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RickG
04-10-2006, 08:41 AM
The news is already getting around but for those who have not heard, Rider Magazine contributing Editor and founder of StayinSafe Motorcyle Tours was killed Saturday evening while on assignment for Rider Magzine in Texas when he had a collision with a deer.

Ironically, Larry was in CA attending a motorcycle safety conference and had bought a beater bike to ride back east, writing about his adventure. The story was to be about cheap transportation and motorcycles.

Larry was from Pittsburgh and I had the pleasure of becoming a friend of his over the past couple of years. We had many mutual friends and he will certainly be missed.

The funeral is Tuesday April 11th and many of his Pittsburgh Friends will be attending, on two wheels of course as that is what Larry would want.

Godspeed Larry, you will be missed!

Peace

Rick G

robsryder
04-10-2006, 10:10 AM
Seems sort of ironic, but I guess it just shows that some hazards are nearly impossible to avoid. I've been lucky in the deer-strike department, but luck is all that it was. Nearly hit could have easily been hit.

Re: Grodsky's on-line articles for those not frequent readers of Rider -
http://www.riderreport.com/page.cfm?pageID=377

BeemoKat
04-10-2006, 10:19 AM
I always enjoyed Larry's columns. He'll be missed.

TheSlashFiveTourer
04-10-2006, 02:48 PM
The news is already getting around but for those who have not heard, Rider Magazine contributing Editor and founder of StayinSafe Motorcyle Tours was killed Saturday evening while on assignment for Rider Magzine in Texas when he had a collision with a deer.

Ironically, Larry was in CA attending a motorcycle safety conference and had bought a beater bike to ride back east, writing about his adventure. The story was to be about cheap transportation and motorcycles.

Larry was from Pittsburgh and I had the pleasure of becoming a friend of his over the past couple of years. We had many mutual friends and he will certainly be missed.

The funeral is Tuesday April 11th and many of his Pittsburgh Friends will be attending, on two wheels of course as that is what Larry would want.

Godspeed Larry, you will be missed!

Peace

Rick G

WOW! A shocker, that! I've been reading Lawrence Grodsky's safety columns in RIDER magazine for many years now. I'd like to think he made my riding safer and got me this far down the road in one piece. A deer? A ------ little Bambi did the man in!

Here's a brief account of what happenend from the Pittsburg Post-Gazette (http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06100/681018-100.stm) from today. Interestingly, there's no mention of the event on Lawrence Grodsky's stayinsafe.com (http://stayinsafe.com) website. Check out the plans and tours Larry had lined up for 2006. Not gonna happen now, I'm afraid. Thanks for the original post, RickG.

Shows to go, kids, you never know when it's gonna happen. Live your life to your potential and enjoy the short time you're here. "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee!"

Braddog
04-10-2006, 02:54 PM
Larry wrote good, practical columns. What a loss.

I guess it shows just what a hazard those big "rats with antlers" can be. When an experienced rider, who happens to write about safety, meets his end this way, what can you say?

For those friends and family of Larry, my deepest condolences.

username
04-10-2006, 03:15 PM
a terrible loss. incredibly ironic too.

ride well larry.

The_Veg
04-10-2006, 05:26 PM
As I saw the title of the thread I hoped it wasn't going to be about Grodsky. That's some of the saddest news I've heard in a long time. He was one of my favourite moto-journalists and I always looked forward to his columns and articles. Recently I'd let my Rider subscription lapse to due to being broke. I wonder how much I'll enjoy reading again without Larry's great insights into so many parts of the motorcyclist's world.

Grey_Matter
04-10-2006, 05:36 PM
That horribly bad news. I have been reading Larry’s articles for many years.

God speed Larry.

RedBeemer
04-10-2006, 10:37 PM
What a great loss to the motorcycling world. I always looked forward to his colum to see if I could pick up some tid bit that might save my bacon someday

TrailingJack
04-11-2006, 10:51 AM
Obituary: Lawrence Grodsky / Top American expert on motorcycle safety
July 8, 1950 - April 8, 2006
Tuesday, April 11, 2006

By Sally Kalson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Lawrence Grodsky, a nationally known motorcycle safety expert and author who taught thousands of riders to handle themselves on the roads, died Saturday on his bike in Fort Stockton, Texas, after being hit by a deer.



