don't care how nice the guy is elsewhere, how many shirts he's given off his back, how many people he's sheltered, or how considerate he is when leading group rides. The behavior I witnessed that day was totally uncalled for, unbalanced, anti-social, showed poor judgment and asked for trouble.

Almost as shocking, some other members here have suspended their own good judgement by posting Whaaa-grams about the "intolerance" for Mr. Cool Guy's ways. "I wanted to tear my roundels off" and so forth. Please, give us a break. We all know there is nothing wrong with laying down a GS, and Mr. Rugged Cool Guy is obviously getting the attention he so desperately sought, even if it isn't coming from starstruck, sighing, teenage girls. This issue at hand is his psychosis. And the danger it poses to normal, yes, NORMAL people who are trying to help.

It never ceases to amaze me how uncommon common sense is. Unbelievable! One day I'll just throw in the towel. I probably shouldn't have turned in that wedding ring I found at the gym. That women who rear-ended my wife at a red light was correct to get out of her car and start yelling at her. I'll never push an unattended, empty shopping cart back to its proper storage place. After all, you never know.

Psychosis vs. Normal people?

I walked past that bike many times. Before it was labeled "Do Not LIft", and after. The thought of picking it up never entered my mind. Know why?
IT DIDN'T BELONG TO ME. IT WAS NOT MY PROPERTY.

If they ever pass a mind your own business law in this country, many will do hard time.

[phil]

Psychosis vs. Normal people?


If they ever pass a mind your own business law in this country, many will do hard time.

Thats a keeper.............

[BoxerTwin]

Knowing what I now know about this guy, I'd pick it up just to piss him off.

[Belquar]

Psychosis vs. Normal people?

I walked past that bike many times. Before it was labeled "Do Not LIft", and after. The thought of picking it up never entered my mind. Know why?
IT DIDN'T BELONG TO ME. IT WAS NOT MY PROPERTY.

If they ever pass a mind your own business law in this country, many will do hard time.

If you saw a kid playing with a ball and said ball went bouncing onto a busy highway and said kid was chasing after his/her ball would you keep on walking and "mind your own business" or would you step in to protect that child and his/her property. Just sayin'

You can say the circumstances are different and totally don't relate but just as they are different so are people's perceptions. Many saw what they perceived to be a problematic situation, that if presented to the other 9099 in attendance would probably find gratitude for the assistance.

Just sayin'

[sjbmw]

If you saw a kid playing with a ball and said ball went bouncing onto a busy highway and said kid was chasing after his/her ball would you keep on walking and "mind your own business" or would you step in to protect that child and his/her property. Just sayin'

You can say the circumstances are different and totally don't relate but just as they are different so are people's perceptions. Many saw what they perceived to be a problematic situation, that if presented to the other 9099 in attendance would probably find gratitude for the assistance.

Just sayin'

Puh-leeze. I stood there and laughed at the bike. So did my son.
Now it's escalated to children in danger? Let's stop reaching and admit our weaknesses here.

The guy treats a finely engineered bike like a sickly pack mule and it pi$$es us off. His utter disregard for what we hold so sacred is an abomination.

Well, it's only nuts and bolts and metal and liquids and plastic. And it's HIS.

[Belquar]

Puh-leeze. I stood there and laughed at the bike. So did my son.
Now it's escalated to children in danger? Let's stop reaching and admit our weaknesses here.

The guy treats a finely engineered bike like a sickly pack mule and it pi$$es us off. His utter disregard for what we hold so sacred is an abomination.

Well, it's only nuts and bolts and metal and liquids and plastic. And it's HIS.

True. And I could care less what he does with it. But there is a reason why good samaritans are protected under the law. They are doing a good deed. 9000+ would have thanked the person helping. Not yelled. Had I been the one doing the lifting and was approached by an enraged owner....I would have dropped it spot on. This guy is free to do with his bike as he pleases. I have not said otherwise in this thread, but being a jerk is being a jerk. Yelling at people is being a jerk. He could have just as easily walked up and said...