Lawrence Grodsky and his girlfriend, Maryann Puglisi, in August 2005 as they prepare to leave Washington, D.C., for a ride through the mountains of Virginia.
Click photo for larger image.



He was 55, and had been on his way from a safety conference in California to Pittsburgh for his mother's 85th birthday, said his sister, Marcia Grodsky.

"Larry was the most talented, experienced and competent motorcyclist in the country, but this is the one thing he knew he couldn't do anything about," said his girlfriend, Maryann Puglisi, with whom he lived in Squirrel Hill and Washington, D.C., and who helped run his business.

"Just a few weeks ago he said to me, 'That's how I'm going to go, it's going to be a deer.' He could deal with all the idiot drivers, but at night when a deer jumps in your path, that's it and he knew that."

Mr. Grodsky gave private and group lessons all over the country through his Pittsburgh-based company, Stayin' Safe Motorcycle Training. He also led trips in other parts of the world.

In 1988 be began writing the Stayin' Safe column for Rider magazine, a monthly publication based in Ventura, Calif.

"Larry made motorcycle safety interesting every month for 18 years," said managing editor Donya Carlson. "He had quite a loyal following. We're all still in shock."

Rider publisher Jim Hansen said the secret to Mr. Grodsky's appeal was that he never preached or scolded.

"My wife and I went on a guided motorcycle tour in Spain with Larry last year," said Mr. Hansen. "He had a camera mounted on his bike and had us wired for sound. He'd ride behind giving us pointers in such a way that you didn't take it as criticism. Then he'd show video clips of before and after, so you could really see the difference."

Mr. Grodsky also wrote travel pieces for the magazine. He was doing one at the time of his death about buying a used motorcycle on eBay on the West Coast and riding it across the country to sell at the other end of his trip.

"It was a 1997 Kawasaki police bike," said Ms. Puglisi. "He was excited because it was unusual."

Myron Cope, Mr. Grodsky's uncle, recalled that when ABC newsman Ted Koppel got a motorcycle from his wife as a gift, he sought out Mr. Grodsky for instruction.

"Larry went to Washington and gave him lessons on street riding," said Mr. Cope. In addition, he said, prizefighter Mike Tyson's managers hired Mr. Grodsky to give the boxer some pointers after one too many motorcycle wrecks.

"They flew Larry to Las Vegas and Beverly Hills and put him up in the top hotels, but Tyson never showed up for a lesson," said Mr. Cope.

Mr. Grodsky grew up in Monroeville and graduated from Gateway High School, where he was a champion wrestler and won a scholarship from Future Teachers of America. His sister said he fell in love with motorcycles while attending Ohio University, where he earned his teaching degree.

He taught high school and coached wrestling in Cambridge, Ohio, for several years, then returned to Pittsburgh. He worked at the Job Corps, where he designed a life-skills curriculum for young people called World of Work, and also produced a wrestling newsletter for a short time.

His love of motorcycles led him to become an early instructor with the fledgling Pennsylvania Motorcycle Safety Foundation, running a training site in Monroeville.

"We viewed him as the master," said Tony Capriotti of Verona, who trained as an instructor with Mr. Grodsky in 1993. "He was very intuitive, he had a sharp eye and could see small details of a student's weak spots."

From there, Mr. Grodsky branched off to form his own program.

"Nobody rode with him without a helmet and all the other proper safety equipment," said his sister. "His training courses were the gold standard. There are hundreds of people out there who say they owe their lives to him."

Mr. Grodsky took every opportunity to travel through Mexico, Central America and Spain, she said. "He spent years trying to master Spanish. That was his life struggle."

Her brother made friends wherever he went, she said. In recent years, he took up mountain bicycle riding with a group of enthusiasts on local trails.

He was also a generous soul, said Ms. Carlson. Last year, after Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf Coast, Mr. Grodsky auctioned off three private lessons on eBay and donated the $3,500 proceeds to relief efforts. He raised another $6,000 for Katrina relief in September at a charity ride in Westmoreland County.

"He died doing what he loved, but he loved living, too," said his sister. "He'd be happy not to have a sick old age, but he had a lot of years of fun still ahead of him."

In addition to his sister, girlfriend and uncle, Mr. Grodsky is survived by his parents, Harold and Violet Grodsky of Monroeville. The funeral will begin at 2 p.m. today at Burton L. Hirsch Funeral Home, 2704 Murray Ave, Squirrel Hill. Visitation will be an hour earlier. Interment will be at Temple Sinai Memorial Park.