"Thanks for trying to help, but I like to park my bike this way. Please don't lift it in the future and if you see anyone else trying, do me a favor and pass on my feelings on the subject. Thanks again for trying to help.

[Belquar]

And I also pointed out how different the circumstances were. But was using them as an analogy for perceptions people have.

[TheDogFahted]

Psychosis vs. Normal people?

I walked past that bike many times. Before it was labeled "Do Not LIft", and after. The thought of picking it up never entered my mind. Know why?
IT DIDN'T BELONG TO ME. IT WAS NOT MY PROPERTY.

If they ever pass a mind your own business law in this country, many will do hard time.

You are obviously devoted to helping elevate society bit by bit. What an upstanding community member (member, at the very least)! I hope my children model their behavior after you.

[sjbmw]

You are obviously devoted to helping elevate society bit by bit. What an upstanding community member (member, at the very least)! I hope my children model their behavior after you.


"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

[TheDogFahted]

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

That proverb implies it is the failure to follow through on good intentions that puts people in Hell. In other words, there is nothing wrong with well-intentioned actions, but intending to do something "one day" does no good at all.

I seriously doubt anyone is on their way to Hell for picking up this idiot's bike. He, however, is probably not earning points by yellling at samaritans. Passersby who hide behind the excuse, "It's not my property and not my business" probably aren't flush with kudos either--it's akin to thinking "Not my problem."

[sjbmw]

That proverb implies it is the failure to follow through on good intentions that puts people in Hell. In other words, there is nothing wrong with well-intentioned actions, but intending to do something "one day" does no good at all.

I seriously doubt anyone is on their way to Hell for picking up this idiot's bike. He, however, is probably not earning points by yellling at samaritans. Passersby who hide behind the excuse, "It's not my property and not my business" probably aren't flush with kudos either--it's akin to thinking "Not my problem."

EXACTLY! NOT MY PROBLEM!

Here is news for you: Not your either.

Motorcycle laying on it's side seems to evoke a LOT of emotions.
To the point that people can't stop themselves, they will appoint themselves morality police just to get it upright.

Seems since I don't care if a bike is vertical or horizontal makes me a lousy citizen determined to undo all the gains of western civilization.
(Sure screaming is out of line, I'll give ya that)

Exactly what about it makes people take ownership of this new problem?
Is it our passion for motorcycles? The fact that it's defined as a problem for everyone except the owner is intreresting.

We should do a candid camera in Wisconsin.
Have a "do not touch" sign next to a horizontal bike (let's pick a 650 so no one gets hurt) and see how many obsessive compulsives we can identify.

[kbasa]

People tried to pick it up, because it was what they hoped someone would do if their bike was laying on its side.

I'd call that either courtesy or neighborliness, not being nosy.

[soffiler]

... The fact that it's defined as a problem for everyone except the owner is intreresting [sic]....

Not only interesting, that's actually one of the definitions of "insane".

[Belquar]

Yeah...what was that we were taught when we were young....

I believe it was called the golden rule...

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Goes a long way in life. If more people adhered to this proverb there would be far fewer problems in this world.

[Belquar]

. . . We should do a candid camera in Wisconsin.
Have a "do not touch" sign next to a horizontal bike (let's pick a 650 so no one gets hurt) and see how many obsessive compulsives we can identify.

From what I have read I believe the signage did not appear on the bike until after numerous attempts at righting the bike and as many instances of the owner yelling at do gooders.

You lambasted my comment about the children. Let me put it another way....I am driving down your street in Jersey. Your house is on fire. No one is home, or maybe someone is and they are inside dying...but for the sake of keeping it just to property I will go with no one home. Now....lets say for the sake of argument that your house is in the middle of nowhere. Nothing around is going to get damaged or destroyed except your house. And I stand there and laugh my a$$ of at your misfortune. Just sit there and maybe even roast some marshmellows as your home, motorcycles, memories, and everything else burns to a crisp. Would you just walk up and pat me on the back and say....Hey...thanks for not calling the fire department, after all it isn't your business that my home is destroyed. I think not.