BMWDEAN
04-12-2006, 11:57 AM
<img border=2 src=http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/grodsky.jpg> AMA story link -- http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/Grodsky.asp

As you now know from the posts above, Larry Grodsky, "Stayin' Safe" writer for Rider magazine, was killed in a motorcycle crash in Texas last weekend as he was riding home from the MSF conference in Long Beach to Pennsylvania.

Here's the story from a Pittsburgh newspaper:

Motorcycle safety expert dies when deer jumps into highway

FORT STOCKTON, Texas - Larry Grodsky, a Pennsylvania-based motorcycle training expert known as "Mr. Safety," died when his motorcycle hit a deer on a rural West Texas highway, authorities said.

Grodsky, 55, was traveling north on U.S. 385 about 30 miles south of Fort Stockton when he struck the animal about 8 p.m. Saturday, Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange said yesterday.

Grodsky was riding a 1997 Kawasaki Police 1000. Grodsky, who was wearing a helmet, was thrown from the bike and pronounced dead at the scene, Mange said.

The Pittsburgh resident was a leader in motorcycle safety and had trained some 5,000 riders since 1980, according to his Web site.

Grodsky had been writing the "Stayin' Safe" column in Rider magazine since 1988. He led riding tours throughout the country.

In October, he raised nearly $6,000 for Hurricane Katrina relief efforts in an event put together by Pittsburgh-area motorcycle enthusiasts, according to a story in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

"He was the kind of person, he had friends on every continent," said his sister, Marcia Grodsky. "He could walk into a cafe in Pittsburgh or Kosovo and within 10 minutes he had made a friend for life."

Grodsky graduated from Ohio University, where he wrestled. He also enjoyed skiing and mountain biking.

He had picked up a motorcycle in California and was in Texas to visit friends on the way home when the wreck occurred, according to family members.

Survivors include his father, Harold Grodsky, and mother, Violet Grodsky, and his sister; and his longtime girlfriend, Mary Ann Puglisi.

<img border=2 width=300 src=http://www.stayinsafe.com/images/larrygrodsky.jpg>

An acquaintance in Oklahoma sent me the following email message after the news came out.

Apparently, [a local club member was] down in the Big Bend area last weekend, and came across a fellow [Grodsky] with an older KZ-1000 Kawasaki police bike that he dropped in the deep gravel on the side of the road when pulling off to take a scenic picture. They assisted him righting the bike, and he informed our club member that he worked for Rider magazine. The fellow with the bike says he flew to California to pick up the police bike and was riding it home. He then told them to wait several minutes while he rode up the highway, and would set up with his camera and take their pictures while riding past. Then to turn around and he would take some more, and get their names and send [the photos] to them. Our club member's bud didn't want to turn around, so after the first shot passing the Kawasaki cameraman, they continued on their way. I showed the club member the picture of Lawrence Grodsky in his column in Rider, and he confirmed that was him.

Larry was riding an old (1997) Kawasaki KZ1000 police motorcycle he apparently picked up in California to ride home.

I had just seen Larry at the MSF conference. This is a tragedy for all motorcyclists, and especially those involved in rider education. I hope we will learn the details of his crash, but I suspect we wll not.

Be careful when riding your motorcycle in deer country -- especially after dark. Deer crashes are a regular cause of motorcyclist fatalities.

hlothery
04-12-2006, 03:55 PM
A real tragedy, my heart goes out to his family and friends. I read his column in Rider every month. It is, IMHO, not safe to ride the Texas backroads at night for this very reason. He will be missed.

pmdave
04-13-2006, 07:32 PM
At first, I thought the reports might be an April Fool's joke. After all, Larry was the epitome of motorcycle safety, and the thought of him getting killed by a deer is hard to accept.

But gradually the truth sank in. Grodsky had indeed taken the final tumble. I'm saddened, shocked.

Larry and I were not close friends, but we knew each other, and occasionally bumped into each other at motorcycle safety conferences. The photo is of Larry and I shaking hands after a roundtable on travel, at an SMSA conference several years ago. At the time I was writing the "Proficient Motorcycling" column for Motorcycle Consumer News. Larry was writing his "Stayin' Safe" column for Rider. That's Fred Rau, at the time the Senior Editor of MCN, and Clement Salvadori, well-known journalist who still writes for Rider and several other publications.