[fauster]

snip....We should do a candid camera in Wisconsin.
Have a "do not touch" sign next to a horizontal bike (let's pick a 650 so no one gets hurt) and see how many obsessive compulsives we can identify.

If I find MY F650 on its side, someone WILL get hurt! :fight

[sjbmw]

From what I have read I believe the signage did not appear on the bike until after numerous attempts at righting the bike and as many instances of the owner yelling at do gooders.

You lambasted my comment about the children. Let me put it another way....I am driving down your street in Jersey. Your house is on fire. No one is home, or maybe someone is and they are inside dying...but for the sake of keeping it just to property I will go with no one home. Now....lets say for the sake of argument that your house is in the middle of nowhere. Nothing around is going to get damaged or destroyed except your house. And I stand there and laugh my a$$ of at your misfortune. Just sit there and maybe even roast some marshmellows as your home, motorcycles, memories, and everything else burns to a crisp. Would you just walk up and pat me on the back and say....Hey...thanks for not calling the fire department, after all it isn't your business that my home is destroyed. I think not.


Now the bike is the equivlalent of a house fire. If there was a BODY laying next to the bike I would buy this premise. :stick :p

[Belquar]

Now the bike is the equivlalent of a house fire. If there was a BODY laying next to the bike I would buy this premise. :stick :p

Your not reading the post. You are taking what you want from it. You make my point about perceptions brilliantly. A house, a bike, a ball, a wallet. It is all just property. If you need me to make an analogy with the bike...

change the house fire to your bike being on fire and see me there roasting marshmellows and laughing. :laugh

[sjbmw]

Your not reading the post. You are taking what you want from it. You make my point about perceptions brilliantly. A house, a bike, a ball, a wallet. It is all just property. If you need me to make an analogy with the bike...

change the house fire to your bike being on fire and see me there roasting marshmellows and laughing. :laugh

You are not reading the situation. We all could manufacture hypotheticals and analogies of doom and gloom, and not one will come close to situation concerning the bike laying on the grass in front of the showers. There was no emergency. There was no danger. There was only a bike sitting in a position in opposition to the status quo. It is the perception and supposition that somehow a bike laying on it's side on a lawn with a thousand bikes parked nearby (not on the side of the road of course, I'll head the next emergency analogy off at the pass) denotes an emergency, is the error here.

Bike that are erroneously laying on their sides have clues that provide context. A injured rider, and rider asking for help to pick it up, et al.

Since we are using analogies, how about the bike was leaking gas from the left side and laying it on it's right side prevented a mishap and fire until the owner could run and get his tools. I walk up on the bike with no information, and pick it up, and I get cooked. See what I mean?

The problem is we make assumptions, and they are not always right. And when we are wrong, it's not someone else's fault.

[BoxerTwin]

600(+) lb motorcycle laying on its side = not normal

person trying to pick up said bike to return it to its usual position = normal

person yelling at good samaritan for picking up the bike = not normal

can we agree on this?

[Belquar]

You are not reading the situation. We all could manufacture hypotheticals and analogies of doom and gloom, and not one will come close to situation concerning the bike laying on the grass in front of the showers. There was no emergency. There was no danger. There was only a bike sitting in a position in opposition to the status quo. It is the perception and supposition that somehow a bike laying on it's side on a lawn with a thousand bikes parked nearby (not on the side of the road of course, I'll head the next emergency analogy off at the pass) denotes an emergency, is the error here.

Bike that are erroneously laying on their sides have clues that provide context. A injured rider, and rider asking for help to pick it up, et al.

Since we are using analogies, how about the bike was leaking gas from the left side and laying it on it's right side prevented a mishap and fire until the owner could run and get his tools. I walk up on the bike with no information, and pick it up, and I get cooked. See what I mean?

The problem is we make assumptions, and they are not always right. And when we are wrong, it's not someone else's fault.

You again make my point about perceptions. Who is to say that those folks didn't think the bike was laying on its side erroneously. Who is to say that your house burning down is an emergency. After all it is only yours. There is not danger letting it burn to the ground.

My point for bringing it up is because you said you and your son stood there and laughed at the situation. Now...without making assumptions....if you laughed at the bike after the guy wrote all over it then yeah...pretty funny. If you laughed because you thought it was funny that people who were trying to help got yelled at or you were laughing and teaching your child to laugh at the misfortune of others then you should be the subject of the lambasting.

Like I said before...I don't care how the guy parks his bike. I think it definitely rubs a lot of folks here the wrong way. But it shouldn't. Because you are right. It is his to do with as he pleases. I think this thread is about and has been about the way the guy treated folks who tried to help in a situation that was perceived by them at the time to warrant the help of a friendly passers by.

IMVHO

[RustyJC]

Bike that are erroneously laying on their sides have clues that provide context. A injured rider, and rider asking for help to pick it up, et al. Not necessarily. The bike could have been pushed over or rolled off its sidestand when the rider was absent. In either case, the bike is not on its side by design.

Rusty

[TheDogFahted]

Would you pick up a f*cking fork lying in the middle of the floor? Sounds like you wouldn't.

In any case, you'd better do an investigation of the premises to make absolutely sure it is there "erroneously".

Oh, forget it, you model citizen you! It's "not your problem", as you say. Just go forth, teach the children, teach them well. We're well on our way to building a better society.

But seriously, folks, all sarcasm aside, I think sjbmw knows deep down that his position is ridiculous. He is, however, afraid to lose face, hence the superanalogy in which we all burst into flames (flames similar to those found in the Hell of Good Intentions, of course) for picking up a bike.

I challenge anyone to beat my fork analogy!

[soffiler]

600(+) lb motorcycle laying on its side = not normal

person trying to pick up said bike to return it to its usual position = normal

person yelling at good samaritan for picking up the bike = not normal

can we agree on this?


You've got agreement from me.

But it probably isn't going to help. The other side of this debate is just going to say "what is normal?" and "why be normal?"

[soffiler]

Right off the top of my head, I can think of three reasons the bike doesn't "belong" on its side, mechanical issues, separatable from the intentions/artistic expressions of the owner:

1) fuel leaking from the gas cap, on ground or filling charcoal canister
2) oil getting into the crankcase breather
3) battery acid spillage

Not all of these necessarily apply specifically to the GS. First of all it's a boxer and doesn't really lean all that far over. Maybe beyond that the owner has taken various precautions such that none of these are actual problems (gel battery, etc). They are still problems in the sense of a generic motorcycle. These are a few of the reasons a generic motorcycle simply doesn't belong on its side; rational reasons why it is not NORMAL.

[sjbmw]

Would you pick up a f*cking fork lying in the middle of the floor? Sounds like you wouldn't.

In any case, you'd better do an investigation of the premises to make absolutely sure it is there "erroneously".

Oh, forget it, you model citizen you! It's "not your problem", as you say. Just go forth, teach the children, teach them well. We're well on our way to building a better society.

But seriously, folks, all sarcasm aside, I think sjbmw knows deep down that his position is ridiculous. He is, however, afraid to lose face, hence the superanalogy in which we all burst into flames (flames similar to those found in the Hell of Good Intentions, of course) for picking up a bike.

I challenge anyone to beat my fork analogy!

Unless it was laying on my kitchen floor, no, the fork stays :)
And I don't touch other people's motorcycles.
If that is abnormal or ridiculous, so be it.

[afijoe]

This guy he is from Mich and I 've seen him doing that at alot of BMW Rallys,we named him "Pants"(not Skirt) cause he always picks his bike up showing others how. All in fun ,but seeing people picking it up is hillarious thinking it fell over. He finally wrote on it in Majik Marker " dont pick me up". :D

[BoxerTwin]

You've got agreement from me.

But it probably isn't going to help. The other side of this debate is just going to say "what is normal?" and "why be normal?"
True; no accounting for the intentionally asinine.

[dancogan]

True; no accounting for the intentionally asinine.
Ah, yes. We are reaching new heights, both in intelligence and in tolerance. Isn't it time to decide we're not going to decide anything in this thread and just let it die?