Although MCN and Rider are seen as "competitors", we laughed about that. Larry and I shared an enthusiasm for writing about motorcycling skills, and I believe we both wanted to bring as much knowledge to riding as we could make happen. There are few motorcycle journalists who write about skills, so we were a very private "club". At one time I did some "on street" training, but stopped out of concern for liability.

Larry had the drive and the nerve to develop his "Stayin' Safe" on-road training, and he continued to contribute his column to Rider. I took a tangent to develop sidecar training courses and allowed my MSF certification to lapse. Few people realize that I'm the author of the "Street Strategies" that appear in MCN. Up until this year, I contributed the occasional "Between The Ears" column to ON.

Larry's fatal accident reminds me that there really is no such thing as "motorcycle safety". It's a risky venture, and the most we can do is try to manage the risks. Let this occasion be a powerful reminder of the importance of learning all you can about motorcycling, practicing good riding habits, and always riding well within your personal "envelope".

Larry, I'll miss your quiet enthusiasm and brilliant insight.

David L. Hough

gsjay
04-13-2006, 08:34 PM
I too knew Larry Grodsky.
I too took a course.
I too have friends that I convinced should take the course.
I can't write as nice as some of the previous posters, but I too will miss Grodsky!

Perhaps we should begin to plan a "Grodsky Weekend Memorial Rally" at Natural Bridge Va.

Larry used Natural Bridge Resort as a base for many of his training tours and it would be a great place to do such an event.

Anyone interested in trying to organize such an event?
Anyone know his girlfriend well enough to bring this up?

jason
Laurel Highlands BMW Riders
Johnstown, Pa.

kreinke
04-14-2006, 06:24 AM
It's too bad there isn't a way to gauge how many lives Larry saved just from the advice he gave in his Rider columns, let alone his classes.

I read his column religiously and know that there were things is my mind that I retained that made me, at the very least, a better rider and at the most, saved my bacon.

Larry had a way explaining concepts in his columns that allowed the reader to make mental connections better than the sometimes bland MSF stuff.

I see that Mr. Hough has chimed in the thread so I'll let him know here that his writing has a great retention-factor as well and Proficient Motorcycling (I and II) are the most tattered and loaned-out books in my library. I read them myself often but kind of use them as "moto-bible-tracts" for coworkers who are new riders.

Deer are a bitch...I thought this was a "Dairy State" thing but I guess those bovine-linebackers are bad in other states as well.

Dispersion (where last year's stupid fawns are being chased from the nest to make room for the new births) is in full swing right now. BE CAREFUL.

Wkoppa
04-14-2006, 10:53 PM
This really is terrible news. We lost a really good guy doing good work for our sport.

I live in northern Michigan and the deer just scare the hell out of me. I try to put in 10K a year and its hard to do only limiting your riding time to daylight hours where you have the best chance to see what is going on.

At night you can light up the road pretty good until there is oncoming traffic and then you have to turn the wattage down.

In Michigan there are over 50,000 (this is not a misprint and these are only the accidents reported) deer/vehicle accidents a year. The Department of Natural Resources works at maintaining a deer population consisitent with the interest in hunting (I think over 750,000 licenses statewide each year) during the various deer hunting seasons (firearm and bow).

Of all the mumbo jumbo fixes to preventing deer/vehicle accidents I hear from deer whistles to flashing lights (indicating deer have triggered sensors in the area) there has not been anything that works besides the use of high fences in concert with migration crossings and or tunnels that limits the exposure to a few areas instead of many. Sorry for the long sentence.

It would seem that we work at artificially letting the dear herd expand to meet hunting demand and and do nothing to prevent what by any measure is a hugh number of accidents.

You can bet your ass if those 50,000 motorist each year experieced the same threat to life that a motorcyclist does when colliding with their deer that they would be telling their Departments of Transportation and Natural Resorces to put up some fence and build a few migration tunnels under the road and do it now.

With 50,000 accidents and a bunch of hunting license revenue it would seem that they should have the financial capability to address at least one high accident area per state per year. Maybe more. If anything should come out of this terrible situation hopefully some unified effort will take place to make the road safer for everyone. I have a feeling Larry would like that.

Wayne Koppa
Grayling, MI

paulfinney2
04-14-2006, 11:24 PM
What a terrible loss for the hole biking community. I never met Lawrence, but reading his writings over so many years let me feel I got to know him a little. We will all miss him.