[eddie]

600(+) lb motorcycle laying on its side = not normal

person trying to pick up said bike to return it to its usual position = normal

person yelling at good samaritan for picking up the bike = not normal

can we agree on this?


I agree,thats the way its been for me for 32yrs.of ridding.And like I said earlier I couldn't give a rats ass If he turns it upside down.And one of these days the yelling at someone is gona bite him square in the mouth.Surely this rally isn't the first time someone has tried to pick up his bike,so why didn't he have a sign on it from the beginning???If he had the sign from the git-go he wouldn't have had to yell at anyone.I do wonder if he has ever picked up someones fallen bike in his years of ridding? Like an earlier post said he could of handled the situation politely instead of standing around waiting for someone to yell at.Sheeeesh people.I don't think anyone really cares if he parks it on its side.One of these days he will be famous and all us nit wits will know thats the famous guy who parks his bike on its side.Maybe we can get an autograph.

[PacWestGS]

Does the fork have a weener, :kbasa (whiner) on it, does it meet the 10-second rule? :eat

:beer :lurk

:buds

[TheDogFahted]

Ah, yes. We are reaching new heights, both in intelligence and in tolerance. Isn't it time to decide we're not going to decide anything in this thread and just let it die?


Awww... but it's so much fun to hate! :cry

[The_Veg]

Well, lessee...let's assume that everyone is wrong for messing with his property.

He's still a jerk for how he handled it, since he basically baited them into thier behaviour. I say this because he was apparently always waiting to pounce.

I wonder what he'd do if instead of picking his bike up, someone peed in his gas tank.

[Mika]

I am still stuck back on the performance art idea, which has me wondering if this thread was a predicted part of the performance? I am intrigued by performance art but am not certain I want to be a part of it.

Let's see: for WI in 2007 must remember to walk around the GS laying on its side and if I see Emoto tipped on his side pour another beer in him. Emoto is that a dark or light beer?

Oh yah somewhere along the line I am suppose to call CSI. :brow

[Emoto]

Let's see: for WI in 2007 must remember to walk around the GS laying on its side and if I see Emoto tipped on his side pour another beer in him. Emoto is that a dark or light beer?

At that stage, any beer will do. :)

Here's another anaolgy:

You're walking along in a parking lot and you pass a car with the dirver's window down and the headlights left on. Would you reach in and turn off the lights? You wouldn't have to open the door or anything, just reach in. I might.

[Mika]

:thumb

[PacWestGS]

What if *this car* had a flat tire, and the trunk was open, and the spare tire was just sitting there, with all the tools to fix it.

Would you stop and fix this persons flat tire? I mean after all she might be a little old lady that was searching for a real man to fix her flat tire.

And you never know until you stop to help that she ran over some damn fork that was in the road, while swerving to miss a ball.

And to think that you saved her from a dead battery too because she went off looking for a nice person and left the lights on....

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:hide :beer

[Belquar]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Belquar]

What if *this car* had a flat tire, and the trunk was open, and the spare tire was just sitting there, with all the tools to fix it.

Would you stop and fix this persons flat tire? I mean after all she might be a little old lady that was searching for a real man to fix her flat tire.

And you never know until you stop to help that she ran over some damn fork that was in the road, while swerving to miss a ball.

And to think that you saved her from a dead battery too because she went off looking for a nice person and left the lights on....

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:hide :beer

If it was South Jersey you would kick the old lady in the teeth. Laugh at her. Get the kids in the area to join in the fun. Take the fork out of the flat tire and stab the spare with it. Steal the jack and tire iron. If the window was open you would then open the doors and turn on the radio open the glove box and turn on the vanity lights to cause maximum drain on the battery. Find the little kids ball and attempt to give it back, only right before the kid gets his/her hands on it you throw it back out onto the highway and laugh as the kid plays frogger trying to catch the ball. Then walk away laughing. When you see the nice man coming over to help with the tire....you smile and tell him to fuggettaboutit, you just took care of everything. :stick :stick :stick

[mike cousino]

Well, lessee...let's assume that everyone is wrong for messing with his property.

He's still a jerk for how he handled it, since he basically baited them into thier behaviour. I say this because he was apparently always waiting to pounce.

I wonder what he'd do if instead of picking his bike up, someone peed in his gas tank.

I dare him to lay his GS down at a HD rally. I have a picture in my mind of what would happen. ;)

[eddie]

I dare him to lay his GS down at a HD rally. I have a picture in my mind of what would happen. ;)

Better yet yelling at someone at an HD rally.

[PacWestGS]

I dare him to lay his GS down at a HD rally. I have a picture in my mind of what would happen. ;)

If I remember correctly, sledge-hammers and baseball bats are in order... :doh

[Mika]

If I remember correctly, sledge-hammers and baseball bats are in order... :doh
Something else also...If I could only remember...oh yeah: A Zippo lighter. :laugh

[wuli959]

http://wulimaster.smugmug.com/photos/86586696-S-1.jpg

:D

[Sue]

Now THAT was funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
:rofl

[Sue]

Hey - at least when mine is laying on its side, it got there HONESTLY. (And I am usually looking furtively around to see if anyone saw me, as I yank it up... forgetting the proper "SKERT" method. )

uhg

:D

[Pat Carol]

Well here are my final thoughts of this thread. The gentleman that sets his bike on it's side is no more than an attention whore than a few of the responders to this thread. For those of you that insulted my friend, SHAME ON YOU.
Greg is a very smart, sincere and intelligent person. His lovely wife Rhonda is a a very beautiful sweet lady. I am very disappointed that fellow MOA members would take such cheap shots at someone that they do not know.
For those of you that insulted Greg, an apology should be given. You passed judgement on someone you do not know. Please try to understand that the MOA is a diverse group with a common interest, BMW MOTORCYCLES.
Greg and his wife attended a small club get together at our home last weekend. I was proud that Greg set his bike on it's side.

From the words of Rodney King; Why can't we all just get along?

Sincerely
Pat Carol

[Fritzc]

Mr. "Lay the bike down" Greg rode his bike through Detroit traffic 90 miles to my house yesterday and spent Six hours helping me to learn how to use my new Garmin Street Pilot. Greg refused to take anything other than a sandwich, a cookie, a glass of milk and a scoop of potato salad for his efforts. He then rode his bike back 90 miles through the rush hour traffic home. That's the kind of guy he is. I am certain he will have a big bright sign at the next rally telling you all his bike is okay and you don't have to pick it up as he was unaware it would cause such a stir.
I notified my neighbor that if he saw a bike laying on its side in my driveway that it did not fall over and there was no need to pick it up as it did not fall! It is difficult for me to understand the venomous attacks on this young man with one or two eccentricies. Perhaps it could be embarrassing to try to help someone who really needs no help! I could understand that. It took me years to stop telling people to turn their headlights off when many autos today have lights that shut off automatically then the owners smugly offer that "They go off by themselves!" Now I just ignore them. A lady at church had her battery run down on her car as no one would warn her they were on and she didn't turn them off because she borrowed her husbands car that day which did not have auto shut off like hers did.
:bikes

[Belquar]

Mr. "Lay the bike down" Greg rode his bike through Detroit traffic 90 miles to my house yesterday and spent Six hours helping me to learn how to use my new Garmin Street Pilot. Greg refused to take anything other than a sandwich, a cookie, a glass of milk and a scoop of potato salad for his efforts. He then rode his bike back 90 miles through the rush hour traffic home. That's the kind of guy he is. I am certain he will have a big bright sign at the next rally telling you all his bike is okay and you don't have to pick it up as he was unaware it would cause such a stir.
I notified my neighbor that if he saw a bike laying on its side in my driveway that it did not fall over and there was no need to pick it up as it did not fall! It is difficult for me to understand the venomous attacks on this young man with one or two eccentricies. Perhaps it could be embarrassing to try to help someone who really needs no help! I could understand that. It took me years to stop telling people to turn their headlights off when many autos today have lights that shut off automatically then the owners smugly offer that "They go off by themselves!" Now I just ignore them. A lady at church had her battery run down on her car as no one would warn her they were on and she didn't turn them off because she borrowed her husbands car that day which did not have auto shut off like hers did.
:bikes

Just my observation....I believe the venemous attacks....while reminiscent of more immature times....were delivered with a similar venom that was delivered to do gooders who thought they were helping. I am sure everyone here believes that Greg is a nice enough guy outside of this particular situation but this situation that has generated such response begs a different opinion for many.

My .02

[beemerron]

The bike was on it's side in front of the Hospitality Tent. There were folks inside the tent, some of them volunteers. Do gooders come upon a bike on it's side, they don't see it fall and don't ask anyone in the tent about it? They try to right the bike that is not leaing fluids or is any immediate threat.

I can not imagine an ounce of venom in Greg. I can imagine a gruff or Dutch uncle response and I can imagine frustration that people won't leave his damn bike alone.

[beemerron]

The Greg GS camp waited till there were a 170 responses ?

I am member of the "Greg GS camp" who first jumped in on this subject at post 42 (Fritz 35 and Dan 48).

[Emoto]

I can imagine frustration that people won't leave his damn bike alone.

I am reminded of an old japanese saying:

"The standing nail is soon hammered flat."

Translated for context, this means:

If you are frustrated about people not leaving your bike alone, try parking it normally.

:deal

[Eschwab855]

I am reminded of an old japanese saying:

"The standing nail is soon hammered flat."

Translated for context, this means:

If you are frustrated about people not leaving your bike alone, try parking it normally.

:deal
Tell him to fill the tank at the WI. rally I want to throw matches at it to see if the gas cap leaks.........Oh and tell him to come yell at me so I can knock him out...lol
Eric

[username]

That proverb implies it is the failure to follow through on good intentions that puts people in Hell. In other words, there is nothing wrong with well-intentioned actions, but intending to do something "one day" does no good at all.


i always thought this little saying meant that people think they are doing the right thing, but theyre actually causing more harm than good. hence, even though the intentions are good, everything "goes to hell."

interesting. googling it comes up with several references supporting your comment.

i learned something - thanks!

[Cliffy777]

username learned something about a proverb. That is one good thing about this thread.

[sjbmw]

Tell him to fill the tank at the WI. rally I want to throw matches at it to see if the gas cap leaks.........Oh and tell him to come yell at me so I can knock him out...lol
Eric

lol when they cuff you and take you away for arson and destruction of property.

[dancogan]

Had a chance to hear "the rest of the story" this Sunday. I'll repeat what I said earlier: the judgmental posts and name calling, for the most part by people who witnessed none or only a portion of the incident, are shameful. Greg has not posted, simply because he doesn't frequent the forum.

[beemerron]

Tell him to fill the tank at the WI. rally I want to throw matches at it to see if the gas cap leaks.........Oh and tell him to come yell at me so I can knock him out...lol
Eric

Welcome to the club Eric..lol. It's nice to see we're getting some fighting spirit, lol. We could use some excitement at these rallys. They're just so damn boring. lol

[PUDGYPAINTGUY]

Wow this is almost as long as the old ME threads...lol. Can't say it is as interesting though or as pointed. If the guy owns the bike let him park it how he wants to, he paid his money to either use the stand or not and after all he pays the bills on the thing right?...hehehehe

[Rob Nye]

Had a chance to hear "the rest of the story" this Sunday. I'll repeat what I said earlier: the judgmental posts and name calling, for the most part by people who witnessed none or only a portion of the incident, are shameful. Greg has not posted, simply because he doesn't frequent the forum.

That's too bad.

Over 9,000 people on site and only one draws the attention and concern of the site manager, plus a guest wound up being transported by ambulance.

That is the story and what people have been responding to. It would be nice to hear Greg's side of things.

[rgvilla]

ooh, Eric, your so tufff... :brow

[FredRydr]

The bike was on it's side in front of the Hospitality Tent. There were folks inside the tent, some of them volunteers. Do gooders come upon a bike on it's side, they don't see it fall and don't ask anyone in the tent about it? They try to right the bike that is not leaing fluids or is any immediate threat...."I'm shocked, shocked to find that someone would upright my motorcycle...again!"

http://www.getreligion.org/wp-content/photos/CasablancaRenaultRick_thumb.jpg

Fred

[crazydrummerdude]

Hopefully the next time he yells at someone for standing it upright, the do-gooder just knocks it back over.

What he's doing is setting up a nasty trap for genuine good samaritans. Although I would never touch someone else bike, I can see why someone would try to right it. (I would be thankful if someone helped me pull mine back up.) If he wants to "teach women" how to lift their bikes, why not go about it from a more educational standpoint. Teach a class; have a sign that says "meet here at 1 to learn how to lift this up."

So, someone gets hurt trying to do something positive, and somehow a minority of people defend this Greg guy? Even if he is a "nice guy," "nice guys" do stupid things, and it's obvious that parking your bike horizontally in a crowd of vertical bikes is freaking dumb. He's desperate for attnetion (which we're now giving him), and almost inviting a negative experience.

Hopefully he apologized to whoever apparently got hurt.

[cjack]

Ah, yes. We are reaching new heights, both in intelligence and in tolerance. Isn't it time to decide we're not going to decide anything in this thread and just let it die?

This reminds me of a media event. We need to interview some Psychiatrists, Lawyers, and BMW Master Techs...

[Troutluck]

I don't understand how riding a K bike will help him mature?
Maturity, maybe. Giant mosquito-killing cloud of noxious smoke upon startup . . . *definitely*.

--
(former smoKe75 rider)

[kbasa]

Wow. We're still talking about this guy?

[riderR1150GSAdv]

I am waiting for a Hurricane so.......... :lurk :lurk :hide


Just kidding of course

[Emoto]

Maybe I should bring a spare bedsheet and just throw a cover over it? :dunno

[wuli959]

Wow. We're still talking about this guy?

hey, when folks only visit the site every 5 - 6 weeks, it's still new news for them :)

[Mika]

Wow. We're still talking about this guy?
Amazing isn't it. Eliminate the stickies and it is #1 on the campfire view meter and #6 on the number of posts (soon to take over the post a picture of your pet thread) :dunno

[username]

Amazing isn't it. Eliminate the stickies and it is #1 on the campfire view meter and #6 on the number of posts (soon to take over the post a picture of your pet thread) :dunno

[goes off to post a picture of his pet]

[wuli959]

Amazing isn't it. Eliminate the stickies and it is #1 on the campfire view meter and #6 on the number of posts (soon to take over the post a picture of your pet thread) :dunno

It's got a catchy title, has a great beat (. . . and the beat goes on) but is hard to dance to. I'd give it a 4.7. :)

[Mika]

Where is the rim-shot smiley??

[einnar]

This reminds me of a media event.

Greg is applying to be the media editor?

[riderR1150GSAdv]

:dance

Yeah the whole thing turned out to be a big dud. :D Imagine the morons waiting for six hours in line for gas. :doh :rofl :rofl :ha :ha

[Rob Nye]

And on another list the poster mentioned that he met the owner and discovered he is a great guy.

[Visian]

... shoot, since we're arguing about women's issues and reckless riding, might was well rescuscitate the GS parking issue!

This rider has a better way to park his/her GS... :p

http://perso.orange.fr/mike.werner/BlogPics/parking.jpg

[beemerron]

The ultimate stoppie.

[bluwing]

It takes less space to park that way.
Although, I'll bet it was a center stand issue...spring set to tight.
Bluwing

[BradfordBenn]

Must be easy to unload it that way, as well as change the fluids.

[PUDGYPAINTGUY]

I bet that Jason Britton is envious of that stoppie

[Bob_M]

The ultimate stoppie.

So this is the origin of the flying monkey references. The pieces are starting to fall into place.